Dan & Phil - Moments that aged like milk 🤢🥛 Pt.2

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[@robhunt3]

last time i was this early dan was still on fire

[@confetticupcake]

i feel really bad for them in most of these because the “are you gay” really hurt dan for a while :(

[@angelat4512]

Definitely, and the fans 100% made it so much worse that they had to force themselves to push the “we’re not gay” narrative just because of how invasive the fans were

[@lovebotcalum]

i literally respect phil so much for closeting himself again for dan, going through dan’s “i don’t want to be near you” phase, and for always being there for dan even when dan literally wanted nothing to do with him. he supported dan so much. most people would’ve probably left dan because he was so pushy and aggressive when he was in his “no homo” phase, but phil stayed. i love phil so much and i’m so glad he stayed.

[@star-po3gb]

Jesus’lilcumbag420 69 yeah i agree i think they always loved each other dan just had some issues with his public appearance for a while

[@mynorath1208]

Omg I’m literally crying now 🥺

[@whydidyouleaveryanross1890]

what do you mean dan wanted nothing to do with him? Am I missing something?

[@tydusrain4476]

@@whydidyouleaveryanross1890 there was a time when Dan (im sure Phil a little bit too, but Dan was the one who talked about it) was so anxious about anyone finding out that he was gay that he kind of became so aggressively "im not gay" out of panic. it got to the point where they were changing the way he and Phil interacted publically so the invasive rumors would die down and no one would suspect anything. they would sit farther away from each other during interviews, appear in each other's videos and livestreams less, stuff like that. just to avoid the "OH MY GOD DAN AND PHIL ARE SO TOTALLY GAY #PHAN4LIFE" comments. it was a super dark time for Dan, but Phil was incredibly patient and stuck with him through it.

[@denomava5470]

Phil Is a real one, and I hope he is doing well and that he achieves all of his goals, he is truly an amazing person (pun intended)

[@dan5721]

I feel so sorry for them in a lot of this video, the internalised homophobia is just so loud especially from Dan and the phandom just made everything so much more difficult for them. We (and the whole internet) genuinely need to make sure a situation like 2012 never happens again to anyone.

[@leabergzwergi155]

Just asking cause I was too young but what happend in 2012?

[@dan5721]

Lea Bergzwergi just look up “2012 Dan and Phil” and you will probably find out. Basically stuff happened and people started being insanely invasive into their personal life to the point they started to completely watch themselves online and they both seemed very cautious about being at all affectionate to each other, on edge all the time and quite unhappy.

[@leabergzwergi155]

@@dan5721 thank u

[@dan5721]

Lea Bergzwergi I wasn’t on the internet at the time either I’ve just learnt about it and seen stuff from the time!

[@cristianmendez324]

Lea Bergzwergi in 2012 KZbin had a glitch and made one of Phil’s unlisted private videos that was meant to for Dan public. The video outed both of them and it was shortly privated again but ever since people have been uploading it onto KZbin. There’s even been an emergence of the video again on the internet like this month.

[@atinyofficial]

When Louise says “but you have Daa^^aAan” and you can hear the exact point in which she regrets saying that

[@jacobbrady2236]

I'm not sure if these videos are supposed to make me laugh or feel uncomfortable. I'm just gonna do both, thanks.

[@aimee1596]

the "I can't sit next to you" really hurttt,, Its so sad :(

[@shakibzz]

I thiiiink he meant like “I’ll have to be on chat in Skype anyway can I just yell hi to them from here” ??

[@George-cy3tz]

This made me think of that time where Dan went "Phil and I are separate people. We're not Smosh. We're separate people that occasionally film together"

[@idgafiminfinite]

oof I forgot how many times Dan actually flat out denied being gay, in my memory he mostly just dodged the question, that makes me so sad for him :( also those group live show clips reminded me of Tyler Oakley's recent video where he mentioned Dan and Phil never came out to him which made me curious about how many of their youtube friends actually knew.

[@JamaicanRain]

If the Valentine’s Day video was actually real, I think it was many of the English KZbinrs that would have known?

