Dan Patrick: The NBA Is Sometimes Not Relevant And That's A Problem | 12/18/24

[@markkoep8031]

If the players don't care about playing, why should i care about watching?

[@thecastle09]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯fact. NBA is boring

[@GHOST91141]

so true in the last five seasons there have been too many games I have started watching & completely just changed the channel

[@TheSands83]

@@GHOST91141it makes me sick to watch

[@LembeckIsStaying]

​@@GHOST91141 Thank you. I switch to something else and totally forget I was watching games. Or of course, I tune in and player X is out for no damn reason. Then he's back the next game. Then if you watch a full game, it turns into a free throw fest or an open run at LA Fitness just jacking up 3's. Oh look, another stepback....HOORAY! 😂😂😂

[@matthewanderson6423]

Players taking nights off and forcing their way off teams to create super teams was the beginning of the end. The Kobe and MJ types of attitudes and mentality toward the game are gone. NBA needs 80's and 90's style of basketball back. It's all just a kumbaya of friends shooting 3 pointers. Just not a good product anymore

[@MateMagyar88]

Well said. 😢

[@moosecudi899]

Ratings were up for the Warriors and Heatles though

[@realamerican8069]

Blame the players instead of the league.. typical

[@holidayarmadillo8653]

So fucking spoiled the players in this league. Lame as hell and they still expect us to watch.

[@zachbush7923]

I'm a casual fan, and the NBA has done nothing to get me interested in watching more. And can we stop with all these different alternate uniforms? Half the time I can't even tell which teams are playing unless I read the bottom of the screen.

[@Dutch3k5]

Not to sound nostalgic but I miss when the home team played in certain jerseys and vice versa. Now everything is a cash grab to get fans to buy more gear

[@benny2281]

And the bright colorful courts look completely ridiculous and amateur

[@Juicycandt]

Stay casual

[@sleep_sounds]

The city jerseys and cup courts especially are awful. Too many threes. Too many “gather steps” Too much pushing off for the ball handler is allowed. Defense needs to be allowed come back.

[@SurrealEtc]

Same… i dont start watching until it actually means something if they lose and theyre not just running around doing whatever without any consequences

[@braddillon4311]

The NBA needs a new commissioner.

[@endzhere1638]

And has for yrs. If Adam Silver was a coach the media would of hunted his job.

[@raniebranson8051]

In the worst way...

[@Avenue77]

I think Adam signed a new contract last year...but a number of owners would have to fire him

[@Inkmybodie]

Adam runs the nba like a high school principal.

[@juliusjean-baptiste924]

Silver isn’t the problem. The players are the problem

[@chrisokeeffe3895]

No one gives two craps about the NBA cup. The only way to fix the NBA is to ban load management and consider shortening the season.

[@johnsepulvedacruz6428]

Not really. What the nba needs is to add hand checking, take out the 3 second rule in the paint, stop calling soft calls, call the carrys and walks. They do these things and it will be a new nba. You will see about 3 superstars and less stars innthe league. You will see defense again.

[@heygringo7]

Plus limit the amount of boring 3 point shots or even get rid of the 3 arc

[@TCRgalaxy]

58 game home and away round robin is the answer

[@TCRgalaxy]

move the arc back, get rid of short corner 3s, etc.

[@danielstrongin8525]

You missed the three pointer

[@michaelwilson8233]

The players don’t care until the playoffs…. Shocking the fans now don’t care

[@tomchrisfield7348]

I watched the Cup game last night, Janis was great, but the rest of it was brutal to watch, all the missed 3's was brick city. OKC was .16. % percent for most of the game. At what point do you just try to run some offensive plays for 2's instead.

[@terrancesmith428]

And these players still can't deliver in the playoffs. They build these "super teams" and they lose in the 1st or 2nd round.

[@Inkmybodie]

Players stop caring once they get that max contract. Now the nba gotta give them cash prizes to keep em interested.

[@princejellyfish3945]

@@terrancesmith428it may surprise you but only one team can win the chip. Every season there will be many teams who are very good but just cant make it. Crazy concept i know

[@terrancesmith428]

@@princejellyfish3945 Ewing, Reggie Miller, Stockton, Malone, Barkley all came up short but not due to a lack of effort. Even a guy like Barkley who F-ed around still played 110% everytime he was out there and played through injuries.

