Dangerous training method in "Iron Palm" 【Kung-fu, Tamotsu Miyahira 】

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@125歳の証明 4 жыл бұрын

宮平氏のこわもて系じゃない雰囲気と、ワザの超えげつなさのアンバランスさがすごく面白いです。

@mortgagefinancing5558 3 ай бұрын

These techniques wont work in a real fight..its typical. In a real fight he would have to deal with body mass and the opponent fighting back.

@mieuxzmieuxz 3 жыл бұрын

「鍛えておけば思い切り打てる」本当にとその通りだと思います。当方♂ですが、背後からの両手タックルから押し倒されてレイプされそうになりましたが、あの時だけは「迷いなく人を蹴る練習をしていたお陰で難を逃れられた」と感じ、師と武道の教えに感謝したものです。力ない女性ならばもっと怖かったことでしょう。危難に急所を狙えるのは胆力ではなく、積み重ねた練習量だと思います。

@lobotomy4282 5 жыл бұрын

宮平先生「彼は打たれ強い！」弟子「痛いです・・・我慢強いだけ」ワロタ

@扇をいただく 5 жыл бұрын

10:10 あたりに宮平師武術が表れていると思う。地味だけど確実に仕留めるのを狙う。鼻にあたるのを当然意識して挿し込む。接近戦で触れた時に確実に喉をえぐる。良くも悪くも格闘技とは別世界の考え方。

@エムじゅうろく 5 жыл бұрын

以前は格闘技の人たちと武術の人たちが戦ってるのを見たいと思ってましたが、目的自体が違うのだから今はそれぞれの方向で発展してほしいと思ってる。

@user-Re-man-Ise369 4 жыл бұрын

宮平先生は有事の際は躊躇しなさそうで震える

@薄い声 5 жыл бұрын

武術が殺傷を前提としていた雰囲気がいやがうえにも伝わります!!!!

@lianpetapeta1163 4 жыл бұрын

これはどの部位を打つとかだけでなく、練功されてきた先生の肉体レベルあっての技術ですね

@nkzw 5 жыл бұрын

本当にスゴい人ほど心身ともに余計な力が入ってない、ということが良く伝わってきます。

@mortgagefinancing5558 3 ай бұрын

Silly nonsense...anyone that believes this kind of fighting lives in a fantasy world and has never been in a fight with a real fighter. These techniques wont work in a real fight..its typical. In a real fight he would have to deal with body mass and the opponent fighting back.

@manachansuper 5 жыл бұрын

護身法になるんだろうけど、使い手によっては凶器になりえる凄い拳法なんだね　動画を見て改めて危険性を感じました

@chocolatesweet8015 3 жыл бұрын

全く武術の知識も経験もないけど惹き込まれる何かがあります。先生の人柄立ち振る舞いにいつの間にか引き込まれてる自分がいる…

@user-yoshikun2 3 ай бұрын

わかる気がします…

@mukogawa 5 жыл бұрын

宮平保さんの動画はいつもおもしろい & かっくいい。武術やってみよーかな

@七三分け-g6v 5 жыл бұрын

危ない攻撃のやり方説明してるときに、めちゃ楽しそうってヤバいよね。でも優しそうだからな宮平さん

@blockmasterscott 5 жыл бұрын

A very common misconception is that Iron Palm training is used mainly to toughen the hands. While the hands do become more conditioned, and that is important, another reason for Iron Palm training is to get you used to using your entire body behind each strike, practicing staying rooted while you strike, and focusing your entire body behind each strike. And it helps you to become better at controlling your breathing. Kinda like a master carpenter being able to drive a nail into a board with one strike after doing it for a long time.

@ekku1979 2 жыл бұрын

That's an excellent description!

@brahmoone Жыл бұрын

as a carpenter sometimes these also results in an extra fart out

@mapasdoacaso Жыл бұрын

Ótima comparação, muito bom!

@vitamintarou09 5 жыл бұрын

動画見て思うのは技云々よりも色んな意味で宮平先生そのものが怖いんだけどｗ

@フルフルコース1190 4 жыл бұрын

一番最初に監督さんにバシーンとやった門弟の人もめちゃ強そう!

