Daniel Ingram: Psychedelics, Meditation & Enlightenment

[@chrisman5493]

35:34 "You're rewriting code while the operating system is still running", Damn. As a computer science major, that metaphor was especially strong

[@muzzletov]

from a comp sc major i wouldve expected to point out the fallacy with this analogy, rather than just acknowledging it

[@TomDavidMcCauley]

@@muzzletov why?

[@dudecctv]

Totally awesome. Thank you to both of you.

[@Recuerdaclub]

si por casualidad llegaste a este podcast, ponle subtitulos y mandatelo directo a la mitocondria.... aqui hay sabiduría espiritual y psicodelica nivel 8000, gracias daniel!!!!

[@paulgoddard5535]

Only at 2:39, but that MMA metaphor is simply the best. That's the way to go!!!!

[@Sprite_525]

I thought this forever too! Get the cloistered traditions to prove themselves outside their bubbles

[@Krasbin]

Mixed Mental Arts, that's a nice term.

[@MrDenyven]

Came to the comments to say this and what do you know, someone else agrees :)

[@paulgoddard5535]

@@Krasbin Ha! Yes!

[@dougamburgey5770]

Meditation takes much and is challenging but if you are strong in meditation the changes last whereas psychedelics are a quick and easy change but it goes away.

[@harrisonshields7084]

I think this phenomenon is what has inspired the modern emphasis on integration, though. We noticed that it tends to go away, so we have begun building techniques to embody what we’ve learned and turn them into real world practices which we can bring with us to build a better life and better world. I completely agree with you on the meditation side.

[@adventuresinawareness]

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[@dougamburgey5770]

I've heard alot of bs saying there's no right way to meditate. There's definitely right ways to meditate which truly affects the degree to which you get experiences.

[@lucbriedecooper]

I mean there's different meditation paths that have a particular technique and order to what you're doing and if you play around with what you're doing it can take away progress. So yea there's the right way to meditate within a particular practise of meditation. JUST doing anapana would be hilarious to a Vipassana meditator where anapana is a tool to strengthen your vipassana. Like you only do anapana?? But maybe their goal is to concentrate their focus in which case anapana will do that

[@AlbertKingboss]

This guy is fucking amazing! Thank you so much for the interview!

[@Lizarus.un-sane]

@23:12… yes.. everytime I shift I get a new bran pattern .. I’m gamma dominant in idle now..

[@Fakery]

Hey Daniel, was it Leo Gura you were thinking of, the enlightened dmt master cautionary tale? Could you help us understand his misstep and how we can be more perceptive of that type of error?

[@chillwp179]

Bro get over it, focus on your own path, you are consumed with talking about others it will get you no where fast on the spiritual path

[@Fakery]

@@chillwp179 You picked up a lot from a short comment! Will you please tell me more about myself and my path?

[@feelsokayman3959]

Why are you so obsessed with Leo Gura (and other enlightenment people on youtube)? What the hell did the guy do to you? not tryna be rude but i really dont understand what your problem is man

[@Fakery]

@@feelsokayman3959 how do you determine I have an obsession?

[@feelsokayman3959]

@@Fakery By looking at your channel and these kinds of comments, it's quite obvious.

[@snudgegalbraith3447]

Im always meditating on my own Today i ate a full toblerone During a sesshin i was shown But now its gone like the wind blown

[@gxlorp]

Let me clarify. Did you just explain to us on a psychedelic video that you ate a toblerone? Like Stewie Griffin.

[@feelsokayman3959]

What does Daniel mean by "arising and passing away"? Please help me if you know 🙏

[@adventuresinawareness]

Check out page 203 in his book, Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha static1.squarespace.com/static/5037f52d84ae1e87f694cfda/t/5ffd1727eb14ac3b416c6889/1610422062492/MCTB2+Complete+PDF+Final+copy.pdf

[@gxlorp]

Read the book ya dunce

[@feelsokayman3959]

@@gxlorp ❤️

[@trentw.3566]

Daniel makes enlightenment seem like a hellscape. Read his book....many people criticize Daniel's interpretation of the stages of insight. He is pretty interesting to listen to, and I think he's achieved a lot in meditation...but not sure about full enlightenment for any human being.