[@raniebranson8051]

The game ain't the same... It lost it's soul when analytics came heavy. Btw... The NBA is a horrible product.

[@scarletspider1240]

The Silver / LeBron era are gonna go down as one of the worse eras of basketball ever. They’re making money…but they’re doing it at the expense of the long term success of the sport and the league. It’s incredibly short sighted.

[@Inkmybodie]

Imma Lebron hater but its actually all silvers fault. He runs the nba like a new high school principal.

[@KaisasDad]

Baseball did the same thing starting Playoff games at 9:30 in the 80s.

[@MrShanester117]

Lebron is a basketball player. He just plays basketball. But he lives rent free in some peoples minds like a boogeyman

[@scarletspider1240]

@@MrShanester117 he’s a player who the league has platformed and featured for 2 decades and has influenced the game in a negative way for the long term. Criticizing someone doesn’t mean they live rent free in my head.

[@willstrick9185]

Which lebron era. He started in 2003…

[@XXsupervisor]

The All-Star game isn't supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be the best of the best playing for honor and bragging rights.

[@nickcooper4265]

100%. It’s also a chance to see players you normally don’t get a chance to watch on a regular basis.

[@GHOST91141]

I remember watching those All-Star games in the 90s & 2000's you seen the highlights but they also got serious going into that 4th quarter

[@Leadernotafollower-g6d]

The entire league has taken on the persona of the face of the league: LeBron James. Regular season doesn’t matter, look at my stats, winning doesn’t matter, don’t need to play defense, entitled, arrogant, etc

[@javierdelgado1554]

Mic drop

[@ClayJunior2]

Y’all need to grow enough balls to hold all these players accountable. Instead of holding Joel embiid kawhi James harden accountable I can just blame Lebron because it’s simply easier. That’s a bit lazy and disingenuous. Do better

[@javierdelgado1554]

​@@ClayJunior2 I realize it's not just LeBron James, obviously...but the media and social media talk about him nonstop all the time...and he did create the super team era so I'm not going to pretend that didn't happen.

[@TheSlithice]

Delusional take, Lebron was the best player on the court every game of the regular season for 16 years+, dominating on both ends of the floors for at least 12 years. This revisionist history that he doesnt play defense is insane. You could've named actual cone on defense from stars like Steph, Jokic and Luka but you tried to make a point that doesnt exist.

[@AllezlesParisiens]

Let’s blame 39 year old Lebron, who actually tries to play, when there are ´star’ players like Embiid, PG, Kawhi, harden, and Simmons who demand max contracts then sit out games and games at a time.

[@petercena9497]

The problem with the NBA is simple, people are bored with the game. Hard to bounce back from that.

[@Inkmybodie]

Plus this players suck once they get a max contract. & the refs have too much power like everything a fuckin foul now.

[@javierdelgado1554]

The NBA has become so boring and unwatchable it's not even funny...LBJ, Adam Sliver and today's generation of players have ruined the NBA....there's no real competition and players just out there pretending.

[@ClayJunior2]

Mentioning lbj is an old and outdated take. He’s old and no longer a good player and he’s on his way out. We need to focus more on the future, like wemby zion jocic doncic Tatum morant Anthony Edwards

[@javierdelgado1554]

@ClayJunior2 don't blame be...blame Dan, who constantly finds any way he can, to bring his name up.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

​@@ClayJunior2No, mentioning LBJ is not an old and outdated take if you think he's partially responsible for the malaise the NBA finds itself in.

