Dangerous Dogs | Should the XL Bully be banned in the UK?

[@greenandpleasant5523]

Unbelievable! This Webb woman said "Death by dogs is such a tragedy for the dogs". Her exact words. Does she not realise what a dreadful tragedy it is for the family, particularly the parents, of the children they kill?

[@yeetnama9094]

We are experiencing a dog worshipping nutter epidemic in the West.

[@SL-ud7tf]

For some owners these dogs are a status or/and a weapon.. the equivalent of carrying a knife (to scare, hurt, attack or kill).

[@wor53lg50]

Thats exactly what people will be carrying im affraid, if many breeds get banned... And that goes for law abiding citizens to...if certain breeds get banned they should make it legal to concele carry knives or tazers its that simple..this country is quickly becoming unsafe,and its been quite clear for sometime now we cant really rely on the police..FACTS..

[@ellecampbell3271]

Your country has been invaded by men who don’t think like you, speak like you, etcetera.

[@gelbsucht947]

These guys haven’t got a clue. XL Bullies are bred from fighting stock for fighting and that’s what they do. Their aggression is genetic and inherent. To suggest that you could train them not to be aggressive is like suggesting you could train a Labrador not to be interested in water or a greyhound not to chase rabbits. The people walking around with them might as well have a lion on the end of a lead. That’s how dangerous they are. The DDA 1991 has worked - it kept fatal dog attacks to a stable level of about 3 a year for the last three decades. It’s only with the emergence of the XL Bully over the last two years that fatal dog attacks and maulings have suddenly started to climb.

[@giulioreay1411]

Nah mate that's al Load of crap. I've had a XL for a couple of years now and she's good as gold coz I've trained her to be. She's even sat guarding my 3 month old baby making sure she's ok. Don't get me wrong I do muzzle her when we go for walks. But she's so play full with other dogs.and if I call her when she's off the lead she always comes back and sits by my side till I tell her she can carry on.

[@giulioreay1411]

Any dog can be dangerous no matter the breed

[@gelbsucht947]

@@giulioreay1411 you might be interested to know that XL Bullies adopted as pets can live peacefully for many years but their sudden attacks cluster around age 8-10. You can own a cuddly couchhippo for years. And one day it might kill your kids without warning. Let’s hope your three-month-old gets to adulthood, shall we?

[@gelbsucht947]

@@giulioreay1411 that’s untrue. XL Bullies make up 1% of the UK dog population but have caused 10 deaths in the last ten years, far more than any other breed. They have been bred from fighting stock to be reactive and aggressive, while gun dogs and sighthounds are bred to be gentle. Why did you get an XL Bully instead of a Labrador or a spaniel? If you’re honest, you probably know it’s because the breed is aggressive. You assume though that the dog will be considerate of you and your young child and only aggressive towards outsiders. Let’s hope no member of your family finishes up being mauled by it or you don’t end up in prison because it attacks and kills somebody else.

[@Khajiit98502]

Thank you for being the voice of reason.

[@Drankovich]

The public should be banned from owning any breed over weight & jaw/head limits. There is no way to guarantee any dog you come across is well trained, so at least if something goes wrong you'd have a fighting chance to stop it or minimise risk. And to the people who keep banging on about 'it's the owner not the dog', you are part of the problem. You're basically making excuses & ignoring the potential for great harm. 'It's not the knife it's the owner, but I should still be able to carry one in public'. Then it is 100% your fault, but dogs have a mind of their own.

[@kieran5191]

Might as well require helmets and fucking bubble wrap armour for everyone who leaves their door. You scum.

[@DextraVisual]

I was about to make the exact same point. Also, some of these dogs are as powerful as small lions and people are saying we should just stop bad owners. How the hell do we do that?

[@steveo4991]

Smooth brained take with a false equivalency sprinkled in to add extra smoothness.

[@steveo4991]

@@DextraVisualThe same way you stop bad drivers. Licensing and heavy penalties.

[@cmcm9222]

Regardless of irresponsible owners, having a dog with such capabilities for causing damage is a recipe for disaster. Any dogs over a certain size, or bite force, should need a license to own and regular forced training classes.

[@EliteRock]

The question isn't just the actual danger with these breeds but whether it's acceptable to own dogs which intimidate, if not actually frighten people with their mere presence. I heard it compared to walking around with a shotgun while assuring everyone it isn't loaded.

