Reversing a Yamaha 703 forward control

[@Fishingonthesolent]

I dont normally comment on you tube videos but I'm currently out on my boat fitting this exact throttle system and you have just saved me so much time, thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos!

[@dean2246]

Just wanted to say a quick, thanks a lot. I have just completed this fix on a Suzuki controller exactly as you suggested by grinding the pins down and then drilling and tapping the holes and using a screw to hold the parts in place with a washer. Changed a push throttle to a pull. Job done....cheers

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome Dean, glad you got your controls sorted.

[@OutdoorWisdom17]

So i tried unsuccessfully off and on for a year to do this without success. Until you posted this video that is. I was able to do in 10 minutes what i hadn't been able to do in months, and successfully reverse the gears in my 703 after picking up a spare part from a shade tree mechanic. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome. :)

[@albertrydstrom7426]

Wow!! This video really saved me hours of headaches. This is exactly the problem I have with the new control box from Yamaha. Cheers!!

[@Fireship1]

Great video Stu. Those control boxes always seemed complicated to me. The last one I opened up had a bunch of parts jump out at me leaving me to figure out a puzzle when reassembling it. Took lots of beer and head scratching to get it back together!

[@DangarMarine]

Sitting back and drinking beer while someone scratches your head doesn't sound too bad. ;)

[@edgewatersbestguitarist1524]

The cable end on that motor is different. It hooks on the side of the threads not at the tip. You'll notice the hole is smaller on the correct end too (that's why it won't idle down all the way)

[@edgewatersbestguitarist1524]

6H4-48344-00-00 is the part #

[@boatin15]

You need to also reverse the drum that the warm up lever attaches to. If you use an OLD pull throttle box for the part, brass piece where the tension is, and you put it in a new box you also have to transfer the bushings and wave washer from where the pin locates in the box.

[@jefferywalters1366]

Is there a place to order a parts kit in case you loose a bearing. Asking for a friend. Is there a parts breakdown that shows where all the parts go.my friend seems to have a extra plastic bushing can't figure out where it goes.

[@usmc7599]

Stumbled across your video, just what I needed. My problem was the Warm up throd. Mine was in the wrong position. Turned the round disc 180% and all is good. Thanks

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome, glad the vid helped you. :)

[@larrybalowski951]

thanks for the video just got a new Vevor side mount controller and ran into the samE PROBLEM JUST AS YOU .GLAD I SAVE MY old PARTS . i have to do same thing to my old 1994 25 hp mariner thank you

[@PorkBarrel.]

Thanks Stu. Always wondered what that protruding screw was. Well thought out and great presentation..as always.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks John! I know it isn't a job most people are every going to need to do but I'm glad it cleared up one mystery.

[@joscojessie]

Hi. Also thank you so much. I had to convert mine the other way to a push. I did not have a spare part so I had to “un peen” the pivot pins. Why they couldn’t have used washers and C clips. One thing you did not mention is that you need to rotate the disk 180 degrees on the cold start lever. If you look at the disk you will notice that there is a second notch on the top of the disk. At least in this case you just have to undo 2 screws instead of punching out peens. I discovered this when the cable went the wrong way when I pulled up the cold start lever. Not sure if I will even need this on a fuel injected anyway.

[@esurcylimaf4335]

Your videos are always a wealth of information mate. Have a Merry Christmas and safe New Year.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate. You have a merry Christmas and great New Year too! :)

[@octaviohoo]

hello! Following your tutorial I assembled the controller correctly! I changed the microswitch that was bad! When I started the engine the fuse that goes to the rectifier blew! It may be because I tried it without the cables that go to the starter relay being connected.

[@gustoren]

Thanks for a great video. I would love to know the number of the parts you said you were gonna order in the end of the video? I have the exact same setup. Switched from push to pull. My throttle cable also turns out to be too short. I cant find the right part to order though to be able to fit the throttle cable to the motor Thanks again! Best regards Björn/ all the way from Sweden

[@linocini6455]

This video was the perfect explanation for my problem. Well done.

[@gts8324]

Amazing creativity ! This is exactly my problem and hopefully it works !!

[@DangarMarine]

Best of luck!

[@gts8324]

Worked perfectly. I didn’t have a spare so I did exactly what you suggested regarding grinding the pivot points and tip it. and it worked ! Thanks so much !

[@cybeer67]

Once again.. THANK YOU. It appears every weekend as I ecounter problems.. you are my life-saver ! If by any chance you visit Puerto Rico, let me know. Blessings !

