Phenemonal discussion. Thank you for sharing your minds

Can anyone put me in touch with Rick the therapist who speaks towards the end of the presentation? 🙏🏼🩵

Thank you for the “bijdragen” to our understanding 🙏🏼🩵

This is the most elegant concept I’ve heard since Rupert Spira’s description of non-duality. What a revelation! Suddenly everything falls into place from the logical point of view (for me purely experiential somehow was never enough, I was craving an additional explanation, like a second form of ID).

Bernardo, I watch your videos when I’m depressed and it helps me. It also helps me fall asleep. I will be pursuing a degree in philosophy this fall. Thanks for inspiring so many of us.

The key to man's success in all things is symbiosis, competition is good in sports not in running a society, it leads to waste of resources.

At about the 45 minute mark when they are discussing emergence, and the issue of whether goal directedness is binary or not, Bernardo was taking the binary point of view, yes or no. If what they are discussing is binary, as per Bernardo‘s position, then, there is a different quality to the emergence required than if the spectrum is continuous as Michael argues.

To what degree an individual is attuned to how really complex this existence is. Is what opens frequencies to higher intelligence? Like what exactly is CMB and its purpose to be constantly there? Is it the signal of GOD's will keeping the universe functioning? Also why is a McDonalds meal $18 dollars now?

GOD is Consciousness and Energy without that you're not a being. That's why a computer will always be a machine. A brain has blood flow for oxygen cause it's alive paired to a conscious. A computer is a glorified number cruncher that follows parameters set for it, sorting no thinking involved. The thinking was done for it by the human programmer as it was loaded. So if the energy only created computer does evil murderous deeds the programmer should be charged and punished. Man was made in the image and likeness of GOD. Who said it meant the human body that decays away at death? I think it meant consciousness and energy, a soul, which every living entity has!! Thank you GOD for the opportunity.

Thank you ❤🌹🙏

Having dipped into plant medicines, my world has flipped a couple times to ultimately arrive at what these 2 men are saying. Materialism is literally dead. The perennial wisdom is oriented towards the truth which is life. It's the answer of answers. I hope to be as articulate and knowledgeable as these brilliant minds.

My big TOE. Tom Campbell

Thank you everyone for sharing your time and work, very nice, peace

About time: whether it exists or not depends on your defintion of it. Defining it is already a challenge on its own. But in any way i can define it: it just doesn't exist. And once you see that, you cannot unsee it anymore. You realize that you never experienced any other moment than 'now'. Everything remains in 'now', but in a constant state of change. I experience my own body in a constant state of change, but the different stages of it are not being left behind in the past. The version of me 5 years ago only exists in my memory, and can only be recalled now.

Mind-blowing

I love them both ❤️

Why TV don't talk about?

A good one!

i've heard some bullcrap in my life , but this guy just will have the crown For Ever , no evidence WHAT SO EVER , getting DESTROYED in ACTUAL debates about the subject but not seeming to care , no thanks he's spouting SO MUCH NONSENSE , there isn't a container in the world for this guy , you would think , but we DO have one , it' called SCIENCE , ACTUAL SCIENCE , convincing the consensus , which is a BIT difficult , when the CONSESNSUS itself goes AGAINST EVERYTHING THIS GUY SAYS , and i DO MEAN EVERYTHING ... there IS NO LINK from consciousness being an objective field in nature , to OUR consciousness which is EMERGENT as a property of the brain , those two things WILL NEVER be the same NOR LINKED to each other , THAT's THE RIDICULOUS PART OF HIS HYPOTHESIS WITHOUT EVIDENCE , that's the WRONG WAY to think about things and he's BEEN TOLD THIS MANY TIMES , HE JUST WON'T LISTEN !!!! he is , and this is the MOST appropriate statement i can give this guy , >>> SQUARING A PORK CHOP <<< , but the pork chop .... IS IN HIS MIND , not on the table , JUST in his mind he MADE UP a pork chop and now he's squaring it , like it's actually ON THE TABLE , and people just stand there , smile at him and TAG ON to the DELUSION , the world ain't a delusion , but this guy want to MAKE A DELUSION OUT OF IT TO MAKE HIMSELF FEEL BETTER , that's called LYING TO YOURSELF , he might as well make Another religion out of it

Bernardo is still making a bright-line distinction between being and non-being, which surprises me.

I think Michael has one of the most open minds I've ever seen, and people often miss it because they interpret what he says with much more restricted concepts of things like "biology" - which doesn't need to be constrained to Earth-style biology just because that's the only one we currently perceive. Our senses are limited exactly by this biology, and so is our science.

I’m your biggest fan everything you say is great. I think you’re fantastic Bernardo. With that being said, I can’t listen to more than three minutes of you talking in English. You need to get some kind of a speech coach or therapist. You sound like you’re whining nonstop. It comes I think from your Brazilian background. It sounds nice in Portuguese but in English it’s very whiny.

Universe is a mind????Explain. It's all well and good rubbishing theories you don't agree with, but I haven't heard anything coherent which explains your beliefs.

Christianity is a fake religion!

Excellent discussion! Who was the writer that should be read "by millions"? Patrick H...? Could hear it accurately enough. Thanks!

Ever notice the common theme of all of these “enlightened” people’s belief systems? In every case there is no accountability to anyone but themselves (yourself). Thus: no “Right & Wrong”, “ no “Good or Evil”, No “god” but themselves, thus they alone define “Truth.” _Idjets_ .

