I would love to see videos of your mixing of some of these convenience colours, such as the Undersea Green and Sap green. I have always wondered if there is any difference at all in making them ourselves or using the colour premade.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
I'll add it to the list of videos to make in the future ☺️
@michemman2 жыл бұрын
Howdy Jay, So, Jane is a friend of mine here in Sydney. I go to her house to share pigments to swatch together. I did a few workshops with her, the one I recall, she showed us how to use Goethite (easily liftable) to make a sandstone building colour which is what most older homes in Sydney are made onto or with, in the Royal Botanic gardens. When the Goethite is dry, Jane used Jane's Grey as a neutral tint glazed shape over the shadow parts of the building. (also liftable). Jane describes the mix as slightly bluer as a 60/40 mix , so as you say it is versatile, just like bluer Payne's Greys that you love Jay, except those pigments are usually not liftable, likewise a lot of neutral tints are also staining. This is the main reason I believe, for the colour to be manufactured and named. Jane also has a black that is called Quin Rose and Phthalo Green. Any of her three books are well worth investing in, as colour theory swatches to rely on. Her latest book has triads, and sample paintings with each triad. The colour of Goethite and Indian Red look different on the computer monitor compared to real life. In kindred spirit, Eliza Dulwich Hill, Sydney Australia 15th of April 2022, 6:10pm
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Hi Eliza. Thanks for the information 🙏 Jane's books do look good. I love looking at the swatches on her blog when I am thinking of trying a new color. 😊
@michemman2 жыл бұрын
@@JayNathanWatercolor Yes, Jane mentioned somewhere on her website about "Pbr7 being a good sky and cloud colour, to not go green when mixed with a blue" but there are so many Pbr7s...I am looking for a warm colour, to start with a glow to test with cobalts...Pb28. So far all my Pbr7's still make a greeny grey....the search for a unicorn continues...it has to be liftable, and hopefully with the least amount of granulation! Yeah I know that cobalts granulate, but I have a few that are minimal. (...I really should just email her to clarify it! If you go through her website....) Some people mix a red with a blue first, and then add yellow or a warm colour next to the red in the sky, so that the yellow or burnt sienna never really has a chance to mix with the sky blue colour. Looking for cloud glow that is really thin mix very weak warmth!!! Jane can sign a book for you via her website and email, but as they are made with "Blurb" book printers, her third book it is quite expensive in Australian dollars, and would be quite a bit in Thai Baht, me thinks.... In kindred spirit, Eliza x
@danielleb.70552 жыл бұрын
Thanm you for swatching these out and I do wish they would put a bit more paint on their cards quite frankly they can afford it and enough to at least swatch and to be able to do a small painting. I think its redundant to have the unsersea ,sap green and Jane's Grey but hey people wouldn't think of mixing them to get colors like them. Have a great day
@deeanncross76742 жыл бұрын
I have the Jane Blundell DS set of 14 as well other colors. I love DS cerulean blue chromium over the WN version. I prefer WN perylene green over DS grayer version. Pyrole crimson is a lovely color and is new to me. I love DS sap green deep (not featured here). When watered down, it's a pretty green that can still get quite deep. I use buff titanium and goethite more frequently than I first thought. This is a very nice palette.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
I really like this Pyrrol crimson and the cerulean is great too. 🙏
@iadenicole9312 жыл бұрын
I enjoy DS paints. They are beautiful. This is a great range of colours. I'd remove Jane's grey and add a turquoise or a manginess blue.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
A few people seem to want to remove the Jane's grey. I guess we're all so used to mixing it ourselves?
@jennw68092 жыл бұрын
I love mixing Transparent Pyrrol Orange and Indanthrone to make darks and blacks!! Lovely video, good to see you!
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Sounds lovely. I'll give it a try ☺️
@starr-starr2 жыл бұрын
I’ve taken Jane’s online course with her mixing palette. You can get an astounding range of colors from those paints and a whole host of triads. You dont need the greens since they can be mixed, but they are nice timesavers. At first I was ho hum about the Buff Titanium and the Geothite, but they are incredibly useful (mix them together for the perfect sand color). Goethite adds granulation without shifting color very much. And I agree with you about the English Red. It’s one of the most beautiful versions, and SERIOUSLY opaque.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Oh great to hear that you took her course and found it useful. I was really impressed with the Indian Red 😊
@stalean03012 жыл бұрын
Jane has a Roman Szmal special palette, also. I ordered it from Jackson's and absolutely love it. I have most of these pigments from Daniel Smith to make my own Jane Blundell palette. Thanks for your video!
