Medieval Historian Breaks Down 'The King' Movie | Deep Dives

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@arkroogs90
@arkroogs90 2 ай бұрын
Really wish they would have included his injury and recovery. Kind of iconic. Looks like they included a tiny scar, but never explain it.
@apropercuppa8612
@apropercuppa8612 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, a lot it glossed over. It's never really clear (from memory) why the two beheadings are significant or why they were behind the Southampton Plot. It just skips to "beheadings" to progress the overall plot of the film and it always left me a little confused.
@Vino_Veritas
@Vino_Veritas 2 ай бұрын
Honestly it’d make him look like a tough fucker. Dude fought and won with an arrow in his face
@HawkeyeBrooke
@HawkeyeBrooke 2 ай бұрын
I just realized Thomas is Tommen Baratheon from GOT and Hotspur is King Aegon from HOTD. 😂
@jkharris93
@jkharris93 2 ай бұрын
Ok! I thought that was Tommen, but the darker hair threw me!
@myamdane6895
@myamdane6895 2 ай бұрын
YO!! Right you are.
@hockeygrrlmuse
@hockeygrrlmuse 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, and Ben Mendelsohn did a stellar job in his role, but you could edit in Paddy Considine's later scenes as a replacement pretty seamlessly.
@Velkan1396
@Velkan1396 2 ай бұрын
I remember seeing this movie when It came out and thinking "Hotspur was very well played, hopefully we get to see more of that Guy." Wasn't dissapointed.
@xxkairzzxx1994
@xxkairzzxx1994 2 ай бұрын
Henry Percy is also played by Aegon from the house of the dragon
@tonyguyan9559
@tonyguyan9559 2 ай бұрын
Blew my mind what Catherine did. As soon as you said she married a Welsh commoner I knew you were gonna say Tudor. I’m currently working my way through the biographies of the monarchs of England & the UK, up to Edward III. I love history and loving this channel.
@nicksykes4575
@nicksykes4575 2 ай бұрын
As someone whose address is Upper Battlefield Shrewsbury, I can say, the landscape looks very realistic, I couldn't swear for certain that it wasn't filmed on my neighbours farm.
@WCSPete1
@WCSPete1 2 ай бұрын
Just up the road from me in Nantwich
@MrSaVaGeRiDeR
@MrSaVaGeRiDeR 2 ай бұрын
Usually go watch the battle of Shrewsbury reenactment brilliant to watch
@taurus_says_hi8404
@taurus_says_hi8404 Ай бұрын
That is so majestic wowee
@VolcanoGroupie
@VolcanoGroupie 2 ай бұрын
I understand the film did not adhere to history but it was a terrific movie. It spurred my interest in Henry IV and Henry V (I’m an American). Thanks for your analysis.
@BobUikder-ig4uq
@BobUikder-ig4uq 2 ай бұрын
average American comment mixed with a hearty dose of typical millenial cringe 😭😭😭
@VolcanoGroupie
@VolcanoGroupie 2 ай бұрын
@@BobUikder-ig4uq wow, what a lovely comment. I’m 66 years old 😂
@MrVuvuzaala
@MrVuvuzaala 2 ай бұрын
@@BobUikder-ig4uq Wow! How rude! 😡
@MrVuvuzaala
@MrVuvuzaala 2 ай бұрын
@@VolcanoGroupie Ignore him, he only joined YT back in April last year, so he is probably just another one of those objectionable trolls! I would heartily recommend reading, "Agincourt: The King, the Campaign, the Battle", by Juliet Barker; ISBN 139780349119182; ISBN 10034911918X; Sku GOR001355669. 😉👍
@88kayleigh
@88kayleigh 2 ай бұрын
That’s what I love about historical fiction, whether it’s a movie or TV or books - if you go into it carrying a grain of salt, knowing there will absolutely be inaccuracies, they really do spur an interest in the real thing. Something about dramatizing and humanizing it. It makes you want to learn more about the real history - and from there it becomes even more interesting to loop back around, see how many different historical fiction representations interpret the same people or events in different ways.
@sparkleypegs8350
@sparkleypegs8350 2 ай бұрын
I knew it wasn't historically correct but it looked great and was a fun watch.