[@idgafiminfinite]

@@JamaicanRain yeah I would imagine some of the English youtubers they were closer friends with knew. for some reason I was a bit surprised that Tyler didn't (although considering they were never close friends and the journey Dan went through, it makes sense) so it just made me think that less people than I might assume knew!

[@shakibzz]

JamaicanRain the valentines vid was real (if any of this footage made you at all uncomfortable, that shit hurts. Don’t even try to find it. If it even still exists anywhere. I watched it like 7 years ago and I’ve regretted it since) but phil had meant it to be unlisted. He uploaded it to KZbin as a way to send it to Dan not as a public thing. Someone ended up finding it somehow; but it wasn’t meant to be seen by anyone other than Dan. So I don’t think that correlates? Still, I’d think Louise etc prob knew idk

[@idgafiminfinite]

@@shakibzz I would really prefer if you guys would not discuss that under my comment. It's irrelevant and invasive.

[@insertcreativeusername1216]

I used to think Shane Dawson knew because he always seemed to be threatening to out them, then i thought he was just monetizing the ship and encouraging shippers to harass them but after the James Charles thing i feel like it was probably somehow both

[@JRose3music]

I feel so awful watching this. Some of it is cute awkward cringy moments but the internalized homophobia is so much. I wanna hug them both so bad. Being a celebrity in the closet has to just be so awful.

[@angelat4512]

Especially with your entire fanbase constantly forcing it down your throat at every moment even when you tell them not to

[@TheRjmTV]

I feel so bad for Phil. On top of closeting himself, he was constantly in the shadow of Dan - like on his live streams people constantly asking for him and then Dan not wanting to sit next to him. He must have felt so unwanted :(

[@serenleslie257]

Now I’m crying 😢😭😂

[@jorjathegoodwitch]

i’m hoping that Dan had told Phil of why he felt that way around him, just cuz like people on the internet can be cruel without trying to be. poor Dan

[@m00nrac00n]

Looking back the entire D&P timeline we all need to support Phil and put some respect on him. He was always so lighthearted and professional through it all, being one of the OG KZbinrs (after all Dan was formerly just a fan of his), handled it all with grace and maturity. He did not make a big deal about his orientation or anything, he just did so for Dan. He also had a frickin Masters Degree by 23...idk he just impresses me. To do all that seemingly always with a smile.

[@crabtoes2210]

i feel so bad about how many times on live dan was asked. like it was so often and you could see how uncomfortable he was. and now knowing what was going on behind the scenes makes me super:/ the phandom had a lot of younger members back then but i feel like as dnp aged, so has their audience? so now the phandom is a lot older and at least we can see what we did was not okay and not continue the same behaviors

[@tamdeneich8107]

Why did dan have to predict Kanye running for President

[@alittle_love_toby]

The one where dan said I can’t sit next to you literally broke my heart

[@gir2005]

why did he say that though, like why is it sad

[@B3autySparks]

@@gir2005 because there was a time where Dan didn’t want to sit next to Phil/be around him because he didn’t want the oMg dAn iS gAy rumours to continue because they were overwhelming him. so he thought the less I’m around & near him the less likely people will think I’m gay.

[@sinombrerodriguez3442]

this video is like physically painful but seeing the new era is delightful. the road was rough but the kingdom is glorious

[@spooky3785]

"I dont want to sit next to you" 😭 heartbreaking, but i love how encouraging phil was and as much as that probably hurt to hear he was so patient with dan

[@miche8868]

im sorry but "whos your mancru--" " *EVAN PETERS* " took me out

[@oakley.jh.]

i’ve never seen the last one, it made my heart hurt :(

[@supershepherd]

Saaaaaaame

[@lowkeyasella]

THE BOOK AND THE BASICALLY DAILY TWEETING AND YOU UPLOADED??? BEEN A GOOD ONE THIS WEEK

[@olijovelmacdonald]

I listened to the book preview on the bus and I cried 😚✌️

[@lowkeyasella]