[@youdoneknow]

it's not though is it..I'd rather walk past a dog than a dirty raping illegal immigrant... people walking around with their eyes closed to the real dangers of society and ave to make stuff up like the bullshit you just came out with..

[@castielrocks906]

I saw a guy walking one yesterday, it was huge and literally dragging him along. What chance has he got of controlling it if it bolts or goes for a dog or person?

[@DarrenMac-yk2gd]

Then ban Rottweilers German Shepard, Doberman all English mastiffs as their larger and I’ve seen them drag people along the ground

[@tomgarrett7567]

Every chance in the world if the works put in to train it unfortunately people are stupid a lot of the time

[@kieran5191]

There are loads of dogs big enough to do that.

[@steveo4991]

The fact that it was dragging him already shows he is a shitty owner, as the vast majority of owners are. We really need licensing for dog ownership.

[@wtech758]

@@kieran5191Of course, but not all of them are equipped with innate aggression and strength

[@mrinvisible9175]

The damn things are dangerous full stop. To believe otherwise is living in denial and delusion of reality .

[@katieforsyth2089]

The wrong dog in the wrong hands will inevitably end in disaster

[@stequality]

Isn't there worse things to ban than a certain dog ? We know the real reasons the streets ain't safe don't we?

[@msmrepo3271]

Well said

[@katrina4366]

Not sure what your point is. “We shouldn’t ban this dangerous thing because there are worse dangerous things out there”. ???????? It’s not like they have to pick one and only one thing to ban.

[@DarrenMac-yk2gd]

They’ll say ban the dogs that family’s own but they give promotion and propaganda of immigrant and gang culture the ones who actually have the dogs badly brought up

[@CeltishGod]

ban foreigners.

[@trevcam6892]

​@@DarrenMac-yk2gd Nothing to do with immigrants. Where did you get that idea from. These dogs are bred to attack and kill. Might as well have a river on a leash.

[@channelI748]

It's an American Pitbull cross - This is exploiting a loophole in the law. You really think you can rely on the owners to put in the extra effort??? Why take that risk ???

[@cavendish009]

YES absolutely. If people cannot control these dogs if they own one then they should be banned.

[@jrobs1133]

What if they can control them?

[@kieran5191]

@@jrobs1133he doesn’t care about that he’s a authoritarian piece of excrement. If he doesn’t like something or can’t have something no one should have it. Make no mistake he is the kind of person who would Waterboard you in North Korea.

[@fUNNY-do6rb]

you dont know if they can control them, whos stronger a bloke or this monster of a dog@@jrobs1133

[@jamesmccallum6770]

It's irrelevant whether it's the owner or the dog. The actions that are required will be the same regardless. We aren't trying to punish the owner of a potentially violent dog, we are looking to prevent the ripping off of a child's face!!!

[@J.Jonah.Jameson.]

Rather than the dog being put down and the owner being fined, I'd love it if the owner was put down and the dog was rehabilitated.

[@Mason-626]

​@@J.Jonah.Jameson.that's so retarded just put both of them down , would you buy a rehabilitated xl bully that killed a child , if you buy a dog that's from a breed that is quick to aggression and can kill you then its not just your fault its the dogs fault to

[@BoabMarley]

Or attacking those lovely people that will be allowed to force entry to your home to install an unwanted smart meter.

[@brucemedley635]

A woman has been killed by two rottweilers today are you going to ban rottweilers

[@Trav-eller]

This breed should defo be banned. Some of them are huge. Whenever you see one, nobody wants to be on the same pavement or anywhere near it. Not really fair that the dog gets the priority of a whole street.

[@kieran5191]

That’s such a dumb reason to ban something. You’re scared of them because you’re a pum that’s not a reason to ban something.

[@Trav-eller]

@kieran5191 Really? Is Affray a "Dumb" law? What is the difference? If people who refer to people as "Pum" own these minotaur type of dogs, then we are all in trouble. Maybe you are the big bad wolf.

[@kieran5191]

@@Trav-eller affray has nothing to do with fear you’re referring to public order offences and yeah it’s dumb.

[@fUNNY-do6rb]

were scared of them because they could literally kill you, 99/100 Im sure they would not disturb you when walking past but even that 1/100 time they do something can be seriuos and fatal@@kieran5191

[@jujutrini8412]

Make them have muzzles when they go out.

[@teoleno4019]

Who is enforcing it?

