Penkaye and Zubayr

Jahn Bar Penkaye wrote when Ibn Zubayr was alive. He records that in the wars with Damascus Zubayr relocated south from the Holy City. This only makes sense if the Holy City was Petra. Discover what else Penkaye said about what was happening in Islam. Visit nabataea.net to download a free copy of Let The Stones Speak.

[@brojosingha6700]

Long time no see, no talks. Happy to hear your voice. Thank you Dan.

[@RoseMargareth-n1m]

Hear, hear! Africa here.

[@pcdyck]

Thanks Dan, good to hear from you again! This is very interesting information.

[@pharsight8928]

I was waiting for new discoveries for long time, thanks a lot and bless you.

[@25_26]

Professor is back ! Finally a quality content and history teller on youtube!

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Happy New Year Sir. Great to see you are healthy. GBY and your family.

[@MajidFarrokhnezhad]

Good to see you again mr. Gibson. Your absence was too long. Please upload more videos more often. Thnx from iran

[@alendakala1303]

Excellent explanation by bro Dan well done.

[@alphabeta86]

The church of the east is the apostolic Assyrian church of the east of Mar toma ( st Thomas )

[@traceursebas]

He’s back once again!

[@jamalkhan3708]

Very informative and interesting. Thank you for sharing.

[@aliuyar6365]

Thank you for your help. I have a better understanding on those early days.

[@ziarehman4421]

Can you share with me ?

[@dj4160]

It's been a long long time, nice to see you again!

[@bazfazal9929]

Most of mankind are blind….your content is always inspiring and never fails to point one to the inevitable truth.

[@rolaq.2053]

Welcome back 😊❤

[@jackaroo1231]

Keep it up!

[@Rbzz0077]

Dear Dan, first of all thank you as you have invested your life in this work and as a Muslim i have always at a later age considered or thought some of the Muslim history does not make sense and the Quran is very vague in discription so i totally agree that history has been changed to suit rulers of the time however i would like to see some focus or something about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) family or Ali bin abu talib(saw) as they also were very influential even to our present day so surely they played a major role in shaping the religion and must have had some input in the qibla direction as you know the Shia have twelve Imams and the last Imam is said to have been around 232-260 A-H , do we know what point of view was during that period.

[@veritas_sweden]

Thank you Dan 💝

[@sgt.grinch3299]

I agree with our assessment Sir.

[@brianphillips1864]

Fascinating. Thanks for this.

[@cal2127]

would you also consider doing a series on pre-islamic arabia as a whole. that whole timeframe is fascinating to me

[@DanGibsonFilms]

The expert on Pre-Islamic Arabia is Dr. Al-Jallad. I agree with almost everything he says, except when he decides something is myth, and other things are trustworthy. But check him out at: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ6xXqODf6h-l7M

[@cal2127]

​@@DanGibsonFilmsthanks for the reccomend! honestly im reading your new book now and i find your whole theory fascinating.

[@DM5550Z]

The gigachad has returned. I hope we get more statistics on the petra qiblas out, as there is many more old mosques not looked at like the al-nejashi mosque among other really old mosques in Africa.

[@harryfontesugiarto]

Hi Dan, great to hear you and watch your video again. This video makes me think, they dare enough to burn the house of Allah meaning the construction/ building (the kabah) means nothing to the religion. It was and it is the black stone that matters in this case. Could I conclude that the Black Stone is much more important than the Kabah building itself?

[@alwilliams3628]

Dan should be in the UN. Someone needs to teach Muslims something reasonable and understandable about their actual history. That is....as compared to historical fantasy.

[@Huddz74]

How come Allah swt never sent the birds with stones to destroy hujaj like he did with Abraha?

[@DM5550Z]

You are looking at it from a religious lense instead of a historical lense is the issue. Without that, it is perfectly fine historically and in scholarship.

[@jma7600]

There are no birds no stones no elephants no Kaaba. The whole story is a fairy tale. Abraha was dead and buried when this fantasy supposedly took place. The tragic thing is that it is a Surat of the Quran that is supposed to be Allah’s swt words.

[@Huddz74]

@jma7600 yes thanks I read with correct translation Arabs don't understand there own language that's the part I don't understand??

[@roukayajannah5111]

At time 3:33 … The phrase ‘’ He was able to remain independent until 689, when he submitted to `Abdel-Malik.’’ is not in the text of Book 15 by John Bar Penkaye. He didn’t write that, also there is no date in his full text. This is from the footnote 28 (at the bottom of the text) by Alphonse Mingana and Sebastian Brock. You add deliberately to the text of an author and you are presenting this to people as authentic! And you want me to trust you??? What a shame! Also, Sebastian Brock adds in footnote 29: The events of October 683 are meant here, rather than al-Hajji's seige of Mecca in 692. I agree with him!

[@ziarehman4421]

I am from originally from Pakistan, we don’t understand Arabic language, but we are forced to believe a fabricated novel written in Farsi alphabet ( Arabic spoken language, Quran) , I can understand this book was not written by one writer, it work of many organized rulers, we can not trace back in history, because they use Quran as empires tool to create new law of god Lah as Allah .

[@roukayajannah5111]

@@ziarehman4421 The problem is the rulers misuse Quran, don’t understand it correctly, that’s bad. You are confuse, Allah is not Lah. Allah in Arabic come from the same root in Aramaic, Hebrew. Aramaic: Alaha Hebrew: Eloh Arabic: Allah

[@mrboesthius1682]

Didn't Penkeye write this work in 687? How can he state that Zubeyr died in 689? Moreover, there is no dating regarding this in the work he wrote.

[@MuhammadDanyalKhan]

What is the link between hebrew bible text and sumerian text? There are a lot of parallels we can see starting from story of creation, anunaki, Gilgamesh, hamurabi etc. Would love to hear your ideas on that.

[@kouakouyacoubakanga9699]

Shalom Dan Gibson, je demande la tradition de tes vidéos en français.

[@mithulaghari257]

PLEASE,.. Translate all Q& A , and other Discussion , if is it possible.... SIR

[@foulshoul2592]

God bless you 🙏🙏✝️⚘❤

[@Soothsayer210]

Dan, you had a plan to make another movie on 'Let the Stones Speak', is that still on the table?

[@cal2127]

so im a little confused. the seige and evidence of the seige is at petra but you think the shrine was moved to mecca at the time of this seige... or after this siege?

[@DanGibsonFilms]

The nine year siege ended with Zubayer loosing and being killed. So Zubayer could only have moved the Black Rock south before that time. He did not move the entire shrine, just the Black Rock, which could easily have been placed on a camel. It is not very large, and at that time was probably all in one peice. The Qarmatians broke it during their protests that Mecca in Saudi is not the true Masjid al-Haram that pilgrims should go to. Please check out the chapter in the book: Let The Stones Speak. It can be freely downloaded from nabataea.net.

