that graph really shows how insane curry was in 16 lol
@krlllx4 жыл бұрын
@D Thomas not the original.
@felipemasas4 жыл бұрын
Best offensive season of all time by far
@angelsosa59034 жыл бұрын
That curry was insane dude was shooting the lights out from 3 greatest shooter i ever seen
@adamv98924 жыл бұрын
D Thomas definitely not the original, yes the greatest, but Dame has more range
@blakemasters57424 жыл бұрын
Adam V no he doesn’t, curry been doing those deep shots for years bro
@BlueGrovyle4 жыл бұрын
3:24 "Now there is the question of whether these are _good shots_ ," he says, immediately after showing the clip on Paul George.
@injusticeanywherethreatens2652 жыл бұрын
I could taste the shade lmao
@Davivd24 жыл бұрын
What impresses me most about his range is that his 30 footers are smooth and fluid like he's shooting a normal 3. Normally to shoot from that range players need to heave their body into it and that throws off their mechanics a bit and lowers their shooting percentage. Lillard has some real strength in his body to keep his form at that distance.
@greatness76194 жыл бұрын
Lebron does it too If you search you’ll see him pulling from half court like its a normal jumpshot🤣
@wallstreetzoomer4 жыл бұрын
A lot of players can do that lol, but of course only Lillard (and Curry) can make them at a 40 percent clip.
@leilaziani98334 жыл бұрын
@@wallstreetzoomer For now tho. I see Trae and Robinson making those on a consistent base in a couple of years.
@GANGLYMAN1174 жыл бұрын
@@leilaziani9833 i don't think Trae is going to be as much of a sniper as people think. Though he certainly loves pulling from deep he only makes 33 percent. His college 3 percentage was never great either. Watch Bens vid on Trae he explains why Trae might not be a 40% shooter.
@Zaghzackio4 жыл бұрын
TheHumbleNarcissist trae is only 21 hes gonna get better. Curry was still in college at this point in his career
@Hypnoticcc694 жыл бұрын
Those hand offs certainly tug on the d, thanks Thinking Basketball.
@Richbeans1154 жыл бұрын
This finished me
@Zaghzackio4 жыл бұрын
Lmfaoo sus
@migz234 жыл бұрын
They also pull out bigs
@adambryant84162 жыл бұрын
I fs thought the whole comment section was gonna be saying that. Guess not lol
@TheRealAbraxas2 жыл бұрын
“Tug on the D” 💦💦💦
@qwikscopez66194 жыл бұрын
"The ability to penetrate" *moans*, cmon now Ben
@far06c4 жыл бұрын
Lol he’s trolling us
@thebookinthehead45734 жыл бұрын
There is only one God, and there is only one way that people can reach God. That way is through Christ Jesus, who as a man gave himself to pay for everyone to be free. This is the message that was given to us at just the right time. 1 Timothy 2:5-6 ERV
@justinwright39774 жыл бұрын
The Book In The Head 🙏
@SI103794 жыл бұрын
@@albertmcnugget when u think ab it there's sm sus phrases in basketball. "Good / Hard D " , " A sweet stroke" "penetrate" "wet" etc.
@JM19924 жыл бұрын
Just trying to be Stephen A Smith
@patrick05Morgan3 жыл бұрын
I love that their mistakes/ imperfections are shown in these videos as well. It really puts their game into perspective and shows the nuiances of the game.
@Alexvudoo4 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing to watch Dame’s game improve throughout the years. Especially since his rookie to now. Great vid
@cnl12134 жыл бұрын
@4:20 "Curry's perpetual off-ball gravity" is very well put. It is a sign of an MVP-level player that the threat of the havoc one is capable of creating is bigger than the actual damage that it may cause. Developing that may be the next step in Dame's game. Then he may reach closer peak-Curry status.
@t4d0W4 жыл бұрын
An elite players' ability to command respect off ball is what makes them a potent ceiling raiser for their team in the playoffs.