[@seandelap8587]

Its up to the owners to keep their dogs under control simple as

[@WhoTube277]

Yeah, but when they CAN'T control them or LOSE control of them, others suffer. These breeds are genetically predisposed to be violent. They must be banned.

[@drd6416]

Never a bad dog by choice. Dog are pack animals, they follow the leader. So if theyre mistreated enough, just like a human...something will give....and thats where you get a problem.

[@ben31uk]

Dogs are not to blame Bad owners are

[@cassandrade-wolfe6926]

Correct Ben.

[@Drankovich]

There it is, the normy response.🙄 They are to blame as well as the owner. Not in the legal sense, but by innate nature.

[@jrobs1133]

@@Drankovich There it is; the normy response to a normy response.

[@kieran5191]

@@Drankovichthe normie response is to nosh off the government whenever they want to ban something, it’s people like you that mean we aren’t allowed to defend ourselves properly in this country and have zero power.

[@fUNNY-do6rb]

were not saying its the dogs fault but either way they should be banned

[@danbrownrg6633]

No it shouldn't be , the person who has the dog should be banned 💯 or bring in a dog licence 👍

[@louiseosaur]

Couldn't agree more with this Dog behaviourist. People often get pets without thinking it through. Finding a dog that fits your temperament is so important.

[@Fummy007]

Its more important to find a dog that doesnt frequenty kill and maim people. Whether it fits "you" is irrelevant.

[@darreljoseph2085]

❤

[@nimzgaz7049]

It’s a dangerous dog. They suddenly can attack anyone

[@Oakleaf700]

Sad inadequates are drawn to pits and XL bullies like flies are drawn to sh*t.

[@renegade-master29]

Certain type of dog breeds speak volumes on the owners mental capacity

[@Chunkychops514]

Exactly and that combination is terrifying

[@Hesgoneandwrittenitdown]

As a general rule as the size and aggression of the dog increases the IQ of the owner decreases.

[@youdoneknow]

I own an XL BULLY and have an IQ of 136... Stating that owning a specific breed of dog reflects mental capacity is just ridiculous.

[@Hesgoneandwrittenitdown]

@@youdoneknow I only said as a general rule. You must be special!

[@brucewayne7838]

they should be banned in my opinion. there are hundreds of breeds of dogs and these are one of the few that have killed or seriously injured humans. after all you cant walk down the road in public with a lion or tiger on a leash.

[@patstercamps7012]

Yes ban them we really dont need the breed and there are so many thick people in the UK who try to get their hands on them without knowing a thing about the breed.

[@kieran5191]

Just ban anything YOU don’t like. What a mug.

[@patstercamps7012]

@@kieran5191 no mug, i like all dogs but there are just some breeds that we really dont need. Its a shame we cant just ban the thick, irresponsible owners.

[@kieran5191]

@@patstercamps7012 you don’t like all dogs because you are fine with executing a whole bunch of them based on appearance.

[@patstercamps7012]

@@kieran5191 not execute just phase them out

[@kieran5191]

@@patstercamps7012 if you ban them many of them will be executed as they can’t be rehomed when someone dies or can’t afford them.

[@Guitar387]

I think owning an XL bully is like owning a loaded gun , how many owners are capable of being responsible gun owners , my answer is not enough people.

[@yeetnama9094]

No, its not like a loaded gun. A loaded gun isnt a thinking breathing sentient creature. A shitbull *IS*

[@TheLightningeater]

I have an XL and she is as soft as mud, it just takes training. I see plenty of owners with small dogs that don't train them and let them misbehave. Maybe introduce licence requirements to all dog owners. That would get rid of a lot of lazy dog owners.

[@MundaneBrain]

Ban this dog immediately. Also, people who walk with stupid grins on the street with barely controllable trophy dogs causing kids to get scared and have the wherewithal to say: "don't wurry mate....he's 'armless" while still grinning should have a distinct criminal charge brought against them.

[@geraldstiling3735]

Watch kingdom bully kennels. 🐶🐾. Here in the UK I Have fostered XL Bullys, French mastif, Staffordshire bull terrier. Never had any trouble with any of them ever♥️

[@kieran5191]

Don’t even own one but have been round a few a lot they are basically just big staffs. Never had any issues or felt like they had violence in them. People need to get a grip and mind their own business. If they are that worried they should be fighting for the right to carry bear spray because that would stop 99% of dog attacks in their tracks.

[@Drea-lt6xh]

Yes

[@stemarchington67]

We are failing mans best friend.

