EP3 Civic Type R Racecar Track Test

Hello join me for some spicy Civic racecar testing at Snetterton where I try to get to grips with the Type R ahead of some racing.
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00:00 INTRO
00:35 FOG
02:35 FIRST DRIVE
08:40 THOUGHTS
13:25 DRIVE FAST
27:12 LOOSE
32:15 WET LAPS
38:35 READY
39:44 OUTRO

[@mambomurphy]

The 2 50p together analogy for the flat spotted rear tyres was a highlight

[@R3IMU]

Got me bad.

[@jameswray6015]

Civic just needs an angle kit and you could take it as a spare car to driftland. Well handled lad.

[@Stevelangdon93]

That gear stick wobbling around through the corners 😂 you can even see when the diff is kicking in every now and then watching it

[@dannyDC2]

haha didn't notice until you said!

[@stuartwilliams5548]

Great driving Dan getting to grips with the car. Looks a real handful to be honest. Can’t wait for the race video. 🚙💨

[@twarken5078]

Bloody hell that race start looks SPICY! As does the cars handling 😂 Mega video as always 👍🏼

[@fewhavestrength]

As an EP3 TR owner its great to hear your race knowledge about these cars, fantastic video thanks dude 👍🏻

[@adamknight9535]

Keep at it Danny you're doing really well and we are loving the Honda content lol

[@jackbradley2460]

Nice to have drifting back on the channel 😂 Top work Dan 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Niki_R188]

Danny fast hands...some brave moves there..nice

[@pequod1]

The commentary is nice

[@konholio2]

In the past I had loads of issues with the camber and alignment on my EP3. The camber bolts were getting loose for no good reason every track day, so I completely replaced the suspension and overtorqued the camber bolts. Last time the camber stayed the same, but got 6-8 min of toe in per wheel after the race, but that could have been due to the springs settling in. We will see how it goes next year.

[@davidhorrocks2627]

look forward to seeing some hondaings along with the mr2 & garage work

[@mikehipperson]

Congrats Dan on the Brand's Hatch IndyKa 500 win. Two solid sessions (almost!) behind the wheel to help set it up. Congrats to the rest of the team who kept everything together in the difficult conditions. A nice way to end the season!

[@dannyDC2]

cheers dude

[@quentinrs2507]

Nice one Danny 👏🏻

[@JamalPennant]

good vid shake down with the civic. Nice editing too

[@danbaileyracing6604]

Great video mate can't wait for the next one ;)

[@dannyDC2]

it's gonna be a long one!

[@whoisgoogle]

Yes Dan!

[@SerYil1]

lovely stuff! can't imagine myself putting down the right amount of braking power without abs, not easy.

[@Natedawg3451]

Love the H content, does seem very lively for a ep3 🤔. Look forward to more of the same raceday footage.

[@martinc8532]

Tyres are always an odd one, there's quite a few of us running the MRFs on our Clios and absolutely love them, I normally go with 23/24psi front and 26ish rear when cold, they seem to come up around 30psi hot and stay there. But what works for me doesn't always work for everyone else I suppose! Looking forward to the race vlog, always love an XXL DannyEP3 upload.

[@eternalextrapolations]

That sounds like low pressure. Is that unusually low compared to what you'd expect to run in a race with other tyres?

[@martinc8532]

@@eternalextrapolations Again, it's different for everyone. I tried running higher pressures and the car felt skittish and didn't have much grip. They've lasted me a year of trackdays so I can't be going too wrong with them.

[@eternalextrapolations]

@@martinc8532 Fair enough if they've lasted. Did you notice any unusual tyre wear pattern? I would expect to put 30psi minimum into a tyre, and I have noticed more grip with less pressure but figured that was underinflated.

[@martinc8532]

@@eternalextrapolations they're wearing pretty evenly to be fair, nothing unusual. I had a little excess outside shoulder wear but the car had a shitty alignment on it so I'd say that was the main cause. My only real complaint about the MRF is the price now. However if I decide to enter Time Attack next year I'm going to have to switch to AR-1 anyway! So we'll see how it all goes!

[@eternalextrapolations]

@@martinc8532 yeah it makes sense that they'd wear more on the edges than the center if they're underinflated, but no arguing that there's more grip that way. A different tyre brand can make a big difference as to how the car feels as far as steering and tracks as well as grips. Cheers and best of luck in your next outing!