[@DangarMarine]

You're very welcome Luis. Glad the videos have been helping you out! :)

[@jefferywalters1366]

I been trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong trying to install a new controller for the last 3days. Your the only one I have found that even address this problem. Thanks alot

[@DangarMarine]

Glad I could help

[@larryviars6199]

Awesome videos. I have a house in PI where my wife is from and have a small boat with a messed up controller. I think the saltwater has won the battle. Hard to get parts here and improvising is about the only tool you have. Seems an old motor is like an old person. You fix on thing and something else goes wrong

[@sminkypinky4457]

Greetings and thanks from the Isle Of Skye; great videos always well put together and extremely helpful.

[@DangarMarine]

Glad to help!

[@jimbogasoline2042]

I got my shirt in a few days ago. Thanks man, that was very nice of you!😊 I noticed that Australia writes the date different than US with day first compared to month first.

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome. It's not so much Australia, the US is only country in the world that writes month / day / year! :)

[@esurcylimaf4335]

So does the Philippines Stu..they write month day year. My wife has had many issues here in the beginning. But then again the Philippines is/was very Americanised. How's that for a nice word...lol

[@DangarMarine]

Ah, interesting. I took a look here to see what the spread was and I didn't notice the two other purple dots. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country

[@jimbogasoline2042]

I Learn something new everyday!

[@john7017]

Thanks for taking your time to make another great informative video!

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome John. :)

[@theman2690]

You are an absolute lifesaver i thought I was going completely insane

[@robertfillion3635]

Thank you so much for this video. Extremely useful in my case. You're THE MAN :)

[@DangarMarine]

Glad it helped!

[@anthonyhayden320]

Merry Christmas Stu and Family, I hope you have a fantastic Christmas and a happy new year with a hangover to remember it by lol

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Anthony. Merry Christmas to you and your famliy too!

[@dougplommer9961]

My twin 704 has a little slop in shifting into gear ( starboard shifter), are there replacement part you recommend to replace inside controller to get a more positive shift. 2005 controller with new shift cables. Port side controller shifts good.

[@jejoko]

Dangar I'm hoping you can help me out. I have twin yamaha's and my forward controls are not opening the throttles at the same rate. They start out fine at first but then the more you give it gas the larger the discrepancy between throttles. When I run at high speed the right handle has to be more forward that the left for both engines to have the same rpm. I thought at first that the throttle/cable parts/levers on the outboards could be loose or worn out. But they are fine. Both have been synchronized at neutral and at idle. Both idle at 700 rpm.

[@DangarMarine]

The idle stopper screws will set how far the throttle plates close and therefore your idle speed. I would adjust the cables to give you equal revs at full throttle and let the idle screws handle the balance at the low end.

[@jejoko]

@@DangarMarine Thank you for your reply! I have done that. They both idle at 700 rpm and with the binical handles all the way forward at full throttle they both run at equal rpm. (Sorry for the long post but this is quite difficult to convey in a text message, I'll do my best) The problem is at mid range. The binicals are not consistently opening the throttles at the same rate as I push the handles forward. They start out consistent up until they reach 2.5k rpm. After that point the discrepancy starts and the rpms get further and further apart as I move up the handles. To the point were one engine will be at 3.5k and the other at 5k with the handles at par with each other. I have visually inspected and measured the throttle openings between the idle screw and the stopper on both engines with the handles at par to each other at different positions in the mid range and I have confirmed that one is progressively opening more than the other. Again, at idle up to 2.5k they are the same, and at full throttle they are the same. But in between that range they open at different rates. If I want to run at 4k or 4.5k the levers have to be significantly at an offset, with one almost a full handle grip length further out than the other. What could be causing this? Wear in the binical? Wear in the throttle levers? (But I have checked them and don't show wear and all parts are identical) I am very puzzled by this. Please let me know what you think. Thank you!!

[@jejoko]

@@DangarMarine I've made a video to try and better explain what is going on with my binical and throttles. Thank you for your help. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX7CfXuadtlgbpY

[@user-ym9wb2mk5e]

Thanks again mate! Changing out a mercury 3000, junk and prone to wear; increasingly hard to locate parts or unavailable. I have ordered a Yamaha 6x3, I am assuming the push/pull mechanics are the same ?

[@DangarMarine]

At the end of the day they all push and pull the same type of cable the same distance so they are all pretty interchangeable.

[@richardcranium5839]

interesting. always fun figuring travels angles direction forces when fabricobbling but when its already deisigned and in use you would think everything would interchange...... oh well

[@DangarMarine]

Yes, it was frustrating to see it wasn't usable as is, but it's also good for me to learn about this so I know next time.

[@elgen13]

Hi Stu ! Keep up your good work !!! You are a good "explainer". Hope you are doing well downunder !!!

[@sijoantony8533]

Please explain Yamaha 75hp two stroke engine connecting gear box to engine and tachometer conation

[@sijoantony8533]

I like to sir all videos

[@jimbogasoline2042]

Bolt lower unit to the midsection. Tighten shift linkage nut. Having fulfillment and joy using a tachometer, I guess!