@jsondoan25614 жыл бұрын
Favourite bball youtuber with a vid on my favourite player. Thankyou Ben!!!
@siddharthgundala42854 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on the evolution of basketball defence and how much more skilled you have to be , to be a good defender in today's NBA
@michawirkus90304 жыл бұрын
this is great idea. boomers don't get it.
@jorgecueva92394 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@siddharthgundala42854 жыл бұрын
@@michawirkus9030 exactly defense today is so unappreciated...what players like kawahi and Marcus smart do on tue defense end is so amazing considering the limitations
@NothingElseMattersJM4 жыл бұрын
Siddharth Gundala Kawhi is an all time great defender. Marcus smart no so much lol. There were a lot better perimeter defenders in the 90’s than Marcus Smart lol.
@jorgecueva92394 жыл бұрын
I think that what he means is that back in the day you could physically interfere more or just clothesline people and be considered an above average defender ( not saying all good defenders where like that) while today to be a good defender you can't play physical basketball so you have to have sharper response and a better game sense than in the 90s
@dephy114 жыл бұрын
Channels like these really ignite my passion to analyze basketball. Love the content
@PUFFINCAT4 жыл бұрын
1:02 i felt that MMMM, i had to replay it 5 times, that was so damn smooth!
@ObnoxiousOtter84 жыл бұрын
* sees that David Aldridge writes for The Athletic * *THANKS DA, GREAT INSIGHT!*
@biznick4 жыл бұрын
I already know this is going to be a great video
@thatsupaprokid57654 жыл бұрын
GOAT nba analysis channel. Love the stuff you’ve been doing been a fan for a year now.
@cidmatrix96434 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! Dame has really taken his game to another level.
@kekemausi024 жыл бұрын
Skip Bayless be like: bUt cAn He AcTuallY hIt a tHrEe ?!
@gremcilia_immermurin4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised he had time to critique Lillard. I thought he only had eyes for Bron.
@mrsialeipata86154 жыл бұрын
@@gremcilia_immermurin he gotta find someone else for when bron retires
@frank264363644 жыл бұрын
Nur der svw
@kekemausi024 жыл бұрын
@@frank26436364 ehre die werder Fans sind überall 💪🏽
@hockeytaperoom7714 жыл бұрын
When everyone’s healthy, I only have Harden, Durant, and Curry clearly better than him offensively.
@aidanl31374 жыл бұрын
What about lebron? Passing is also an incredibly important component for an offensive engine
@momothunder95444 жыл бұрын
Curry not better no way curry a better shooter but daim more complete offensively
@navia8104 жыл бұрын
@@momothunder9544 being the best shooter of all time isnt an understatement
@hockeytaperoom7714 жыл бұрын
I think they’re on the same level right now, when Lillard is hot like this. LeBron doesn’t have the shooting for me to comfortably say he’s clearly better. But if Lillard regresses back to his mean, LeBron probably barely has the edge
@paulcervantes5284 жыл бұрын
@@hockeytaperoom771 i completely agree
@david.tousignant204 жыл бұрын
You are becoming the best basketball KZbinr. Smart and educated videos. No bias. Just facts! Keep doing your great work.
@aidanl31374 жыл бұрын
David Tous. Always has been
@t-mofisher89224 жыл бұрын
nothing to say except i really love your videos. keep doing what you’re doing.
@JordanYap354 жыл бұрын
Great in depth analysis. Dame is insane.
@joshuapark73504 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this one!
@gray_gogy4 жыл бұрын
You know what I love about the all the Curry talk with Dame? Curry's gonna come back looking for blood. We'll see him taking more deep threes to prove a point. Whether he'll be able to prove it at this age is a different story. But I sure hope he will
@Princeofknowelege4 жыл бұрын
My only concern with Curry is he is getting older and injuries are starting to bother him again.
