GivEnergy GivBack & Axle Energy. How to Apply & Make Money with Saving Sessions

In this video I take a look at the GivEnergy GivBack battery saving sessions scheme which helps the ESO (Electricity System Operator) run the DFS (Demand Flexibility Service) this winter. I take a look at how much you might get paid, how it works and how to apply.
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[@Sug-1998]

I am on my first event, today 5pm to 6pm, all went very well. 👍

[@michals1108]

How much you have made?

[@PaulLandregan]

Glad you are enjoying GivBack

[@daniel_coe]

Yes I am! Thanks Paul

[@briandavis7137]

Many thanks for the excellent video. I thought this was some sort of con to start with but it is clearly a no brainer to join up. So I have done just that straight after watching your video. We will await an event!!!!

[@PaulLandregan]

No Export MPAN needed now. So way more people are eligble

[@danielwalls5150]

Just so your aware, octopus now allow export to be paid under savingsessions. This makes it equal/better than givenenergy.

[@gk3092]

is octopus savingsessions not allowed at the same time as this then?

[@waqasahmed939]

@@gk3092 It isn't. They're both participating in the DFS I guess it depends on what you want too ie: cold hard cash vs credits instead

[@markherrington1129]

Worked for me, earn’t £6.19 from 2.93kwh, less £1.03 to top up my battery so nett £5.16 fine by me

[@colingoode3702]

As a retired couple that uses everything (& more) that our battery can store with an overnight charge & top up during the day with low winter generation, I see no benefit in signing up to this service. If I had more storage (which I am looking at doing) then it may be worth considering. However, with only a 3.6kW inverter we can only charge / discharge at a fairly low rate which if not managed properly means increased usage of grid power during the day. All things considered not for us.

[@robinbennett5994]

You'd be paid significantly more for this than it would cost you to import later in the evening. £2 vs 30p per unit. It's not a lot of money in total though - I don't think it would justify buying a bigger battery just for this.

[@colingoode3702]

@@robinbennett5994 Yes I would agree. I need more battery storage in order to increase our daily off grid run time & coup with the extra load of a future Air to Air heat pump which will at some point will replace my gas CH - well that's the plan anyway. Today we started out with a full 9.5kWh battery after charging it & the car overnight on our 9p Go tariff. With a little bit of solar during the day by 5pm we are at 30% battery which will be barely enough to get us through to 8pm after evening meals etc. I may also need to consider a tariff change to access a longer off peak time period for charging up 19kWh of battery & an empty 64kWh car battery. 4 hrs of off peak Go tariff is not long enough. The only snag is that this is all so terribly expensive so I have to be realistic about what can be done.

[@peterjones6322]

It should work for you too, you will be paid £2 for each kWh that will cost you about 30p to charge during the day. Personally I use Octopus and earn £2.25, and last week £4 per kwh !!

[@robinbennett5994]

@@peterjones6322 It's worth pointing out that the last couple of saving sessions (at down here in the south east) have paid £4 per kWh - 13 times more than it would cost to re-charge the battery at peak rate.