[@GHOST91141]

​@@ClayJunior2it's hard to focus on the future when LeBron is all they gonna talk about & Bron does play a part in how the NBA is today because he is the face and has the biggest voice if Bron said let's go back to how the all-star game was played East vs West they would do it & other players with backup what he's saying

[@russsnyder2026]

Nobody wants to watch a bunch of friends throw up 3’s. They want fierce competitors going at it hard, like we had until 15 years afo

[@max1mus540]

Best comment ever. Agree 1000%

[@thebrownprivilegepodcast]

you nailed it, 100%

[@user_19860]

Casual fan. Watched a good amount of my Spurs but slowly declined when Duncan retired. The flopping has gotten out of hand. There’s also no defense being played because of cheap fouls the ref calls. Commercials commercials commercials. Review after review in the last few mins. The cup means nothing to me and is pointless. The all star game is a YMCA pickup game at best. Tip off at a reasonable time. Don’t tell me the game starts at 7pm when the tip off isn’t for another 35mins after having to sit through talking heads pointless comments about the game and team. MLB has a first pitch time. NFL is on time (noon, 3 and 3:25pm central time) and that’s when they kickoff. Hockey tells me when the puck drop is. Quit trying to force things. Put a good product that’s easy to find on TV. End blackouts.

[@jey4908]

Yep "no defense" is a casual's take

[@PurdyGood]

@@jey4908you have no point to make here. You’re supposed to want casual fans to become diehard fans. Why do you want to gatekeep a sport that is objectively on a downfall?

[@jey4908]

@@PurdyGood Im not gatekeeping. Sometimes, that's just the way it is. "No defense" is a classic over simplification just because you see a high number of threes and scores in the 120s.

[@B32-h8u]

The NBA Cup just shows how bad things are. The league is in desperation mode to generate more interest but Silver's ideas are falling short.

[@NatWhereYouAt]

I've followed the NBA since 1993, and the last few years have been a grind to watch. 1. No passion. If a player looks at another player they get a technical. Let the players express emotion and passion. 2. Zero rivalries. See point 1 mixed with players that often switch teams. 3. People don't like politics in their sport. 4. They're over paid. Their contracts should be based on W/L. Perform well and meet your KPIs, then you get a bonus. Like everyone else in the working world. I bet they'd play hard then. 5. Of course the boring 3pt shooting. It's made 45 out of 48 minutes pretty much irrelevant uneventful, no drama filled basketball

[@m_a_i_l_l_i_w]

No rivals is my personal grievance. Players switch teams too often.

[@Inkmybodie]

Plus this new generation of "Super-stars" aren't marketable. Their either over-weight or already made too much money .

[@TL2354]

Players jerking each other off after a game. There no sense of competition

[@jbizz80]

Doesn't point #4 apply to all sports?

[@averageguy1261]

And game tickets are unaffordable for the regular guy.

[@zirconiumarthiritis7409]

Hasn't been the same since Mike

[@benroyal1957]

Every now and then I watch the Spurs 2014 highlights on KZbin. Loved the ball movement and the team work.

[@davidcovington1046]

Exactly

[@nickh2935]

It’s simple, the players obviously don’t give a shit, why should we?

[@KaisasDad]

Ever notice they play ALOT harder in playground games ? Could it have something to do with their feelings about the very different audiences ??

[@Salemslot77]

There's really no secret as to why people aren't watching. Load management, entitled arrogant players who can't be bothered playing, flopping, and too many threes have all combined to create a product that people can't be bothered watching anymore.

[@LembeckIsStaying]

The NBA literally turned into the park mode in 2K. - Ugly gen z uniforms - Stupid looking courts - Ballhogging, showing off your bag - Of course, the endless 3s - Real life rubberband AI because of the refs, so no lead is ever safe - Load management - Silly gimmicks like the cup and tinkering with the All Star game - Blackout dates on streaming - Too many damn commercials

[@brianrasmussen4314]

The major problems with the NBA are the three-point shot load management guarantee contracts And effort They can fix these things if you get rid of guarantee contracts people are gonna try a whole lot more silly can make sure they have a job next year so there’s contract problem and the effort problem. If you change the three-point shot to only count as a three points if you’re tied or down in the game and the last three minutes of each quarter that’s when they should count three-pointers and then load management if the player doesn’t play start penalizing him on the team by not letting him play in the playoffs if they miss a certain amount of games, they miss a certain amount of games in each series of the playoffsThat would make the NBA more interesting and then people would probably start to watch again.