@@olijovelmacdonald Asdfdfghgfgh big mood

[@DobbysSock96]

I feel so bad for Dan when people kept asking him if he was gay and he kept saying no ☹️

[@Alicias]

but everyone knows sarah michelle geller is still phil's crush HAHAHA

[@black_cherry8445]

Dan crawled out of his cave A N D W I T H A B O O K

[@olliem.3012]

aww the "are you gay" montage made me want to cry, i feel so bad for dan that people kept bothering him about it. also i love how dan says bitterness- "bittah-ness" another great video! :)

[@Alicias]

i love how you show almost every clip from pinof4 omg HAHAHAH

[@mack4064]

Dan asking how life is in 2020 is freaky Kanye West went for President And he's met his tragic end by not posting for a year Well at least he didn't talk about the fires, floods, disease and plenty other shiz that's gone down this year

[@jaydaxx612]

Imagine if he predicted the pandemic

[@lisak8492]

His predictions were scarily accurate

[@mack4064]

@@jaydaxx612 Tumblr would riot

[@Sarah22410]

Truth

[@stellalindbergh6990]

All the “are you gay???” Ones are so painful :( I can hear and feel the tension and fear through my phone screen

[@imapancake3485]

The last one makes me physically hurt :'(

[@july_juli]

1:25 Dan knows what’s gonna happen if he winks, he’s doing it on purpose. Like why did he feel the need to wink.

[@hollystar311]

Didn't he do a video about awkward winking or something?

[@drugs6529]

SNEAKI SNEK WAS HINTING

[@blossumopossum0923]

I miss when these boys were still doing cute stuff together

[@will5363]

They still do it, they just don't show us.

[@supershepherd]

Anything they do together is cute

[@blossumopossum0923]

Okay y'all are valid, but I wish they showed it TwT

[@will5363]

Me too :(

[@min_nad]

Same :(

[@olijovelmacdonald]

Literally any old Dan and Phil video gives me such second hand embarrassment

[@charlilymo192]

1:22 i love how Dan felt more comfortable winking at thousands of people rather that his friends

[@FrancineAbigail09]

2012 Phan aged like milk in general

[@reilly_17]

I kinda miss the fantastic foursome ngl

[@katejepson2487]

I don’t wanna start drama but I started watching them after the fantastic foursome wasn’t a thing. like I know they had a falling out but was there some deeper thing?

[@ca-ke9493]

it doesn't seem so? but I dont really know much abt the fantastic foursome in the first place. They are definitely still friends with PJ (they've texted PJ in Phil's recent video about some Animal Crossing song). Crabstickz I'm not so sure but they met with him on their London Day-in-the-of-Life and collabed on his gameshow thingy well after the fantastic foursome drifted apart.

[@reilly_17]

I think they just wanted to do their own separate things. I don’t think there’s any bad blood between them

[@mdrnlevi]

Kate Jepson i don’t think they fell out?? i think they just grew apart? dan phil and pj did appear on ‘i can’t even’ and chris kinda stopped making frequent videos for awhile now.

[@amielmorris2549]

Novæ I don’t know if they fell out but can I just say that in the nerd quiz or whatever it was by Chris makes me super uncomfy due to the question that was like “in 2022 who was the best man at dan and Phil’s wedding” and they both look super uncomfortable

[@Kyleex4]

I completely forgot about draw Phil naked oh my god the memories are flooding back to me

[@liv_was_there]

This is so cursed I love it thank you

[@blanket4763]

Some of these are just painful ☹️

[@pot-ay-topot-ah-to4325]

also want to say a really big thank you to you @LonelyWriter because from what i know you are one of the few phan accounts who still uploads and i only became a member of the phamily this year but i know it must mean so much to so many phans that you kept them going (you kept me going) so thank you because you’re awesome

[@rivers0ng]

The amount of times that I have to mute these videos because I can't bare it is insane. Any questions about female crushes or whether they're gay and its like nope MUTE

[@clancy_iero_must_live4908]

