a darker story of power than you remember

[@DamienWalter]

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[@thomaskeeler912]

I hardly ever give a Like to KZbin videos. Often I am undecided. I also prefer that KZbin doesn't get a proper handle on me. This video moved me to thumbs-up; Damien was masterful in making his personal public and general. It resonated with me, as surely it did with many of you.

[@AskALibbieist]

Oh man… Flight of the Navigator. What a story! No one who was a kid in the 80s will ever forget it.

[@izetteroos6888]

The story that sticks with me is Nausicaa, then it was called Warriors of the Wind, in the west: late 80's. A princess (traditionaly submitted to what is required of her) that stands up for what is right and fights injusice 😅

[@bombfog1]

How dare you remind Disney that they haven’t destroyed all of their properties yet with modern reboots.

[@SusieWest5]

This is so timely for me. I recently introduced my young family members to the movie. I had forgotten how dark it was when he returned to his family at the same age he was when he left.

[@michaeldenesyk3195]

NO MORE REBOOTS! PLEASE NO MORE REBOOTS FRESH IDEAS, NEW STORIES, I REPEAT, STOP REBOOTS!

[@0wl999]

You mention a bunch of the major wizards, but you forgot one of the most important, Ulfric, and still the best to this day portrayal of a dragon, ' Dragonslayer ' . 1984 😮

[@marklean8707]

A fun thing I like to imagine is a big budget Judge Dredd tv show where Dredd is not the main character. Mega city one is, its characters and events are. Dredd is regularly featured and bit by bit you learn more about him but the real star is the city from time to time Dredd is front and centre. Defeating judge death or trapper hagg but he would only play a bit part In Marlon Shakespeare’s story or the stupid gun’s story etc etc

[@marklean8707]

Mutch like the comic really

[@brian7android985]

Yup, that's the comics. And half the stories could never be put on tv cos they're so f-ed up.

[@marklean8707]

@oh I don’t know we have some established shows right now that are pretty fucked up

[@NelsonStJames]

Well it would work with Mega City One better than say Gotham.

[@VM-hl8ms]

mega city's journey? yes, interesting...

[@haraldessert]

Is nobody going to talk about the location where Damien recorded this? Seriously, where is this place?

[@Idahoguy10157]

Hawaii? Or the Caribbean

[@nivaldowesley666]

yes! looks like an assasins creed game! XD

[@calronian]

Did a quick Google Photos search on the closeup on the triangle shrine thingy and it looks to me like Gunung Kawi temple in Bali

[@Beer_Dad1975]

Looks like he's in South Asia somewhere from the architecture and carvings - maybe somewhere like Cambodia or Sri Lanka?

[@NikkiAyumu]

Definitely in Bali. Might be Goa Gajah, or somewhere in the Bedulu area where you can find ancient temples and ruins from Balinese old kingdoms. g.co/kgs/qne7qtU

[@ashley-r-pollard]

You have just changed my mind about you and your work. That was an outstanding piece of work. Heartfelt and stripped of all burdens demanded by society.

[@frenzalrhomb6919]

I found this to be a very detailed even profound re-imagining of a movie that I remember well but had never seen. I was turning 20 the year this came out and because, perhaps, I thought that I'd already been through my "rights of initiations," in that I'd left home, got a job and completed my apprenticeship, got my own flat, living with my girlfriend, bought my own car (second hand of course!) And had long since been drinking at the Pub without a question from the bouncer, so I thought that things like "Star Wars" to be beneath me. How bloody wrong I was? I hadn't "become a man" merely because I'd "completed my tasks" and been accepted into the world of adult life. I didn't, of course, realise this at the time, but there was still a long way to go before I REALLY had "completed my quest" and became the man I was always meant to be.

[@kiplingslastcat]

The Flight of the Navigator was the first thing that we ever recorded on our brand new VCR.

[@Cosmic-Industry]

It’s the first movie I watched in a cinema!

[@tomspoors768]

I recently rewatched this with my kids. They didn't connect as much as I did but made some interesting comments about how it didn't seem to end while, at the same time, having a satisfying end!