[@Wast3dlif3]

For some people *man's only friend*

[@wor53lg50]

Indeed and that applies to me, why this pisses me off so much, ban crazy wokeness or dangerous idealogy's attactched to certain religions, not the only thing that makes me want to wake up every morning and keep me sane, how dare these bastards, people seem today that the onlything they want to do is make some feckers lives more miserable its absolutely disgusting, and you can bet your life its all our new guests and our own countries gen z lefty leaning leibour sell outs who are championing this...

[@chiarabay9364]

Ban them! 9 and a half stone of unpredictable muscle. No one needs this dog. No one.

[@JosephB-tv7gf]

Nothing will be done. These dogs will do as they please ("he never bit anyone before!") and continue to kill people.

[@morganthomas884]

If xl bullies are banned they’ll come a new breed in a year that’ll be banned as well and in the end no one will be able to own any dogs.

[@wor53lg50]

Thats the problem, and the trouble is the gen z clueless generation and anti trmp yanks in comments who should mind their own feckers in this? they think or have the need to want to identify this channel as far right and so think only far right people must own them?? , the reason they are saying yes ban them without even thinking of the bigger picture, its our young generations that has the rot not the bloody dogs... They dont give two shits if things suffer through their political ideologies, not even if it effects one of their family members or members friends through it either due to their short sightedness? And in using their gobs before that little bit of brain matter they do have left???....they bang on about fachist this far right that, but absolutely to bloody thick and stupid to know and realise who the last person was who banned certain people from having dogs???, the same as it would be from banning certain dogs from people?? ...i mean its hypocrisy at its finest, and they either have no shame or morals with is sad and and scary, or they really are that thick and brainwashed, hence the education system needs to be held responsible and those who sit at the top then heads should roll?, its that simple, the ethics of this country is going down fast, allmost on a daily basis, theres no love in the community as nobody knows each other or not compatible and simply dont trust, its the breakdown of the system caused by this?..

[@wor53lg50]

@@Yulin411 and all immigration..

[@matthewlovesbritney]

Yes hopefully it’s banned🙏🙏

[@shanerosser]

No. How about jailing any owner who owns a dangerous dog who think that they can attack their own children inside or outside their own homes?

[@CG-zi5ku]

That dog behaviourist said deaths by dogs is 'such a tragedy for the DOG'' just sums up thier attitude - they put dogs above humans.

[@wgj4813]

Just because a breed of dog is introduced to this country does not mean it escapes the banned dogs laws. Is there no assessment process that can reasonably determine the criteria for a dog breed banning order.

[@paulAnthony7236]

Actually a companion breed not bred for fighting or otherwise and it's ignorant to say every dog of this breed is dangerous.

[@ChocolateMilk..]

All dogs of this breed is dangerous and not suitable in Urban areas. They were bred for hundred of years to fight until death.

[@neilfields5914]

Not the dogs, the owners should be vetted, I wouldn’t sell a Yorkshire terrier to some people

[@DextraVisual]

True, but if a Yorkshire Terrier went on a killing spree it might knock over yer wellies or pull a button off your sleeve. But an XL bully? It's basically a small lion.

[@ellecampbell3271]

Britain needs more serious dogs in every town and city. Bring in the wolfhounds!

[@herberthall8082]

Any dog that bites a person should be killed and the owner jailed for 6 months.

[@kieran5191]

Look at you cosplaying as emperor because you have no real world power. Cute.

[@Candie2024]

@kieran5191 grow up - why should the rest of us have to fear for our and our pets/families lives so you small brained men can go round thinking your bad with your trophy dogs? Get a normal dog, ffs 🤦‍♀️

[@DeeCee-nb6ev]

If the dog has a destruction order applied to it then so should the owner

[@danneedstogo9166]

Everyone is saying 'its not the dog, it's the owner'. So, ban the owners who like this breed of dogs?

[@brucewayne7838]

it is both

[@teslaandhumanity7383]

My grandson age 6 was attacked by one and went to hospital, 2 weeks later back in hospital with Staph infection. Carry a knife 🔪 please I beg you all . The dog was reported by the police before . Now have to wait for court . The woman who owns the dog said she fears for her kids but her partner wants the dog , can you believe this couple .

[@realtalk4329]

Ban immediately

[@dejayne8246]

I'm sorry but if a dog bites unprovoked it should be destroyed. I don't care if it's a small dog or a big one. Humans are fast more important than dogs! I shouldn't need to cross the street for a dog!