@precisism18044 жыл бұрын
I don’t see age being an issue unless injuries come into play. Steph’s game isn’t at at all predicated upon athleticism, and the age he’s at right now is around when many all-time greats peaked in terms of skill.
@kingdinodragonite34704 жыл бұрын
@@precisism1804 no but aside his shooting, his best offensive skillset to get buckets are finishes and drives. He's making 65% of them. Once he gets older, he might be a spot up shooter only because he can't drive past guys easily like he did in 2016 if he's older.
@stevenwhiters89284 жыл бұрын
Lol curry only shoots the deep threes when he gets hot curry actually normally gets slot of Easy shots because of his off ball movement. Then after he heats up he just hit everything. dame on the other hand start off jacking
@hyperactive91484 жыл бұрын
They like the same age bro I think curry only got a year or 2 on him
@dangelodrummond83154 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree !! Dame is just different 💫
@msesay984 жыл бұрын
Top quality content again 🤝I think what we need next is some playoff Doncic& Mitchell analysis, if they proceed.
@marco50304 жыл бұрын
"His defense is another story for another day", he says, right before delving into his defense.
@hubertsumlin96974 жыл бұрын
love this channel, best hoops content on youtube
@andybrummel55553 жыл бұрын
In the modern NBA, you have to be A faster, More reactive thinker, to be a good defender. With players abilities to spread the floor; with 3 point shooting; you need a lot of eyes in the back of your head and great court vision and space awareness, to cover both the paint and get to the edge man as well. In the 80s and 90s The ERA I grew up watching, The 3 point shot was hardly a factor. It was all about the big man down low and the physical nature of the game. You had to be tough as nails and Solid as a rock to survive and do well in that ERA of NBA basketball. Cause if you could not bang with the big boys down low, you were not gonna contribute much on defense. Exceptions being Pesky Guards and wings like MJ Scottie Stocton etc. Who made it a habbit of stealing your lunch money so much you starved to death. So yes, To be a great defender in the modern NBA takes a much higher level of skill sets then the past NBA. They got these poor boys running around like chickens now don't they? thanks Stephen Curry!
@JohnSmith-eo2yx4 жыл бұрын
Watching clips with crowds is so jarring now. It's strange to think how quickly I've gotten used to the bubble environment as a viewer. Great video!!
@simongauthier-daviault10484 жыл бұрын
Best basketball channel on KZbin. I love your videos
@kidjiujitsu4 жыл бұрын
Love this mans knowledge of the game.
@2433544 жыл бұрын
Not a single mention of his incredible ability to take care of the ball? The man has a 126 ORTG on the season. That is INSANE
@NothingElseMattersJM4 жыл бұрын
8th seed
@Zipfei_Kloatscher3 жыл бұрын
And he has a perfect and (most) beautiful shooting form.
@zStratoss4 жыл бұрын
A video ab my fav player from my favorite Basketball channel?!?!? GOOOOOOOD MORNING
@rygesa4 жыл бұрын
"Isnt too far off from peak Curry" ummm looks pretty damn far off to me.
@taterz45024 жыл бұрын
3%is that far
@rygesa4 жыл бұрын
@@taterz4502 he said "9% better" but that dot is closer to 8.5%. Steph is at 13%. That's a big 4.5% difference. Nice try.
@taterz45024 жыл бұрын
Andreas Ryge nice try? i was confused and i like currying
@taterz45024 жыл бұрын
Andreas Ryge curry
@rygesa4 жыл бұрын
@@taterz4502 oh sorry. I thought you were implying there isn't a big difference.
@user-es6wn9vj9o4 жыл бұрын
i love the way you tell both his good and bad things about his game. Other KZbinrs just overrate him.
@paraminderdhanota98104 жыл бұрын
I wish u posted more I love ur work
@freshfade284 жыл бұрын
He's been balling i hope he get a chip this year for all the doubters
@taterz45024 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this
@rThe075554 жыл бұрын
How you gonna analyse him and not mention his 40inch vert, he's one of the most frequent dunkers of any pg literally ever.