[@scottphillips7267]

Proper chilled driver dude 👌 👍

[@b.1321c]

lovely driving danny boy

[@squealingtyres]

Looks great fun

[@gearscorners8097]

True Underdog.

[@alomechanthasinh4079]

I love these videos

[@dannyDC2]

thanks!

[@RiperSnifle]

Love your videos mate, some of the best content I’ve seen on the tube 👍 I’m mega into this kind of stuff but admittedly a massive noob. How or where did you learn to drive a car with such control and confidence? Start with track days? I’d love to become a much better driver and improve myself confidence wise and have the ability to control a car in oversteer etc. keep it up!

[@dannyDC2]

just driving yeah

[@ModFix]

Cracking video Dan 👍 Are there any FN2s racing in it? At least with an FN you wouldn't keep losing the rear alignment ( Unless the beam snaps 😆 )

[@fred04001]

Epic first 30 sec intro 😂🙈

[@markgeehockney1412]

Hi Dan Do the valve clearance sorted Stevie at grinspeed did me a timing kit n valve clearance n it was like a new engine that revved alot better 👌

[@lukesimonpfiallday3868]

Can’t wait to see everyone going into turn 1 off the start 😅

[@Keys.Bradley.Racing]

I wonder if it just had the baffle plate, it can still shot up the timing chain with them when you turn left?

[@MF_Henri]

Whats up with the rear? Do you need more rear camber there or is it just the geo auto adjusting?

[@mariandin]

Nice driving man, the rear camber really did the job, how many degrees did you put on the rear? Also, based on your experience it would be cool to make a wheel alignment video for both fwd and rwd.😁

[@Keane-to-clean]

Them tires are scary!

[@bg1321]

Moto iq did a video on fixing the suspension on the ep3 you can eliminate that shuffle with reverse tie end rods and a plate for the rack

[@dannyDC2]

Classic vid

[@DC5dotty]

Loving the boots 🥾

[@benripley7596]

cheers

[@jimmymozzy5035]

RE your oil prezsure. You definitely want to check the what baffle you have in the sump. This a common problem with the K seeies and will destroy you engine if left. i had a budget baffle in mine and was dropping below 30psi coming out of tight left handers. The problem is the pickup is foward in tje sump and evem with side baffles the oil can still run away to the back of the sump under acceleration.

[@dannyDC2]

pretty sure all the cars have the same baffle

[@joshwatton9335]

Surprised you said that about the MRF’s, I just bought a set for the DC5 after a few people who used them speaking very highly of them.

[@dannyDC2]

Both my experiences with them have been underwhelming

[@housesteinernz]

Castrol SRF racing brake fluid for the wins. Enjoy the content and your driving gg

[@dannyDC2]

I’ve tried a few fluids now and never really noticed a difference

[@housesteinernz]

@@dannyDC2 I've found when I've boiled other brands, I have to bleed to get the pedal back, not with Castrol SRF, something something about not giving off vapor when boiled..

[@ett_baer]

Big question I have is how is the steering feel with the way you have it set up? I was completely put off the ep3 because of the steering thing.

[@dannyDC2]

Gonna find it hard to answer these ep3 specific questions as I was just treating it as a race car, but yeah the steering is floppy compared to anything else

[@ett_baer]

@@dannyDC2 yeah I get that, thanks though! Glad I got a 172 as a track car over it. Bit sad I didn't go for an ek or similar though.

[@ThEtEcHnOsAm]

Vtec solenoid okay? Been sat trying to guess when the trick will be for getting it turned in, carrying more throttle on entry maybe? Brake bias further forward and carry the throttle to prevent locking on the front axle

[@dannyDC2]

all good points

[@TheBrokenMountainBiker]

Looks a bit loosy-goosy there mate!

[@dannyDC2]

better than being steady eddie!

[@k20a_dave]

geez that thing loves to oversteer, did you buy a RR converted ep3 haha. nice driving to save it. what was the issue with oil pressure, oil pump itself or the oil pan needing baffles or something?

[@steventhomson7531]

Recently tried those MRFs on our Mini. When they are in their working window they are pretty decent, but the window seems very narrow and when they let go they completely let go. Not a fan, much prefer Yoko A052s.