[@mitchellforney6109]

For me, it was Joe Dante's 1985 "The Explorers" starring Ethan Hawke and the late great River Phoenix.

[@RyanPerrella]

The aliens at the end of Explorers kinda limit the appeal, but a good story. Flight Of The Navigator however is actual soft disclosure (by plausible deniability) of the TELEPATHIC UFO CONNECTION. There are REAL SHIPs which have the characteristics of the ship in the 1986 Disney distributed film, again, a human mind connecting with a TransTemporal silver ship which knows their every thought is a real occurrence in our world. Explorers in comparison is a more pedestrian space picture.

[@MOSMASTERING]

@@RyanPerrella You're right. As a kid, this would have been my favourite 80s movie. However, I was always put off by the ending. The soundtrack is great, special effects are good for the time and the kids are relatable and the relationships are all endearing - boy to girl, friend to friend and the kids to adults (Kid with divorced parents, kid with out of touch parents in their own world) and I love the 'it came in a dream' aspect where they all meet up to share what they remember. The build up from designing the circuit, to testing the bubble in a field in summer and then finally deciding to go to space.. The entire movie has that wonderful 80s fantasy feel that has never been recaptured in any subsequent decades. It continues to build to the ending... which, unfortunately, is a total let down! It breaks the tone and comes completely out of left field. I have read a lot about this in the years following its release and from all available information the general consensus is that problems during production broke it up (I can't remember which) between either three writers or the filming was split up... but there is a definite beginning, middle and end to this film. Whilst the first two parts smoothly transition, something very strange seemed to happen to the final third of this film which just doesn't fit. Being sent back home with no conclusion after the huge build up, aliens being gross, slimy green creatures and the joke that they are kids themselves with parents. It's so close, yet just misses the mark.

[@yurkdawg]

This is one of the best videos I have seen in a long time....wow you had me in tears multiple times. And I barely remember "Flight of the Navigator!" It's because while I also fell in love with Star Wars, read Campbell and had that epiphany years ago, and have even been exploring Jung since then, I never realized how much my existence matches The Magician archetype! I know part of the power of Jungian archetypes is how they universally apply to all of us, but this one specifically describes much of my existence and identity. I probably shouldn't delve too deep in a YT comment, but to begin with, I am(was) a Software Engineer and am definitely a hyper-introvert who spends much of my time reading sci-fi etc...(btw those tears I referred to? The first one was in your description of "is your KZbin playlist filled with talks from Alan Watts and Terrence McKenna.") 😮😅😂....🧙🏻‍♂️

[@CrowMagnum]

I find it amusing that my memory of this movie is somehow intertwined with my memory of The Neverending Story.

[@DamienWalter]

Both deeply archetypal, and consciously Jungian.

[@michaelbond4609]

Mandela effect?

[@CrowMagnum]

@@michaelbond4609probably more alien AI spacecraft and luck dragon categorization overlap

[@holyfreak86]

"Flight of the Navigator" y one of my childhood favourite movies. They would air one saturday or another on open TV🤩

[@troubadour723]

Actually the best way to respect something is to leave it alone.

[@micdavey]

Yep

[@tennisfameguy]

Thank you, but I’m afraid original stories are now verboten, so what else you gonna do?

[@edwardlimoges5709]

Thank you!

[@Epoch11]

​@@tennisfameguy lol seems like it

[@nonsequitor]

​@@tennisfameguy that's a weirdly circular self justification. The answer is stop doing that. Also no, not verboten, getting made. If there's an absolute problem it's the gaping maw of the audience

[@GreenChugach]

Great video and great insights into the sci-fi arts that shape us. You know how to get to the heart of wisdom in these stories. And now this is a story I feel I need to watch. My favorite channel.

[@DamienWalter]

Thank you.

[@alexsafonov7270]

Magicians... constellating... I love it. I was confronting many, perhaps all of these issues, during the last few days. It was challenging, an exercise in space/time/mind/self. Discipline, decomposition, humility, pride. Lots for me meditate on, to constellate with. The appearance of this discussion in my feed is timely 🙏🏽

[@josiahbirthright24]

Yes I imagine Mr. Musk would dearly like to imagine himself as some kind of archetypal Magician. But I think his persona is much more pedestrian than that: The Conman...which is, I suppose, a type of magician if one squints hard enough.