@simonamorim81784 жыл бұрын
Everyone one of these videos is a gem
@nflvideos33634 жыл бұрын
YES best b-ball analysis out there
@BeakerSunset4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an analysis of some legacy NBA stars.
@jacksonskateanddrum Жыл бұрын
Imagine watching this 2 years on as Dame has just had the best offensive season of his career.
@darrylwallace24284 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait to see Lillard and Curry match up next season. Those two imo are the best guards in the league.
@fuckoffstupidyoutub14 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Ben's top 10 players of the season like he did last year, it might be surprises with Durant and Curry out
@chrisfromph4 жыл бұрын
Watching this while watching lakers drop 80pts on 1st half
@chesssse66074 жыл бұрын
Lillard offensive game is my second favourite in the leauge after Curry Both are really enjoyable
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc2 жыл бұрын
3:45 That's crazy... everything after 2:45 seems unbelievable.
@therealbando4 жыл бұрын
Why don`t you upload your podcast episodes on youtube?
@globulin4 жыл бұрын
"Now there is the question of whether these are good shots."
@ashtondunson29324 жыл бұрын
That looks like some weird alternate universe Dame Lillard in the thumbnail lol
@ruchpat14 жыл бұрын
He really is a good ball handler as well I don’t think I have seen commit an egregious amount of turn overs. The little efficiencies can add up in a good way sometimes.
@inordirectional4 жыл бұрын
The best basketball channel on KZbin?
@arqumabdullah24624 жыл бұрын
8:25 damn he got YEETED
@Infinityflow04 жыл бұрын
I think the best way to defend this type of threat is with very physical guards. They will make crazy shots and there is not much you can do when they pull up, but that physicality will wear them down throughout a series. The best example of this would probably be the cavs in 2016, when they were relentlessly physical with the warriors, especially as it went on. Dame is tough, but even his shot will start to break down at some point when facing that sort of defense.
@NothingElseMattersJM4 жыл бұрын
Ask Jrue Holiday and Rondo :)
@Splackavellie854 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: Lillard shines when Curry is out and not around to overshadow him
@hoodielexballard81024 жыл бұрын
Bruhhh 🤣 this man is great stop curry is a all time great we know there’s other players to “he’s a threat from the logo “
@jaychulo19364 жыл бұрын
Simple he just keeping the seat warm for curry 😎💯
@misaelintriago54344 жыл бұрын
@@hoodielexballard8102 I think people just get annoyed when someone other than curry gets the spotlight and they call it "disrespectful" lol. Like let him get all the attention right now 'cause once curry is back everyone is going to forget about Dame again
@hoodielexballard81024 жыл бұрын
Misael Intriago ye curry out rn curry is a better player then dame ye but dame puts up 60 and it goes under oh curry could’ve done that no doubt but this man underrated that’s all I’m trynaget curry fans to see
@Splackavellie854 жыл бұрын
Hoodie lex Ballard How is he overrated? If anything, he’s a bit overrated since the bubble. And could you try typing in normal English next time?
@Heat_Hoops_Basketball_League4 жыл бұрын
Gotta do a video on defensive player of the year
@kalginage4 жыл бұрын
8:26 we're just gonna ignore this insane block...
@marco50304 жыл бұрын
He's 7 foot tall and just runs and blocks, that takes no skill...
@panner114 жыл бұрын
It may have been ruled a goaltend
@jebinm47064 жыл бұрын
goaltend?
@mintesinotsturm3884 жыл бұрын
Do one of Duncan Robinson plz. I wanna see somebody talk about how amazing he’s been in his rookie season.
@futurehofer15644 жыл бұрын
Omg 16 Steph was something else 😳
@jeffgiblin14 жыл бұрын
kick out to the open shooter always seems to be Gary Trent Jr #underrated
@sethsassy3 жыл бұрын
He's the new Clyde Drexler. Offensive powerhouse stuck in Portland. If he ever gets out of there he will get a ring.