The consciousness as per Hindu scriptures is beyond physical.... Any physics could understand only physical. The experiences and associated its memory, etc incliding mind, jntelligence and ego (identity) are all material. So that which is beyond all the physical is conscious but still all physicals (anything that is perceptible, its nature everything is only material) are just body of that Consciousness. All that wax and wane are all material. That which doesn't change its nature is athman (or the consciousness

I just end up laughing how much this stuff blows my mind. What is there to say?!

1:12' is it a matter of difficullty, to experience POV of liver, or other part of our organism, or is it a logical contradiction, in the sense that you having a certain POV is what makes you yourself, if you had POV of something else, then this something else's qualitative experience would be yours...

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how does spirituality co exist with evolution mind and consciousness

Really enjoyed this, two great minds and some fab questions too!

I am a 78 yr young man in Texas, retired EE. On March 31st, '94, my wife passed away while I held her hand, just the two of us. It had been a long night, and at dawn she took her last breath. Just before, her last words were "I see god, I am god." At that same moment I felt myself drawn by her loving eyes looking into mine, into a place that was not space or time, just a sense of pure divine love. I experienced an epiphany that changed me permanently in many ways. About a year later I was sound asleep in the bed we had shared (married 25 years), asleep on my back, when all of a sudden right at dawn I had a flash like a marquee in my mind, "_______ baby is Shirley" (my wife). Her good friend was pregnant and expecting very soon. I felt a lightning bolt go through me, and sat up in bed like something had propelled me. Days later I asked to be the godfather to that baby, and her mother gladly agreed. I have always felt the baby, now a successful adult nearing 30, was my wife's reincarnation. In fact she has so many characteristics which I won't enumerate here. Having said all this, I embarked on what now has been a 30 year spiritual journey, to the point today where I am convinced there is a universal consciousness, and when we are conceived, that UC enters the biological embryo, and is with us until our corporeal "death." I am also a firm believer that we have no self, we have no "I" and that as Mahayana Buddhism does teach, we simply impute our "self" upon the experiences created by our senses. We exist only in the minds of others who perceive us and impute our existence. When our body dies, we exist only as memories or as records of what we "were." I now also believe we and all life and all of the universe(s) only have meaning in providing experiences of every kind to the the UC. We "are" here to collect data for the UC, which continues to expand itself in ways we never ever will come to understand.

Bernardo reminds me very much of Heinz von Foerster, who was also a computer scientist and a philosophor. He tried to explain the birth of the world through selfreference. He was a radical constructivist, who wasn't radical enough, because believing everything were the result of selfreferential mathematics, he excluded nervous systems, which should do the mathematics to produce socalled "Eigenwerte", Eigenstructures and so on. But without nervous systems everything comes out of nothing, another name for pure consciousness or Brahma. Thank you for this mind-blowing video!

I like how Rubert ask to remove everything yet he keeps his glasses although his eyes are closed .

"Darkness (or Void) can potentially be everything" is one of the best quotes that I bring out from this beautiful conversation.

I really have to suppress my desire to evaluate this conversation as it feels it would kill the richness of its content. However I need to express my thanks to all of you for sharing this and making us aware. The seemingly lightfooted, while really deep and pragmatic approach of Mr.'s Harpur and Kastrup to deal with ambition in a humble fashion is examplary. Wonderfully inspirational. Thx again. ❤

The person at 1:32 ish: I so relate! I first felt it as a teenager I think, a "cosmic belonging", and as an adult I believe it can be the "absenceof restricted thinking and beliefs". It is the calm being that we are without the thoughts stirring. To access this seems a bit random though but I recognize your description ❤

Buddha at the Gas Pump, you would love the channel!

I was brought here through my "religious" background and interest in Rupert's teachings. I am very sceptical of scientists, until Bernardo began describing his personal/spiritual experiences as a replica of my own 🤯

Time is simultaneously the quantum and an aspect of the quantum. The time we are able to perceive as individual entities is a part of the quantum that we are able to understand with our individual perception. The quantum is both timeless and infinite. It’s confusing if you try to understand it as a whole. That is why we go through different experiences with time. Time is a perspective, a measurement, an aspect. Time is also quantum.

I love hearing all of these ideas and many resonate with me . I do get the feeling we'll never all agree on everything, otherwise life would be extremely boring

He talks and talks but doesn’t explain what experience he had to change his mind…😀

Dearest seeker WhispersPresence In stillness, you’ll know Which quests to say yes to Which truths to attest to And which trials- Even though some are certain to best you- You must not forego If, indeed, you are a seeker Seeking treasure Of immeasurable worth The Deep Magic Well hidden Access forbidden Except through the rhythms Of Flow from Flow’s Manifesto

The most enriching podcast I have ever seen on youtube!

I have had anomalous experiences that i cant explain. This conversation helped me understand that it can have been both real and unreal, which surprisingly makes a lot of sense.

~ Hi. The child within us that never grows up and how we manage its nature being exposed and reintegrated. Something like that.

Really a very elaborate explanation of Consciousness 🙏❤️

I can't get enough of your channel, super happy to have found it.

Big bang is just an useful fiction. Oh, by the way, you may also want to listen to my personal useless fiction.