[@gerrydepp8164]

All magicians are conmen; its WHO they con that matters...

[@fracnis6309]

The idea is intriguing but misses what is, in my mind, one of the most fundamental developments in the movie: Max's inheritance of Davids personality. This represents a moment of an interstellar superintelligence becoming human and learning what it is to be human, and seeing the world and universe as a human would. The concept you have put forward is very mechanical and tends to lose touch with the human aspect of the original story. FOTN was a hugely influential story for me, something that ultimately led to the creation of my own SFF series that explores very similar concepts, albeit in a much more expansive universe.

[@devenscience8894]

Maybe in this theoretical TV show, Max becomes more human over their travels, while David becomes more and more detached and robotic, until finally David has to choose whether or not to re-embrace his humanness.

[@rocketraccoon1976]

Earth Girls Are Easy needs a reboot!

[@hadamana]

This is the first movie I ever actually watched. I recognized it in the thumbnail, and was starting to get confused until the dog jumped up to catch that Frisbee. This movie is not only a great film, but also a technology milestone. Not to mention my favorite role played by Paul Reubens!

[@danielkover7157]

I watched that movie SO MUCH when I was a kid. I used to imagine myself in that trimaxium dromeship. I need to get it on DVD or BlueRay before Disney locks it behind a paywall forever. It's interesting that you're talking about the magician archetype. I spend a lot of time thinking about it. Fantasy is my all-time favorite genre. I'm slowly filling my living space with every possible wizard paraphernalia I can think of, from movie/book/video game stuff to curios and knick-knacks to my own arts and crafts. I'm also trying to build a library of "arcane lore." Most of this consists of lore books for fictional worlds like Tamriel and Azeroth, tabletop RPG sourcebooks and campaign setting books, books of languages (especially ancient languages and conlangs), and books about history (the more ancient and obscure the history, the better). It's nice to know I'm not the only wannabe wizard dork that daydreams about this stuff and meditates on the deeper meanings of wizardry. 😊

[@xensonar9652]

One of my faves too. Putting the VHS into the toploader and sitting in front of the TV. That movie seemed like magic to me as a kid. I'd long to be taken on an adventure like that.

[@akiyrjana6558]

I really do appreciate your spirited and intelligent videos. This particular movie was unknown to me beforehand. I was ten when I first saw the first Stars Wars movie in my hometown in northern Finland. By that time I had fallen in love with Asimov, Clarke, Le Quinn, Verne, Heinlein, the lot. My path led to poetry and music, Jung, mysticism and a career as a performer who propably influenced a generation of starry eyed introverts, some of who had a tad of warrior in them also. Now, nearing my sixties I look forward to a yet undefined transformation in ways you outline in this video. It is a painful process.

[@Z3sty_St4r]

I am a fan of Arnold and ill never apologise for it.

[@DamienWalter]

No need, Arnie is the man.

[@colanitower]

In the 1950s-1960s so many science fiction books came out by great writers. Some better known than others. "Cities in Flight" by James Blish would be great to see on screen. Imagine New York City take off into deep space as seen from the 'bridge' in the Empire State Building. Another good one to make a movie from is "Durdane" by Jack Vance

[@dnoordink]

I've wanted my own starship to explore the galaxy ever since I watched Navigator as a kid. Still have a copy in my bookshelf and watch it often.

[@patrick3016]

Another one that seems ripe for a remake, “The Hidden”. That’s a sufficient classic in its own right, but would also love to see a remake.

[@katarishigusimokirochepona6611]

Classic

[@nunyabizness6595]

Does anyone know if that's anywhere on streaming?

[@FractalSkye]

"Hunting" - Reimagined Ring Bookmarking Gentlebands. I don't often have jewelry money but some of these are incredible! Maybe a future anniversary gift!

[@inappropriatejohnson]

Zardoz, please. Maybe Denis Villeneuve could do it. Re-do it.