[@msemakweli-wk3lg]

Looks like Petra is refusing to be hidden anymore. Truth is a stubborn thing.

[@dqschannel]

Muhammad would me a transliteration as it was written as MHMD which was a title. Everything written about Islam is from sources coming centuries later.

[@hans471]

I think the sentence: "he went south" could also mean that Al zubayr went south from Damskus to Petra/Mekka where he established his reign @DG: Also according to your history Ibn Zubayr himself never went to Mekka/Sa?

[@DanGibsonFilms]

I have never seen anything that spoke of Zubayer being in Damascus. All the ancient writers place him in the holy city. The Second Fitna, all 9 years of it, were a protest against the Islamic capital being moved to Damascus.

[@roukayajannah5111]

Ibn Zubayr went South, here’s the story … Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr was born in Madinah in 624. Ibn al-Zubayr was the first child born to the Muhajirun, the earliest converts to Islam who had been exiled from Makkah to Madinah. So Ibn Zubayr is from Madinah, if he went South he went to Makkah. In fact, to avoid being forced to acknowledge Yazid as the successor of Mu'awiya, Ibn Zubayr fled from Madinah to Makkah.

[@aericabison23]

Yep- he’s Canadian alright ❤

[@two_tier_gary_rumain]

8:50 Bathhouse in Petra but none in Mucka. But there used to be a toilet block in Mucka. You can see it in old photos of Mucka. It was demolished when they expanded the enclosure for the Kaaba. The funny thing was that the toilet block in question used to be Mahound's house. lol!!! Rather fitting that they would turn it into a toilet block.

[@jauneetbrun]

John bar Penkaye (not Jahn). Also known as Yōḥannān bar Penkāyē and ܝܘܚܢܢ ܒܪ ܦܢܟܝ̈ܐ according to Wikipedia.

[@barry7608]

Thanks DG makes a lot of sense to me, as Islamic history has a very foggy start.

[@fantasia55]

Dan Gibson is at his best when he sticks to the data and historical evidence from the 7th century. In contrast, trying to adapt it to the Standard Islamic Narrative is pointless, because Islam was invented later, by the Abbasids.

[@Sailive-c5m]

Дорогой Ден Гипсон,скажите пожалуйста,где можно найти такой прибор,который показывал киблу в сторону Петру ???

[@mohammedsouheil8503]

Could someone give me source for roman bathhouse in Mecca please. I couldn’t find anything.

[@Interdevdesign]

So Mohammed (pbuh) was invited to yathrib (Medina) south from Petra instead of North from Mecca? Is that what you are saying? The stone was moved south 70 AH Just need more clarity as I'm certain there is a reference that Medina is north of Mecca (geographically true) But that alone contradicts Petra being Mecca

[@trysomenew5377]

Sir you have doubts of qibla please see al muqaddimah details maybe than you can understand

[@roukayajannah5111]

For Hama Great Mosque built in 637, your qibla tool got it wrong! Instead of pointing Hama Great Mosque, the blue balloon is pointing Al-Hassanin Mosque. Too bad because the qibla is different! The Hama Great Mosque is about 3 blocks away, it’s easy to recognize it by its specific characteristics. Now it’s time to find the real qibla of Hama Great Mosque with your GPS apps! You will see it’s not pointing Petra anymore!

[@DanGibsonFilms]

I am always excited and very grateful when someone spots an error! Thank you for letting me know. I have now made some changes. The Hama Great Mosque was rebuilt in the 1980s, and has a Between Qibla. It has been rebuilt over the centuries several times, so this adds a bit more of the story. The Hassanin Mosque is also very interesting, as its shape, size, and orientation hints that it may be a much older mosque than Nur AlDin. I suspect he just rebuilt it, based on an earlier mosque. I have not found any architectural or archaeological reports on this mosque yet.

[@ثابت-ج6ض]

Mr Dan Gibson there are tow Ka'bas ONE FOR umrah AND another is for hajj this is the Couse of Misunderstanding. the evidence that back this theory comes from hajj rules, there are 3 type of hajj tow of them involve sacrifices animals and one don't, the tow type of hajj must go by petra the first Ka'ba, the third type don't have to go to petra. Quraysh tribe have tow trip, one in the summer and one in winter, that is another evidence

[@earnesteffort8115]

Thanks dear Dan for your great research. I want to say something about this mater according to Quranic instructions & the archeological research done by you. --------------------- Bacca's Baitullah to Macca's Masjidul Haram~ ~Foundation of the first house was made by the prophet Ibrahim and his elder son Ismail at Bacca (may be Petra), which Allah has mentioned in the Qur'an as 'My House' (Baytiya), so It is called Baitullah or House of Allah. This was the "first Qibla" of Prophet Ibrahim (as) and the followers of Islam. Naturally it was also the 1st Qibla of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). ~Regarding Bytullah's foundation in Mecca- *Al-Quran- That you may warn a people whose forefathers were not warned, so they are unaware. (36:6) And among them are the "Ummi-Una" - those who know nothing of the Book of Allah except as dreamers. They have nothing but imagination. (2:78) ~If Prophet Ibrahim (AS) had already come to Mecca and laid the foundations of the Kaaba, then why does the Holy Qur'an instruct that the inhabitants and their forefathers there were not warned earlier? As a result they were all unware or ignorant of the knowledge of the divine book. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was not unlettered or uneducated in worldly knowledge. Rather, he was chosen as a prophet from among the ummi qaum and was given clear instructions from Allah Almighty to warn such an ummi qaum i.e. community by revealing the Qur'an to him. Details are given in the following link- facebook.com/100031725759944/posts/pfbid02gVFNNyMNjkLw17j4utQzyHWMZWPZxegB7TUji3sdUKoLwsC3t2Qi22nZdDmGj2Enl/?app=fbl ~If the Kaaba was already in Mecca and Ibrahim and Ishmael (AS) came there and laid the foundation for the repair of the Kaaba, then the people there and their forefathers should not have been completely ignorant or unaware of the knowledge of the Holy Book. There have been many ups and downs and devastating events in the history of Islam. As a result, many true histories may be hidden behind lies. Nowhere in the Qur'an does it say to worship the house "Kaaba", or whatever is in it, but (106:3) it only instructs to worship the Lord of this house. ~According to the verse no. (14:37): If there was no cultivable land in Bacca then how did the people there get so many fruits as food for their livelihood? Therefore, in search of truth, this matter deserves to be researched according to the instructions of the Qur'an and archeological evedences. ~The Holy Qur'an instructed Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to warn the "ummul qura" (Mother of Cities) and its surrounding cities (6:92). Some researchers claim that "Ummul Qura" refers to Bakka i.e. Petra according to archaeological research. Because Petra was once an important trading area. Famous cities and ports are located around it. ~Recent archaeological research has revealed that, at that time the land of Petra was uncultivable. This place is described in the Qur'an (14:37) as having once been the an uncultivated valley. But the descendants (Nabatinis) of Prophet Ibrahim and Ishmael, (as) took a revolutionary initiative. They very systematically took measures to store and properly supply the water in the hilly areas. As a result, a large part of the uncultivated area became arable and they became self-sufficient in food shortage. *Al-Qur'an- Our Lord, I have settled some of my descendants in an uncultivated valley near Your Inviolable House, our Lord, that they may establish prayer. So make hearts among the people incline toward them and provide for them from the fruits that they might be grateful. (14:37) ~Over a long period of time, after the death of Prophet Ibrahim and Ishmael (as), the community of Bacca i.e. Petra turned towards paganism. As a result, Almighty Allah sent great punishment there. Some of the people who survived fled from there and sought refuge in the distant Macca. Going there, they built a cube-shaped house "Kaaba" in the style of Baitullah, but as per the old practice they indulged in paganism again. ~Historical accounts indicate that the people of Mecca indulged in idolatry in the Kaaba and turned away completely from divine teachings. The group who guarded the Kaaba at that time and indulged in paganism is called the Quraysh. After a long period of time Allah has chosen Muhammad as a prophet from the people of Macca, who were Ummi and indulged in paganism. Allah revealed the Qur'an on him. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was given the mission of preaching the guidance of the Qur'an by Allah Almighty. But the pagans of Macca denied his prophethood and tried to torture and even kill him. Then he hijara to Madina along with his disciples. After the conquest of Macca this cube shaped house "Kaaba" was transformed and established by prophet Muhammad as the symbol of uniqueness of Allah. Allah is the central or main power source of all creations. Muslims don't worship the Kaaba. They only tawaf it like Baitullah & remember the uniqueness of Almighty and All-knowing Allah. ~The area surrounding the Kaaba is called Masjid-ul-Haram, where Muslims pray to the Almighty Allah and is an inviolable place. Historically the black stone carries nothing but the memory of the Prophet Muhammad. From that point of view it can only be a visitable object. There is nothing mentioned in the Quran about the black stone & zamzam well and these have nothing to do with Allah. Therefore, if anyone exaggerate these, there is a possibility of getting involved in sins like shirk rather than virtue. ~Prophet Muhammad was sent by Almighty Allah with the mission of spreading the guidance of the Qur'an to Ummul qura i.e. Bacca (Petra) and its adjacent cities. Therefore, after the death of Prophet Muhammad, his followers tried to fulfill that responsibility despite the conflict among themselves. As human beings they were certainly not above deviation. However, most of them devoted their lives to spread the unadulterated message of the Qur'an from one end of the world to the other. They achieved the impossible in a short span of time and their fame will be written in golden letters in the history of the world.