@ccptube3468
@ccptube3468 2 ай бұрын
We are glad you are easily amused.
@Reacher101
@Reacher101 2 ай бұрын
​@@ccptube3468🤡
@SKILLIUSCAESAR
@SKILLIUSCAESAR 2 ай бұрын
I live for these movies and despite trying 2x I couldn’t finish this flick. It was just so bland to me… idk
@Caridad420
@Caridad420 2 ай бұрын
@@ccptube3468miserable
@camerapasteurize7215
@camerapasteurize7215 2 ай бұрын
​@@ccptube3468 We are glad you are so quick to show your bitterness.
@alejo1995161
@alejo1995161 2 ай бұрын
These videos have become an addiction
@cheften2mk
@cheften2mk 2 ай бұрын
Matt should break down Outlaw King. The better Braveheart
@Liam_Mellon
@Liam_Mellon 2 ай бұрын
That’d be awesome, but we don’t need to keep comparing it to Braveheart like we’ve got something to prove. I’d say Braveheart is actually more entertaining, which is fine because it’s a fairy tale. It’s shot very realistically, but it’s really just a fairy tale for adults. I don’t think it ought to be held to the same standards as Outlaw King, because they’re just two different types of films. It’s not like apples to apples. I personally love both.
@tonyaharmon1383
@tonyaharmon1383 2 ай бұрын
​@@Liam_Mellon Agreed! I've Not Yet Seen Outlaw King.... I Agree With Your Points! Have A Wonderful Day!😊
@l.p3861
@l.p3861 2 ай бұрын
History Buffs does a video on Outlaw King, its pretty good
@radical6905
@radical6905 2 ай бұрын
@@Liam_Mellon yeah Braveheart is more or less based on an folktale version of the history written well after the events and we can look at it like that. Having said that still inexcusable to not have a bridge at the battle of stirling bridge imo
@360DJR
@360DJR 2 ай бұрын
Well it’s actually what happens after Braveheart but I get the sentiment.
@PinkGrapefruit22
@PinkGrapefruit22 2 ай бұрын
This was very enjoyable. I liked hearing your breakdown of the actual history. I'm constantly wishing that we could get more media that focus on this time period that *isn't* just another Shakespeare adaptation. I'd like to see someone take a stab at being actually historically accurate! I think the one point that my thoughts diverged significantly from yours was about Henry's speech before the battle of Agincourt. I think it not being particularly rousing, especially compared to Shakespeare's St. Crispin Day speech, is very much the point. This movie is very anti-war, and I think the intention throughout was to undercut what Shakespeare originally presented as glorious or glamorous acts of arms and show all of the violence as futile and vainglorious. So instead of a rousing speech that stirs our hearts we get one that's sort of awkward and depressing. I think it fits the tone and message of the movie very well.
@MarineBioFin
@MarineBioFin 2 ай бұрын
Was lucky enough to meet matt at one of his Richard 3rd talks, an absolute gem in the medieval historical community
@danaglabeman6919
@danaglabeman6919 2 ай бұрын
The only thing I take issue with is the thing I always take issue with: the description of Owain ap Tudwr as a commoner. You hear him called a servant, a butler, a nobody. He was Catherine's steward. Royalty always had nobility as their stewards. Owain was a top member of old Welsh nobility, a cousin of Owain Glyndwr with a strong claim after that family's death to the native princedom of Wales. He wasn't a commoner. People want to make it sound like Catherine ran off with a kitchen boy.
@cyclofeedubox8332
@cyclofeedubox8332 Ай бұрын
Whilst true, this isn’t history but a Shakespearean play and the belittling of Owain from Henry’s point of view makes sense tbf
@danaglabeman6919
@danaglabeman6919 Ай бұрын
@@cyclofeedubox8332 Oh of course, but the movie itself, which is Shakespeare's story, says not one word about Owain Tudor. It's the historians "interesting sidenote" description of him I object to. That has nothing to do with Shakespeare.
@TheMadPoetHimself
@TheMadPoetHimself 2 ай бұрын
Apparently Princess Catherine said she couldn't eat in Henry's presence because the sight of him made her sick... not sure if it was the gross facial scar or the whole taking over her country thing...