[@3rah356]

Please end these dangerous dogs in public .

[@deedeedoes818]

This dog is a lethal weapon on a leash

[@paulAnthony7236]

Any dog can be and that's ignorant for you say that and shows you have no clue about the breed.

[@michaelegan6037]

Bit like you rape kids murders people go prison I am OK for parole OK your free nob

[@fUNNY-do6rb]

most dogs cannot do what the bully could do@@paulAnthony7236

[@DarrenMac-yk2gd]

So are labradors look up their bite statistics, German Rottweilers and Belgium Malnois far more dangerous to people

[@WhoTube277]

They're worse. A weapon is an inanimate object fully controlled by a person. A dog isn't and can decide to whatever it wants, including turning on its owner.

[@raycook6952]

I see more and more of these dogs when I'm out and about and everyone up to this point have been gentle giants of course there's always exceptions but the fact is it ain't the dog's you should ban it's certain owners you should ban from owning dog's in the first place

[@john.highheels.3244]

Imagine a back garden with little children playing and then your neighbour brings round one of these animals to play in the same garden. Ever heard that joke ? What's the difference between a rottweiler and the social services? You can get your child back from the social services!

[@kieran5191]

In that case grow a set of balls and tell them not to bring it around, don’t see why something should legally be banned because you cross your legs to fucking tinkle.

[@superbeads1]

or you can watch your child around the dog and not leave your child on its own with it?

[@john.highheels.3244]

@@superbeads1 That's just it though, people these days don't do this. It's all aww he's a nice dog, you're ok he's safe with children and the next thing barking and screams are heard from the back garden.

[@superbeads1]

@@john.highheels.3244 so you would leave a child in a garden with a big dog because someone said the dog was safe? Would you leave them in the garden with a jack Russell or a smaller dog?

[@MundaneBrain]

​@superbeads1 or you can ban dogs that are capable of overpowering most adults and have a proven track record of locking their jaws around kids faces. Just ban them. What is your actual problem with that? We ban excessively dangerous and unpredictable things and items, both animate and inanimate, all the time in the civilised world. Can I walk a lion down the street as long as I have it on a leash or I pwomise evwyone that it's weally fwiendly.

[@myrants5836]

A typical comment, usually from dog owners is. "It's not the dogs it's the owners". This is absolute utter rubbish. The fact is these are incredibly powerful, aggressive and dangerous dogs and the general public should not be allowed to own them. The other breed that needs banning is the Belgium Malinois. Another trendy dog that is highly dangerous if not handled by highly experienced dog handlers. Which most of the public are not! It's time for a tough line on dog ownership.

[@kieran5191]

They aren’t aggressive at all, you’ve probably never even been in a house with one. No doubt some 50 year old washed up wasteman and hypocrite who just spouts off without thinking.

[@louiseosaur]

Dogs have gentle souls. Ever heard the saying : Don't judge a Book by it's cover.

[@myrants5836]

@@louiseosaur That's an absolute load of rubbish. Not all dogs have gentle souls. I was attacked by a German Shepherd when I was a child. I then get attacked by a Lurcher as an adult. Both were totally unprovoked. So don't tell me dogs have gentle souls as this is totally untrue.

[@louiseosaur]

@@myrants5836 Sorry to hear that. I'd be curious to know the circumstances around these attacks. Hold the owners accountable not the Dogs. Banning whole breeds for a small % of incidents is ridiculous. It's not the solution. *Don't believe everything the media tells us without the full picture.

[@youdoneknow]

it seems like dogs don't like you very much, with the way you speak on here I'm sure a lot of humans don't either...

[@chriswheeler9639]

Literally met one the other week and he was one of the nicest, calmest dogs i've ever met.

[@mrinvisible9175]

Week after that it bit a childs head off but its ok as it was nice to you .... they are dangerous full stop.

[@chriswheeler9639]

@@mrinvisible9175 you realise its the owners training that causes things like this, don't tar every dog the same. Just had a look online and can see nothing about someones head being bitten off so that instantly makes what you have to say null and void

[@mrinvisible9175]

@@chriswheeler9639 The breed is dangerous regardless of training , to deny this is pure delusion and denial of factual evidence. Only this morning on the BBC news you had a dog behaviourist specialist ..." a dog lover " and a" dog expert " ... ... stating that the breed is inherently prone to being aggressive . How many more children have to be injured or worse killed for people to finally grasp reality that some animals are dangerous regardless of the owners input. You cant ...train it out ...no more than you can train out the aggression of a wolf its within their nature . Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.

