Dancing Wings Fi156 Storch Maiden and Crash by Fat Guy Flies Rc

This plane took me several days to build and get ready. The battery placement is a real issue. I would recommend this plane as a gasser rather than a electric powered one. However she looks real good and flies ok. But in all fairness this video was done on a very windy day and I am NOT an experienced builder with ARFs. All the trims seemed neutral and the cg was perfect with a 3600 4s shoved as far forward as I can get her.
This plane would be better for someone well versed in ARF building and design.
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[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Well this did not go as well as I hoped!!

[@tomjanicki6989]

Thanks for all of the honest disclosures on build and post crash damage. Very helpful

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

I am not sure if this plane is at fault. I did pick a bad day to maiden and I am not all that good at building ARF.

[@Bellairvideo]

Ohhhh I wish E-flite , X fly or FMS would model this. Well done Greg.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

I am sure they could have done a much better job.

[@eqrc7587]

Yes a 1100mm would have been perfect scale to our 1200mm warbirds. HK should build one w/reverse thrust 👍🏻✌🏻🖖🏻

[@youknoweverything7643]

I have built a bunch if dancing wings planes and man they all fly beautiful and go together pretty easy each kit has some pieces that was tricky

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

My issue is i just don't have the patience for balsa and true building.

[@friedenshetzer8950]

Sehr fein geflogen! Habe selbst gleichen "Storch" von "Dancing Wing Hobby".... gebaut. Fliege ihn schon seit 2 Jahren. Noch nicht gecrasht! Alles Gute in die USA! Ein Sachse

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

I am glad you had a better time then I did.

[@friedenshetzer8950]

Why, my friend? So I'm over 70, I know the world and the misery. That's why I was a pilot of a Piper in Austria and today I am involved in model aircraft construction. What about you?@@FatGuyFliesRC

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

@@friedenshetzer8950 I just fly and review planes. I pass on what I have learned from a self taught perspective.Thank you for sharing Sir and I respect your experience.

[@friedenshetzer8950]

Tx!@@FatGuyFliesRC

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Good stuff. STOL is fun and different! Stick and rudder at its finest

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Thanks for the visit. I subded to you. I love your channel tittle...lol

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Just noticed your video (KZbin recommendations), and you seem to have had the same, less than desirable performance from this plane. I wanted her to do so much better, but she just didn't. Your crash landing was so close to mine, but my storch didn't have any damage inside...just my pride - LOL...but just wondering if you're taped wings helped... I left my wings "pinned" by the spar, but they still slipped back some and just made the plane fly weird. I want to try on a less aggressive pitched prop, but fear she'll just be too slow then to even fly. Too long of a build to just let her collect dust, and she is a looker, no doubt. Wonder if she's worth another 2-3 hours of salvage work. We spend something like 25 hours on ours...too long!

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

I agree I have built a bunch of ARFs before but never this much of a headache. I believe DW is the Dynam of balsa. The Tape on the wings was gorilla packing tape and yes it held them in place even with the crash so instead it shattered the wing spar and surrounding structure. But the wings were fine.....LOL . needless to say the planes servos , esc, and motor all now serve in other projects. The Storch has it's new address at the county landfill....lol. Next week I am getting the Dynam SU-26M Blue because I hate myself and love to have to keep the swear jar busy....lol FYI in my videos I keep telling you in my unboxing videos, "Oh look Brian Phillips the manual is not folded, now we are both happy" I hate folded manuals.!!!!!!!

[@trondaustad8617]

When ailron dont turn the plane put some roder then.. allso looks like you land with no flaps when u pick i up. Hope you can fix it because its a nice looking plane. Happy landings mr. And enjoy the plane. Nice video 😊

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Yeah good looking plane but it did not live beyond this flight.

[@trondaustad8617]

@@FatGuyFliesRC ok. Have a nice sumday ower there mr.😃

[@BillKisel]

Which is why at 77 years of age and just under 2 years into the hobby I'm afraid to fly paper and stick RC planes. [As a kid in the fifties I used to build paper [we called it Japanese tissue paper] and stick [balsa] rubberband planes over the course of several weeks and totally destroy them in minutes.]

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Take a chance. Try them.

[@BillKisel]

@@FatGuyFliesRC Sure, send me one. If it's free I'll fly it. 😊

[@JeffinLowerAlabama]

Should be easy to fix, Hobby Lobby has a great selection of balsa and other modeling wood. You can cut and peel back the covering, do the repairs, pull the covering back. You can use a hairdryer to warm up the covering to loosen the glue. If you don't have any covering if you need it for the repairs, use blendem or scotch tape. Even paper tape will do and you can paint it, Jeff in LA USA

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Thanks for the tips!

[@mikewatkins978]

I think one of the biggest issues this plane has is that it calls for the smallest servos on the market, the control surfaces are large and it's easy for a plane this size to fly just fast enough o put the surfaces under compression so the tiny servos can't move them. I purchased an assembled DW Storch from the ceiling of the local Hobby Shop. first thing I noticed is that the wings will swivel back a bit so I'd advise the builders to install removable wing root bolts ahead of the wing spare. Mount your receiver high above the servo deck and run your antennas back into the rear of the fuselage, the servo deck is carbon fiber and that hinders reception for the receiver. Using long Y harnesses for the wing servos allows you to route the wires out of the way for installing the battery., speaking of which, the battery box is also the motor mount box, get it set into position and instead of using the screws and angle plates to hold it in place, epoxy it in place, that way it won't shift and the battery box will be clear of the two pieces of wood the screws anchored into. Now to the afore mentioned servos, install HS 85's for the tail control surfaces and HS 65's for the flaps & ailerons. HS 55's will work for the leading edge slats, but restrict the lift of the slats to 4mm, other wise they distort the air flow over the top of the wing leaving you with stall issues. You can flip the servo plates around on one wing so that they don't need separate channels, they can work off a Y harness no problem.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Thanks for sharing your story. I have scrapped her since this.