[@KetanJadhav-r9j]

Plz explain saman culture sir 🙏

[@LMN579]

Dear Dan! Please consider translating your book into arabic. It will be great for muslims.

[@willempasterkamp862]

Does the Huqoq elephant mosaic depict the people of the elephant (calf) aka the people of Ad (height). the saints of high places, nazarites being the claudians, nicolaitans ?

[@DanGibsonFilms]

Interesting observation. I think the centrality of the calf seems to indicate a Jewish story, rather than a Petra story.

[@willempasterkamp862]

@@DanGibsonFilms It is undeniable a jewish piece of art but the story behind is to discover in all 3 abrahamic faithts ; the jewish horn-bearer is Melchisedek, the christian is Cornelius and the islamic version is dhul Qarnain, The humbled king/general/heir is Zebedee and his 2 horns (the Calf) represent his Twin (sons). they are also represented by the 2 'baby' elephants. Overall the scene depicts the meeting between Ananias (Albinus) and Zacharias (Festus) or in biblical terms : Paul met by 'light' (the ebionites led by Cephas) on the road to Damascus. A father and 2 sons is to find in the 3 magi/ wise men and by almost all the jewish patriarchs and of course it is the ancient concept of trinity. If I'm well Petra was a centre of EL/eloh (allah), trinity worship ? Just like various semitic towns like Jerusalem, Rahab, Babel, Tyre, Carthage and Cadiz ? Melkart/dagon and his 2 pillars or his 2 urges ?

[@cjphillips90]

Thank you for the video. Commenting for the Algorithm. :)

[@freedomwarrior-gt1pw]

Mr. GIBSON, As Iranian . I study and translate Quran for decades and compare it with bible and history. I found Quran a collection of repeated lectures, lectionaries, preachings of more than one jewish preacher or lecturer. These jews belonged to an antitrinity, apocalyptic Sect, trying to win new members among jews and newly christs to take part in everlasting wars between persian empire an bizantine empire with their arab proxies to gain more influence and earthy power. As we know Abramic lies of bearded archaic desert nomads had nothing to do with sky and space and other dellusions.

[@kamalsalhi6857]

And moving south to theire worshiping house : if mecca did not contain Kaaba why is it called theire place of worshiping ?

[@ziarehman4421]

کیا آپ جانتے ہیں کہ اصل قرآن کیا ہے؟ قرآن مجید کا اردو میں غلط ترجمہ کیا گیا ہے، وہ کتاب (ذلک کتاب) یہ کتاب (حزہ کتاب) نہیں ہے، تو ہماری تہذیب، پھر بھی قرآن کو ہدایت کے طور پر کیوں مانتے ہیں؟ جب قرآن خود کہہ رہا ہے تو قرآن قرآن نہیں ہے. And, ا ل م = الم = knowledge. Do you have knowledge, that book is Ramayana Puran , from originally from the raja Lah son of Rama ?

[@nunyabeeswax9463]

I reference you quite often on X Should I stop???? Seriously Muslims are weird

[@ricetanzania4148]

muslims are locked up in their ideology and afraid of the outside world

[@armyofmahdi99]

please sir Bangla speaking

[@Ogun128]

Alt yazıya neden Türkçe koymadın, keşke Türkçe de ekleseydin Biz de gerçekleri öğrenmek istiyoruz

[@Uniule]

Why should he add Turkish subtitles specifically? Just turn on the autotranslate in the settings.

[@Ogun128]

@@Uniule in the settigs there are not turkish maybe if dan gibson has a right of the set from KZbin he can do it, i think

[@Uniule]

@@Ogun128 You will find Turkish and other languages in the settings if you open this video on a desktop computer or a laptop, not on the phone.

[@Ogun128]

@@Uniule thanks 🙋

[@mrboesthius1682]

Ogün Selam. Ben 600-900 yılları arasındaki antik eslerin bulunduğu bir kitap yazdım. John bar Penkeye dahil diğer tüm bilgilerin bulunduğu kitabı Google Kitaplar'dan ücretsiz bir şekilde erişebilirsin. Kitabın adı "Mukaddes Şehir Petra"@@Ogun128

[@lovetwentyfourseven7428]

If Dan is Right, the interesting part is also the biblical prophecies that all surround petra, and in petra there is a biblical history, and prophecy connection, so I would be curious if this is the real muhammed, and there was a movement, that later got taken over by an empire!