[@905north9]

The other day there was a game and both teams missed a combined 75 3-pointers. When you watch on TV They can produce it to make it look more exciting with the commentators and camera angles. But let me tell you when you go see one of these NBA games in person where it's nothing but clanking three-pointers and you just paid 300 bucks for a ticket. It is awful. I think I have stopped going after many many years of attending multiple games a year

[@jeter81]

If you WANT to watch a game you can barely find one. Access is as big a problem as any. That’s before even addressing load management. They have to fix these local and national broadcast deals.

[@MichaelMartin-qe5ye]

Why sit through the dunk contest/3 point competition and 10,000 commercials when I can watch 3 minutes of highlights the next day?

[@scarletspider1240]

Of course Silver is ok with the current state of the game…because he’s terrible at his job and he’s afraid of the players.

[@m_a_i_l_l_i_w]

He definitely seems afraid of the players. He’s a coward and a pushover.

[@djharms86]

Somewhere in the last 15 years American basketball went from team sport to an individualistic sport. It’s a major problem when it’s a 5 on 5 sport.

[@javierdelgado1554]

Not really, it will always be a team game in the end...you still have great players that can go one on one on one...but overall, players still understand that you can't win by yourself by chucking up tons of shots.

[@Daedcicar]

There’s always been an individual that is the go to guy. The handicapping of defenses by officiating, relaxation of rules such as carrying the ball, load management of young players and the everyone is friends mindset has diluted the game to the point it’s unwatchable.

[@javierdelgado1554]

@@Daedcicar to your point, I don't think allowing people to carry and how much harder it is to defend when someone is allowed to carry gets emphasized enough...dribbling without carrying used to be a skill that only good ball handlers had...now anyone can carry and you can't even call it, even in the local park.

[@djharms86]

@ that’s not even remotely what I’m talking about. Used to be pride with being in the NBA and now players literally only care about themselves and that’s it. It really shows in a lot of the play. I’m not saying it’s like that for every player or team. Nuggets, Thunder, Warriors and Celtics are some of the most unselfish teams I watch and that’s the brand of basketball I want to see. Giannis plays with a motor every night. That’s what fans want to see.

[@javierdelgado1554]

@@djharms86 I used to love watching the Spurs and Suns in the Nash Duncan era because of their team play and ball movement...but I also loved watching Kobe...you can have both and still enjoy it...I'm pressure if Pop had Kobe he would be more flexible in letting him go one one one more often than not....the issue I have is not that players go one on one...I'm cool with that only if you're going to get back on play defense...a lot of guys just want to score a lot of points but don't want to do the dirty work that comes with playing defense.

[@SullyAfgarshe]

Dan I’m beginning to believe that the fundamental issue with All Star weekend is that the NBA has lost it’s ability to incentivize players worth tens and hundreds of millions of dollars to care about an event outside of their responsibilities to their individual teams The only real incentives are financial, you gotta offer the winning players a million each or maybe more and if that doesn’t work then just get rid of the entire weekend and just let guys get 10 days to rest before making a playoff push

[@adonasbuhr2784]

I love how the media is covering this story like it's something new. The NBA has been in decline for well over a decade.

[@80sNewWaveGeek]

The NBA has just never been as fun to watch as when Jordan played for the Bulls. When he retired, I remember wondering "how does it get better than this?" My opinion only.

[@StoneColdBeard]

The reason the Boston Celtics are by far the most watched team across the nation is because they play defense, and team oriented offense. Passing the ball to get an open shot.

[@novelaego2404]

but at the same time jack up alot of 3s.

[@StoneColdBeard]

@ but they make more than most teams because they pass it around until it’s an open shot. And JT and JB do take it to the rim more than most superstars.

[@calebrsmith95]

I’m someone who enjoys watching the nba. But they need to dramatically shorten the season. Nobody has time to watch 82 games! Plus, each game would become more relevant and fewer players would sit. Seems like a win-win-win to me. But the league makes more money with more games, so they don’t care that it makes it a worse product

[@domino2009ful]

90’s and early 2000’s. The NBA was great, now it’s no Defense, 7 Ft centers throwing up 3’s, no one posts up anymore…

[@aznnp77]

I stopped watching NBA years ago. College basketball was all about the 3 during the tournament as the great equalizer. But that's only a few weeks a year. Multiple years of 3 point contests is too much. It wouldn't be as bad if there was defense being played, but Totals used to be like 180 a game. Now they're like 245.