[@dannyDC2]

Grip levels are about the same as the Toyo R888r IME

[@joshjamesguitar]

EP3's hate too high tyre pressure in the rear. Also blue Loctite can be a saviour

[@BigAuf_]

She's a wild one

[@dannyDC2]

a real wild one

[@Thatcntwiththecivic]

Im assuming you have a baffled sump? When its dropping out of vtec going round corners to me the pick up isnt getting enough oil due to the oil being pushed to one side. But im assuming you know that already. Possibly the solenoid needing a clean or replacement?

[@kamo944]

When race video? Can’t wait

[@HarrisRallying]

What geometry you using or is it secret, 😂, played with rear toe on my ep3 rally car - makes loads of difference, go to big and it will drive like shopping trolly

[@dannyDC2]

Rear toe is good yeah

[@chriswilkinson1991]

Shocked how all over the place the EP3 is

[@squarrl]

Could the filter for the Vtec solenoid be a bit clogged?

[@dannyDC2]

Good guess!

[@nismospek]

Are all EP3s like that to race. I had heard that they were one of the more difficult platforms to setup but this looks a bit mental.

[@dannyDC2]

I wanted it to be loose

[@fairyliquid6864]

Wow I did not expect the rear to be so loose.

[@dannyDC2]

Same

[@patriceimberdis1631]

hi danny, nice session, I think it's just a matter of adjusting the shock absorber, especially the rear can be a little too hard, I think you have too much rebound since your tires are slicks or semi slicks!!

[@patriceimberdis1631]

the wheels loosen due to the fact that you do some off-roading😆

[@dannyDC2]

I did soften the rear roll bar slightly, but I preferred it stiffer

[@dpoid]

@@dannyDC2 thats what she said

[@FN2OPS]

Hi Danny, probably you are aware of this, there´s been a few reports of baffle sumps issues on trackdays. I believe some EP3 owners are removing these and just top up oil above max.

[@mishamykhaylov9455]

I’m also seeing that.. people topping up to the twist.. almost a liter more

[@derekfriday7931]

I run a baffle and 1 quart up over what the spec from Honda is. I cant remember how even the dipstick is to the pick up. But even street driving it always empty while running

[@dannyDC2]

never heard of baffled sumps causing issues on trackdays, never had an issue with my K20s in the past. The issue here was (spoiler alert) vtec solenoid

[@justso1823]

@@dannyDC2 make sure you have a decent flowing oil filter some nasty one's restrict a few psi to the top end. also dodgy TPS sensor not showing full throttle

[@2005ep3si]

Was there any live stream coverage of the racing?

[@dannyDC2]

unfortunately not

[@carlwicks2088]

Is it because you have been use to driving/racing rwd cars? so racing a fwd is a totally different feel?

[@dannyDC2]

I set it up to be spicy... didn't get time to cover much in the garage video due to time but I was happy it was dancing

[@yardspeed13]

I saw the 2 50p's comment coming ... still made me lol. If you had free choice, what tyres would be your preference on the EP3? I'm using AR-1s on my FN which have been decent...but not sure what to go for when they need replacing. Great content once again sir.

[@dannyDC2]

Yokohama A052 is the best tyre

[@yardspeed13]

@@dannyDC2 yikes, they ain’t cheap… but then again, what is these days? Cheers for the suggestion 🙌🏼

[@joe_ek4]

R888r. Just tried them on a light modded dc5 and they were excellent

[@Dm-jk3cz]

@@dannyDC2 what makes you prefer them over the ar1 ?

[@dannyDC2]

@@Dm-jk3cz I've used them both and A052 are better. Maybe I should make a video

[@matthewj6785]

Danny i'm fairly new to your channel but your content is great thanks for the uploads. Where did you learn to work on your cars are you a mechanic? Is that how you get the skill level to work on cars properly? Cheers!

[@dannyDC2]

I just been messing around with cars for years, nothing professionally

[@fewhavestrength]

did you check the vtc solenoid and solenoid gasket?

[@Larry3200]

Has it got a baffled sump? Could explain the vtec situation

[@dannyDC2]

Yes

[@doderiolarkisso4038]

Wtf? Seems like steering changed a lot from the EK. My EK4 with an LSD barely steers lol

[@dannyDC2]

Barely steers how?

[@eternalextrapolations]

Why would they regulate a choice of only one tyre, and one that seems to have such low grip? Seems contrary to optimum safety.

