Installing HyDrive hydraulic steering in a boat

[@georgecollar443]

I love the fact your having a beer in each video. It tells me you're a down to earth person and not a full blown drunk. Thanks from Newfoundland Canada for all the info.

[@Fish368]

Hi Stu - I have watched a lot of your videos about boat steering! I have an old fibreglass boat, 4.5 metre! Hinton. I converted the steering cable original 8ft to 9ft cable, hooking up to the motor through the tilt tube! Which as you explained was rusted! It's only a Teleflex kit, new steering wheel! Thank you so much! For all your videos! I watched them all! From terrible steering, skipping teeth, and everything! A big thank you! Stu !

[@Fish368]

Many thanks Stu! You are a very good seaman! You are very multi talented! And I commend you! Thanks for all these steering help, once again! Kevin!

[@danieloskarsson]

You are so humble and I dont think you understand what a absolute bank of knowledge you are.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Daniel, I hope the videos help you. :)

[@CaptDavesSportfishing]

never installed a hydraulic steering unit, before? I call that surprising to say the least for a boat mechanic? Here's a big tip....instead of buying that expensive fluid in the future, purge all and put in the found everywhere (USA) Marvels Mystery Oil) at every wally world and cheap with multi- benefits: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ap2lkKtmoLGZnLc

[@RC-nv9lj]

Hi sir im planning to buy hydrolic steering for my 115hp mercury 2 stroke that i have problem pulling to starboard what kind of hydrolic steering woold you recommend my boat is 17.6 aluminum deep vee Thank you

[@tema640akylenok3]

R p l no no no

[@gregohare2406]

You can also use the existing screw holes to attach a piece of plywood on the back side of the existing hole, allowing you to use the hole saw guide bit. Using a compass, you can also premark the plywood with a circle the size of the existing hole, while the compass center point will give you the exact center for the hole saw.

[@maggru91]

I don't even own a boat, I live in a forest, but I watched this entire video. You are so great at explaining it was a pleasure to watch

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed. :)

[@kingfish3066]

Love your videos, no one else is as thorough as you when it comes to explaining things , we call you the professor, keep up the great work.

[@matickmatick941]

excellent, I have been stewing over bleeding the system for weeks. the written instructions are good but to see it done makes it so much easier. thanks guys

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate, glad to hear the video has helped you.

[@CoolKD2005]

I'm not a boat person until I bought a boat this winter, so a total noob.But now I'm glad it came with hydraulic steering. Thank you for your effort making these vid's :)

[@mhlanombembe5510]

I bought a 2nd hand boat with a cable steering which was very difficult to turn due to corrosion so I was thinking of changing the cable ... Then I saw this video and heard of hydraulic steering advantages and I have never saw hydraulic steering before... I ordered the hydraulic steering which happened to be exact brand you used to demonstrate... I managed to install it with no difficulties and its working very well . .I can assure you I never read the manual I just did exactly as you did in this video... Yu are the best teacher I have ever seen.. Lot of people think I'm an engineer when they see the confidence I have just from your lessons... THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH!!!!!!

[@mhlanombembe5510]

My concern is the linkage bolt . . I had to cut it aswell ... I guess the factory has to pay us for shortening the bolt through grinder

[@DangarMarine]

Hi mate, glad the video helped you with the install. Enjoy your new boat. :)

[@dtreloar63]

Installed my Hydrive in my boat today. I watched your video several times while waiting for it to arrive 🙄 i did the bleeding a bit different, i purchased 5m of plastic tube and ran it from the bleed straight back into the container above the helm. It made bleeding a breeze!

[@scubatube9015]

I know this may be a little late being its 2019 now but I have found a trick when using hole saws you might find useful. If you have a small hole and need to make a bigger hole mount a piece of wood to use as a backer that your pilot bit can go threw and keep the hole saw from walking around.

[@WattsMarcos]

Make sure its quality hard wood though so the drill bit bites down, it will just churn up in ply and soft wood

[@colebz420]

Or you can put the smaller size hole saw bit inside of the bigger one. They will both thread on the mandrel.

[@birdy695]

I'm looking to install hydraulic steering to my 4.5 meter rib, this video has helped answer pretty much all the questions I had.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate, glad it helped. :)

[@tapeworm1958]

Thank you for the before and after !! I can’t find another video with the after. I’m sold . Also your video is waaaay more detailed than anything else I could find.