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont Ай бұрын
Poor Catherine, I understand her.
@Scott-po6go
@Scott-po6go 15 күн бұрын
Well, if she's anything like me, then it was probably because he chewed with his mouth opened.
@DanielaVilu
@DanielaVilu 2 ай бұрын
this is quite eerie, as I was watching this movie earlier today and I was just thinking "what would Matt Lewis make of this?"
@rachaelskibbe7899
@rachaelskibbe7899 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 I saw he came out with this and I couldn't wait to watch.
@sonyapolk5356
@sonyapolk5356 2 ай бұрын
I actually really love this movie.
@Dormir_Descansar
@Dormir_Descansar 16 күн бұрын
I think you’re missing on the John Falstaff death scene. It seems as though Henry is losing the only person he trusted. He’s losing a part of his life that he can never go back to. He asked his friend to join a cause, even though John didn’t necessarily want to.
@jkharris93
@jkharris93 2 ай бұрын
The actor portraying Gascoigne has such a distinctive voice-I always know it’s him before I even see him!
@CrisSelene
@CrisSelene Ай бұрын
I know him from The Borgias. In my head he is always Micheletto
@Chilly_Billy
@Chilly_Billy 2 ай бұрын
In my opinion, nothing could approach Kenneth Branagh's Henry V.
@OdeInWessex
@OdeInWessex 2 ай бұрын
There's always Laurence Oliver's, he did it first and better imo.
@briancolwill3071
@briancolwill3071 2 ай бұрын
Not even Thor 1?
@karlmeredith5134
@karlmeredith5134 2 ай бұрын
I suggest you watch Laurence Oliviers version of Henry V
@OdeInWessex
@OdeInWessex 2 ай бұрын
@@karlmeredith5134 I said exactly the same thing but my comment was taken down - weird!
@lindsaydrewe8219
@lindsaydrewe8219 2 ай бұрын
Hiddlestons Henry was pretty bloody good
@Taltinus
@Taltinus Ай бұрын
I love that movie, despite the inaccuracies its such a good example of how to make a movie. Also that soundtrack is so on point
@josephcollins6033
@josephcollins6033 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, Matthew! I try to see anything you do. You're the best.
@nm7358
@nm7358 2 ай бұрын
32:55 Even though Henry V was King in England, he also was a vassal of the King of France as Duke of Aquitaine. While the French Kings had renounced since Edward III to request the hommage lige to the English King, the latter had to give the French King the hommage simple for their domains in Aquitaine. So the Dauphin being seated in front of him would make perfect sense because even at war, Henry remains a vassal of the French crown on French soil and it is a deliberate slight to the so-called superiority of his crown of England.
@luckyspurs
@luckyspurs 2 ай бұрын
Well that's kind of how the 100 years war happened isn't it. The English and French kings could always feel more important than each other, at the same time.
@robert-surcouf
@robert-surcouf 2 ай бұрын
@@luckyspurs William 1 is the one to blame for bringing 400 years of conflict between two kingdoms which had peaceful relationship previously.
@SKILLIUSCAESAR
@SKILLIUSCAESAR 2 ай бұрын
I’d never heard of various types of Homage, ie simple vs homage liege… super interesting
@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479
@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 Ай бұрын
​@@robert-surcoufWilliam the conqueror is Norman and was more French than anyone. Hell he was more interested in Frenchifying England and making castles. Not his fault his descendants later decided to go back to France in a big way and re-enact the Viking age, but this time on horses instead of boats and bows instead of axes.
@robert-surcouf
@robert-surcouf Ай бұрын
@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 As long as the kings of england were also dukes in France, there will always be some feud there, especially with the kings of france just like when the normans or the plantagenets were only dukes before the conquest. Unlike England, France in middle ages just like the holy roman empire was feudalism at his peak with a kingdom or an empire very decentralized and some vassals stronger than the king himself. In France especially, the king's power weakened quickly after the Verdun in 843 while the nobility's power grow stronger, which was helped by the short reigns of many carolingians monarchs after Charles 2's death in 877 (11 monarchs from 3 different houses ruled between 877 and 987). When the carolingians dynasty finally ended, the capetians took the throne but even if they controlled the kingdom in theory, their power only applied in the royal domain (basically Paris and the neighbourhood) until the late 12th century. That means for roughly 300 years (between 900 and 1200), the dukes of Normandy or the counts of Anjou always had a conflictual relationship with the carolingians and the capetians rather than a genuine relationship between a liege and his vassal. The fall of the plantagenet empire didn't end the conflict as the kings of england kept their title of duke of Aquitaine/Guyenne until the 100YW finally happened and the loss of all their duchies/counties in France for the kings of england besides Calais which forced the kings of england to finally focus more on England rather than France.