[@upgrade1015]

We need a ufc of magic and FYI jiujitsu At that time rose to the top… The absolute top

[@koistya]

Do you know by any chance whether supplementing with micro doses of psy. can help or hinder ones natural ability in reaching altered states of consciousness (ASCs) through concentration meditation? 🧘 (attaining 1-8 Jhanas in Bhudist terminology)

[@adventuresinawareness]

Hi Konstantin - You can check out 32 mins in, Daniel talks about micro-dosing. I'm not familiar with any studies looking at this particular topic, but lets hope things move in that direction. Meanwhile, you may find this article useful: psychedelicsociety.org.uk/news/psychedelics-meditation-amp-enlightenment-part-2

[@trentw.3566]

There are things you can do to make the Piti come on stronger. I don't think psychedelics are going to boost that in a predictable way. Just devour books on jhana. Take a long time in access concentration for a bigger blast of Piti. Maybe look into energetic practices...

[@alexandria5758]

Is Daniel Ingram familiar with Jeffrey Martins research and his finders book & course?

[@adventuresinawareness]

Yes, he is familiar with his work, and was, in fact, one of his early research subjects. My understanding is that Daniel feels that the same techniques Jeffrey uses can be found for free online in many places and has some questions about his scientific methodologies and conclusions, generally preferring a more multidimensional approach to modelling development along various axes. (For disclosure, I've participated in and been a facilitator on the Finders Course)

[@dougamburgey5770]

Certainly we need more science on this stuff. I don't think it wise to shut these tools off in any way. For me I've had nothing but great things happen to me. This world is definetely more wierd than some of us are ready for but yeah you should do research before doing them because spirituality and psychedelics are no everday path.

[@mattrkelly]

I really feel like anything called buddhism shouldn't advocate any drug.... you just never know who you're talking to. There is too much to be lost in someone losing brain function, getting into other drugs, causing harm to others. Of course there can be benefit, but for the most part psychedelics are used for a peak experience and then getting back to work... getting HIGH!

[@jonm9147]

Did you not watch the video

[@Hermit_mouse]

Ok... first things first here. What are you doing with your coffee

[@lilimax555]

Too much

[@pragmaticalobserver2517]

This was horrible. Dude all over the place. Thousand times saying the same thing but with different words without any coherence. Had to stop listening or I was ready for mental institution.

[@lilimax555]

Ain't that the truth.

[@markszpak]

Yes, just realized the energetic tell. The medium is non-stop consciousness-skandha - the story-telling consciousness - and that's the message being conveyed. Needs even an itty bitty shared gap, relax ...

[@dicsoncandra1948]

except he's not enlightened in the Buddhist sense... without any ill will that i'm saying this, no arhat is liable to passion, aversion and delusion while daniel ingram experiences anger, engage in sexual intercourse, proud (conceit) of having a 'dr.' title from completing his phd and sells the 'dhamma' for money. he can claim to have experienced profound meditative states and so on which exist before the Buddha but in no way can his being be considered a Buddhist enlightenment, and not even a sotapanna (first stage of four) since according to the suttas he would have 'wrong view'

[@gxlorp]

Hes only makes money from medicine. All proceeds from book go to meditation research. Hes retired now and works a full time unpaid job for the eprc.

[@user-fg3fv9hl3b]

I think you and I should both be careful about being too certain of these things until we reach any of the stages of enlightenment and can verify it for ourselves

[@dicsoncandra1948]

@@user-fg3fv9hl3b I honestly don't obsess with the comments i posted long ago although to determine whether one is an arahant or not is not that difficult given some of the things he wrote were direct opposite to the Buddha's (supposedly) without clear reasoning (either moral or rational)

[@TrojansFirst]

@@dicsoncandra1948 yeah he’s in it for the money. We all want the comfort, freedom and security that money can give.

[@psyche1468]

@@dicsoncandra1948 buddha says only an arhant can decide and tell if the other is arhant or not. so we certainly got no say here.