[@DamienWalter]

70s

[@henrya3530]

If any film is worthy of a remake it's Fritz Lang's "Metropolis". If someone were to start on a remake/reimagining today they could have their film ready for the centenary of the original in 2027. Lang managed to film his iconic work in just 17 months. With all the advances in technology since then how hard would it be today?

[@DamienWalter]

Blade Runner

[@Wallyworld30]

A Sci-Fi Movie I loved as a kid needs a remake is "Electric Dreams" (1984). It's a Movie about a mid twenty bachelor named Miles who buys a Computer and hooks it up to every piece of electronics in his home. Miles accidently spills a bottle of Champagne on his computer and it starts acting funny afterwards. It somehow becomes sentient. Miles is falling for his neighbor lady who plays the Cello for her local Orchestra. She practices playing her Cello and Miles and his Computer can hear her beautiful music. When Miles is away she start playing the Cello and the Computer starts using his MIDI Chip to play chip tunes in a replay of Dueling Banjo scene from Deliverance. The Computer falls in love with the lady so now we have a love triangle between Miles the Computer and the lady upstairs. Computers back then were no where near close to becoming sentient but today it could make a much more compelling story. The film "Her" basically ran with the same idea but I want a legit remake of Electric Dreams.

[@stevenredpath9332]

There’s a paradox at the heart of the flight of the navigator. David visits the future where he has been missing for years but then returns to the point where he went missing and continues going forward so is not missing. Those 2 timelines cannot exist together but have to coexist.

[@DamienWalter]

Time don't work that way lad.

[@stevenredpath9332]

@ how do we know? Which is true, that David returned 8 years later or never left?

[@DamienWalter]

Kantian, innit. Spacetime as construct.

[@willmosse3684]

@@DamienWalter😂

[@robertkalinic335]

There aren't really paradoxes in time travel, from the pov of the traveller its all linear, for everyone else nothing happened. The future that never happened still exists as part of timeline and still can be accessed but u need your own time machine.

[@derekbenjamin8143]

Thank you for this amazing display of storytelling, combined with awesome editing and visuals. Amazing content!

[@trogoautoegocrat666]

Thank you for including Dr Moore! Fantastic.

[@SchmyeBubbula]

THE FALLING STAR RE-IMAGINED RING Blade Runner had a sound effect I heard a year earlier, 1981, in Galaxy of Terror: an eerie "ooo-eee-ooo" - anyone know about it?

[@lightlegion_]

Your creativity is genuinely inspiring!

[@lisaboban]

My world-view shaking sci-fi was in books, specifically "Stranger in a Strange Land". I have often reimagined it as a TV series with a lot less misogyny and a lot more exploration of the role of the mega-church in American culture. And nobody would be brave enough to take that on.

[@AskALibbieist]

I needed this message tonight. Thanks, Damien!

[@novasite7795]

Thank you for reviewing! I love this movie!

[@RyanPerrella]

19:18 You’re onto something here. FANTASTIC 20 minutes I just spent listening to you distill the Magus to us, fantastic development of this incredible story. You recently mentioned Excalibur and because of that I’ll share with you that my CloseEncounter experience involved a ship which is best described by me as a sister ship to the one in 1986’s Flight Of The Navigator. ART IMITATES LIFE. None other than Ridley Scott put the structural shape of the REAL UFO ship I encountered at the end of the 10th episode of the 2020 HBO show Raised By Wolves. Flight of the Navigator is a prophetic film, it is an inspiration and a VALIDATION. Thank you for mentioning it and making it a part of your journey, the TriMaxian ship builders I would say are REAL, they communicate TELEPATHICALLY. For Real.

[@RyanPerrella]

@DamienWalter Thank You for this through provoking video.

[@Wiccad]

Wow. Simply, wow. Every video of yours is wonderful.

[@DamienWalter]

Thank you.

[@anthonynicoli]

Well done. Deeply moving.

[@RoyCyberPunk]

In the movie he and the knowledge he possessed that was downloaded into his brain were separate entities that only be tapped through a brainscan

[@KamikazeJedi]

Wow. This video, the first Ive seen from you, really triggered some forgotten/suppressed, experiences/revelations, I had a few years ago. Thanks!!