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome 🙏 I didn't know Jane had a Roman Szmal palette. I'll have to go and have a look.
@PcakeTheMadDoodler2 жыл бұрын
Some nice choices there. I prefer browner Siennas and Umbers, so I like these a lot.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Haha we're the complete opposite on that then 😂
@jrm27162 жыл бұрын
The cerulean blue chromium looks interesting. I like the granulation of it. I'd take out the greens and Jane's gray as I prefer to mix them myself. I'd also take out the buff titanium, as I dont see myself using it. Tfs
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
I really like this cerulean too
@sonyaoart2 жыл бұрын
It’s a good looking palette. Some of the brighter colours are a bit too loud for me but I can see how you’d want them for mixing. Thanks for the swatches!
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. Thank you for watching and commenting 🙏 I agree that a lot of the colors are too bright. Especially for me as a landscape painter. The palette is intended to be suitable for every subject matter though so I guess it's better to start with bright, clean colors.
@NanaBeth12 жыл бұрын
So lovely. Shame we can't see you doing a painting with this palette. Maybe you could put something similar together with some of hte new paints you have in your stash?
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there's really little paint on these dot cards. Not enough to paint with sadly. ☹️
@Mr.S652 жыл бұрын
This is a new palette from Blundell though. I have the DS 24 color palette suggested by Jane too with almost the same colors. If I were to buy her course, I’m ready even though other brands are suggested in a long list as substitutes to DS. Will I ever be patient to spend hours mixing triads? I doubt it 🙂
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Oh is this one new? I know that she had a 15 color ultimate mixing palette a few years ago. I thought this was just that palette with 5 extra paints?
@Mr.S652 жыл бұрын
@@JayNathanWatercolor it’s new concerning the extra 5. The 24 tin case was put together under her recommendations except for the light sienna. The video is here on KZbin. This dot palette has her name on which I don’t think the first one did. I hope I made sense :)
@TouchoftheClouds2 жыл бұрын
Indanthrone blue, pthalo blue and perylene green work really well for botanicals - they help colours pop when used in the underpainting. As for this palette, I love Jane Blundell but I'm always sad she collaborated with Daniel Smith as they're so pricey here in aus. I wish she could have found a local affordable brand; unfortunately it's still cheaper to buy watercolours from Jackson's than in stores here.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information 🙏 Someone left a comment earlier saying that she also has a Roman Szmal palette. Maybe that's a cheaper option for you than Daniel Smith?
@magentaindigoart2 жыл бұрын
Orange is not usually my type of favorite color but this PO71 just looks so beautiful. I love the scarlet too, I don't think it looks too similar to the Van Gogh PR264. And that Indian red just shoots off the paper, looks lovely too. That Burnt Sienna though.. 😅yeah, it's too brown for me. I wonder if I'll ever finish the tube I got. A PB60 comparison would be a great idea for a future video ^_^
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
The orange is really lovely 😍 I'll have to see if I can get another swatch of PB60 out of the dot.
@jennw68092 жыл бұрын
I don't have Goethite, but Jane Blundell raves about it so much. But everyone's taste is different! Maybe it's not the be all end all though.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it wasn't very interesting to me but I was just trying it from a tiny dot.
@Bloomkyaaa2 жыл бұрын
Quin. Gold is just so versatile! I would like to see a whole video dedicated to recreating 3 mix colors that use Quin. Gold lol! I would remove the Undersea Green, Sap Green, and Jane's Grey (since you can just mix them yourself) and add some more fun D.S colors like Lunar Black and Moonglow.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
You're right! Quin gold is awesome. I'll add it to my list to make a video trying to mix those greens 🙏😊
@aeli9992 жыл бұрын
I love the buff titanium, I have it in every palette that I make up. That undersea green is really pretty. I'm thinking of making a convenience color palette and I'll definitely keep it in mind for that. For sap, I use WN because it's 2 pigments. I've never used the Goethite brown and I don't care for the looks of it here. Apologies for being MIA recently. I have a lot of videos to catch on. Real life stuff.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
I’ve not tried the W&N sap green yet. I’m sure I’ll try it one day 😊
@nursen21062 жыл бұрын
I realized, I can't say anything about this palette, except - swatched out, it reminds me of a set of colours for school kids. I guess, because of the bright colours on the top rows!? I guess, one has to look up her works. what she does with it
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Yes the palette is intended to be for painting any subject matter so there's colors that don't really appeal to me as a landscape painter. Still, it's an excellent palette for learning to mix colors though.