[@DangarMarine]

These videos might help you kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4SziIKvr9p1g7M kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaOqh4aiacShbrM

[@retarivs]

What,s the part number for this locking collar?I have the same problem of cables falling too short

[@edgewatersbestguitarist1524]

6H4-48344-00-00

[@crispernator]

Gday mate would that have been a 701 controller ,i bought one of them by mistake for my enduro and could not for the life of me work out why it wouldnt work ,took it to my local guy and was about to leave it there and he said you got the wrong controller on this ,thats what happens when your green bought a 703 and it worked fine you live and learn .

[@DangarMarine]

For sure it's a real gotcha. We don't see many particularly old outboard as they get worked pretty had every day of the week and rarely last more than 10 years so I didn't even know they used to be the other way around!

[@melvinolthof6881]

😅 Youre the man i almost bought a complete New set tomorow im changing it and prob im on the canals in netherlands with my 1966 vega speedboat youre the man ❤ im kinda noob with boats so yeah i had no idea this whas all i needed

[@Brolly916]

Hey with this hack would i be abel to use my 703 control box to move the boat foward when i select revers ? As i just changed my outboard and noticed that the control box is designed to be mounted on the right side of the boat but i need it mounted to the left side of the boat

[@DangarMarine]

Not really because this only affects the way the throttle moves, not the gear selector.

[@Brolly916]

Dangar Marine so i would need a left hand side controll box to mount the control box on the left side of the boat and select the gears to the proper way?

[@joshking3295]

dude! the thing about the newer vertion of the cable holder on the engine size being to close to the selector. thats exactly the problem i have! but i went to my local dealership and they gave me that engine mounted cable clamp. could you tell me the part number that i should've been sent? obviously the older one, mine is also an 80's engine. i know its a long shot... but ???

[@iansigman1651]

Boat ran, had rats eat the wire harnesses. I had the remote apart to replace a wire harness, never messed with the mechanical linkages, put it back together, and now I have lost throttle response using the control arm. Shifts fine, neutral accelerator lever works, and activates throttle linkage, but no positive throttle while shifting past 30 deg. in forward, or reverse! I can't find any missing parts, or anything missing compared to a Seloc manual pic. i just had it open - gently! -for a couple hrs! What happened?

[@ΓιώργοςΝ-δ9χ]

An interesting video but what can I use when I spoil the pins to reverse it??Have you an idea??

[@ufcguruofficial714]

I have an older late 70's early 80's Honda 100 9.9hp outboard. I have yet to use it. Should I keep it or buy a newer Honda 9.9???

[@DangarMarine]

It all depends on condition, it could be fine or it could give you a lot of trouble. I'd try it first then decide.

[@user-nt8xv1ns7w]

Good day from Canada. Thanks, I didn't know. You have good videos, learning a lot. (Have subscribed) Backpacked the earth for fourteen years non-stop now need to explore the water. In process of wrapping my brain around all involved to live aboard and see the world by boat. Your information has helped. Nice to know there's a quality mechanic when I get to your region of the world. Haven't decided on sail or power boat yet the MacGregor 26m has best of both worlds. More research needed. Curious what you think about large hp desiel outboards for extended running times (ocean crossings) over gas fueled outboads. Like the Green Machine. Thanks again.

[@DangarMarine]

Hey Andrew. There certainly are plenty of choices when it comes to cruising. I personally like sailing catamarans as they give you plenty of space and good maneuverability under motor. Check out the KZbin channel "Catamaran Impi" They are a nice couple that have been travelling the world for a long time now on their boat. With regards to cruising motors your only real choice is diesel if you want to travel any distance, you just can't carry enough petrol to get very far in comparison.

[@user-nt8xv1ns7w]

Dangar Marine Thank you, didn't know about the fuel consumption difference. I'll check the catamaran channel you recommended. Appreciate the reply.

[@amershop3251]

Ho bro i have yamaha 703 i want put grease for shift but i dont where can u show me pls place or viduo thx

[@damodoesall6240]

What is the big screw at the front of the 703 control for ?

[@DangarMarine]

Is it the tension screw I talk about in this video you are referring to?

[@jiggity9572]

Can the forward/ reverse shifter be switched on that type of control box?

[@Catfish-lp2it]

I need to find that part do u have a part number

[@vetterfellow]

A fine Operation Doctor Stu; Your making me jealous with the tee shirt, and I need a sweatshirt and other warm clothing. Thanks fer de Video Mate. Tell Eddie, Uncle Angelo said Hi. ****Merry Christmas **** to you and yours and your viewers wishing all a **** Happy Holliday season ****

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Angelo, Merry Christmas! Hope it doesn't get too cold for you. It was 40 here yesterday which is way too hot, but much cooler today fortunately!