@janetd5317
@janetd5317 2 ай бұрын
Loved this film...Chalamet did a good job. All the actors did.
@mahwardy6918
@mahwardy6918 11 күн бұрын
For me the music was 50% of the movie greatness, really good movie indeed.
@lorekeepermeerah
@lorekeepermeerah 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! I like that Lewis acknowledges the historian inaccuracies without being like 'this movie sucks'. I do find it odd that even though they based the film on the play, they ended up deviating from it so much. I enjoyed the film but my specialty is indigenous history in the americas, so it was really nice to hear the opinion of a historian whose actually specialized in this.
@ellpeetee2069
@ellpeetee2069 2 ай бұрын
The armour is all over the place historically. It's equivalent to a US Civil War movie with some soldiers dressed like WW2 GIs.
@Zemlod
@Zemlod 2 ай бұрын
Which will happen in time.
@thecenter3642
@thecenter3642 2 ай бұрын
@@Zemlod you guys are literally all talk. You won't do anything because you can't do anything.
@Zemlod
@Zemlod 2 ай бұрын
@@thecenter3642 I am actually (for one) being serious here. I am certail there will come a time, when the exact details of ww1 and ww2 will start to be confused by audiences and producers alike. It will start with details. Wrong helmets or wrong guns perhaps. And nobody apart from a few nerds will notice. Compare: if a french regiment at waterloo is shown with peninsular greatcoats instead of the proper 100days gear, will anybody notice today? And it's only 200 years...
@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479
@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 Ай бұрын
Its armour is more historically authentic. Some pieces are out of place but that is a bag stretch of time you just pointed out. Here the lay person won't even notice and many historians don't. And it's much easier to excuse the older bits of gear present too.
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont Ай бұрын
The armors looks like cardboard.
@Amoranda1066
@Amoranda1066 2 ай бұрын
The King is a fantastic film that I keep going back to again and again. I know that sounds really cliché, but it's the absolute truth. I love films set in historical time periods - can never have enough of those.
@DarthPepis
@DarthPepis 2 ай бұрын
yea its not an "historical" film in the sense of respecting history but more a medieval drama based on Shakepeare. And is the best thing i ever watch on netflix and probably it will remain being it for as long as netflix exist xd
@Amoranda1066
@Amoranda1066 2 ай бұрын
@@DarthPepis in the entertainment industry, when you shoot a period film with period costumes, period locations, period music, Makeup, it's considered an "historical film."
@DarthPepis
@DarthPepis 2 ай бұрын
@@Amoranda1066 ya, ya, i was just pointing the irony of calling "historical film" this things that play tetris with historical facts. How you would call a film based in ancient Rome that show Rome exactly as it was well ofc we will call it "historical film" So, its the same thing this acurate film and Braveheart? well, ofc not. But we dont have the acurate ones cuz hollywood thinks that people wouldn't pay to watch it and can only be entertained by "play tetris with history" films But we would call both things the same if we had both things and people would be literate enougth to differenciate one from another?
@SKILLIUSCAESAR
@SKILLIUSCAESAR 2 ай бұрын
@@DarthPepislol I like the Tetris analogy
@Amoranda1066
@Amoranda1066 2 ай бұрын
@@DarthPepis Yup. We have historical films and historical documentaries. Would be great if people understood the difference. :) I do love them both, though.
@Joycemcnamara
@Joycemcnamara 2 ай бұрын
This was really fantastic. It really cleared up a lot of questions I had as there are so many Henry’s!.
@mrmaxx4400
@mrmaxx4400 2 ай бұрын
Excellent critique of the film. I particularly like your detailed commentary and think King Henry should have used the Bard's speech on the eve of battle. I enjoyed every minute of this presentation.