Last time I was this early dan was making video

[@EvanNeedsTherapy]

zoe_ Iero_must_die ready to have your mind blown? Check is Twitter he’s making a video I think about his book that could be out in the next 2 weeks or so

[@clancy_iero_must_live4908]

Lily bro My mind wasn’t ready for tHAT I CANT WAIT TO SEE IT BECAUSE I HAVE DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY SO I REALLY WANT TO BUY IS BOOK

[@toomanyopinions8353]

These all make me so uncomfortable but it also makes me even more uncomfortable to think about what their actual dynamic in their relationship was 2011-2014. That much internalized homophobia colliding with actively being in a gay relationship... yikes

[@gir2005]

we still seriously don't know if they are in a relationship

[@shayshowyipee]

@@gir2005 i mean- they’ve been living together for like 10 years and they’re both gay men. plus they designed a house together. it’s just common sense at this point

[@gir2005]

@@shayshowyipee yeah i'd like to hope they are lol that would be cute :) i'd be so happy for them, but we have to wait until they come out and say it

[@sunshineking1053]

WHEW don’t wanna think about THAT

[@angelat4512]

@@shayshowyipee and yet we still shouldn’t assume, look at all the harm it’s done

[@samd77666]

This made me uncomfortable but also sad because I miss Them. Also despite being a fan since 2013, I had totally repressed the sexy endscreen dance.... until now. Also i lost it at the "are you gay?" questions 😆

[@TOPsCinderella]

I somehow repressed draw Phil naked so you're not alone 😂

[@chakyeon1963]

i just remembered the three-legged DDR challenge where they didn't even hold hands or lock arms 😭😭

[@Lexy._.]

I see a lot of comments about the negative stuff and watching these vs their new videos makes me realize how much they’ve grown and it’s sad that they went through this but I am so so proud of them and so happy for the new leaf they turned over and are finally able to live their truth

[@krissyp2169]

why are these so funny to me

[@maviene9617]

the last one is just heartbreaking : (

[@caranook]

I feel so bad for them, and a lot of older KZbinrs. They were hounded to come out, and therefore became a bit aggressive about denying it. There was a sort of similar thing with Connor Franta, with his ‘I’m not gay’ video. However I don’t think it affected him the same was as it did Dan, and it’s so sad. So glad he’s living his truth now!

[@Karin-fj3eu]

Oof connor franta was my favorite youtuber back then

[@bloodmaged]

this should be a try not to cringe challenge because watching this genuinely hurts

[@finlieward-nichols5020]

I forgot how wholesome the ending to your videos were-

[@nauticalnonsense95]

Guys, dan didn't predict kanye running for president. Kanye announced at the 2015 vmas that he would run for president in 2020. Dan was just referring to that.

[@LoveQuimper]

I feel like I just re-lived puberty.... help

[@itsmena123]

I needed this I was just cry myself to sleep when I saw this

[@PoisonousPineapples]

Oh God I'd deeply supressed the 'Draw Phil Naked's

[@tyhernandez1196]

i just wanna say how thankful i am that you’re still active! most of the dan and phil bant channels stopped uploading years ago like danisnotonfirevyou1 and oqua. please for our sake, keep creating this holy content. don’t leave us..

[@catkingthomas]

when i see the tittle all i can think about is dan saying phil would taste like spoiled milk, unlike spoiled milk, i do like your videos

[@veronicagiordano8507]

Hearing how many times ppl asked if Dan was gay makes me sad

[@reilly_17]

Every video clip from 2012 has aged like milk

[@zubenhdeZ]

The sole mention of "skin Fic" unlocked traumatic memories that I thought therapy healed

[@spoiltmilk4390]

The first video- W h e n??????

[@louvsona]

I think it’s private now?? But if you search “dan Howell gay chicken” the clip SHOULD come up

[@kaedeakamatsu1045]

@@louvsona it's not is it I swear it's a pinof

[@fluffygreysocks6703]

truth or dare. not sure which one, but one of the earlier ones. it's private. personally i think if he made it private/unlisted you shouldn't go looking for it, but it's out there.