@nathanxu6664 жыл бұрын
do an analysis on PG's playing so far
@nofuture_at_all4 жыл бұрын
I always put him behind Kyrie and Westbrook on point guard rankings before but this year, he's clearly the best at his position.
@NothingElseMattersJM4 жыл бұрын
Westbrook is still better.
@imdbtruth4 жыл бұрын
Luka is a PG, and Luka is the best at his position.
@jackhamilton24844 жыл бұрын
“Those hand offs tug on the d” bro cmon
@ballerkidz12264 жыл бұрын
Elite shooting in a point guard opens up a lot
@vexzore70194 жыл бұрын
Fire vid
@Kaitos114 жыл бұрын
God damn, that was the sneakiest ad read I've ever seen.
@joshgoodloe48304 жыл бұрын
Banger
@yohnyarvis96534 жыл бұрын
I admit I busted out laughing when he said "tug on the D".
@raygordonteacheschess55013 жыл бұрын
Lillard and Young are the best players in the NBA, redefining the game to eliminate their weaknesses.
@wallstreetzoomer4 жыл бұрын
Can you say what do you think of people that thinks Lillard is better than Curry now? Recency bias?
@GANGLYMAN1174 жыл бұрын
A most extreme version.
@javierlandaverde41084 жыл бұрын
Its literally people forgetting Curry because he is not in the bubble and getting caught in the moment because a guy has his range on the court but different players. Both are different players as a whole. Only resemblence is the unlimited range.
@brendanbloom33664 жыл бұрын
Lillard and Kyrie have been just as good if not better but in different and worse situations.
@wallstreetzoomer4 жыл бұрын
@@brendanbloom3366 and you're wrong. they never reach Curry's volume and efficiency at his absolute best, they aren't as good off-ball and defensively too. Only thing they are better at is driving to the rim, but Curry finishes better too.
@brendanbloom33664 жыл бұрын
@@wallstreetzoomer curry finishes better cause he has better spacing. That doesn't mean he's a better finisher. He's a better shooter and better off ball but they're better iso players. Dame has had better passing numbers and Kyrie did too after he left Cleveland. Nothing supports him being a better defender. He's surrounded by better defense and they hide him on defense. They're all in different systems with different teamates so it's hard to compare them when they all are close in overall skill.
@tinopazhernandez67014 жыл бұрын
IDK about that in many of the games in the bubble dame, sometimes guarded the best player on the other team and did pretty good. I feel like he is good at defense when the blazer really need him but he doesn't want to waste his energy
@NothingElseMattersJM4 жыл бұрын
He’s a minus defender.
@andreacallegari71374 жыл бұрын
If the Blazers manage to upset the Lakers and the Rockets overcome the Thunder, we will get an interesting duel between the step back three and the logo shot in the second round
@hopoff99684 жыл бұрын
I agree what he is doing is incredible he's very Steph Curry-esque Steph Curry Lite if you will
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc2 жыл бұрын
4:18 Insane that even after ALL THAT he's still way inferior to 16 Curry, insane. Probably because of the lack of off ball movement AND supporting cast.
@yetundeadeyemi24367 ай бұрын
It's also because dame can't handle the ball or pass like Steph, dame is more explosive yet Steph and dame finish at similar rates even when Steph's teams are bad and there is worse spacing
@stefanos44294 жыл бұрын
So with this defence theory I think Portland make big moves to help him Covington Giles Derick Jones help to make the Portland defence more power
@towersj6132 Жыл бұрын
A Milwaukee Buck
@geomaryy4 жыл бұрын
Great thumbnail
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc2 жыл бұрын
2:45 Instead of focusing on shooting from that far he should have focused on his passing... that you break the defense.