[@vetterfellow]

40 Deg. Is that Celsius or Fahrenheit? the temperature I'm talking about is Fahrenheit and 40 is, BRRRRR **** Then again 40 deg. Celsius = 104 F. Guess the humidity also would be a factor. Stay cool Bud !!!....

[@shaqinahkamsani3601]

Hi, I’ve got a boat that’s using yahama 701 remote control but the throttle handle is damaged. I was wondering if the remote control can be replaced with the 703 model?

[@ahmedemaraa1978]

man you saved me ❤ thanks alot may god give you peace

[@valeriomarinelli5033]

Bravo-bravissimo!!! thanks from Italy ;-)

[@DangarMarine]

Welcome!

[@anthonyhayden320]

Another great video Stu. I hope your somewhere cool, bit hot today lol.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Anthony. Sure is has been warm lately. Fortunately the workshop isn't too hot.

[@marinediesel]

i missed the meetup i didnt hear anymore about it after you first mentioned it

[@DangarMarine]

Bummer. I mentioned in each of the videos before the meetup, but not until the end. Let me know your email address and I'll add you to the group for organising the next one.

[@stat332]

Is the 704 reversible as well?

[@marcoaurelio9879]

bom dia manete do meu comando passa direto de frente para trás ou seja não esta travando na posição neutra. o que pode ser.

[@abdoulkaderkonte5201]

Slt tu est vraiment super je comprends angles mes je comprends explications par image

[@kagankorsu8995]

same porlem is my problem. what abaout make

[@sijoantony8533]

Thanks for video

[@DangarMarine]

Welcome. :)

[@michaelekberg2661]

Thanks for another great video, I'll just Freeze on here in the North. 😉

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate. I was sweating during this video. Come visit! ;)

[@ronpowell2373]

41 deg for me, 40 tomorrow, Stu is typically a degree or so cooler.

[@michaelekberg2661]

Well, here are 5deg below zero! Brrrrrr! 😂

[@j3bayhousebayhouse306]

Ty bro

[@sijoantony8533]

Thaks sir

[@normanboyes4983]

Stu- it is even worth joining you on a journey of failure. Love your vids.👍😂

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Norman!

[@mabs503]

Making it a Reverse Control? :)

[@DangarMarine]

Only if you are sitting in the boat facing backwards. ;)

[@tiagomarkes5778]

Salvou minha vida 👏👏👏👏🇧🇷

[@charlesstiles8904]

I GOT IT ALL BACK TOGETHER BUT ITS STILL NOT 100%. FLIPPING THE ARM SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE BUT ITS DEFINITELY NOT THE ANSWER. EVERYTHING WORKS BUT ITS STIFF AND GETS STUCK SOMETIMES. THE NEUTRAL THROTTLE ARM DOESN'T WORK AT ALL. IT LOCKS WHEN I SHIFT TO NEUTRAL AND TRY TO REV THE ENGINE WITH THE SIDE THROTTLE. I BOUGHT THE REAL BRACKETT. WE'LL SEE IF THATS THE ISSUES OR ITS AN ADJUSTMENT PROBLEM

[@kimnrgaardhansen9172]

You should also have reversed the drum in the cover, then your throttle cable would have the correct length. Best regards from Denmark.

[@charlesstiles8904]

I grinded the bracket off and flipped it. Nothing is working as it should. Throttle and shifting is out of wack.

[@cheloflores2912]

My stak in the middle fwd ok not back

[@frederiklueschen3105]

👍

[@ronpowell2373]

Ahh, I see Dave has upgraded the Landy to a tractor- much more usefull :-)

[@DangarMarine]

I wish he had but he's just pushed it in front of my bench so we could also fit the tractor in...

[@abdulazizbawazer]

ياليت شبابنا المسلم العربي يعملو لنا مقاطع زي كذا نستفيد من خبراتهم

[@nickleoffd]

Can I have the old piece lol

[@DangarMarine]

I might still have it if you really want it.

[@roberthickman4092]

audio sounds worse than it has been recently.

[@stanpatterson5033]

...but still quite acceptable. I had no problems understanding what he was saying. Yes, I admit, you wouldn't call it "broadcast quality" audio, but again, it did the trick for me.

[@DangarMarine]

Interesting that it is lower. I appreciate you mentioning it so I can look into it.

[@vtwinaddicted5852]

outstanding info, i'm in the middle of the same thing right now, please make part 2 soon, thanks!

[@DangarMarine]

What was part 2 going to be about? I can't even remember!

[@vtwinaddicted5852]

how you got it all to work,lol

[@p0ptartz123456789]

We'd love the part 2 also Dangar Marine!!