[@berikco]

Recently i upgraded my boat from Honda 90 to Honda BF 150. And this was a big difference in steering with the push/pull cable system. Port steering became very heavy at high speed. So after watching your video, i decided to go for hydraulic steering. And today I installed a HyDrive Admiral Tilt Tube Mount Balanced Cylinder Kit on my boat, feels so much better. Test on water is planned for sunday. Thanks for your video, it was a great help!

[@DangarMarine]

Hydraulic steering does make a huge difference with bigger motors. Glad the video helped you and good luck with your on-water test!

[@berikco]

The test wend fantastic, feels like a different boat now. Before the engine had a free play about 3 cm left to right, now with the hydraulic Cylinder, it's locked in place, and the steering weel play was about 6 cm, now almost zero. I also installed a Zipwake Dynamic Trim-Control System, no more rock and roll.

[@fragilelivesbrokendreams3074]

Prob don't remember me , I should have never started watching you rebuild that trawler. Ended up buying a boat to restore 3 years later now and getting ready for sea trials once it get the steering finished up . Been missing you stu

[@joe833a]

I admire your knowledge and ways you work. You give us very clear precise explanations of everything your doing. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate, glad you like the videos. :)

[@markerbuoy]

Excellent video for anyone upgrading to hydraulic steering. My compliments on your comprehensive, practical guidance and thankyou so much for not waving the camera all over the place! Well done!

[@silverzbullet]

Hey mate, I'm currently half way through one of these installs. As a heap of people have commented already - you're vid is spot on and heaps of help. Just finished screwing in the helm and cylinder fittings. I swear these things come from factory designed to face the wrong way! Cheers

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Stuart, glad the video is helping you with the install. This steering has been working great since it went in, I'm sure you'll be happy with yours. :)

[@benphilippi9325]

I just installed a hydrive on the weekend and remembered seeing this video years ago. It makes a bloody brilliant tutorial and helped me out a lot. Was a 2008 evinrude 75hp using commkit1. Issues I ran into were I had to Put the pivot arm above the tiller arm in closest hole to pivot. spacers all the way to port (one thick on port, thin on starboard) Had to unscrew the cowling to make room for the bolt rather than cut it down too much.

[@keonfrederic1857]

Looks like this hydraulic steering makes a world of difference. Definitively thinking about upgrading now. Thanks for sharing.

[@DangarMarine]

Hey Keon, I'm certainly sold on it now.

[@jamietolman9255]

Thanks so much for the fantastic videos. Especially the unforeseen trouble shooting ideas. I just completed a hydraulic steering install on my '87 Arima. Even though mine was a different make with slightly different fit and finish, it is so helpful to watch a detailed walk through of a similar job. Last year I was able to disassemble my 9.9 Yamaha kicker to clean out all the salt water deposits that were clogging the cooling system. You provided excellent tips on how to pull the flywheel without specialized tools. Extremely helpful. Thanks so much!

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome, glad the video helped you. :)

[@alainmoran8560]

Tip for the future - you don't need to rely on the centre hole with a hole saw. Get yourself a hole saw that fits inside the existing hole, then mount both the inner and outer saw on the same arbor - you can then use the inner hole saw to centre the outer one ;)

[@enigma9789]

fkn smart! i never thought about that.

[@417Dobro]

Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@davidjessee7701]

Shut up!! I would never thought of that

[@circe42]

I was just about to suggest that as a construction Electrician we do that all the time . Great video Thanks for all of your help

[@ricbarker4829]

@DAMIAN WAGNER It would be a lot easier to get a piece of plywood, mark and drill the three new holes, use those holes to mount the scrap plywood and then use a 85mm hole saw to drill new hole.

[@willywonka8730]

Tip - put a nut on any bolt before you cut it off. after cutting and grinding the tip remove the nut to clean out and starting burrs. Love your vids have helped me with several issues.

[@DangarMarine]

Yes, probably is a better way to go than using the thread repair kit.

[@willywonka8730]

actually the problem I have is getting the threat cutter started after I cut and grind the bolt. If I have one handy, I put the die on first before cutting the bolt otherwise I use a nut. Cuts the time and the cross threading problem.