@アシタノ極み 5 жыл бұрын

宮平先生の技は冗談抜きで、殺傷能力が高い。。

@channel-hf4uu 5 жыл бұрын

肩の力を抜いて叩くってまんま打楽器の奏法でびっくりした

@lucal2153 5 жыл бұрын

0:30 めっちゃびびっとる

@backfist-cp3nx 5 жыл бұрын

みんなにこにこ、でもなぜか残酷さが伝わるww

@コウテイ-e1x 3 жыл бұрын

鉄砂掌の秘薬は鍛錬の前後に使って、擦り込むマッサージも大切と学んだ。当時は秘薬の成分も日本には入荷不許可で誤った鍛錬は腕が腫れ上がり心臓を病み死すると教わった。なので、鉄砂掌の鍛錬を軽々と紹介していたので驚きです。

@mortgagefinancing5558 3 ай бұрын

@gonza921 5 жыл бұрын

「えぇ、ダメだと思います」

@mickeyfunTV 4 жыл бұрын

一つに絞って常に鍛錬すれば、それは誰にも破れぬ。一つに絞っての鍛錬が如何に難しいか。

@人生楽しもうぜ 5 жыл бұрын

ほんと、監督の悲鳴草八極拳の時といい、もっと悲鳴を聞きたい

@user-xh3ld3wx4s 5 жыл бұрын

宮平先生のこのコーナー！なんだか、すごい知識、技術詰まっている気がします！ひょっとして暗打って言われるものの紹介入ってますか？素晴らしいと思います！目つきの技術では、単指でなく全体目を打つ、空手のバラ手という技術があったような気もします！すごく勉強になり、マーシャルアーツの奥深さ、危険さ、そしてそれを扱う人間について考えさせて頂けて、やはり中国拳法の真面目な修行者先生方、皆素晴らしいと思います。人間もっと成長できるように自分も修行大切だなと思いました！

@mortgagefinancing5558 3 ай бұрын

@看板をばりっ 5 жыл бұрын

中国拳法やってる人たちは細いイメージあるけど、この道場の人たちはごついね

@room6053 5 жыл бұрын

サムネがカッコよすぎーーーーーーーーーーー

@白滝次郎 4 жыл бұрын

文字通り、砂鉄の袋で鍛えるんですねえ。じいさまが教えてくれたのは、緑豆になんか漢方薬仕込んだ袋だった。洗薬のスプレーなんてあったんですねえ、中国武術界の進歩は現役なのですね。

@zettohibiki9710 5 жыл бұрын

思わず本棚にある龍清剛の「秘伝必殺　鉄砂掌」を見た。同じ流派・・・・なわきゃないよね；

@honehone5471 5 жыл бұрын

私も昔手に入れました。実家に有ります。何故か西郷輝彦さんが練習してる写真が載ってた気がします。

@DX-yr5hj 4 жыл бұрын

我慢強い人の汎用性よwww

@crystalbob4951 5 жыл бұрын

虽然听不懂日文，但是据我所知，在中国有些大师是不建议练铁砂掌的，因为如果消肿的药方配置不得当，很容易把手给打肿，这样在和别人干架的时候一下子就让对手知道你练过铁砂掌了

@sawayaka_sawaday 4 жыл бұрын

ポップな紹介の奥に潜む闇

@jin115xx 5 жыл бұрын

懐かしいなこれ、ワイも若い頃は練習したもんだわー

@もるとん-i6z 5 жыл бұрын

ものほんでくさ

@user-me1ps9zc7e 4 жыл бұрын

本物かよww

@アウトドアインドア-b6p 3 жыл бұрын

(*´･ω･)僕はいたくてしばらくやってない

@medakazoku 4 жыл бұрын

宮平先生の真面目顔でえぐる😅

@sportsman4000 5 жыл бұрын

よく見かける「実戦では役に立たない」コメ。その実戦って組手やスパーリングや競技だとMMAあたりのことを指してるとすると、そもそも組手やMMAが「実戦」なのかということを議論しないといけないと思う。

@nkzw 5 жыл бұрын

スポーツマンらしからぬ武術家っぽいコメントですねwまぁ冗談はさておき、急所を狙わない「実戦」なんて無いでしょうね。

@tomoyama7176 4 жыл бұрын

それは建設的な議論にならないだろうね、護身の場合、ヨーイドンで始まらないしね。

@ぴうい-j1o 4 жыл бұрын

まず殺傷が禁止な時点で実戦とはいえんよな殺傷目的の武術とか競技にできんし

@まつせい-n5j 4 жыл бұрын

格闘技における実戦は喧嘩や殺し合いやから超役に立つ(･∀･)

@人間男-w7q 5 жыл бұрын

昔読んだな龍清剛著「秘伝必殺・鉄砂掌」写真がなかなか迫力あったの覚えてる西郷輝彦も弟子の一人で写真出てたでも有名な使い手顧汝章は武術上のいさかいで立ち合った柳森厳に負けてるよな

@MarkConway73 5 жыл бұрын

6:35 Very cool but I'd like to see the back-hand strike used the same way when blocking. Instead of blocking, attack the arm. Even better to double strike arm and head at the same time

@johndough8115 2 жыл бұрын

He is not blocking. His Interception, is an Attack to the OPs arm. He is impacting.. mostly with the Wristbone, and some of the side of the hand. That is much more potent than a backhand... because the wristbone comes to a point... where as the backhand, is mostly a flat surface hit. The pointed bone, causes much more impact damages to the attackers limb.