[@philmccracken179]

I met OJ Simpson in the early 90’s. He was smoking a joint with some guys behind a bar. He was literally the nicest and most calm dude ever😐

[@chriswheeler9639]

@@philmccracken179 because comparing dogs to humans is the same 🙄🤦

[@anonanon17]

Ban XL bullies.

[@DarrenMac-yk2gd]

Ban ignorant people like you I wouldn’t give you dog food targeting innocent animals and loved members of peoples family’s that are these dogs

[@woden20]

They don't want you to defend yourselves. We need limits in place or your whole life will be just existing by eating bugs. Too many rules.

[@bigceazer]

Dog lover here and it's not the dog it's the owner. I love XL bullies. Beautiful dogs.

[@BristolMatt]

Nah, these dogs are horrible to walk past. Humans shouldn't have to put up with these beasts.

[@cassandrade-wolfe6926]

​@@BristolMatt There's an XL Bully somewhere saying the same thing about you.

[@jrobs1133]

@@BristolMatt Man up, mate

[@bigceazer]

@@cassandrade-wolfe6926 lol, exactly. people are so quick to condemn the dogs rather than the owners.

[@cassandrade-wolfe6926]

@@bigceazer Looks like he'd be scared of my Auntie Barbara's poodle. 🤭

[@iainrae6159]

Blimey! Another poor chap died yesterday from this beast jaws, and thousands in hospital from attacks by dogs. If I hear another 'doggie' apologist,usually a woman defending the hounds I'll bite my lead off.

[@sammysquib1982]

I'm sorry these dogs are capable of killing adults. In the wrong hands they are lethal. Yes all dogs can be aggressive, yes bad owners contribute, but we can't let them keep killing because they are capable of doing so in the wrong hands (which you cannot legislate against specifically). I want killer dogs off the streets, I don't want to be fearful of open spaces with my kids and I frequently see dog owners stop their big dogs and tighten the leash around kids. That shows me they know that potential to attack and kill and it is irresponsible to take them out around kids. Get another dog.

[@EwanMiller-q9d]

Should the dangerous “people “ coming from middle East to the UK be banned ? That’s more worrying to be honest

[@terrysmith5168]

Absolutely pointless banning breeds it doesn't work . The real pitbull terrier become more popular in the early to mid 90s when the ban was made as the breed was deemed even more prestigious and worthy to the type of owner it tends to attract .and even if you could stop the bully breed from existing ( which you couldn't ) the irresponsible owners will simply move on to other equally potentially dangerous breeds out there the list is endless

[@DarrenMac-yk2gd]

We’ll literally create the same thing under a different name and create a new breed the exact same trust me

[@yahi3595]

Is all about how you raise them.

[@WhoTube277]

No it clearly fucking isn't. That's not how breeding ANYTHING works.

[@jimpickens4067]

Hahaha did he seriously just say different species of Dog? All domestic Dogs belong to just one single species silly man... There are however different breeds within that species

[@zawarudo9444]

Stupid arguments, Ban the dog and the would be owner will just buy the next scariest looking dog.

[@alanthecat59]

Ban

[@hellfire4337]

Ban the owner, not the dog.

[@johnpearson6780]

Yes they should be banned, people who have these dogs are obviously irresponsible and have them for a reason... to look hard, to scare and intimidate, idiots.

[@stemarchington67]

Licensed Breeding ❤

[@steveo4991]

And ownership.

[@steveo4991]

@@Yulin411 Well, licensed breeders tend to care about who they sell dogs to. Their reputation depends on it.

[@stemarchington67]

@@Yulin411 No but it would be a good way to keep track of what kind of people are owning them? Licensed Breeding has to be done for the good of the Animal not the human.

[@eyemallears2647]

The panel should know a bit more about the topic…… 10 banned breeds??? Try FOUR. I breed staffies. Best breed with kids, though they can be a handful.

[@fredcarson2791]

Yes.

[@chiarabay9364]

Our miniature dachshund bit the postman and we got a letter from Royal Mail saying that under the dangerous dogs act they would no longer deliver Mail through the door and we had to get a Mail box on the gate. A dog that size of the XL bully would have killed the postie.

[@steveo4991]

In your hands, yes. Learn to train your dog properly.