[@lastlazygun]

The point where the films theme comes in at about 12 minutes in gave me that goosebumps down the back of my neck nostalgia..... Really interesting analysis of a great 80s sci-fi film.

[@sdahl468]

One of my favorites too. Thanks for analysing what makes it so memorable.

[@elichilton7031]

I would have chosen to go home and be human because that is what I did in my own life. The thought of limitless power is inhuman to me and to lose my humanity is perhaps a bridge too far.

[@BuddyMcNugget]

Just re-watched this a couple days ago. Good times indeed. Compliance!

[@geologyjoerocks]

I loved this movie as a kid. I was born in 1979 so this movie blew me away when I saw it new

[@philjones9356]

Thank you, very thought provoking. Some of it a little over my head but nothing like stretching the mind a bit.

[@budbudley]

Great film and a really fascinating take on it using Yung. We are all travelling through space on this spaceship earth.

[@pauljazzman408]

I loved Flight of The Navigator at the time and only fairly recently rediscovered it. I liked your reboot idea. Liked the multiverse idea. In fact if David went back in time he could have only have gone back to a near multiversal version according to to David Deutsch as it’s impossible to go back in time in the same universe (I think that is what he says). I like the invitation to play with this story. I’ll think about it. I was just reading about the Vogler memo!

[@AdrianBoyko]

The 1980s is when Sci Fi completed its degeneration into Sci Fantasy.

[@gregalden1101]

I watched it several times, thanks for the guidance. It spured me to go rewatch the 1974 ignored indie gem, "Space is the Place" by Sun Ra. Magical Sci-fi on a cosmic wavelength, you dig.

[@jeremydilts920]

Why is this idea not being made? Great presentation!

[@southdakotatruth]

I loved this move as a kid.

[@AuthenticTheeMiddleone]

Fricking loved this one dude! Was the Robert Moore vocals a single recording or a mix of several ?

[@WarmNaturalLite]

COMPLIANCE

[@MichaelJohnson-bu5zv]

Excellent video sir!

[@yurkdawg]

Btw is that coincidence that rock tombs you filmed the end of this video look a lot like a scene from "The Boy and the Heron?" ("Those who seek my knowledge shall die.") (That movie is also definitely about The Magician.)

[@Noxfumes66]

Whoever hasn’t seen this movie….. pick it up, well worth the while. Rewatched this a few years ago and wasn’t disappointed.

[@Epoch11]

Captain disillusion has a quasi retrospective on the special effects of that movie which were revolutionary at the time and it too is a movie I loved when I saw. I didn't see it at the movie theater but I did see it a year or so later rented and I also love the film. What else would be revolutionary is a voice to text that actually understood me and didn't require me to edit every single last comment I make.

[@DoubtfireClub]

Just like Bill and Ted: this was excellent.

[@DSesignD]

You touched on these Magician archetype themes and it reminds me of Donnie Darko

[@deepashtray5605]

If it's a Disney film I'm sure they would spare no expense to totally screw the pooch on any reboot.

[@Coillcara]

Merlin had King Arthur. There is no need for one person to be all archetypes at once, the person can be a part of a balanced team.

[@Tygertyger8008]

This is one I really want to show to my kids.

[@kedabro1957]

10:15 ... Well THAT hit my inner child like an orbital laser, dear GOD!

[@jefftitterington7600]

Family as it is? Or exploring the universe? Fifty years ago I would have chosen the universe in a heartbeat. Now, I cannot answer.

[@DamienWalter]

Yup

[@gerrydepp8164]

I chose the bush; didnt intend to end up completely alone but I'm not - a puddytat 30 odd species of birds and huge tree's feed me more than society ever could and through excellent expose's such as this I stay on a path I started 55 years ago when I read my first Sci fi at12; an old fat collection of short stories "And Mimsy were the Borogroves". Cheers from Aotearoa

[@NelsonStJames]

There are quite a few films that should not necessarily be rebooted, but a remake would be nice because sfx has gotten much better. The original story is fine as it is. Often rebooting today means taking out the heart, or the intelligence that a lot of older films had, or completely missing the point of the creator altogether. Personally I dread when any film that I loved from the past gets a reboot today, because I know that it's going to be watered down, or the contempt the new filmmaker has for the source material will be on full display.