@andrewjohnston9115
@andrewjohnston9115 2 ай бұрын
In fairness Shakespeare was writing some 170 years later than the reign of Henry V, so verbal history, stories passed down by word of mouth could realistically have been around for Shakespear to pick up on and build the character of Prince Hal - I'm not saying thats what happened but it's possible the Prince Hal was part of the story of Henry V, don't you think?
@laughingoutloud5742
@laughingoutloud5742 2 ай бұрын
I agree!
@vashsunglasses
@vashsunglasses 2 ай бұрын
Sure it's possible but a historian has to focus on the availible evidence.
@OdeInWessex
@OdeInWessex 2 ай бұрын
@@vashsunglasses Real historians do, Hollywood film makers needn't bother apparently.
@johnbyrne2055
@johnbyrne2055 2 ай бұрын
While it was likely that there was an oral tradition of passing on tales of Agincourt, Shakespeare mainly used the chronicles of Raphael Holinshed and Edward Hall. Sometimes lifting the text verbatim in small chunks. However, these histories were never primarily concerned with accuracy so much as passing on moral lessons for future generations. Also, while historical accuracy in cinema is important to some extent: Henry pulling up to the battle in a Range Rover breaks the forth wall. Having a knight fight with his visor up does not. Ultimately, cinema is about entertainment and taking the viewer on an emotional journey, and on this score I think the film does very well.
@misolgit69
@misolgit69 2 ай бұрын
don't forget old Will would have to be fully aware of current political scenarios as well
@hhiimmddoo
@hhiimmddoo 2 ай бұрын
As a person in the military his speech in this movie hits harder than a freight train at full speed
@soyboy6
@soyboy6 4 күн бұрын
Agree, completely disagree about what he said about the speech
@IrishEye
@IrishEye 2 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed the movie. It was after seeing this that I knew how good Timothee Chalamet would be as Paul Atreides in Dune.
@cyclofeedubox8332
@cyclofeedubox8332 Ай бұрын
Whilst the speech may not be quite on a par with the words Shakespeare put into Henry’s mouth, the way in which this young actor conveys the message is outstanding. I love how this film gives a more realistic sense of medieval royalty overall too, a stark contrast to the almost comically “evil” depiction of English monarchy in say, Braveheart. There is far more nuance, far more danger, far more uncertainty etc
@tinawetzel3912
@tinawetzel3912 2 ай бұрын
I’m from the US but love learning about all things in the Viking, Medieval & Tudor time periods. Until u explained @ the end about how Catherine de Valois marries Owen Tudor, I never quite put the pieces together for where King Henry VII fit in. Most of the documentaries I’ve seen say King Henry VII was only “loosely” related to be a true heir in order to discredit his rein. For someone like myself not having learned the history of England in school, it can get a bit confusing @ times. Thank u so much for explaining it as u did. It makes complete sense now.
@SKILLIUSCAESAR
@SKILLIUSCAESAR 2 ай бұрын
I remember having the same a-ha moment 😂 English royal lineage tree is a hot mess
@tinawetzel3912
@tinawetzel3912 2 ай бұрын
@@SKILLIUSCAESARNo doubt, especially Wars of the Roses & earlier 😂. But I still can’t get enough of it 😊.
@sarfcowst
@sarfcowst 2 ай бұрын
It's surprising how confusing it gets.But the fact that Henry Tudor's grandmother was the former Queen Catherine was prestigious but not relevant to his claim to the throne as she had no right to the throne herself. Henry's mother, Margaret Beaufort was the last heir of the Dukes of Beaufort, descended from the 4th son of Edward III (John of Gaunt) as were Henry V and Henry VI. His royal claim was not as strong as the Yorkist line, which was descended from the 5th son of Edward III in the male line but also in the (only surviving) female line of the 2nd son of Edward III. This was the main reason why Henry marrried the princess Elizabeth of York after he got the throne. She was the senior heir to the throne as her brothers and their children were dead and she was the eldest daughter of Edward IV, who had had the best overall claim. Thanks to those connections, nobody ever disputed the Tudors as monarchs.