[@PsssttstttSstt-qw1my]

lol you really need to study islam in onder to understand petra. allah did not senr prophet muhammed to petra but allah send prophet salih or oropaply other prophets. we are not suprised . but you do becouse you dont understand and dan gibson is confusing you on purpose and lying to to big time . all this he is doing just to preffend people from accrpting islam. dan gibson is basicly what the bile. torah and quran calls a devil or a human satan. 😂😂😂 . wake uo my friend

[@qms4768]

🕌 📿 Bring the truth to the Muslim. Credible history plz 🌹 Duas 🤲 📿 for you & for your family

[@ziarehman4421]

Is- Lah م, means , worship of Lah , not Allah , Lah was a Indian king , who son of Ram , who lived 3 thousands years ago. I am , his DNA 🧬 based great great grandson.

[@ddman5025]

Esau Edom is from around Petra as well interesting.

[@rundaniel8221]

Esau loves God, but when Israel comes against him, he’d love to align himself with the nations (including gentiles) around.

[@ddman5025]

@@rundaniel8221 Esau loves the devil not God. The word Gentile doesn’t even belong in the Bible.

[@rundaniel8221]

@@ddman5025 Esau doesn't love the devil. I don't want your opinion: I rely on Scriptures. Read Deuteronomy 2: "And Jehovah spake unto me, saying, 3 Ye have compassed this mountain long enough: turn you northward. 4 And command thou the people, saying, Ye are to pass through the border of your brethren the children of Esau, that dwell in Seir; and they will be afraid of you. Take ye good heed unto yourselves therefore; 5 contend not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as for the sole of the foot to tread on; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession." God gave land to Esau even before Israel came to possess Canaan. And there are a few other instances that states that God had blessed Esau, including in Genesis.

[@ddman5025]

@@rundaniel8221 God hate’s Esau. You are trying to convince the wrong person.

[@ziarehman4421]

Can you understand this ? A is added in beginning or end in Middle East or India 🇮🇳, Abraham = Brahama, ( Abrahamic ) Brahama = Abraham ( Brahamaic Adam = dam , Allah = the raja Lah son of Rama, ( Islamic) , Languages in Islamic history, Aramic = a Ram- ic , is Ram’s language, Arabic = a rab ‘s language, also Arab- ic =Arab ‘s language. Rama and Rab is Indian kings , long ago, as gods / Bhagwan. Is- Lah م , worshiper’s of Lah . is - ra - el , means children of king Ra , is - ma- el , means children of king Ma . Who was king Ra or king Ma , in history? Al gor, Al Roy, Al Lah , Alexander , Al - Skandar, also Quran called same manas Dulqurnan. A- ra ب = means worshiper of sun god Ra , ( sun god Ra Wally) , is - Ra - el , tribe of king Ra , Ra is Sun ☀️ god Ra, in many religious stories, even in Hindus as sourajj god / Bhagwan. Isa and musa are not name , they are , masa ( brother of Maryam) and Isa is son of Maryam, And Maryam was wife of Roman god king Cesar. Originally islam is modified by worship of older time gods, like Sun ☀️ worship, Bhagwan ra-ma worship and Rama son lah worship as Al- Lah.

[@almazchati4178]

Yes, Islam is another aspect of Hinduism. There are two problems though. One is all Hindus will hate you. The second is, in olden days someone said there are a lot of wonderful things in India/Hindus, but they are all like a lotus flower growing in cow dong. Using that analogy, Islam must be the lotus flower, and Hinduism is cow dong.

[@drftrkjhguvgggfd]

​@@almazchati4178Yes but it's wrong. Hinduism is the lotus that comes from pank or mud of human conditions or suffering. Islam is but a fly that comes and sits on the srem of tgat lotus.

[@Victory1942]

Couldn't the move south have been from medina to what is today known as Mekka?

[@roukayajannah5111]

Yes, Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr was born in Madinah in 624. Ibn al-Zubayr was the first child born to the Muhajirun, the earliest converts to Islam who had been exiled from Makkah to Madinah. So Ibn Zubayr is from Madinah, if he moves South he moves to Makkah. In fact, to avoid being forced to acknowledge Yazid as the successor of Mu'awiya, Ibn Zubayr fled from Madinah to Makkah. Petra is not on the way!

[@ziarehman4421]

Very thoughtful, but in Arabic book Quran has Only two names for directions, easts and wests ( مثرق - مغرب)

[@imadabiad4326]

The Kaaba is not the building that is being mentioned in the Quran. The holy place of worship that the Quran is repeatedly mentioning is Masjid Al Haram, sometimes referred to as the Antique Masjid (Masjid Al Ateeq). The Kaaba is unfortunately not the Masjid Al Haram that the Quran has been referring to ! The Kaaba is a wording used by the Pagans of Petra which means the cube or the square. These buildings existed in Petra and northern Arabia a long before the monotheistic religion of: submission to the will of God called "islam" in Arabic which is the same religion of the Jews and the Christians being the doctrine preached by Abraham, Moses and Jesus. The Pagans wanted to continue the worship of the black stones in Petra represented by their cubic temples. Marwan ibn AbdulMalik wanted to bring an end to this practice, however the Pagans escaped with the black stones to avoid Persecution by Al Hajjaj. The Masjid Al Haram referred to in the Quran is the holy sanctuary that is sacred to Jews, Christians and the true believers among today's Muslim population. Marwan ibn Abdulmalik has built the the dome of the rock building on the holy square of the Masjid Al Haram being the common holy ground for all the monotheists.

[@manomenon1]

Nasara who say that jesus is god and son of god are not monotheists

[@imadabiad4326]

@@manomenon1 Moses , Jesus and all the followers of these Prophets are Monotheists , any associations with God will render them polytheists. Among christians and Jews still are genuine monotheists.

[@kouakouyacoubakanga9699]

J’aime bien tes recherches mais je suis francophone.

[@ricetanzania4148]

will the translation service of youtube help you out? My advice is: learn English so you can have easy acces to the most info on internet

[@clarekuehn4372]

You're brilliant. Can you please also cover the Armenian Syriac parts of the Koran, the "dark passages" and twisted reuse of the hymns of Christians in the current forms of it. There are 3 books, two German scholars and one Armenian-speaker scholar. The arguments are amazing but the books are only available (of course) in expensive used copies: Luling, Sawma and Luxenberg, authors. We need attention on that. Also, have you seen how late early Islam was influenced by the large Marian church? kzbin.infowDE-aWSC8zg I am not saying Mohammed didn't exist. I am saying the religion was syncretic not only in Petra but later.

[@almazchati4178]

Those hymns were most likely inspired by Qur'an.