[@TheTPAL]

The NBA style of game looks like a rec league all star game

[@trolleyman98]

Once lebron and Steph are gone they're toast. Their next deal will be much less

[@scapegoat413]

I think LeBron is holding the nba back. He needs to retire and stop this circus

[@endzhere1638]

You just mentioned the nba's 2 biggest problems, LeBron's legacy = player empowerment and a league full of best friends. Curry changed the game but not for the better, now every play on every team is a 3pt shot coz analysis says so.

[@istanprincecharlesteamcami1026]

@@scapegoat413 Delusion

[@cheehee808_]

I miss when teams had real beef and were competitve with their rivals. Those heat-pacers series from the early 2010s were always fire cause they had a healthy disdain for each other so they went HAM every game. Now it seems like he cares more bout the clout and his legacy than anything else. And his entitled attitude has influenced basically the entire crop of young stars, hence why none of them really seem to gaf about winning. Shits sad honestly

[@daviddisbrow6519]

I slowly stopped watching once the Big 3 Celtics were broken up. The last NBA Finals I watched was the 2019 Finals between the Raptors and Warriors. I’m more of a college football, NFL, and MLB fan these days. I am even starting to get in to watching the NHL.

[@dwillz6648]

I asked my brother if he's watching players like AE or SJG. He said, "bro, I don't know any of these guys". Imo growing uo we had storylines that started in college. Fab 5, Fly Slamma Jamma, Running Rebels. Silver and causal fans tried to fix something that wasn't broke now it sucks.

[@m_a_i_l_l_i_w]

Doesn’t help that OKC have the worst name and branding ever. Reminds of the fake create a teams on NBA2k

[@Sambam1981]

That’s it. I said the no one follows people from college to the nba anymore. Only dude in college I heard of is Flagg. I’m 43 I remember college was hype. Then you wondered how they would do in the NBA. I haven’t watched a full nba game since 2007 when GP retired

[@TheWheels777]

College and pro basketball killed each other. Think about it, players leave school early (or skipping college entirely) and thus don't become familiar in the traditional sense of staying with one program for 3-4 years, shortchanging the college product. Conversely, the pro game gets filled with unrecognizable players, great athletes but unpolished. Overexpansion has played a role as well in diluting the talent.

[@averageguy1261]

Agreed. Additionally, when you make an teen a multi-millionaire and no one tells them "no", they become unlikable human beings.

[@coryhillman6536]

The bottom line is that each team in the NBA plays the game exactly the same way through the same analytically approved "strategies" (i.e. just shoot three pointers). Same in other sports, like baseball. Terrible. Analytics ruins sports. They create a terrible product, period. Meanwhile, NBA Cup created to generate betting action so the league can receive its cut.

[@no40]

Implement a 5 second violation instead of 3 seconds and a 3 second offensive violation outside the 3 point line

[@javierdelgado1554]

The only reason LeBron is relevant is because the media keeps him relevant...real basketball fans know he's a fraud....if he ever played in the post like Carmelo Anthony he would be dominant....but no, he'd rather be on the three point line with that awful jump shot.

[@je5406]

Agreed. He had his time. Its time to move on

[@323johnnybravo]

Lebron James and Adam Silver have ruined the game :(.

[@michaelschmidt6548]

The only thing that will Bring eyes besides “stars” is actual rivalries. The biggest issue is all of the players are friends. The media, including ex players, won’t allow villains to exist. They cry and cry about Draymond and Dillion Brooks until the nba fines them to stop. Let the guys on the court handle it. A few fights are fine but the nba has PTSD from Malice in the palace.