[@aresaurelian]

Glad you liked it. Thank you.

[@nodatastored684]

Galaxy of terror was in theatres.... In Nj as far as I know. I was terrified of the newspaper ad

[@shinankoku2]

I was a teenager in the 80’s and all my edgelord friends (not me! No!! Not at all …) and I saw Galaxy of Terror. It was jaw-dropping. A woman is r*’d by an alien. When the rest of the crew finds her, they just look at the body. They don’t check to see if she’s alive. They don’t recover her body. They don’t cover her up. Then they just leave her there naked and sadly move on.

[@justinecooper9575]

Hubby has watched "Galaxy of Terror" several times. I can't understand why.

[@hamm0155]

Love your interpretation!

[@AskALibbieist]

10:25 I feel personally attacked 😂

[@DamienWalter]

I know my audience.

[@josiahbirthright24]

Smoothest ad transition ever. Subway should hire you. I hear they need a new spokesman.

[@andyfleming6784]

For those in need of new sci-fi (you still read books right?) I don't think they could go wrong with something like Pandoras Star & sequel Judas Unchained by Peter F Hamilton. (actually with a lot of his series) Covers a lot of basis in sci-fi we are much in need of for spectacle and something original that we completely fail to get just now. Myself I'd pay big money to watch those if they were ever created.💢

[@champisthebunny6003]

Musk has the stench of unwashed grifter about him, but, your point still stands.

[@davesebring]

Excellent , the importance of that movie to me was what it made me think about.

[@MonsieurSansHonte]

Yeah, for me, that movie was Threads…

[@MonsieurSansHonte]

I admit: I am impatiently awaiting The Doors of Stone.

[@riverzend1033]

This movie was amazing, scary, and exciting to my 8 year old mind :D so glad I was there 🎉🎉

[@KCSamurai]

NO Leave it Alone!

[@kris12385]

The Golem Re-Imagined Ring

[@NateBostian]

Thanks for a great introduction to the way of the Mage.

[@josiahbirthright24]

This is a stunning idea. Young men (and old men for that matter) need a re-booting of the multi-faceted masculine energy archetype. It has become dangerously warped into something utterly stupid, selfish, and destructive. Male energy when ignored and/or ridiculed into a parody of itself becomes ugly and demonic. We desperately need better myths. Robert Moore's book has been on my Amazon wish list since I first heard about it many years ago. Thanks for reminding me to actually buy it.

[@marciracashp6293]

The Planet , Re-imagined Ring

[@claytongallagher3367]

Flight of the Navigator was an amazing gem of a movie. So beautiful and fun and awe inspiring as a child. I’m not typically a fan of reboots mostly because the translation to modern day is in bad taste. So it really just depends on who is behind the writing and the directing. Maybe the right person that could really develop a modern version. Or maybe it could be done like the duffer brothers did stranger things. Keep it set in the 80’s.

[@Xoguran]

Harlan Ellison once said that remakes and reboots were product of a very special kind of stupidity empowered laziness. Someone at Hollywood asked him if would be a good idea to remake/reboot "Forbidden Planet" and automatically spat a lengthy explanation on how whoever had the idea should do a sequel to at least work out their creativity and not be a ghoul feasting in carrion.

[@DamienWalter]

Much as I enjoy Harlan, and even interviewed him, he was a moral exemplar of precisely nothing.

[@rhm54]

One of my favorite movies of all time.

[@allnamesaretakenful]

I saw the Flight of the Navigator in the theater

[@_specialneeds]

It's called a remake.

[@Zoie3x8]

i nominally agree, the flight of the navigator (and perhaps also the last starfighter) could do with a reboot and updating - just ..... Not Right Now, primarily because the leftist un-culture could only gleefully do wrong by it, in every possible way.

[@GeahkBurchill]

Wait? Is ‘David’ Sean Murray?!

[@christophejergales7852]

I own this sheeit on Blu-ray.