[@antarriahartley6865]

Yeah that’s your fault small dogs bite more then big dogs and xl bully looks scary would probably lick the postman your untrained dog bit him

[@chiarabay9364]

@@antarriahartley6865 Did you learn to read and write ever?

[@robinmcewan8473]

Yes, ban it. Ban all dogs that are bred as fighting dogs and ban all dogs that are not bred by responsible breeders.

[@jamesmccallum6770]

Although you all agree that there are bad owners out there (as there will continue to be), you all would not promote the legislation that could control it.

[@emilysweet9082]

That first dog has such sad eyes.

[@kimholland9316]

Too risky. Ban the dogs

[@nimzgaz7049]

That dog is dangerous. My friend had one and was well trained but one day thing went pretty bad in the park and it attacked a women for no reason. That dog should be banned.

[@Scitch-et4vk]

Yep ban them !

[@DarrenMac-yk2gd]

Nah then you have to ban all dogs ?

[@tashaax1993xanimalloverx]

Thing is i find the whole "new owners shouldnt get certain breeds if they havent had one before or experienced" but people have to start somewhere...ie experienced people wasnt experienced until they got the breed and became experienced...i think it comes down to getting a dog that fits well into your life and u are willing to put the time and effort intp training that goes for any dog

[@davidchester429]

I have a dog that many people consider a scary dog. Honestly it's ridiculous. People are either scared out of their wits or approach with no common sense at all. Dogs dont just attack people. Theres either something wrong with the dog health wise, it's being mistreated or it's provoked. 9/10 dog attacks will be one of those situations. My dog is nervous but i as a responsible dog owner i adapt her surroundings to not put her in a situation she can't deal with. People need to take responsibility for their animals

[@kn3448]

Let me give you a little anecdote. Years ago I lived in a close where one of my neighbours had a Rottweiler bitch. She was the soppiest creature on the face of the planet, loved people, loved kids, loved other dogs. The guy could walk her anywhere without a lead and control her in any given situation. One morning I woke up to find the close littered with emergency services vehicles. I asked another neighbour what had happened. Turns out that over night, the dog had killed her owner, his wife and one of their two young children. Nobody could offer an explanation. The close in which we lived was peaceful and free of criminal activity, only getting somewhat rowdy on new years eve. Some dogs are bred to guard, some are bred to fight and kill. Through thousands of years of breeding and instinctual manipulation, these animals have it within them to kill on the turn of a die, no matter how well behaved they appear to be. Dogs like this should not be kept as pets because no matter how much control an owner thinks they wield over such an animal it's instinct will win out every time. These dogs should be banned. Simple as.

[@fredcarson2791]

Some dogs are bred to be vicious.

[@louiseosaur]

I agree. I am a huge Dog lover but still I never go up to Dogs I don't know. Dogs in no way frighten me but boundaries should always be respected.

[@davidchester429]

@@kn3448 what an absolute load of tosh. There are something like 12 million dogs in the country and just under 2% are rottweilers. So for your anecdotal story in which a dog just turns for no reason whatsoever we shall somehow believe,you think near enough 200,000 dogs should be "banned" which essentially means put to sleep or killed for no reason. If for whatever stupid reason this somehow becomes law, please can I ask one favour? You sign up to do it. You go and take dogs away from their families. You put them to sleep. I've had to do it twice now and it's horrible. To think to do that to 200,000 dogs because of your one story is insane at best

[@davidchester429]

@@fredcarson2791 rottweilers were bred to herd cows. They were also known as nanny dogs in Germany as people used to leave them guarding children. I don't for one second think that is a good idea with any breed of dog but in the main, if raised correctly, rottweilers have a very stoic, tolerant demeanour and are loyal to their family. People like the guy above who say they should be banned generally have some made up story or have had very little interaction with them. They are also usually in my experience the first people who have no issues with letting their kids impact negatively on other people's lives

[@lalaloopzmacstar658]

I have a pocket bully. My friend has a XL Bully. Both are great natured family pets. The dog s who are turning and attacking people are the ones who are not being raised or trained properly!

[@jamsams]

"Great natured family pets" which is exactly what the owners of the dogs who have attacked used to say. You're an idiot if you deny their increased risk of turning suddenly. Aggression is in their very nature, it's what they are bred for. You are yet another example of stupidity and ignorance. Let's hope their aren't children about when they decide to have "that" moment.