[@dannyDC2]

Tyre regulation is pretty common. They aren’t that bad. Similar to what I race the mr2 on

[@VxO4fame]

what type of fuel are u guys running here? 38:00 nice catch !

[@dannyDC2]

Just shell or esso 99

[@florian_montuzet]

Looks like the race gonna be messy !

[@dirtdiamond360]

Danny, out of all the tyres you have raced or done track days on, which do you like the most?

[@dannyDC2]

Yokohama A052

[@dirtdiamond360]

@@dannyDC2 and what if you had to pick between R888R and AR1?

[@dannyDC2]

@@dirtdiamond360 tough choice, I recently had that choice and went AR1 but kinda wish I went R888r

[@3finnian]

It doesn't sound like you're revving it out all the way, not sure on the standard map but the remaps tend to love the higher rpm

[@joe_ek4]

Hes deffo revving it all the way. And type r trophy all run stock ecu by regulation so cant do nothing about it

[@dannyDC2]

lol yeah, stock rev limit

[@ikaros4203]

mr2 rwd-chads win again

[@sparkplug964]

Sorry dan but I think you mistaken T1 for Terminal 1, still living that sweet Vtec life I see.

[@justsean6199]

Gnarly

[@ivandoe33]

you like those scenic routes, don't you

[@KaiKai-ot6li]

The k20 sounds bit weak might need a valve lash adjustment.

[@dannyDC2]

maybe

[@spazda_mx5]

Re: turn 1, have you ever thought about trying rallycross? 😉

[@dannyDC2]

that's the fast line, over the grass

[@minilurk11]

When you turn left the k series has a problem with oil going up around the timing chain. Get a baffled pan. Edit- get rid of the eccentric bolts in the back and buy adjustable arms of you can

[@dannyDC2]

has a baffled pan of course, but we can't change those arms on these cars

[@minilurk11]

@@dannyDC2 well you might have to pull the pan off and see what the setup is. Some pans don't baffle around the oil pump so oil will go up through behind the timing cover

[@JordzyBrev]

Can only change rear camber arms to adjustable on the rear, ep3 have adjustable rear toe from factory just not camber

[@minilurk11]

@@JordzyBrev I know. Only reason I said to buy adjustable arms is so you don't have to rely on concentric bolts to adjust toe but the arm itself

[@dannyDC2]

@@minilurk11 I was talking crap anyway, it has adjustable rear camber arms I just forgot

[@BlueberryWrap]

Instantly hear dave mirra bmx 2

[@dannyDC2]

I was playing it last week hence the tune

[@deanodrives4966]

I really like these cars, but the steering feel and rust really puts me off. The engine is an absolute peach though

[@dannyDC2]

Engine is removable

[@joe_ek4]

Engine is the only redeeming factor

[@JordzyBrev]

I had a ep2 and steering was horrible on it, recently got a fn2 wont go back to a older honda again, even drove a ep3 and steering response felt horrible

[@gizzardfan7349]

“Front Andrea” Yorkshire spec

[@dannyDC2]

you'll have to explain that one 😁

[@OhhRyzxh]

Able to change ratios? You seem to be in and out of gears a little bit too much. Generally pretty decent but seem to keep braking like it's a RWD car, which is no surprise since you race the MR2 😁

[@dannyDC2]

nah you can't change the gearbox - what do you mean braking like a RWD car? Maybe not enough trail braking

[@OhhRyzxh]

@@dannyDC2 that's a shame! And yeah there's a few spots where just a little bit more brake will help your stability, some of the times you come off the brake just a tad too early and the weight gets properly thrown off. That being said it's a lot harder without ABS. but let's see if the brake tip these guys have you helps this (will see in the race vlog 😁) Just want to add I'm a driver coach not just a random chatting shit on a keyboard, you're doing a cracking job and it's great to see your pace improving compared to season one of MR2s. Loving the content

[@midlifecrisis9269]

That messed up wing on drivers side wont be helping the car Aero, great driving as usual.

[@jonathanchung7209]

This thing is horrible.

[@dannyDC2]

Why ?

[@dec46]

Cos the rear tyres were shit? lol

[@jonathanchung7209]

The setup makes you work so hard.

[@eternalextrapolations]

I would have given up on the way it handled as being undriveable.

[@disgruntledseabass5652]

@@eternalextrapolations Winners learn by failure mate, thats how they win !.