[@forcetactical5525]

Awesome video. Helped this newbie bleed my Seastar system. Thank you for all the vids you post...As a new boat owner I look to your page first for guidance, on how to diagnose and fix things.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate, really glad the videos are helping you. :)

[@gstep51]

Thanks for providing this tutorial. I have a 2005 Skeeter SX170 with a Yamaha 90 2 stroke with mechanical steering. I thought I would do some preventive maintenance and clean and lube the cable where it enters the tilt tube. That is when I found out that in order to do this the engine has to be removed to get the cable out of the tilt tube. I don't think Skeeter will be winning any awards for that design. It is going to be hydraulic steering for me this spring. Skeeter was very short and to the point when I contacted them and were not at all embarrassed to tell me I had to remove the engine just to do some routine maintenance. Anyway, thanks for this info as it looks to be a pretty simple task albeit expensive.

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome Greg. Yes, I've seen plenty of transoms that make it almost impossible to work on the steering in situ, it's a real pain. You won't regret the hydraulic steering though, it's well worth it.

[@trevorhanlon471]

Thanks Stu, just installed the same system to a 23 " g craft I acquired recently, Boat came with everything in the Hydra kit except complete instructions. Lucky for Me " youre the Man " and I couldnt of installed it correctly without youre valuable assistance once again.Tight lines :)

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome Trevor. Well done on getting it installed. Time to head out fishing! :)

[@Mvr01008]

Your videos are very detailed and very well explained. Makes big difference practicaly seen how to get it done than reading manual and translate. Thank you and keep the great videos you do!

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Nikolas, glad the video help you. :)

[@doktorjonsson3860]

I've watched this video 2 or 3 times before but skipping to "the good bits", but now as I'm going to install one myself I watched the whole video and it's absolute gold!

[@mediaofline]

Today the first snow arrived here in Sweden. I'm going to watch your videos all winter and dream about the summer and when I can throw my boat in the sea again.

[@DangarMarine]

I'll do my best to share our summer with you. Enjoy the skiing! :)

[@mydigitalhomeuk]

Hi great video. As a suggestion use two hole saws one at 85 size you want and a smaller hole saw same size as the existing hole on the same arbour and now you have a perfect centralised hole. This is a regular trick for electricians installing replacement down lights in ceilings.

[@BrianBallardmasalaicno]

Magic, I had that linked to my radar, chartplotter & autopilot by Raymarine... Bloody massive & so easy to install & setup... my boat was a Bob Oram C39 powered catamaran, 40ft x 24.6ft, weighing in at 4500kg fully ready to cruise for 2000nm - near 3 years alone along the Great Barrier Reef...

[@DangarMarine]

I'm certainly hoping to get up to the reef in the new boat.

[@ianfischer4141]

A brilliant video mate! And I learnt so much more from watching it then I did tooling through the fairly scattered instruction manual from HyDrive. One problem I did strike is that when I installed the helm pump and hand tightened the two brass oil unions until they seated in out quite firmly, they were both facing the 3 o’clock position (port) , whereas my oil pipes come in from 180° apart at 9 o’clock (starboard) There is simply no way I could turn them any further to make up that discrepancy of 180°, if I attempted that it would split or crack the helm housing for sure. According to the manual, if this happens, they recommended unwinding the union until it is positioned as close as possible to where you want to connect the pipes. This made the union very very loose, and although I applied the Loctite solution to it, there is simply no way it would tighten up the male to female connection, and as a matter of fact, after 12 hours, I could easily unscrew both the unions with my hands and the unions were far far too loose to expect them to hold, Loctite or not. After a lot of drama, I eventually rerouted both the oil lines to a position where I could just get them into the two tightened union connection points. They have a good run and are not obstructed, blocked or twisted, but I’m far from happy with the union connections to the helm pump and if there is going to be a leak I feel that is where it is going to be. Anyhow, all finished, looks good, the output connection went very smoothly and much easier accessing those two unions into the hydraulic piston cylinder. Bleeding the system on Saturday so guess then I’ll know the worst! Congrats on the vid Mate, superb! 👍👍👍

[@1Longranger]

One of the best upgrades I have done was installing a Hydrive system. It has been trouble free for years.

[@DangarMarine]

It is a great steering system.

[@dannygeed9322]

Thanks for this video guide, it helped a lot. The manual is comprehensive but it is so much easier to see how you do it and follow that. I am nearly done installing the Hydrive on my Suzuki DF140. Cheers Stu

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome Danny. :)

[@gregohare6412]

Another great video. Just one suggestion; I epoxied a small piece of 3/8" plywood that is cut to approximately 2" wide and slightly longer than the existing hole (round plug not necessary). You can also dado the edge of the plywood to seat into the old hole. This allowed me to utilize the center drill bit of the hole saw. Love your videos. Even watch just to learn more about my 22 year old Mariner 90! Thank you for posting.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Greg, sounds like adding a backing plate so you can use a hole saw is the way to go. A few other people have mentioned they ran with that technique.