[@RustamShah]

Dan, it must be very difficult for you to do a video without a blue Shirt 😛

[@DanGibsonFilms]

I decided to start the New Year off with a change. Besides, I bought all the blue shirts in 2015 when we recorded The Sacred City. It was so hot there, I needed to change my shirt frequently, so I wasn't filmed covered in sweat. :(

[@RustamShah]

@@DanGibsonFilms In a world so vast, where colors are true, Blue skies above, or black night's hue. Whether day or whether night, Blue or black, both are a sight. I was kidding, you Sir are a treasure of information and I learned a lot from you. 😁

[@job341kg]

​@@DanGibsonFilms Можно задать вам один вопрос? Но только мне нужен максимально честный и однозначный ответ. Вам не кажется, что традиция почитания Черного камня не могла существовать во времена Мухаммеда, а появилась позже? (Точнее, была восстановлена, поскольку до Мухаммеда она была.)

[@eternaya]

​@@RustamShahBoth are my favourite colours.

[@joinmyparty]

Please share your thoughts on Christian narrative as well. To my understanding of the history of Christianity, Jesus never preached bible in his lifetime. Bible was invented by Paul the Jew long after the death of Jesus. Jesus never preached Christianity or visited churches. There was no church in his lifetime. Same is the case with Cross of slavery which Christians worship and hang around their necks. Bible and Christianity is an invented religion by Jews of that time. Could you elaborate on this keeping the history in front?

[@markusgorelli5278]

Psalm 110:1 A Psalm by David. Yahweh says to my Lord, “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool for your feet.” In other words, God is telling someone, to sit next to Him while he makes enemies submit to this person. Interestingly, in Islamic tradition, there is one that says that the name of Muhammed was written on the Throne alongside that of Allah. This has its own problems. Doesn't your name upon something imply ownership of the thing? Can Muhammed be the one referred to in Psalm 110:1? But there is a problem. The Quran says in 4:158 that Jesus was the one taken up to God. So if anyone is plausibly the one in Psalm 110:1, it is he. Anyone else is speculation unsupported by the Quran. There is even a bigger problem: Who has the ability to sit at the Right Hand of God? If a name, whether Muhammed or other, is written on the Throne of Allah, can it be any regular mortal? What do you conclude?

[@JayantSunil]

Are you still alive?

[@TheAftabrao]

What about the well of Zam zam? How zubayer erected that??

[@freedomwarrior-gt1pw]

You mean nobody can dig a well in someplace that he could expect water could be there??

[@siddiq4790]

☝️💯👍✊️

[@roukayajannah5111]

Ibn Zubayr went South, yes ... but not from Petra because he's from Madinah. Here’s the story … Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr was born in Madinah in 624. Ibn al-Zubayr was the first child born to the Muhajirun, the earliest converts to Islam who had been exiled from Makkah to Madinah. So Ibn Zubayr is from Madinah not Petra and he went South to Makkah. In fact, to avoid being forced to acknowledge Yazid as the successor of Mu'awiya, Ibn Zubayr fled from Madinah to Makkah. It’s an historical fact and Petra is not on way!

[@roukayajannah5111]

Zubayr was living in Madinah not Petra. Why you denied that fact? All historians acknowledge that Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr was born in Quba, Madinah. Here's a text in Arabic confirming where he was born: كان أول من ولد من المهاجرين في المدينة المنورة بعد الهجرة.. ولد في قباء في شوال سنة 1 هـ .. فمن هو ؟! أنه (عبد الله بن الزبير بن العوام) - رضي الله عنهما - ابن الصحابي الجليل الزبير بن العوام - رضي الله عنه - وأمه السيدة أسماء بنت أبي بكر الصديق - رضي الله عنهما - الملقبة بذات النطاقين. كان (عبد الله بن الزبير) ينتمي إلى أسرة مكية من بني عبد العزي بن قصي. ولد (عبد الله) في قباء في شوال سنة 1 هـ، وكانت أمه أسماء قد خرجت من مكة مهاجرة، وهي حاملا به.

[@roukayajannah5111]

@nadirakyildiz8857 Why Dan Gibson doesn’t provide any text or information where Ibn Zubayr came from? He says Zubayr went South but from where? From Petra, he doesn’t provide any proof even John Bar Penkaye. You can find easily a biography of Zubayr online. You’re not lazy, hey?

[@Jclo777]

@@roukayajannah5111 all the information on islams history comes from 200s yrs or so after muhammed supposedly died and are unreliable - from archaelogical evidence like coins, rocks, etc. if you watch gibson and others, evidence - it shows modern Mecca was never a popular city until 8th or 9th century after the black stone was probably moved there. Early Qiblas all faced towards petra, quranic passages that supposedly talk about mecca look nothing like mecca does or would have at the the time of muhammed and resemble very closely to petra. I recommend you watch more of Gibsons work or Jay Smith. I dont know why you think this little video is a documentary, its just to update people on more information about the topic. He and many others have a ton of proof with articles, books, and videos. You're not lazy, hey?

[@msemakweli-wk3lg]

​@@roukayajannah5111"Went south, from where?" Is it not obvious that unless otherwise stated, it is from where the narrator is? And where is the narrator? Petra, of course.

[@jesonchase2233]

@nadirakyildiz8857 chinese camp 😂🤣

[@maxschon7709]

In that time Islam wasn't Seen as New Religion but a sect of christianity. Why dir Hajjaj took the black Rock Back? Maybe because it broke in pieces thru His actions?

[@ossamah1959]

من يحب الابن دان جيبسون فليوصل له الرساله

[@job341kg]

​ @DanGibsonFilms Кстати, о том, что "Ислам является наказанием христианам за то, что они не следовали путем Бога" - вы не задумывались о том, что история Христианства, возможно, искажена намного сильнее, чем история Ислама? Да, наверное у мусульман есть какие-то проблемы с киблой и еще некоторыми другими вещами, но в целом учение Мухаммеда достаточно однозначно и непротиворечиво, а сохранность Корана явно намного лучше, чем у Евангелий, которые противоречат как друг другу, так и сами себе.

[@MarkCyrill]

muhamed was a criminal

[@job341kg]

@@MarkCyrill Вы имеете право на собственное мнение, но прошу заметить, что я говорю не о том, был ли Мухаммед преступником или не был, а об искажениях в Христианстве.

[@ossamah1959]

حبيبي ابني. دان العزيز اهنئك على كل ماتقوم به وهو بعين الإله الاسمى ماقمت به ستشكر عليه على عيون الملأ من العالمين وستنال شهادة من ملك الملوك لانك باحث طيب وانساني نعم ماقلته عن ابن الزبير صحيح وهناك في. مكه المكرمه. ماكروبا. على بعد عدة كيلو مترات من المكان الحالي كانت هناك. كعبة ((. ابرا الحميري )) وليس ابراهيم الخليل بحثك مبارك وعين ملك الملوك ترعاك المسيا الملك. سعيد بما تقوله وتحقق فيه وانت بعينه التوقيع عنه. .. . فم الله

[@sufianbinahmadsarom]

Dont lose the blue shirt.