[@garygullikson6349]

From watching your , and other flier's DW and even larger Storch models, it looks like they are too heavily wing-loaded for scale-like STOL slow takeoffs and landings like the full scale planes. The high aspect ratio skinny wings probably need differential ailerons on separate channels giving up but little or no down motion to get better lateral (yaw) stability. Maybe angling ailerons slightly up would also help lateral stability. The full scale Storch top speed was 110mph and they could land and take off like a butterfly in very small spaces.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Well the kit lacked a lot and the instruction for building were less than stellar to say the least. The fact that she flew at all was amazing. now her parts live on in other projects.

[@jcb6713]

love the scale looks of that plane but it does seem fragile...have a good one...

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

It was but a very bad day to maiden also.

[@thomasallan8113]

Even thou I built a # of balsa kits in the 90's I find these balsa and wood ARF's present some challenges and take much longer to built than I anticipated. But, I have lots of stuff in my stash now and balsa does fly better so it makes sense to start building wood ARF's and the Flite Test foam board planes. Due to similar wind conditions here in East Central Fl as in AVON Fl way too high to be thinking of a maiden. I will fly planes I am familiar with in this wind like my Efilte Valiant and my FT simple stick.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Thanks for sharing your history and thoughts on the wood planes. The Eflite Valiant is one of my favorites! Enjoy and thanks for the visit.

[@eqrc7587]

Good luck on repair. When I saw this plane for the first time I love it, but it would be a pile of stick’s by now. A foam one about 1100mm would be nice scale to my WWII Warbirds. Maybe a bush plane about the same size for a gear mod👍🏻✌🏻🖖🏻Think about it😳

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

I would have been much happier with a foam version.

[@rcaviationcrawling7351]

Cool Bird, nice flying, sounds like maybe 5 or 6 mph wind?

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

The goPro filters a lot of wind noise . It was more like 10 to 12 mph that day but still I should have not stalled . I was to low to make that last turn and should have kept her more level.

[@rcaviationcrawling7351]

@@FatGuyFliesRC Stuff happens, even to the best of Pilots!;

[@janrc]

The name of the plane comes from the creators name Gerhard Fiesel and the name of the animal stork because of the high main gear.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Interesting, thank you.

[@JS-fe8sx]

Fieseler

[@msgt81]

It sounds like you are trimming every time you fly, I’m sure that doesn’t help you in your situation. Once its trimmed you shouldn’t have to worry about it anymore.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

This was the maiden and it was very out of trim. This was a complete pile of junk plane and a very hard arf to pit together.

[@buckreynolds1779]

My condolences

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Thank you.

[@jimmyhaley727]

nice looking static model, not much in rc

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

This was a pile of crap model. I don't recommend it.

[@morrismercier9849]

Excuse me fizller is how it is pronounced. My bad.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Ok well i have long since decommissioned this plane and it's parts live on in other projects.

[@TimothyLSmith810]

Do they make a in fly plot camera for the Habu ?? Your friend novice old fart

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Sorry i do not know.

[@thomasallan8113]

Obviously a plane to avoid ur only positive statement about the plane was it looked good.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Yeah not a big fan of this plane at this point.

[@mikewatkins978]

After my maiden I have to admit all my speculation about this plane it's not worth the trouble.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Dancing Wings is the Dynam of balsa.

[@mikewatkins978]

Well, had some wait time for another ARF to show up, a GP D.R1 for an electric conversion so I spent the time putting the fuse back together, learning some covering technique now all that's left to is untangle the spaghetti that used to be the landing gear. I removed the slats and servos from the wings, and I'm going to give this plane one more try. If successful I'm going to add fixed shaped slats to the wings off of a turbo timber I used to have. It will take two sets to be able to do both wings. @@FatGuyFliesRC

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

@@mikewatkins978 Good luck my fuse was badly cracked after this and the wings connection were toast.

[@goldendredger]

These Dancin wings plane look good but sure don't seem to fly well for anyone. The savage Bobber by Dancing wings is a sharp looking plane but flys like absolute crap. Now this plane does not look like it has the best flight characteristics.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

I had to try her. Wish I had not.

[@morrismercier9849]

fizeler is how it is pronounced. just an fyi.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

ok

[@dutchloveRC]

never been a fan of the Storch... this didnt help lol

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Well I tried it but that's one way to learn.

[@FlankerTanker]

I keep well away from these aircraft - regardless to what the so called Reviewers might have to say on youtube - - will you repair of scrap it ?

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

I agree while the DW stick 14 turned out to be amazing the storch was a dud. The damage was much worse than seen in the video and even worse when I took a second look after the initial assessment. It WAS a pnp and now the parts live on in a new project...yet to be reviled!

[@nheather]

Doesn’t fly like a Storch at all, far to fast, the real plane was very much a STOL aircraft, slow and stable for observation roles, low stall speed could practically hover in a head wind. This one is flying far too fast, admittedly you didn’t have the leading edge slats, but even so it seemed over-powered, I wonder whether it would be better on 3S. The real design of the Storch is always going to make it a fragile model.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

This was a very poor model and yes not scale at all. uncontrollable.

[@Jack-gy7cs]

Way too fragile for my type of flying. Haha

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Well its good looking in a way....lol

[@musk-eteer9898]

i never had good luck with DW planes, they're all seem fragile and flimsy.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

This one seems to be no exception.