[@troposquare]

just getting ready to install HyDrive steering on my 32 foot Moreton Bay Cruiser. Your video is really helpful. Appreciate what you've done here

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Geoff, glad to the video helped you, good luck with the install.

[@wolvenar]

Thank you for this. I am fairly new to higher power boating, and in (a long) process of rebuilding a boat from literal trash. This is an inboard/outboard setup, which I built from donor parts the engine and stern drive.. All rebuilt to new or better spec. I maxed the hulls original HP rating doing this rebuild/upgrade, but have rebuild heavier stringers and transom so there should be no troubles there. However as I said, being fairly new to higher powered boats I was rather taken off guard when this exhibited all the symptoms you showed on that boat. So glad to come across this vid. It explains a good deal and a solution. Now a new subscriber. Thanks for the great vids, awsome introduction to boating.

[@DangarMarine]

Hi mate, sounds like you've been doing some great work on your boat restoration. In my opinion you've done a great thing reinforcing the hull and transom, that is something people often over look. Thanks for subscribing!

[@joec9016]

Fantastically helpful. After watching your channel I have changed the waterpump kit on my 150 Yammy / 20ft Outrage. I installed a fuel filter/water separator. Now I feel like I can diagnose a problem with my hydraulic steering where it seems ok running for a while but binds up going to starboard at some point. Thanks.

[@rogerbayzand4455]

This could not be better, I am just about to fit this steering to my 90 Hp 2st Merc. Thanks Stu!

[@DangarMarine]

Glad I could help!

[@matthewmoses4222]

A trick you can use for next time for cutting the helm mounting hole is to glue and screw a piece of scrap plywood onto the back of the old hole and then use a holesaw to cut the new hole.

[@DangarMarine]

Good tip Matthew, I'll give that a shot next time I'm in that situation.

[@Vool2go]

onYa Matt! I'm a Matt also!! I was going to post this comment lol

[@desmarsstephane8977]

As usual, a very good quality step by step and pedagogic video ! Vids about outboard mechanics are rare, and you show everything, without filters, mistakes and doubts too. I really appreciate ! the only thing you never reveal is what beers do you drink ! ;) Waiting for the next one... (video of course, not beer :) ) Thanks

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate. I figure anything I have doubts about other people are likely to have too. May as well get them out in the open and start the conversation. Oh, and it's Coopers. ;)

[@krisgosper4039]

Another great tutorial, helped me immensely installing Hydrive on my boat, many thanks DangarStu

[@lukestrugnell]

Thanks for the great video. My boat has Hydrive steering and recently had a problem with it turning to Port. This helped me a lot in understanding the system. Appreciate the effort to film this. Cheers!

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome mate, glad it helped you. :)

[@Kurtdog63]

I operated two different Bostonwhalers a few years back, one with a 200 hp two stroke outboard, no power steering, and the other was a 250 hp with power steering. It took both hands and spinal fusion to steer the manual, but you could steer the power steering with two fingers. The 250 hp was a four-stroke Merc Verado and the size of a refrigerator.

[@yamahafan7330]

Thank you for the detailed "how to" on this. It really helped installing my hydraulic steering as I could double check the information in the instructions and also have a visual. Keep up the good work!

[@paulward6312]

Fantastic explanation...thanks for covering all the small details. I love DYI and my son and i are about to replace the Hydraulic Steering on his 1997 Charger Bass Boat with a 1996 Mercury outboard.

[@introducingthespineswing2379]

To use a hole saw over an existing hole (if you had the correct hole saw) you can simply screw a piece of timber to the back of the material you wish to cut. In this case the existing bolt holes appear to be outside the required diameter of the hole to be cut so they would work as attachment points to screw through. Cheers Sam

[@DangarMarine]

Hey Sam, yes, a few people have mentioned that technique, it certainly sounds like the best way to go.

[@vanislandsteve]

Awesome video. Thanks so much. Tip. If you attach a scrap piece of wood behind the dash you can hole saw in the centre of the original hole. This is especially good if cutting a whole in fibreglass as it makes a clean cut on the back of the hope. Hope this makes sense 😂. 👍🏻🇨🇦

[@johnowens2392]

you are a champ my friend... I stumbled across you channel as I have a boat with hard steering.... you have given me the confidence in having a go at fixing myself.... I am kinda hoping that the helm and cable is stuffed so I can install one of these hydraulic systems...haha... thanks again mate...