@tinawetzel3912
@tinawetzel3912 2 ай бұрын
Same here! 😊
@tinawetzel3912
@tinawetzel3912 2 ай бұрын
@@sarfcowstthank u so much for explaining!!! It makes sense😊
@laughingoutloud5742
@laughingoutloud5742 2 ай бұрын
49:39 😂 at the Kill Bill siren 🚨
@lesteraponte5734
@lesteraponte5734 Ай бұрын
I knew watching this that it wasn't historically accurate, but I still enjoyed it. Thank you for all the background and insight. One thing i found ironic about this movie is that Henry V is played by Timotheé Chalamet, who is part French and can speak the language, while the Dauphin is played by English actor Robert Pattison.
@EndingSimple
@EndingSimple 2 ай бұрын
I was not aware that the Tudor line has come from that marriage. Talk about things going full circle.
@SKILLIUSCAESAR
@SKILLIUSCAESAR 2 ай бұрын
Not sure the shape is a circle/that the usurper’s son’s widow is any kind of starting point lol🤔
@thomasspeltdoorn8287
@thomasspeltdoorn8287 Ай бұрын
Very good breakdown. Personally I get goosebumps every time Henry gives his final speech before the battle. It's a movie I must have seen over 10 times and have recommended to anyone who wants and doesnt want to hear it :) I like this film that much.
@jmbailey7220
@jmbailey7220 Ай бұрын
I really appreciate this approach of analyzing popular culture depictions of history to teach the actual history.
@DanielaVilu
@DanielaVilu 2 ай бұрын
Matt Lewis should do The White Queen for a giggle!
@patrickb1303
@patrickb1303 24 күн бұрын
Replacing the Shakespeare speech for the make it England speech was a travesty haha
@kamikazemelon787
@kamikazemelon787 25 күн бұрын
I love this movie - being an adaptation of Shakespeare rather than claiming to be a historical film (it gets a bit muddy there, but still) means I can forgive its inaccuracies. It’s just masterfully done IMO. This and Outlaw King are a fun double-feature for a medieval romp night.
@XaviRonaldo0
@XaviRonaldo0 2 ай бұрын
As far as historical accuracy goes this film is terrible. But, it's a great piece of historical fiction as Shakespeare was known for producing
@SKILLIUSCAESAR
@SKILLIUSCAESAR 2 ай бұрын
I thought it was a super boring fictional production as well
@lorddiethorn
@lorddiethorn 26 күн бұрын
It’s poorly written on many levels
@ThePhDSpanish
@ThePhDSpanish 29 күн бұрын
I enjoyed this movie more than I thought I would. Like most historical dramas, it's not 100% accurate but it tells a good and grounded story all the same
@wolvves4293
@wolvves4293 2 ай бұрын
Love these videos
@taurus_says_hi8404
@taurus_says_hi8404 Ай бұрын
Whoever does the video chapters, I love you
@Fika_Break
@Fika_Break 2 ай бұрын
One thing missed by this historian is that cannon were used at Harfleur.
@pratyushjoshi1785
@pratyushjoshi1785 Ай бұрын
Glad someone else noticed this. Cannons were extensively used at Harfleur. Seems like even expert historians forget that there was a huge overlap between the age of longbows and the age of gunpowder. And it blows my mind that small guns, mortars and cannons had already been deployed at Crecy almost 70 years earlier!
@mumblealice17
@mumblealice17 2 ай бұрын
I think it was a good choice to make Henry less interested in going to war with France and that it takes several events to force his hand. It aligns with our modern view on war as a last resort so we are more able to relate to Henry. Fantastic film with some really nice attention to detail compare to other medieval films 👌
@kirkbarnett1231
@kirkbarnett1231 Ай бұрын
Also id love to see a series on the plantagenets....all the mystery and mysticism at the beginning of that line is truly interesting in my humble opinion
@connormayfield1999
@connormayfield1999 2 ай бұрын
King Henry’s speech before the final battle might be one of my favorite monologues ever! Haha had to skip him laughing at it
@robertoprestigiacomo253
@robertoprestigiacomo253 2 ай бұрын
The armors in this movie are not good. They're acceptable because the average viewers wouldn't know anything about it, but looking at the various styles and the extras in the background you can notice either non existent armor designs or armor/protector designs from different centuries all mixed together. Not to mention that chainmail is visibly not sized correctly to the actors.