[@billbush3962]

It’s just product for the gambling sites

[@robertsalfelder8111]

I never gave a shit about basketball I find it boring as hell so I could care less

[@pandersonnike]

I know Dan loves the NBA since basketball is one of his loves, but it took him until recently to finally admit how the NBA isn't as popular as he made it out to be the last few years. The TV ratings have shown to be pretty weak for allegedly the number 2 sport in America with the amount of coverage Dan to ESPN gives. For all the issues I keep hearing about baseball, this show included, somehow gets a pass with the NBA is infuriating. Thankfully Shoei, and a good overall season for the game brought back some eyeballs to the WBC. I digress, but the NBA is boring. Half of the stars sit out for load management. In baseball you at least saw Shoei to Aaron Judge bat almost every night, and most pitchers show up every few days. The only load management you see are innings pitch, but at least they playing over wearing a suit on a bench. I can go into the weeds all day, but when your biggest stars don't play a quarter to a third of the year, that's a problem. When you need to generate interest with some made up cup where it feels like half of the teams don't care, that's a problem. Then the entire sport nowadays is people shooting threes, and way too much attention on nonsense like Broony James who gets preferential treatment. It's ridiculous.

[@javierdelgado1554]

And he defended the league by saying the players weren't soft like 2 or 3 years ago when I said they definitely were.

[@petercena9497]

The college game also gets a pass from the media.

[@javierdelgado1554]

@@petercena9497 the media doesn't even cover college basketball...at least not until tournament time when all of a sudden they care.

[@starscreamjesse2121]

Dominance and Dynasty is what sports leagues need to be must see. Jordan, Lebron, Curry, Mahomes, Dodgers, Yankees, Shohei, Tiger Woods, Judge, Serena, Clark. There needs to be the team or player you need to see because they are great or because you want to see them lose, but you watch because you want to know what is next.

[@nomadkeller8612]

HUGE NBA fan 1975 to 1999....held season tickets for almost a decade.....interest began to wane circa 2004 and I haven't watched ANY NBA game since 2009......assuming it's not any better today since 2009.

[@tmc1404]

NBA needs way less playoff teams. this is the only way I can see getting players to respect regular season games without major changes to the current player contracts

[@Sambam1981]

5 from the east and 5 from the west

[@EB_1059]

I watch a lot of NBA content but zero NBA games. The games are boring.

[@theophilus3793]

Fire Adam Silver.

[@popsmoke99]

Wouldnt you think with ZERO defense there would be less contact and FEWER injuries?? What are coaches EVEN needed for? ~~ "Ok Smitty, you take the next 3??"

[@carlbenson6412]

Coming from you Dan...I'm a little concerned. Hopefully folks like yourself can suggest solutions to save the NBA from going into another slump like in my childhood in the late 70's.

[@zacharytaylor7706]

1:40 this. This right here. It doesn’t matter. It’s an exhibition. Why do people make such a big deal out of it? Who cares?

[@darkknightmentality5979]

The core of the problem is the players are entitled and they aren’t as passionate about the game and winning as they were in the past.

[@TrustTheProcess34]

I call BS on Dan saying he’s watched the Wizards or Hornets this year. In fact, I’m willing to bet that Dan hasn’t watched more than 10 games all season. And nearly all are the primetime games. His coverage of the NBA this season doesn’t reflect someone who’s this hardcore League Pass watcher like he’s trying to make it seem

[@chidoriufumaki8509]

This whole segment is Giannis disrespect. Bucks games are fun to watch cuz Giannis is out there dunking on and bullying players on both ends night after night. The fact none of the people in that room even mentioned him, despite Giannis' big personality... blatant disrespect

[@chenanigans6437]

You've got a generation of fans coming into the game with attention spans they've developed from watching tik toks and KZbin shorts. Millennial fans like me are focused on their kids, careers, etc. My peers at work are more up to date on Bluey than they are on the NBA. When we do tune in, we see the things we value not as prevalent as we remember them. I personally don't want to see 60 three pointers and 240 points scored in a basketball game. I went to three random games last year just to see star players jump around the bench in their street clothes. It might just be my luck, but it was enough for me to only go back to staples center for hockey games.

[@davidbreuer5961]

There are maybe 3 NBA teams that still have loyal basketball fans.(knicks, bulls, maybe philly or toronto). All the rest are just stuck with temporary novelty fans.

[@Steven-f6x4r]

I’d throw in Celtics fans. Mainly Atlantic division teams

[@jaybanthony]

If Adam Silver thinks the game is good the way it is then they deserve to fail.