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome John. :)

[@keithhenry5413]

Two words. Bubble Purge. If you do anything with hydraulic steering, this is a must have! Great videos btw!

[@grahamcarruthers9337]

I just installed a NOERL system in my Sea Breeze and this video was invaluable as the Noerl, although appears to be well made, had bugger all instructions , thanks.

[@christopherallen2812]

Hello Dangar Marine. Thank you for getting back to me. I have made the loops quite large to allow for constant flexing, so I probably would have enough to trim some off the end. The loop in the portside tube is a full 360 degrees to make it as large as possible, and the starboard side is a 180 degree loop. I am going to talk to the people at Hydrive anyway. (I just haven't got around to it yet) Thank you for your time and information. Chris Allen.

[@DangarMarine]

Hey Chris, sorry, I forgot to look at that boat. I'll definitely look this morning if anything just to refresh my own memory about how it went, and also how it is looking after six months of running.

[@seeker9257]

Great informative vid. A tip with cutting the hole. Put the 85mm hole saw on the arbour and there should be enough thread left on the arbour to screw the 65mm hole saw on as well. The 65mm saw will stick out past the 85mm saw and will act as a guide, simply put the 65mm into the original hole and start sawing. Worth spending the $20 or so on an 85mm hole saw. Hope that make sense.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate and great tip re the hole. :)

[@engravingkingek251]

Thank you for the video, it was very helpful, I watch it few time before starting installation.Helped me understand and save time and avoid any mistakes. the one difference I did I used funnel to fill up the helm was much easier and no mess. I had a helper to bleed the system and only did it once thanks to your helpful instruction otherwise I would have ignored or misread the book as usual if it wasn't for your video. Thank you again

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome, glad the video helped you. Having a helper to do the bleeding sure is the way to go! :)

[@tonyrich7011]

Had the Hydrive steering with the OMC XP 2.6. Carried Over to the 2.7L V6. Nice Aus unit, but had to change to a set of Seastar system. Nice piece but just felt like a gate valve. Nothing against the Hydrive, but it is application vs Requirement. Nice tutorial.

[@MaddieandStevesExcelAdventure]

Great vid man. Buying my COMKIT 1 tomorrow. This vid is exactly what I needed to ensure I had enough room in my splash well for the unit. Cheers.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Stephen, good luck with the install.

[@Lotusutra1]

Great show! I just bought a 1987 19' Angler boat with a mercury 115. The steering is really tough and I want to do what you did here!

[@DiegoRamirez-hx4vo]

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[@nickcadle4084]

Nick here from South Africa, another great video, please keep them coming.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Nick, will do. :)

[@jameswemple4832]

90hp out boards are absolutely miserable to drive without hydraulic steering.Always wondered how hard the install was so I watched the entire video great job and many thanks!

[@michaeljdixon1]

I like what you did to save the shift cables and your overall engine inspection ,Thanks

[@royormonde3682]

Great video as usual, just like to add that I run into drilling or cutting a hole with a hole saw or a jig saw over an existing hole all the time. What I do is drill in to a small piece of plywood first or cut with a jig then clamp that over the existing hole or screw it down, if possible, example a wood door to increase door knob hole size, then proceed with drilling or cutting into that surface. It kinda does 2 things, first makes it possible to drill without using the pilot drill and it protects the surface when using a jig saw like you did here. It also in your case will raise the jig base up to clear your other instruments as you swivel around.

[@danielholt5546]

Thanks for the video, i just purchased the same hydrive unit and this video with the instruction book will make it a lot easier to install

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome mate, good luck with the install.

[@kennedyremit615]

Very good video, educational for me. I’m greatly happy and appreciate your teaching. I’m definitely going to try hydraulic system, replacing my cable one.

[@DangarMarine]

Glad it was helpful!