[@shanerosser]

Let's ban owners who gets a dangerous dog altogether.

[@Olbol288]

Yes absolutely

[@shayneruck4893]

How can a politician who couldn't even keep rubber boots out of our Waters on suddenly decide what type of dog people should keep

[@tchkaia]

As a bare minimum, problem dogs like this should be muzzled in public.

[@3rah356]

🌶️🌶️🌶️ May be in public everyone should carry with them . Said by an experienced person. 👇 "As a side note, Pepper Spray is very effective against highly aggressive dog breeds such as Pit-bulls. I had the unfortunate need to spray a Pit-bull attacking my cattle-dog a few months ago. The Pit immediately stopped it's attack and ran around the entire school yard rubbing it's face in the grass."

[@Candie2024]

Where can we buy it? There are two of these XL bullies where I live and one is very aggressive whenever it sees my dog and she is scared backing into wall. I’m frightened to death whenever I take my Labrador out because if it attacked her I know I definitely couldn’t get it off her.

[@willyhwang1059]

be mindful to not only ban xl pocket, standard, etc.

[@robsadler3311]

Im a dog fan and have a 55kg presa canario and the only breed i don't trust out on my walks are the bullys mostly because they are way too powerful for most of thier owners

[@DarrenMac-yk2gd]

Sounds like something Nazi’s would do

[@kieran5191]

The nationals socialists loves animals, unlike these stiff, selfish freaks.

[@poacherZ400]

People only got a dog in covid cos they where alowd out with a dog. There are plenty of covid dogs that are not trained.

[@brolaire4117]

It’s all about how they’re raised, maybe we should be having a closer look at society itself. Should we just start getting rid of dangerous humans?

[@mrinvisible9175]

Yes we should get rid of dangerous humans. There you go. Seriously though the breed ....is .... naturally aggressive if you dont agree you are simply living in delusion.

[@michellej1372]

Sure owners are ultimately responsible however some dogs have been bred for their aggression and fighting.

[@maxine4898]

NO, IT IS NOT ALWAYS THE OWNERS FAULT THAT THEY ATTACK !!!

[@superbeads1]

So we ban the dog??? However its completely acceptable for a Jack Russell to attack my dog and be brushed off because its a smaller breed, but because this is a big dog we must get rid of them. Honestly no such thing as a bad dog just bad owners.

[@pauliepaul3697]

Rubbish I've had lots of dogs all been treated the same, some were arse holes some were good it's the same with children!

[@sparkyroots369]

Reintroduce licences for certain breeds.

[@lemmy6782]

Why the fk would u want a dog that big in your home .the most placid of dogs can turn for no reason just like people.

[@macentertainment8134]

bullies are amazing dogs. Unfortunately people buy them as a status symbol and any idiot can breed dogs. Banning will do nothing proper education and a breeding license is what's needed

[@teslaandhumanity7383]

It’s both it’s the dog and the owner who’s male and insecure, probably sells drugs and wants protection .

[@menzokruizinga]

Stop blaming the dog its always the owners because people are stupid

[@leetobin3245]

People who want a mastiff type dog/ bully type should have them muzzled when out in public , also they should attend special handling sessions

[@inout3513]

Ballax....its not the breed i have 6 of them and they are all gentle and like big lap dogs. None of tgem would even hurt a fly....years ago i had 1 pomeranian and a jack Russell and they wer both viscous and would bite within a blink of an eye

[@giulioreay1411]

Totally agree.

[@BillyJo44]

I've had 4 XL Bullies, all soft ,wouldn't hurt a fly

[@drewmatthew42]

Don't ever ban dogs! Have a list of agreed dogs, and then Don't allow people to keep any others!

[@drewmatthew42]

Just to be clear some dogs have been bread to kill. They have been engineered to attack bulls etc. Would anyone be happy with a tiger walking around; would you blame the owner if it attacked someone?

[@terrysmith5168]

@@drewmatthew42 Tiny little terrier's have been bred to kill , do we ban them also ?

[@drewmatthew42]

@@terrysmith5168 no

[@drewmatthew42]

@@terrysmith5168 Labs bite people, as do Terriers, they just don't have the capacity to tear a person's face off. I have seen a pitbull attack another dog; they go in to kill and rip them to shreds

[@drewmatthew42]

@@terrysmith5168 the problem, as far as I am aware, is that they know which breeds are dangerous, but as they ban one, they mix the breed with another dog. New dog, same traits.