@markdonovan15402 жыл бұрын
Oooh, Daniel Smith swatch-out, it's also a Jane Blundell palette. I often check her website for information on DS paints. From this palette I have the following: Quinacridone Rose (it can be used as a powerful primary) Ultramarine Blue (I tend to prefer the French Ultramarine - it goes well with Cobalt Blue in skyscapes) Phthalo Blue Green Shade (this is similar to a Prussian Blue) Cerulean Blue Chromium (I'm not convinced by this so far, I prefer the standard Cerulean Blue) Perylene Green (a superb green for mixing or adding shadow greens in foliage) Undersea Green (a versatile green for foliage and landscapes) Goethite Brown Ochre - a rich earth hue Burnt Sienna (I'm currently trying Quinacridone Sienna as an alternative - as used by Michael Solovyev in his palette) Jane's Grey (a lovely grey, made to Jane Blundell's mix specification) It's a very well-balanced palette. I often try different palettes, probably because I'm still experimenting and relatively inexperienced. I guess the palette set up depends on how and what one paints. I've got small and large palettes, but I tend to use the smaller palettes more and find out what mixes I can do.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Her blog is really useful for checking swatches from all brands. I've probably looked at it 100s of times over the last couple of years.
@lorijones9579 Жыл бұрын
I've followed Jane B. for several years now. I appreciate her website very much and her ultimate mixing palette is great. But I've never loved Cerulean Blue. I'd rather have a Cobalt Teal. Her palette is pretty earth tone heavy. I'd swap Indian Red for Dioxazine Purple. But overall, I'm a fan.
@amypanddirtytoo19262 жыл бұрын
I love mixing Buff Titanium with bright colors to make them look vintage. I don't like it with portraits because I prefer translucent colors for skin tones. The granulating and opaque colors make skin look...just not nice.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
I guess it would turn the bright colors in to pastel colours right?
@amypanddirtytoo19262 жыл бұрын
@@JayNathanWatercolor kind of, but it more mutes them than turns them pastel. Even if you use more Buff Titanium than the color it still just makes a very light muted version of the color rather than a purely pastel version of the color. I hope I'm explaining it right, lol! It's a very unique mixing color, I love it!
@FelineFurKin2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t use this whole palette, I have my own in the making as I get to know my paints better, but I love their indanthrone blue for its warmer tone than others and perylene green is so good, Roman Szmal does a lovely one too. The phthalo green is so vibrant, gorgeous jewel tone.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear what you would put in your palette? 😊
@SarahBaileyArts2 жыл бұрын
Jane's Grey. Sigh. I want to love it, I sure could use it quite a lot, but I've had it in palettes over the past couple of years and (I think because the two pigments are mulled together) I just don't like it as much as mixing UMB and Burnt Sienna myself. Mixing myself always separates and granulates so much more nicely, jane's grey is boring by comparison with all its sticky together-y-ness.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sarah. I hadn’t thought about that. The separation is definitely one of the best things about the burnt sienna and ultramarine mix.
@awatercolourist2 жыл бұрын
I think I’d remove the earth paints, I don’t like them. I’d add PY129 - of course - a PG50 teal, a phthalo turquoise, maybe a PB27 and a PB15:3 instead of the red shade included here; I might add a PY53, but I need to try it first. Lets see, what else… a PY175, maybe? Lunar blue is a nice paint, but I’d have to try it first as well. I think Ultramarine alone does not provide enough granulation so another blue from the Cobalt family is called for 😂. Not enough reds, so maybe a PR209 or a PR242 - or both 😂. PY150, PO48… was there a PV23, I can’t remember-oh well, lets just add it; PV23 never hurt anyone. I think I might need a PV16 as well. I might need a PY65 and/or a PY62. I’ll let you know if any other paints spring to my mind.
@awatercolourist2 жыл бұрын
Correction: I thought the phthalo blue in this palette was the red shade.
@JayNathanWatercolor2 жыл бұрын
Haha it sounds like you would just replace the whole palette? 🤣
@awatercolourist2 жыл бұрын
@@JayNathanWatercolor No, more like buy all the single-pigment paints out there 😂