[@bduff007]

Thanks for the video, just put a hydraulic steering system in a 74 Sea Ray with a Mercruiser sterndrive. You gave some good point to follow

[@TheBossManGaming731]

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[@jimc4731]

A better way to create the larger hole in the dash is with a proper size hole saw. To get over the fact that there is no pilot hole you need to make an external guide bushing. The bushing needs only be thin such as 1/4" plywood or 1/8" metal. With the hole saw cut out the proper size hole in the thin material, position that piece over the area where you want the hole in the dash. Using the mounting holes for the steering unit screw the drill jig to the dash. Drill the dash out with the hole saw being guided externally by the jig. Very easy, works every time, even when changing the center of the new hole from the center of the old. This also works with twist drills, but the jig must be substantially thicker. Hope this helps someone in the future! JIM

[@gregohare2406]

Just use the existing screw holes to mount a piece of plywood on the back side of the hole. Then find center on the plywood and you can now use the hole saw guide bit.

[@sproket168]

Bloody excellent video mate . Simple and to the point.

[@sportsmanfever402]

Wow thank's for a great video I already have taken out my old rack and pinion system broke the weekend it was always so hard to turn the motor next is to find the right hydrolic system for my boat thanks again for the great content

[@DangarMarine]

You're welcome!

[@cgberken8415]

Stu: yes, outstanding instructional video, especially your attention to detail, ( i.e. poke holes in bottom of hydraulic fluid bottle vs drilling to avoid creating particle matter, etc). Finding your video is timely in that I just re-powered my G3 175C from a Yamaha 70hp 2-stroke, to Mercury 115 ProXS 4-stroke (recent redesign from 2 to 4-stroke, hurray!) Used the same cable steering that posed no problem w/the 70. Did my 1st 2-hr break-in per manual to find with hard acceleration, almost impossible to turn to port while somewhat easier, though still difficult, to turn to starboard, as you mention/demo in the video. Difficult to justify more expense for hydraulic steering conversion at this point as I pushed the envelope to get the new motor. Doing some research I found some bloggers who discussed adjusting the rudder-like "trim tab" on the motor above the prop (referred to by some as the "torque tab") to assist in countering these forces. I checked to find that my motor has none (only a circular plate with threaded hole in the center. Would the addition of such a tab partially resolve the torque effect? Should the motor have come with such a tab? As a retired educator of 35 years, thanks for your excellent efforts!

[@DangarMarine]

Outboards generally do come with these trim tabs, but I feel they have more effect at speed then when you are first taking off. It is interesting that it is also difficult to turn to starboard as the torque steer on this motor was pushing the motor to starboard whether you wanted it to go there or not. How does it feel when the boat is still in the water?

[@whotknots]

Stu I suggest a brake master cylinder honing tool might also be adaptable to serve at cleaning the steering tube on outboards, particularly with regard to some of the more tenaciously grungy examples. A 12g shotgun cleaning kit might also adapt well to tasks such as swabbing out any residue.

[@PerrynBecky]

Very nicely done! I agree with Daniel Oskarsson. You are quite a wealth of knowledge. Thank you!

[@mrwideboy]

I flew a PA28 aeroplane once and Just after take off the plane started yawing then rolling to the right, It was quite difficult to keep it straight on the desired heading as it was always turning to starboard and then nose diving if you took your hands off the controls . I got to above 2000 feet and realised the rudder trim was widely out. It's nice to see the same types of physics involved.

[@chilliburn1]

im about to tackle this exact same install on my boat, ive watch this video twice and read the instructions 3 times....it all totally makes sence thanks to your video...your a champ.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate, good luck with the install!

[@iantyler4045]

I can attest to torque steer on a cable setup. On my old Nautiglass I actually broke my steering wheel (it was old and brittle) while wrestling with the steering under full throttle. Try getting back to the jetty with half a steering wheel! Not fun. Great video. I would now not hesitate to have a go.

[@DangarMarine]

Wow, that would have been a moment!

[@417Dobro]

Near death experience testimony re: losing "steering mechanism" at full throttle. Around 1978 I (age 18) and my buddy (age 17) had put a 25 horse outboard (No kill switch) on a 14 ft. fiberglass V-Bottom. We had success fishing for white bass on the White River here in Missouri. We were headed back to the ramp at full throttle, with me on the steering arm/throttle. For some reason that I do not now recall, I chose to switch hands on the throttle. This was an old motor (Johnson I believe) and you had to throttle it down. It would not do so on its own. When I went to switch hands the throttle bar got away from me, the motor slammed hard to the left, handle away from me, and the boat dug into a very hard right with the Starboard aft digging right into a deep well. The sudden turn threw me hard into the starboard aft corner of the boat, with my butt in the corner bottom of the boat and behind the bench seat I was sitting on only a half-second before. In that moment I glanced up at my pal, who was seated on the front bench, but who was now on his right side and holding his arms out in the wake, as the port side of the boat pitched up into the air at a 30 degree angle or so. I immediately had to strain every abdominal muscle to pull myself out of the G-Force that was keeping me in the corner. My left hand was able to grab a part of the motor, and I was then able to pull up enough to grab the throttle from behind (it was pointed away from me at this point) and throttle down. It scared us both nearly to death, and I learned a good lesson that day. It occurs to me as I write this: Rather than firmly plant my butt and body weight deep into the starboard aft bottom; had the motor chose to slam the other direction and throw me head long towards (and most likely over) the port side this story most likely have had a tragic, horrific outcome. I thank my God for His saving grace.