[@ziarehman4421]

Thank you for your understanding of Islamic history of black stone, I like you to look for Arabic term , Hajra e aswad ( in Sanskrit/ Hindi language from India, it means white stone ) also looking Two nouns form Islam terms, Rab and Allah, are also Indian kings name as Bhagwan/ gods . My understanding is Islam is pagan hindu religion, worshiping of Ram , Ram’s son Lah , worship of many idols, like moon ( Lah ) , sun ( Ra) , there is lot more information to confirm, when we read Islam Quran that todays Islam is modified in city Bukhara , Uzbekistan 🇺🇿 about 1100 years ago .

[@roukayajannah5111]

At time 12:42, This is not Masjid al-Haram! Those Big Rocks are not marking the sacred area of Masjid al-Haram! … you lie too much! Those bocks are called ‘’Djinn Blocks’’ and you know it! The Djinn Blocks are massive sandstone blocks, carved into various shapes and sizes. These blocks were used as tombs and were carved by the Nabateans (not Muslims!) over 2,000 years ago. These blocks are related to funeral sites not Masjid al-Haram! Please be honest!

[@DanGibsonFilms]

Today the rocks in Petra and known as Djinn Blocks. This is a name given to them in the last few hundred years. The original name of these rocks are not known. However, they were carved by Nabataeans and placed around the city at every entrance. (between them were high mountains and cliffs.) The center of Petra, since early Nabataean times has been a sacred sanctuary from pre-Islamic times. There is no hint that Muslims set up the boundary stones. They were there, and part of pre-Islamic worship. The blocks were not used as tombs. Most are just blocks. A couple of them had a shallow tomb spot that were used later. All over the Middle East, people were buried in places where there were previous burials. There are many WWI and WWII burials of Arabs throughout the Middle East, buried in ancient graveyards or at the spot of Roman buildings. I am trying to be very honest here. I visited Petra over 60 times, and spoke to many historians and archaeologists working there. Since over 60 mosques from the first two centuries of Islam faced Petra, I assume that it was the original Majid al Haram.

[@roukayajannah5111]

@@DanGibsonFilms You confuse Masjid al-Haram and Haram area (or Al-Haram al-Makki). Masjid al-Haram is built in the Haram area. In the Haram area you can also build roads, streets, houses but you can’t build these in the Masjid al-Haram because it’s a place of worship only. So, at time 12:37, when you say ‘’this is Masjid al-Haram’’ showing the Big Blocks, this is wrong! Maybe the Djinn Blocks are not tombs or funeral sites but the Big Blocks in Petra are not place to mark down the sacred area. They are carved by pagans near rock natural structure only. What’s the need of 3 Big blocks at the same place, on the pic you show? No need to put effort to carve 3 blocks on the same spot to mark a place. For Haram area, in all boundaries there is only one monument to mark one boundary. 60 mosques face Petra from the first two centuries? This is because you stop the lines at Petra but many are only pointing South, also because you classified early mosques from Arabia as unknown, etc… This is not fair. During the time of the prophet Muhammad, Makkah was near Taif and Jeddah. This is not the case for Petra.

[@AI-neuron]

Dearest Dan. Ptolemy's geographic map's isn't good. Yes, 'wadis or vadis' in dessert is a rivers. Thousand years in past. More a waters. We a the ring and rain sing a song's. True history is very hard. Everything is changed in future time. Ishmaelite stolen a stone. Broken stones. The Ishmaelites stole the stone and returned the broken one. It was a gift for the rebuilt temple in the former settlement of Mochura, now the city of Mecca. A residential settlement in the style of tents of desert nomads living outdoors under the stars of the sky. The stars showed them which direction to go. They did not know the astrolabe and the sextant. They knew the stars and read from the stars. Shepherds herds of camels and horses, and sheep and sheep were the main meat consumed. Ships from the port of Beronica arrived at the port of Jambia. Gold myrrh and frankincense. Old storylines from history.

[@markusgorelli5278]

[2.164] Most surely in the creation of the heavens and the earth and the alternation of the night and the day, and *the ships that run in the sea with that which profits men,* and the water that Allah sends down from the ...

[@jma7600]

This confirms that we are dealing with paganism that somehow became Islam.

[@almazchati4178]

You mean like Baal, Al, Yahova and his wife?

[@jma7600]

@@almazchati4178 Not quite! I meant a religion that needs a Kaaba and a black stone to worship their god.

[@almazchati4178]

@@jma7600 Not quite, black stone is just a marker, have no other significance. Muslims have communal prayers. They turn to Kaaba, or intend to do so, as it was the the first structure built for the one and only God. They are honoring Abraham, and announcing in their prayers that there is no god but Allah. You are in delusion if you think that there is another purpose.

[@jma7600]

@@almazchati4178 If you believe that Abraham has anything to do with the Kaaba or Mecca then there’s no need to continue this conversation.

[@almazchati4178]

@@jma7600 You have the right to stay ignorant. Yes, Abraham was not Jewish, he had other things to do other than prostituting his wife Sara. Look at your Bible. Arabs are descendants of Abraham through Ishmael. I think all biblical genealogies are a piece of crap of magic 14 ancestors since the flood, which is another piece of crap. Yes, Arabs are original Semitic people, and do not have a mother like Sara.

[@TheProphetofLogic]

الله عالمي. لا يوجد دين عالمي. الإله العالمي ليس دينيًا. الدين قسمة. الله واحد. الشيطان انشقاقات. الله هو الوحدة. الدين يفصل الناس عن بعضهم البعض ويخلق أعداء بين الأمم. الله هو الحب والتعاطف والرحمة. الدين هو العنف والقتل. الله يرحمه ويشفيه. الدين هو السيطرة والحبس والاستعباد. الله هو إنجازات الشخصية التطور، والحرية. الدين هو الركود الفكري. الله هو نمو لا نهاية له. الدين هو بديل مصطنع وسطحي للروحانية الحقيقية. الروحانية الحقيقية هي ببساطة وجود علاقة شخصية مباشرة مع الله. aallah ealami. la yujad din ealami. al'iilah alealamiu lays dynyan. aldiyn qasmatun. allah wahidi. alshaytan anshiqaqatun. aallah hu alwahdatu. aldiyn yufasil alnaas ean baedihim albaed wayakhluq 'aeda'an bayn al'ummi. aallah hu alhubu waltaeatuf walrahmatu. aldiyn hu aleunf walqatla. allah yarhamuh wayashfihi. aldiyn hu alsaytarat walhabs waliastiebadi. aallah hu 'iinjazat alshakhsiat altatawuru, walhuriyatu. aldiyn hu alrukud alfikri. allah hu numuun la nihayat lah. aldiyn hu badil mustanae wasathiun lilruwhaniat alhaqiqiati. alrawhaniat alhaqiqiat hi bibasatat wujud ealaqat shakhsiat mubashirat mae allahi.