@Spielkalb-von-Sparta
@Spielkalb-von-Sparta 2 ай бұрын
Indeed. Take a look at 10:58. Pieces of metal and mail lumped together. Nothing fits. Especially the big gap under the chin looks ridiculous. And that's supposed to be the armour of a king?
@LydiaArnold-h6b
@LydiaArnold-h6b 2 ай бұрын
Looks to me like Henry VIII era armor rather than the plate and chainmale worn in Medieval England. Monty Python got it right in Holy Grail 😂
@evanhughes7609
@evanhughes7609 2 ай бұрын
Ever worn mail? It's not form-fitting. If it were, you wouldn't be able to fight!
@robertoprestigiacomo253
@robertoprestigiacomo253 2 ай бұрын
@@evanhughes7609 I did. If you wear a hanging piece of mail shirt, it defeats the purpose of having it and it's more uncomfortable if it hangs too much. Obviously it doesn't stretch so it can't be too tight fitting but it's not as loose as you see in movies, including this one
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont Ай бұрын
The armors looks like cardboard.
@William_seb_daddy
@William_seb_daddy Ай бұрын
Matt love this story hate how Henry iv is represented. Great film. Be good to get a podcast on Henry iv on gone medieval
@muradi9058
@muradi9058 14 күн бұрын
I beg to differ about the speeech, it got me going at least!
@annkelly0072
@annkelly0072 2 ай бұрын
Great video! Even though this was historically inaccurate, as Hollywood often is, I loved this movie.
@spencermccormick299
@spencermccormick299 2 ай бұрын
Great video as always
@cindyj5522
@cindyj5522 Ай бұрын
I really enjoy your historical analysis and the comparison between films and reality. It isn't necessary to include strange, silly sarcasm in order to make things interesting.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Ай бұрын
11:15 Unfortunately, visors down scenes are also based on filming convenience: they're used for combat scenes with obvious stunt doubles.
@lorddiethorn
@lorddiethorn 26 күн бұрын
They also wouldn’t be down in closed quarters combat for the lack of the ability to see and breath
@TheAngelnoir
@TheAngelnoir 2 ай бұрын
I love this movie, I can’t put my finger on exactly why but I’ve watched it over 10 times.
@Błeed_GG
@Błeed_GG 2 ай бұрын
The music makes this film even more better
@ritafleming1763
@ritafleming1763 2 ай бұрын
Yes, really enjoyed the music from The King
@OGKenG
@OGKenG 2 ай бұрын
I've been listening to the Gone Medieval podcast for about a year and a half and I've listened to every episode up until February 23, 2023 and I've never seen what Matt Lewis looked like until now. I assumed he was a bit older.
@fnyquist8779
@fnyquist8779 2 ай бұрын
I thought the pre battle speech was good and fit well with the younger, more hot headed Henry V in the movie. The Shakespeare speech is still a better speech and would probably work better to motivate a medieval soldier. The points about “Make it England!” feels a bit like a modern form of nationalism that English soldiers probably wouldn’t care about.
@Spruce-Moose
@Spruce-Moose 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Great video and just what I needed actually! I'm currently listening to a podcast that delves into the 100 years war and Henry's invasion of France so the timing couldn't be better. I was even watching clips of this movie last week haha.
@SKILLIUSCAESAR
@SKILLIUSCAESAR 2 ай бұрын
Which pod, any good?
@Spruce-Moose
@Spruce-Moose 2 ай бұрын
@@SKILLIUSCAESAR The Rest Is History.
@twiztedsynz
@twiztedsynz 2 ай бұрын
Interesting analysis. I didn't see the movie but when I started to watch this breakdown and it started with Henry Hotspur Percy I got really invested. Going through genealogy there's a tie back in my family tree to him so I really got interested from the start. Thanks for this breakdown!
@ianross04
@ianross04 2 ай бұрын
This is a first class dissection of this fascinating period
@nikhtose
@nikhtose 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for a solid historical analysis of the film. I only add the typical Hollywood imposition of English dialogue, this time between Henry and Charles VI (the one with the Dauphin being fake to begin with). English kings, and the English court, were French-speaking right up to the Tudors, so the conversation would have been in French.