[@DangarMarine]

It reminds me of a similar accident I attended while working for Maritime only he hit the gunwale and broke his pelvis and ended up in the water swimming with the boat doing tight circles right near him. Very nasty, but he made it.

[@tomharrell1954]

I love hydraulic steering!!!! Adjust your tracking now! You really can tell when the tracking is off! Great job mate!!! Where is the beer! I use SeaStar across the pond but it’s the same thing!!

[@jimbernard8964]

This is fantastic. Thanks. I'm installing mine tomorrow and this was a huge help.

[@douglasthompson2740]

Actually I prefer the plywood jig in this case as it aligns the 1/4" bolt holes which are very near the inner hole. I drilled them on the drill press and used them to fasten the jig that put my big hole exactly where I needed it. You could use a thick enough piece of wood to clear your gauges with the sabre saw too although I used the hole saw. Then I used it to cut out my 1/4" aluminum backing plate for an exact copy. Take care. Doug in Alaska

[@DangarMarine]

Yes, I can see the advantage of this method, particuarly if you start with the helms mounting holes to get everything secure. The big bonus is that you don't have to buy any expensive specialist tools. :)

[@Fireship1]

I had rack and pinion steering on my old 1985 sea Ray. Docking helped my build up my muscles. My new to me 94 century has sea star hydraulic steering. I can turn the wheel with my pinky. Love it! I just wonder what would happen if it failed under way! Great video man. Very detailed!

[@DangarMarine]

Hydraulic steering certainly is a lot more user friendly. Good question about what happens if it fails. Depending on what exactly brakes I imagine you would lose all all hydraulic pressure on one of the cylinders preventing you from turning in one direction. Without back pressure I presume the motor would also flop over towards the failed side.

[@Fireship1]

+Dangar Marine thanks for responding Stu. Hopefully if a failure ever happens I can overcompensate in the opposite direction and putter back to the dock! I do love my hydraulic steering though. It makes boating much more enjoyable! I'd recommend it to every boater.

[@Whadaa72]

Yea that was huge description long is always best with installation videos. I run outboard 150 jet not much for steering drag but lots of turning all day wears you out.

[@cobravenomX1]

iv been wanting hydraulic steering as i was having the same problems, my boat has the same motor 90hp 2001 4 stroke 20 " boat. steering it was like driving a truck very hard and tiring. great vid as allways

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Peter. This boat is now a pleasure to drive with this HyDrive steering installed.

[@dustyfarmer]

If you bolted or screwed a flat piece of wood behind the old steering hole you could use a hole saw to cut the new 85mm hole as the sacrificial wood block will centre the holesaw drill bit. Holesaw's make nice round holes in metal easy, can't live without them. Wire wheels spit high speed needles into eyeballs & soft skin, eye protecting is a must when using wire wheels.

[@Ramshackle6984]

Excellent video! That looks pretty time consuming but not difficult to do. The reduction in torque steer is very impressive. All my boats have been cable steer and it is a bit annoying that it's significantly harder to steer to one side than the other, especially for people new to learning how to drive a boat.

[@DangarMarine]

It is a reasonably long job, but as you say, no single part is too hard. The results are really worth the effort though.

[@paulskinner5567]

Another great vis Stu!!! where was this vid 2 months ago, I did the exact same install on a 175 salt water series Yamaha with the same unit. I did it on my own too, defiantly easier with two people. I haven't done much with hydraulics be for, I was thinking the bleeding would be the hardest part, but bolting the cylinder to the motor tiller bracket was the most challenging stage for me, its a three handed job.

[@DangarMarine]

Shame the vid was a bit too late for you, but glad you got the install done. How does the finished product feel?

[@paulskinner5567]

Its a great product, very smooth operation and no feed back. got plenty of help from hydrive, when i emailed them they were quick with a response and were all to willing to help. highly recommend the system a great Australian product

[@brianvanzile5788]

Video helps. I'm going to tackle the job this summer, and seeing your process and notes helps for sure!