@MarkConway73 2 жыл бұрын

@@johndough8115 There's absolutely no reason to use the triquetrum bone or the tip of the ulna and it will never be more potent than a hammer-fist. I'm well aware of these techniques having studied wing-chun and southern mantis. Ginger-fist and ridge-hand can both hit harder, satisfy the physics of force/area while being cushioned by the whole hand instead of a trying to dislocate a floating bone in the wrist or chipping the point of the ulna for the sake of style points. Even striking with the back of the wrist using a crane fist is better. Same with striking the eye and neck. Just use a phoenix-eye fist.

@johndough8115 2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkConway73 Ive also studied Wing Chun. In fact, Ive had 3 Different teachers, each form a few different lineages. I can tell you, that what you are saying is not correct. A finger strike, can dive deeper into the tissue, because of its narrower shape... compared to a Fist. The same is true, when you impact tissue with the pointed part of your wristbone. It penetrates deeper than a "HammerFist" can...and is more akin to create a pressure-point effect.. in addition to the standard damages. Additionally, what he is doing, is basically a ridge hand. Its just that if you want to do more damage, you angle it so that the wristbone impacts first, for better effect. Not too long ago, I was doing a demo with an MMA fighter. As he launched a punch, I dropped my arm vertically down into a Jut Sao. I only used about 10 to 15% of the potentials that I was capable of delivering on it. It not only stopped his attack cold.. but Nearly shattered his own wristbone / forearm area. Before the end of an hour, it has swollen up nearly double in size, and he was in severe pains for many days to follow. That said... a lot of Wing Chun practitioners, have never developed Fajing (Short range, explosive power).. so you might not even understand such potentials. Chipping the Wristbone?! For one thing.. the wristbone is one of the hardest bones. For another... You SHOULD have conditioned it well on the Sandbag... just like every other handshape. Hitting a persons limbs, is not like hitting solid Steel, either. This is Not about "Style" points. Its about effective combat. The same exact bone, is used for a Palm Strike.. but using the front face of it, rather than the bottom, or bottom point. One should not be impacting a palmstrike, with the whole hand. You angle the wristbone to impact first, preventing the fingers from acting as shock absorbers, and delivering a more potent strike. The position and type of Interception he is using, is far more appropriate, than using a Crane hand. The crane hand does not have the same vertical coverage... and is more likely to end up either missing, or slipping off the OPs limb. In WC, you dont, for example.. try to Punch the OPs incoming arm. Instead, you use wide coverage techs, such as Tan Sau, Gan Sau, Bong Sau...etc.. to Sweep the space in front of you... until contact is Made. Pak Sau is one of the few times you use a smaller hand tech to make contact with a limb... but even that is far different than a the small fist sized punch, or Cranes neck. The Crane neck, is often used at close ranges. Often delivered from the Fuk Sau position. If its ever used to strike the OPs arm... its usually only because the arm is fairly Static at the time... such as them trying to hold you.. at close ranges. "Same with striking the eye and neck. Just use a phoenix-eye fist" - Why would I hit the eye or neck with the Pheonix eye, when I could use Biu Gee ?! The finger strike has much more Reach. And IMO, tends to be much stronger. The fingers can also penetrate much deeper into the neck (or other areas) tissue... where as the shorter and fatter single knuckle, can only go so far. The Pheonix knuckle, would be better for when you might not have the time to go from a closed fist.. into a precision pressure point strike area. For times when you are starting to be grappled, and cant get enough distance for a fingerstrike. Often, for when you want more of a twisting or sidewards strike, such as twisting it towards the OPs ribcage, at very close range. It tends to be the "let me go" strike, when you are starting to be grappled (or when your arms are static, being wrapped up in a Chi-Sau like stand-off)... due to its Point which hurts more than a standard wide fist attack.