@memtub87824 жыл бұрын
Hey Thinking Basketball, it would be cool if you made a video on comparing dame with Steph curry, since many people are comparing him with Steph, and even saying that dame has surpassed Steph ( personally I don't believe that )
@qwikscopez66194 жыл бұрын
There isn't a man born from his mother that can shoot better than Stephen Curry
@keithwilliams10184 жыл бұрын
Damien lillars deep range dead eye badge is gonna be HOF in 2k21
@adamcho91294 жыл бұрын
5:00 "draw out bigs and tug on the D" PAUSE
@grandpa2034 жыл бұрын
Kenny Smith was straight up disrespectful saying "He doesn't know if curry has as much range as Dame". Lets not forget Steph has been doing this since 2016. I mean he shoots damn near 50 perecent from 3. Steph is the greatest long range shooter of all time. Dame is in the conversation I'll give him that. But when it comes down to shooting a basketball I'm taking Steph 10/10 times
@preciousaweh85214 жыл бұрын
Who is better between Curry and Dame. I only trust you to determine who has a better range or the better 3 point shooter. Thank you
@shivang123452 жыл бұрын
Just imagine if lillard going to team up with giannis.
@DarkOPSPro Жыл бұрын
this has aged incredibly well
@IJGZ3 жыл бұрын
Yeah dame is probably the best offensive player right now. blazers have the best offense in the league when hes on the floor.
@fear71263 жыл бұрын
l m a o
@brooksandrew35054 жыл бұрын
"The tug on the D" was great, ignore everyone who says it was bad
@jackdonsurfer4 жыл бұрын
1:02 *pause*
@MarquisdeSuave4 жыл бұрын
I pray to God that I see Big Game Dame play one season in a Mike D'antoni coached offense. 40ppg is not out of the question.
@NothingElseMattersJM4 жыл бұрын
He can’t get to the rim or draw fouls like Westbrook or Harden
@kyrie44514 жыл бұрын
What is a good shot? One that you have a good chance of making, for Lillard these are good shots. Even if he only shoots 30% (He shoots over 42% from 30ft out, better than the rest of the league), it will still help create spacing for Blazers offense.
@NothingElseMattersJM4 жыл бұрын
Blazers and Dame are extremely overrated lol
@daneforden31364 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I loved your old thumbnails. Please go back to that format.
@afrohawk4 жыл бұрын
Portland has figured out how to get into offense immediately. That's great! You can't make a move offensively until you make the defense react. Kids today like to stand and watch, which doesn't make the defense do anything. We teach our team how to get into something immediately just like this. Why we wait, I'm always screaming. Play downhill and see what happens. Nothing but good things, that's what.
@mrcobbs62274 жыл бұрын
It's always a good shot if it goes in:)
@jonjuko88594 жыл бұрын
Harden, Lillard, Durant, Curry and Luka would be my top 5 best offensive players not taking into account health
@NothingElseMattersJM4 жыл бұрын
Luka’s reputation supersedes his shooting ability. 31% from 3 and 75% from the line. He’s an elite playmaker but Kawhi is better than Luka from everywhere on the court. Damian Lillard is a poor man’s Stephen Curry.
@jonjuko88594 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Franklin he’s still a very efficient scorer and his playmaking puts him ahead of Kawhi offensively. Curry is better for sure but it’s more like an upper middle class version of Steph than a poormans 😂
@jrsdt2ndaccount304 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video why freethrows are so hard?
@atxng114 жыл бұрын
May you please analyse Steph Curry, people are forgetting just how good he is
@AF-we4re4 жыл бұрын
He already did
@atxng114 жыл бұрын
@@AF-we4re not the finals one, I meant an overall analysis of Steph's game
@misaelintriago54344 жыл бұрын
It’s not that people are forgetting they’re just appreciating greatness from someone else.
@geoks.5094 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I've heard something like this before... oh Curry. No doubt Lillard is a great player but it feels ore like Kerr has cracked the code with Curry and the league is finally knowing how to use small players hence Lillard is starting to shine more this few years.
@ijoseph73434 жыл бұрын
How is the screen at 2:02 legal with a base that wide?