[@khaledbalkin]

Your hypothesis suggests that Ibn al-Zubayr had left Petra, the presumed location of the Sanctuary. Bar Penkaye's testimony, however, indicates that he went to the place where the Sanctuary stands. Furthermore, you've asserted a date (689 AD=70 AH) that is nowhere to be found in Bar Penkaye's book. Isn't it time to give up on the whole thing?

[@DanGibsonFilms]

I am sure that in the Saudi Mecca location there was a well used by passing people, and that there were some pre-Islamic places of worship there. It would be a natural place to retreat to until the war with Damascus was over. Penkaye is not proof, he is just one more small indicator that Zubayer went south down to Mecca.

[@roukayajannah5111]

@@khaledbalkin Zubayr went down to Makkah but not from Petra because he was living in Madinah. Why he went down to Makkah? to avoid being forced to acknowledge Yazid as the successor of Mu'awiya, Ibn Zubayr fled from Madinah to Makkah. He went to Makkah before the siege of Makkah in 683 where the Kaaba was hit by fire. After Zubayr demolished the Kaaba and rebuilt it.This is historical facts! Zubayr was born in Madinah in 624. He was the first child born to the Muhajirun, the earliest converts to Islam who had been exiled from Makkah to Madinah.

[@roukayajannah5111]

@@khaledbalkin Here's a text in Arabic confirming where he was born: كان أول من ولد من المهاجرين في المدينة المنورة بعد الهجرة.. ولد في قباء في شوال سنة 1 هـ .. فمن هو ؟! أنه (عبد الله بن الزبير بن العوام) - رضي الله عنهما - ابن الصحابي الجليل الزبير بن العوام - رضي الله عنه - وأمه السيدة أسماء بنت أبي بكر الصديق - رضي الله عنهما - الملقبة بذات النطاقين. كان (عبد الله بن الزبير) ينتمي إلى أسرة مكية من بني عبد العزي بن قصي. ولد (عبد الله) في قباء في شوال سنة 1 هـ، وكانت أمه أسماء قد خرجت من مكة مهاجرة، وهي حاملا به.

[@almazchati4178]

Here comes the kiblah man. Today, I prayed on a moving bus, I think he will qualify me as a withness that the driver of the bus is a reincarnation of Kabeh.

[@TheMfbs17]

David king

[@You.are.boring.me.now2024]

Dan Gibson has responded to issues raised by David King, what's your point ?

[@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694]

Atheist Arab here. Your claims about Petra being the location of the original Kaaba around which Muhammad preached, lacks credibility on many fronts: The history of Muhammad’s battles, visits and treaties match the names of places confirmed to be in and around Mecca and Medina like Taif, Khaibar, Bani Quraitha etc. Also Abdul Malik could have easily moved the black stone back to Petra and destroyed the Kabba in Mecca for ever. All religions are man made, but to falsify history with nonsense is a waste of time and energy. Attention should be focused on exposing the man made nature of religion.

[@arablight363]

You are taking this from documents written 100-300 years after the time of Mohammad. We don't have any credible historical sources about Mohammad battling around Mecca or Medina. Dan's theory is the best explanation about the newly invented Kaaba in Mecca.

[@roukayajannah5111]

The problem with Dan Gibson is he believes prophet Muhammad is Nabatean and all Nabatean are born in only one city, Petra. It same as if we believe all Americans ware born in New-York. Or all Canadians are born in Ottawa. Nabatean are good travelers, they established in many regions. Like Ibn Zubayr was born in Madinah not Petra. Gibson can’t prove that Zubayr is from Petra. He doesn’t want to bring his biography.

[@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694]

@@arablight363 Yes I know the Seerah and Hadeeth were written 200-300 years after Mohammad’s death, and I know they are full of myths and legends but the collective narrative takes place in Meccan and Medina, and that locality is not disputed by any Muslim scholar or historian from any sect despite their deep divides.. An entire nation cannot just move their history from one location to another without leaving trace evidence for and in the original place. That’s not the case here. Your fascination with Gibson’s theory is blocking basic reasoning. There are GRAVES, MOUNTAINS, TOWNS, Terrains that support confirm Mecca. Again, if what Dan says is true, the Umayyad’s would not leave the capital of their staunch enemy rebel as the religious capital of Islam. In fact, you would see evidence of them trying to switch Mecca to somewhere else (maybe Petra 😉) to erase any legacy for Abdullah Ibn Al-Zubair. Once again analyze, don’t just accept what ‘feels’ right. If you choose to reply, engage in debating the details I mentioned, not just say.. oh their history is ALL made up, but Dan Gibson knows the truth. BTW- there are two movements trying to show the ISRAELITES originated and lived in 1) Yemen 2) Ethiopia not Palestine. These theories fall apart because the OT is full of detailed mentions of Palestinian cities, villages and events. Yes many are mythical events and some city names are more recent than the alleged event, but this still shows they were making stories up around places in their ancestral homes. (Modern Palestinians also descend from ancient Israelites and other Canaanites.. Yes many Israelites converted to Christianity and Islam over time).

[@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694]

@@roukayajannah5111 Gibson’s thin theory is riddled with holes the size of craters. That doesn’t make Islam (or any other religion) from ‘up above’..

[@RabbiMalahkYah]

​@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694 do you agree that muhammad was a false prophet? & mecca is not on any map of that era or before & there never was any caravan of camels that traded ,as it is known that ships were used ,which is obviously more convenient & safer .

[@KetanJadhav-r9j]

Jesus is budhist monk min's samanian 🙁

[@KetanJadhav-r9j]

I think makka place stupa budhisme 🙁

[@xavierbesnard9201]

Another brick to comfort the idea !

[@roukayajannah5111]

Penkaye is not accurate in his narrative. There is no date, no name of city, he even doesn’t know Petra or Makkah or Madina. He just wrote that Zubayr went sought … Where he got his informations??? He never talked to Zubayr!

[@DanGibsonFilms]

I agree that he does not have many details. It is interesting however, that he picks up on three things that happened. Zubayer is defending the House of God, Zubayer moves south, and the Ka'ba was burned (and rebuilt.) This was the information circulating at the time that these events were taking place.

[@roukayajannah5111]

@@DanGibsonFilms Ibn Zubayr move South, here’s the story … Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr was born in Madinah in 624. Ibn al-Zubayr was the first child born to the Muhajirun, the earliest converts to Islam who had been exiled from Makkah to Madinah. So Ibn Zubayr is from Madinah, if he moves South he moves to Makkah. In fact, to avoid being forced to acknowledge Yazid as the successor of Mu'awiya, Ibn Zubayr fled from Madinah to Makkah. Petra is not on the way!