[@sicchuckie]

Great camera man and mechanic 👨‍🔧

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate!

[@brianlavigne3579]

I liked the detail about properly installing the steering arm bolt.

[@donarcher7002]

Hi Stu, easiest way to re drill the hole is to put a 85mm dia hole saw on the arbour then screw a 65mm hole saw on as your pilot.

[@WillsGarage91]

Nice install Stu! I love when a boat has hydraulic steering, so much easier to drive!

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Will, sure is better now. :)

[@versatec1]

Another fine production by mr Dangmar...cheers 😊👍

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks mate. :)

[@alaskalife8009]

My town needs someone like you. No one knows much. There solution is just buy a new one and they charge $160 an hour!

[@DangarMarine]

Wow, that's an expensive hourly rate!

[@alaskalife8009]

Dangar Marine if you can open a shop in Juneau Alaska then you can not only make a ton of money but you can bring something much needed to not only this community but also the neighboring communities. Juneau is the capital but only 30,000 people. But backbone of the entire south east Alaska is boats. Fishing, crabbing, and charters. We could use your help.

[@tonymulhall9573]

fantastic videos,wathed yours all day today,please keep them coming.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Tony, glad you liked them.

[@osbornebay944]

love this one as I am hooking up a hydraulic steering for my 23 Trophy. Thanks a million.

[@DangarMarine]

You'll love the hydraulic steering, it's a great upgrade.

[@Gmtail]

Awesome video, thank you sir.. I hate 2 strokes as well and they should be reserved for chainsaws and weedwackers.. However there are still die hard people that love them. I get that the 4 strokes are heavier and more complicated, but the positives outweigh the negatives.

[@DangarMarine]

Very soon we have a ban on selling traditional two stroke motors coming into effect. Not a minute too soon!

[@physicsguybrian]

Stu I love your work and your vids!!! Top notch! Had a thought, sitting here at 3:44am waiting for some data processing to complete. I have a hobby woodshop. Lots of ways to deal with the pesky "hole at my center mark". Here's one: If you draw a circle on your new template centered and the same size as the existing hole, then you could shine light from under the console through the hole and align the console hole with the template smaller circle. Tape it down, mark your new circle.

[@ronpowell2373]

Stu, put a nut on the bolt before you cut it , and leave the nut up high near the cut line. If you slip you only cut the nut, not destroy the bolt. Plus after deburring the end , spinning the nut off gives you a nice start point on the thread. Rethreading nuts are nice, but not many have them. I also left the tubes out in the sun for an hour to dekink them and make them easier to pull through, though in my case that wasn't much of a job. I also put tape over the open ends so they didn't pick up any junk, mainly because my boat is a much older boat with lots of loose flakey paint around.very good video again, maybe Hystar could get you to do an instruction video for them as their printed instructions are a bit confusing for novices.

[@DangarMarine]

Hey Ron. I think it would have been easier if I had left them out in the sun, they aren't the nicest hoses to work with when they are cold and straight out of the packet. Leaving the nut of the bolt definitely sounds like a better way to go. Next time!

[@cmw0911]

with a major large hole and 3 existing small holes it is much easier to push 15 - 20mm ply behind the dashboard, utilize the 3 existing small holes to hold it in place, this allows you a pilot cut and perfect positioning

[@DangarMarine]

+Chris Waddell Yes, somebody else mentioned this technique and I think it is a good one. Will definitely give it a go next time.

[@michaelquigley1411]

What the heck is aluminium? Just kidding. Great video. I think I'll give this a shot on my '02 Aquasport with a 115 Johnson. I get sooo jealous when I see people steering with one finger. You've saved me huge labor costs with your other vids (lower unit water pump, piston head coolant water seals). Cheers and keep'em coming.

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Michael. :)

[@garyfaulkner5633]

Great vid ,probably the best available on the subject , keep it up !!

[@DangarMarine]

Thanks Gary! :)

[@llewvirtue861]

Good work mate, by the way those collars are called olives, they are used on flex hose and solid like copper line

[@KKhhoorrnniittee]

Hydraulic bicycle brakes agree with you.

[@lefty940]

looks great that, i have a non feedback helm on my boat so it doesn't turn itself but it is heavy to turn that looks nice and easy to use

[@DangarMarine]

It is a really nice unit, would recommend it to anyone.