[@relatableusername]

@@kaedeakamatsu1045 nope. Truth or Dare. if I remember correctly, it's Truth or Dare 2

[@SpeedyCheetahCub]

YAY! You featured my comment! Seriously though, thank you for continuing to make Dan and Phil content, as I only discovered them after they stopped posting a lot. I'm glad you were able to get a usable clip of that moment, as it was hard to find.

[@confettidnp3344]

aahhh the last clip makes me so sad 😭

[@a-z-fell]

The last oneeee I'm in TEARS

[@cynicismpiee]

A year without uploading, he comes back with a BOOK.

[@braydenjones4738]

the sarah michelle gellar bit was that era's "name a woman" like he just picked one and had her on deck at all time

[@bluebird1340]

These videos make me sad :( please make more of the aged like a fine wine than the milk ones :(((( im so sad

[@juliapierson5423]

I miss them so much

[@PoppyK4te]

what about the time when dan said he will upload every now and then in his first video

[@unsaltedtoast]

im going to cry that last clip :(

[@dianarojasaguilar7142]

Why am i crying over the last clip I can’t 😖

[@beepboop9750]

2012 was just painful. I can’t imagine how hard it must have been for them.

[@bubbles-bear]

i admire dan so much??? and also, you hurt me a lot with this video but I also smiled a lot??? I know I'm late again, but thnx for the amazing video!!!! 🥺 going to cry for a couple of hours.

[@ernestlam5632]

The last 20 seconds of your videos is the best ASMR on KZbin

[@sullengirl1698]

I HAVEN'T SEEN THE FIRST VIDEO OH MY GOD HELP

[@susannalayne8491]

I really needed this lmao thank you ^ ^

[@giuliaorlando9388]

The last one really hurts

[@koritsi2142]

1:40 I FORGOT ABOUT THAT LMAOOO

[@ThatOneIrishFurry]

In an era of "Why are you not in my bed" "Because your twelve" We also had every video end with "Sexy end screen dance" And "draw phil naked" All of it seemed so normal at the time i had almost repressed it

[@i_dont_know_who_i_am_93]

You just absolutely had to end on a sad one, didn't you??....

[@ConvenientlyShapedUsername]

Those last cat videos make me so happy :)

[@sarahsparks6573]

The thumbnail is everything. 😂

[@drugs6529]

Phil:Why is it all rainbow colors? Dan:Cause we’re gay uwu

[@wartygourd]

the ending of the video makes me relaxed ty for that

[@harm0niica]

this hurts

[@vanessagripton6718]

✨it hurts to watch✨

[@shanelle-rae3309]

Whenever the sexy end screen came up I thought the video was finishing aha.

[@genevieverichards6338]

i want you to know that i live for the cat at the end of the video. i love himb

[@callme_tyler742]

YASSS MOTHER UPLOADED

[@hanpeebls]

god 2012 was so fucking awkward for them :(

[@theivydaggers]

Most of these were a little cringe but not bad, but all the questions of ‘are you gay’ just made me so sad how obviously uncomfy he was

[@imabandit5739]

there's me as usual thinking this is a dapg video

[@captainaardvark5889]

That last one tho...damnnnn

[@alyssaarmenta4823]

Again this should not exist but I’ve been deprived for too long

[@daisyjefferson184]

Yassssssssssssssssssssss new upload

[@Kelly_C]

MICHAEL CERA IM SORRY WHAT I-

[@helenagerardsgrandma8463]

The video with Connor is just asdfghjkl... P.S.Your videos saved my little soul thank you

[@minoyd]

When dan liked the "like if you're a bottom" tweet

[@truebornseeker9767]

The fact that dan PREDICTED SOMETHING RIGHT ABOUT 2020, AS A JOKE, IN 2016- “When Kanye is president” HE TRIED/IS TRYING! genius. Physic

[@jasmineshovlin2776]

i rlly do love your channel

[@aliciauh-lee-see-uh1753]

quality content

[@megan1785]

the last one oh my god :(((

[@skyglitchess]

**laughs nervously**