@MarkConway73 2 жыл бұрын

@@johndough8115 You're typing way too much. if you want coverage, you wouldn't use your wrist, you'd use ginger-fist, but not the type in WC, that looks like panther fist. the one in southern mantis is more gnarled and has greater coverage to catch their fist...and damage their wrist. We used sandbags, iron poles and each other; one person hammer downwards, the other palm-striking. We used liniment oil too. so I happen to know something about conditioning. I'm well aware of fa-jin. (not fa-fing) Took a while due to my decades of Karate habits, but it can even work with phoenix-eye, another reason not to use the wrist. 1 less range of motion to whip with. Use the wrist as the chain, not the ball. Physics. "The same exact bone, is used for a Palm Strike.. but using the front face of it" No it's not. The palm strike uses the Lunate bone, not the ulna. This is the second time I've told you this. Go study the skeleton. You claim to be a martial artist and don't know anatomy. Trying to say the knifehand is a palmstrike won't work here. Different part of the hand, different technique. If you're going to biu gee, just biu gee and end the fight. Why do you want to try and "block". Yes. If you are waiting for the opponent to attack, you're defending. Just strike. Get inside them. fingers in their eyes, double fishhook their mouth apart, whatever. (don't do this, mayhem is illegal) Single knuckle strikes harder than biu gee and penetrates deeper. Go punch trees with both techniques, see which one allows you to punch harder. Biu gee has range but leaves fingers exposed. Feel free to fight with your fingers open though. I just hope you don't come across anyone good at chin-na. "The fingers can also penetrate much deeper into the neck (or other areas) tissue" Then use eagle claw. Biu gee doesn't even need to penetrate. Don't you have 50 mosquito punches to fire off? "and is more likely to end up either missing, or slipping off the OPs limb" So rather than use an area 3 times the size, you prefer to use a tiny part of your wrist at the exact moment against your opponents hand. Congratulations, you played yourself. "In WC, you dont, for example.. try to Punch the OPs incoming arm. Instead, you use wide coverage techs, such as Tan Sau, Gan Sau, Bong Sau...etc.. to Sweep the space in front of you... until contact is Made." Welcome to my first comment where I said those techniques are useless. No need to block and redirect. Destroy their arms instead. I actually said use both hands. hammer their arms and jaw at the same time. WC practitioners love to "protect their centre" Now stop clout-chasing on a 2 year old comment. He blocked and he even said the word "uke", even if it was an offensive block. Let it go. This back and forward can go on forever. I'm not going to entertain someone who's not even man enough to use their real account. Not even going to read your reply. Go fook sau yourself.

@dwrabauke Жыл бұрын

Miyahira Sensei is great. A part of me wishes to be trained by him, even if only for a day, another part is really scared of his skills. :D

@tomoyama7176 4 жыл бұрын

李書分が「二の打ちいらず」って言われてたのが分かるね。流派は違えど、中国拳法は恐ろしい・・

@standupsong4895 5 жыл бұрын

なるほど　サンドバッグは語ってくれない・・か・・

@ふんじゃった 5 жыл бұрын

怖ろしい技術を紹介している時、とても楽しそうと感じるのは自分だけかな、、、、、、(笑)

@市川賢一-p1p 4 жыл бұрын

昔、龍清剛（日本人）いう方が「鉄沙掌」の練功方について本を出されていましたが、そのお弟子さんは、今どうされているでしょうか？

@れんざん 5 жыл бұрын

雲南百薬じゃなくて雲南「白」薬ですね。漢方の打ち身の特効薬。活血作用のある田七人参を主とした薬。でもスプレータイプがあるとは知らなかった。

@08R-d7s 4 жыл бұрын

この人、自分が死にそうな時以外は絶対技は使わないんだろうな…。

@早乙女勇 5 жыл бұрын

雲南百薬も拳児に出てた。登場してた張さんの本も昔買ってた。

@agnosticbamboo 5 жыл бұрын

監督いい顔！

@jm6jsy 5 жыл бұрын

爽やかな笑顔で、本気で打ち込んだら文字通りの致命傷な技を説明する宮平先生・・・。昔みた映画たしか少林寺三十六房だったか、その類で砂鉄をひたすら突いていたような気がする。薬に手を浸すってのもやってたと思う。