[@Shlikas]

I promise you, the fix for NBA does not involve incorporating the WNBA.

[@marcelmarshall4240]

The fact that the cohost was shocked that Dan stated that Jokic is not must-see tv..is wild. He is not must-see ANYTHING. The league changed the rules so that players like him, could compete. Before the rules changes, there was no way he could compete in the NBA with his minimal athleticism.

[@istanprincecharlesteamcami1026]

Whatever you have to tell yourself.

[@marcelmarshall4240]

@@istanprincecharlesteamcami1026 It is absolutely, true. The rules helped NON-Athletic players of European descent, the most. Do you really think Jokic could have hung with Olajuwon, Shaq, David Robinson..etc? Having to actually play defense? Having to actually deal with them guarding him, for real? He had a hard time with an old Dwight Howard!!! It would be laughable. Adam Silver and the owners want a GLOBAL game, and you need ‘stars’ from that region..so he had to make the game more tenable for the slower, less-athletic player..so many of the rule changes helped them..SPECIFICALLY. You cannot comprehend strategic moves such as that, because your entire life is probably based on random occurrences….like a leaf in the wind.

[@MrUrukai92]

​@@marcelmarshall4240 it aint that deep bro

[@marcelmarshall4240]

@ Nothing is deep when you are child with a penguin avatar and your parents pay your bills. Nothing is a ‘big deal’…until you grow up.

[@erakness]

I strongly disagree. Jokic would absolutely be great in any era. Imagine Shaq trying to guard Jokic facilitating the fast break or guarding him around the Whole floor. Just because he can’t jump over a piece of paper doesn’t mean he isn’t athletic

[@m_a_i_l_l_i_w]

For the past few years, every time I get excited for a big national TV game, I quickly find out that at least 1 or 2 stars are sitting. It’s almost every week now. Load management is trash.

[@landocalrissian3957]

My biggest issues with the nba are some of the players are spoiled (won’t play back to backs, sitting out games for stubbed toe) and the ticky tack fouls.

[@kaspar9]

There's never been a worse commission in sports history than Adam Silver!! He completely ruined the NBA

[@Demonhumper9919]

This new era is not more talented than the eras before. Defense and fundamentals are skills these guys don’t have

[@tech-no-logictech9743]

It shouldn't need to be "fixable". The players just don't give a F and it's turning people off!

[@wilsonb1121]

I have ZERO interest in watching national NBA games during the regular season. Unless it’s my local team I’ll watch them

[@jackwidmann1373]

I have gradually lost interest over the past decade. I miss the rivalries/anomosity, being unreliant upon just chucking up 3’s and everyone else stands around, playing hard every night w/o load management, prioritizing both sides of the court, etc. Subjectively, I do miss the physicality.

[@TheYellowSnoman]

Hey Dan ....Charles Barkley was traded to the Suns.

[@noitallmanaz]

Some easy fixes: 1) Either shorten the season to 66 games, or shorten the game to 10 min quarters. 2) First round of the playoffs should be a format where Conference champ gets a bye, all others play a single elimination game at the home site of the better record. Second round is the 8 teams left in each conferece in a best of 35. Third round is 4 teams left, best of 5. Conference finals and finals are best of 7. 3) Change the AS game to USA vs World. Also add 1V1 King of the Court, and 3v3 tournament, where each team has to provide players, single elimination. Change the dunk contest to a horse dunk (players do dunk, others have to match) and have 1 player from each team represent. For 3v3, dunk & 3 pt contest, have a fan competition prior and the champion gets to compete in the NBA games at AS. 4) Have an official in the production studio/truck who monitors ALL calls/non-calls and has immediate access to replay. None of the on-court officials are in charge of replay. If a replay is necessary or asked for by a coach challenge, the official in the truck/studio has 15 total seconds to render a decision and if they cannot, oncourt call stands and move on with gameplay. No replay will take more than 15 seconds. 5) Move the charge circle out 3 more feet. 6) Change the backcourt from 8 seconds to 6.