[@roukayajannah5111]

@@DanGibsonFilms Yes, the Kaaba burned. Here’s some other interesting details that didn’t reached Penkaye … During the siege of Makkah in 683, the original building of the Kaaba from the time of the prophet Muhammad had been damaged a lot by fire during the attack. So, Ibn al-Zubayr demolish it and rebuilt it by changing its form. He modified the ‘’square’’ plan to a ‘’rectangle’’ plan to include the part where is the Hatim that he demolished, following a tradition that the prophet Muhammad had wished to do so. Yes, the shape of the Kaaba switched square to rectangle, a bigger building! But it didn’t stay long. After the second siege of Makkah in 692, on the orders of Abd al-Malik, Hajjaj demolished the rectangular Kaaba and rebuilt a square Kaaba and also rebuilt the hatim where it was before as to its original plan from Muhammad's time. The Kaaba survives in the square form till today. In short … In 683, Zubayr rebuilt the Kaaba changing the square Kaaba into a rectangle Kaaba. In 692, Hajjaj rebuilt the Kaaba changing the rectangle Kaaba into a new square Kaaba. So we can’t say that the Kaaba shape today in Makkah Saudi Arabia is the one designed by Zubayr. Is it enough clear to you now?

[@KetanJadhav-r9j]

Petra is cave samanian

[@hja.nenengtiamwat6070]

Never be a doubter of the Qur-an

[@rogerayoub8974]

لقد بنيت ابحاثك استنادا الى باتريسيا كراون و لكنها قد تحتمل الخطئ. يوجد ثلاثمائة عام أشباح من التاريخ العربي و إلامر يحتاج إلى مخطوطات حاسمة. لذلك نظرية محمد البتراء تنقصها أمور كثيرة مثلا لماذا البتراء و ليس القدس عاصمة الخلافة الأموية. يحتمل التالي : محمد صناعة خرافات عباسية الإسلام صناعة هارون الرشيد والأخطر هو كل ما موجود من وثائق حالية متلاعب بها. و اخيرا اهنئك على تلك النظرية ولكنها تحتاج إلى ظهور مخطوطات أثرية للحسم

[@umairahmed7704]

It's interesting that the Makkah according to you was Petra but the area nearby Petra was conquered by Muslim armies much later than current Makkah and Medina and Taif and Khyber and the whole of Yemen. Stop fabricating the things, nothing follows as you claim. A Muslim army going to conquer Medina, Khyber before Jerusalem, Damascus and Cairo in that condition shouldn't have happened in the first place.

[@lautbry]

Patricia Crone proved that there were no muslim prior 750 AD just arab christian.

[@DanGibsonFilms]

@@lautbry Dr. Crone suggested there were no Muslims, and I agree with her. Muhammad came preaching Hanafiya. Early Muslims were known as following the Hanafiya, and did not become known as Muslims until later. Please read Let The Stones Speak. It is free to download.

[@DM5550Z]

Elaborate

[@amuthi1]

You said "a muslim army going to conquer Medina". Please specify that!

[@umairahmed7704]

@@DanGibsonFilms there were no Christians until Nicaea 325 AD.

[@hja.nenengtiamwat6070]

No need to discuss about the true name of jesus. Qur-an was sent down wd truth. He is the ever witness of everything, cause He is the one created us & the universe. So if u are looking for the truth , open the Qur-an. Right?

[@zakmousli3398]

Dan, read your bible first before you declare your self know something, the Kaaba was in Macca way before Muhammad - “5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you, whose hearts are set on pilgrimage. 6 As they pass through the Valley of Baka, they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools.” Psalm 84. Baka was the old name of Macca. The Kaaba was built by Abram (Ibrahim)

[@amuthi1]

Says nothing about the placing of "Baka".

[@zakmousli3398]

Baka is Macca, we know where Macca is. Macca used to be called Baka and both names are written in the Quran 3:96 @@amuthi1

[@amuthi1]

​@@zakmousli3398 Where does Quram 3:96 say that the House is located? I can't read anything specific.

[@zakmousli3398]

@@amuthi1 3:96) Behold, the first House (of Prayer) established for mankind is the one at Bakkah: it is full of blessing and a centre of guidance for the whole world. (3:97) In it there are clear signs and the station of Abraham;80 whoever enters it becomes secure.

[@speech1889]

You are painting a donkey and try to sell it as a zebra.

[@MalikDeenar-x8w]

Ridiculous claim by the author.......

[@muhammadluthfanputehsitoru6316]

Anda itu buta,dan tidak benar memberitakan sesuatu, anda tau tapi anda tidak mau mengakuinya,itulah anda dan,coba cari jangan cuma dari buku² orang kristen atau yahudi saja,coba cari dari Islam itu sendiri,cocok kan dengan apa yang tertulis di buku sejarah kristen dan yahudi,jgn cari perbedaan,tapi cari kesamaannya,dan anda akan menemukan kebenaran

[@laylatigreal7510]

Scam.. he is not even a researcher..

[@PsssttstttSstt-qw1my]

he is actualty an amateur researcher that makes things up and is rejected by professional researchers 😅

[@KumaraXSurangax]

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[@miikaaxdemxa1053]

The prophet pbuh made hijra from Maka to medina took 3 days. Impossible to walk from petra to medina in 3 day. Petra cannot be meka.

[@markusgorelli5278]

Doesn't the word "Medina" simply mean "city"? 28:18 And he became inside the city (l-madīnati الْمَدِينَةِ ) fearful and anticipating [exposure], when suddenly the one who sought his help the previous day cried out to him [once again]. Moses said to him, "Indeed, you are an evident, [persistent] deviator." 9:120 It was not [proper] for the people of Madinah (l-madīnati الْمَدِينَةِ ) and those surrounding them of the bedouins that they remain behind after [the departure of] the Messenger of Allah or that they prefer themselves over his self.... Unless you want to propose that Medina of 9:120 is in Egypt (or the "The People of The City" is an oblique reference to Egyptians) and talking about Moses the Messenger of Allah, then you need to consider that Medina might be somewhere else that is within a 3 day walk. Because if walking from modern day Medina to Petra in 3 days is impossible, how do you explain that you can pass the ruins of the city of Lot in the morning and at night (37.133-138)?

[@msemakweli-wk3lg]

But Makka to Jerusalem in one night is possible?

[@mahmoudaly9895]

8 days

[@PsssttstttSstt-qw1my]

you know why petra is in the bible ? why is the only religion that has a prophet being send to petra ( prophet salih) is islam. becouse islam solves the mystery. its not muhammed who was send to petra but it was prophet salih and propaply other prophets as well. we muslims understand this and we know prophets have been send to many places . but you christians are confused why bible contains petra. you have the name petra but you dont know the story so you are confused what petra is doing in bible.😂😂😂😂

[@user-1k2k3k4k5k]

Have u ever readed his books

[@user-1k2k3k4k5k]

Actually u Muslims and your history are confusing

[@KumaraXSurangax]

Bs