@ザグレートエスケープ 5 жыл бұрын

練習後の薬の塗布がめちゃくちゃカンフーだね

@GOD-hl7ks 2 жыл бұрын

今回は、カメラワーク動かしすぎて少し見づらかったです。

@itsman2001 5 жыл бұрын

八卦掌，劈掛掌と組み合わせると相性が良い。

@ボブ-f6w 4 жыл бұрын

人間の体って訓練するとこんなに危険になるのか

@tospenny 5 жыл бұрын

先生から常に殺気が…

@オールマイティー-i9e 4 жыл бұрын

抜き手で遠くから突くんではなく、触れたからえぐるって、生々しいわww

@namahum0714 5 жыл бұрын

この技は冗談抜きででヤバそう…

@にゃんこわんこ-r6l 4 жыл бұрын

石丸郁万逆に、人を殺したくないなら鉄砂掌をやるなって言う言葉もありますよね

@あっちょんぶりK 5 жыл бұрын

『ダメだと思います』　ｗ

@TheDEIBU 5 жыл бұрын

鉄砂掌の後の薬が壷やなくて今はスプレーになっとるんやねw 近代化されてる！

@葱ねぎ-z1q 5 жыл бұрын

台湾の太極拳の記事でエアーサロンパスは優秀だというのを読んだ事があります

@WallisCorreia 3 жыл бұрын

Essa técnica eu vi a primeira vez no treinamento Spetsnaz, Sensei!

@korranis1 Жыл бұрын

What is the spray he’s using at 13:20?

@honehone5471 5 жыл бұрын

空手の巻藁もそうだけど、ツボが密集してる身体の先端に強い刺激を与え続けるから腫れだけじゃ無く内蔵を悪くする空手家が多いと聞いた。それはどうしてるのだろう？

@ショートテクニック 4 жыл бұрын

見てるだけで痛みが伝わる。　5:28　のバシ～ン!!!

@lapisvipper7765 5 жыл бұрын

ほんとこの先生笑顔で人殺しそうで怖いw

@tora-tora-s44 5 жыл бұрын

昔は仇討ちを心に決めたら修める練功法だったそうですよ。ﾌﾞｯｺﾛ前提です

@diceamp3445 4 жыл бұрын

先生も何人かやってるよなうん、やってるよ

@JohnDoe-gz3fe 4 жыл бұрын

ツッコミ役がマスターしてはいけない技

@アルティメットハナハナ 3 жыл бұрын

@Iam Guts まなぶくんは消力を会得するべきです

@ベタドロン 5 жыл бұрын

先生はジョースター家の方？

@あにぺん 4 жыл бұрын

ただの興味なんですがいろいろな打撃をパンチングマシーンとかで数値化して欲しいですね。

@kumakuru96 4 жыл бұрын

意外と軽かったら余計恐ろしいですね

@kukri_knife 2 жыл бұрын

パンチングマシーンだと確か逆に軽かったような気がします…

@阿部天神-k7d 4 жыл бұрын

グラップラー刃牙の打震見たいですね😅

@菊地崇志-j4n 5 жыл бұрын

排打功も大事ですね。亀背功とか見てみたい。

@まめのすけ-q4u 3 жыл бұрын

宮平先生かっこいい！

@czzham Жыл бұрын

What is the spray you are using for the hands after strike training, and where can I get it (in English, please)? Domo Arigato.

@chancekuma2139 4 жыл бұрын

確かにナレーションと音楽変えたら凄く怖い動画になるかも(笑)

@ナイハンチ 4 жыл бұрын

巻き藁鍛錬とは効果が異なるんだろうか??

@ビーグル犬のくうちゃん 5 жыл бұрын

身体が凶器だな…恐ろしい

@lauraduffy9055 2 жыл бұрын

What is the type of medicine used after practice? Is that deet da jao?

@JanuszSyty-pj1uo Жыл бұрын

Sztuka walki jest dla Nas,a nie odwrotnie!Marek

@sato_tetsu 5 жыл бұрын

ナレーションで楽しい感じで・・・無理です、怖いです（笑）

@まんのういけ 4 жыл бұрын

すごく重そうな音

@sergkurz4647 5 жыл бұрын

Что за спрей?

@末永俊祐 3 жыл бұрын

つくと言うよりえぐるゾワっとした！

@Ls-qn4nr 5 жыл бұрын

危険〜！

@秋尝否 5 жыл бұрын

铁砂掌...我记得小时候看的武侠电视剧里，是把手插进烫砂里练的。那时就在想，“这招练会了炒板栗岂不是很方便”，想学学看，结果后来看到修炼铁砂掌方法不当会经脉寸断还是怎么的，就很害怕于是放弃了

@vtkboyfernandes4022 2 жыл бұрын

voce pode colocar por favor legendas em PT br? ObrigadOOOO

@kuroneco3438 5 жыл бұрын

すでに音が普通じゃない

@dimulaidari 3 жыл бұрын

It's better using chi/inner power for palm styles. In fact the palm are more efective and flexiable to hit and defend. Palm styles are like water,cloud and bambo ( iam using an analogy).