[@dpancerovas]

I'm European, and I became an NBA fan in the nineties. But lately, like many other European NBA fans, I have completely lost interest in the NBA, because who cares about NBA games? NBA games have become irrelevant, a lot of fake records and fake drama. The Euroleague is more interesting this time. The level of team basketball and coaching is higher, the palyers IQ is higher, and every single game in the regular season is important like in the NFL. Euroleague ratings are growing rapidly, YT is full of Euroleague podcasts and so on. Lonnie Walker recently said: this is real basketball.

[@fredm.2699]

Now i just check the conference standings and tell myself: yeah, they probably won by shooting 3s. Whats the point of watching?

[@craigslistreply6544]

Cause there's no rivalry anymore. Everyone knows all these superstars are really buddy buddy exchanging jerseys and shit. And the tech for taunting ruined the game.

[@samuelladnier]

Try pronouncing the best player in basketball's NAME correctly. Jesus Dan. Good thing you're otw out.

[@soylentramen7795]

He certainly knows about irrelevance

[@orlandomartinez4767]

The All-Star game should be the best game of the year but it's not because the players don't care

[@iTuber012]

This comment section is cooking 😂... All facts though. The product sucks... Thank you klutch

[@brandone6457]

The NBA is a horrible product to watch and consume. The players are unrelatable and it's a snooze fest with little to no significant story lines

[@DgDg741]

So wrong about Jokic. He’s more unique than Edwards and Morant. We’ve had high flyers. Never had a big man who can pass and see the floor like Jokic

[@thewarden549]

The NBA stinks. It sucks because I love basketball.

[@robertbergstrom7029]

Finals MVP was left off the Olympic team. Stars?

[@franknieblas7804]

Maybe everyone is finally recognizing that basketball is a boring game. It’s a mind numbing scoring fest, that doesn’t matter to watch until the last 2 minutes - and even then it’s insufferable watching foul after foul.

[@lemonscentedgames3641]

Problem with the take at 1:55 is that the old guard of the NBA tried to put on "the best pick up game in the world" and players maybe went 80% now players literally give 10% or less effort during the all star game

[@MogulKhan-pf9tl]

All the game are rigged . It’s WWE

[@Sgv1tm]

Haven’t watched the nba in 5 years, league and players are pure trash

[@markmilitant]

Put a limit on 3s then make it a 2 after a certain point, stop with tick tack foul calls, fine or limit salaries for medical injury unless serious torn bones injury

[@chrish4478]

Let them be more physical. Let them trash talk like they used to.

[@sonhuynh8222]

They can get rid of the NBA for all I care. No longer fun to watch. Just a bunch of asses shooting 3s all day.

[@crazylegs225]

Exactly the nba is pushing highlights, not narratives. I can find a highlight reel of any sport, eventually that loses its luster. They need emotional connection with fans.

[@tommyfu9271]

Regular season NBA is awful. None of the games mean anything. There's almost no luck in basketball so the best team almost always win in a playoff series. With this play in garbage almost 2/3rds of the league makes the playoffs. The players don't care about the regular season and neither do I. The all star game is horrendous. The only sports with a good all star game is baseball because the players actually try and play a normal game.

[@patrickolaughlin6027]

Gambling keeps the NBA relevant

[@ABxx2011]

It's not complicated. Just look at what made the NBA popular in the first place. Charismatic stars, spectacular plays, intense rivalries. Now we've got boring "stars," nothing but 3's, and the players are all friends collecting stats and money.

[@5MofMS]

Pro bowl = NBA all star game

[@scapegoat413]

Dan is so expired man.. thinking Jokic and Doncic aren’t exciting to watch. The fact they aren’t being embraced by the nba is a huge problem.

[@KClouisville]

Dumb as hell too. He venerates Larry Bird....and don't get me wrong, Bird might be my favorite player ever, but if you appreciate Bird I'm not sure how you can't appreciate Jokic's game at least.

[@morales1ist]

When Bron leaves NBA will be fine 🎉

[@hennocent]

You can't put the fight in the dog if it ain't there

[@bw7754]

I’ve watched 1 game so far this season lol bring back defense and I might come back

[@edgybravo4287]

Today's NBA is bad basketball disguised as "talent"