@daveemerson6549
@daveemerson6549 Күн бұрын
Henry's performance at the Battle of Shewsbury in life was even more badass. After being struck in the face with an arrow that penetrated six inches into his head and lodged by his spine, he continued fighting on *with an arrow sticking out of his face* for 30 minutes until being dragged away by his own men.
@iBraap
@iBraap 6 күн бұрын
I was waiting for you to mention the artillery choice. I understand that in this time period cannons were just starting to be used, but it wasn’t chosen for the film because it would look out of place. But that technology existed.
@shadowmane55
@shadowmane55 2 ай бұрын
I love this movie, the soundtrack is sublime and it is beautifully shot.
@missyme2673
@missyme2673 2 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed the movie and thank you for your expertise analysing it. I've followed your work for a while now and I really enjoyed hearing your take on the movie. The one thing I've never been able to stomach, is Shakespeare and his distortion of historical facts and people taking it as gospel. It makes me really angry and I know my view on Shakespeare is highly controversial but it's my opinion! I saw in another persons comment that they'd like you to do an analysis on the film Outlaw King, I'd like to second that please! 😊
@sugarfalls1
@sugarfalls1 Ай бұрын
It's very interesting to find out what's historically incorrect about this movie, although I haven't seen it. I'm learning a lot about the history of Henry IV and Vth from this ! Thank you Matt Lewis!!
@jackson857
@jackson857 2 ай бұрын
I quite enjoyed the film. I don't think we've had a decent Netflix medieval historical film since this one.
@breaking180podcast
@breaking180podcast Ай бұрын
I’d love to see you guys cover “A Plague Tale Innocence & Requiem”!!
@petrasabina70
@petrasabina70 2 ай бұрын
Loved this breakdown, Matt. Thank you!
@carlethal2783
@carlethal2783 2 ай бұрын
Matt Lewis, splendid job. Having a MA in Medieval History, I a,m really happy to see an accurate exposition of reality vs Hollywood's attempt to play to drama, in an effort to create a movie drama, at the cost of fact and reality and known history.
@CoachLouise
@CoachLouise 2 ай бұрын
For me, the value of films like this is that they get me curious to dig deeper into a subject. Sometimes I am disappointed to find out how wrong the film is and other times I'm motivated to take an even deeper look. If it still stands up as a piece of art...inaccuracies not withstanding...win win.😊
@sammythemc
@sammythemc 2 ай бұрын
The reality of the coronation gift of a tennis ball (or in some versions crate of tennis balls) aside, it was always an interesting detail to me, because you could take it either way: is it a calculated insult about his age or a reminder of a time he was beaten, or is it like when Walter White got his billionaire friend who has everything a packet of ramen as a nostalgic reminder of a simpler, friendlier time?
@freyatilly
@freyatilly 2 ай бұрын
Very nice work. Though I wont see the film it was fascinating to hear you go through the actual history in comparison. I notice in the photographic framing of Hal's return to England to confront the conspiritor that the silhouette of his face mirrors that of the original portrait. So there are some nods to real history.
@vikingsundlof9040
@vikingsundlof9040 2 ай бұрын
I knew i had seen Paul Atredies somewhere earlier
@alexcaloca6566
@alexcaloca6566 Ай бұрын
I liked the movie a lot. I really love historical input even more. Reality is far more complex and brutal. Thank you
@Carelock
@Carelock 2 ай бұрын
I’m a fan, regardless of any errors.
@KyleBDoeden
@KyleBDoeden 2 ай бұрын
This was one of my favorite movies of the past few years. For a historicalish war movie, it has so many top tier funny performances.
@IdealX-fr4eg
@IdealX-fr4eg Ай бұрын
Omitting the St Crispin Days speech in some form is criminal
@laneoswego6989
@laneoswego6989 2 ай бұрын
I thought turning around the “Southampton Plot” to a French assassination was really cool, another great video, oh and btw you got it right as far as I can tell Thanks Matthew
@caroles5502
@caroles5502 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your comments on this film. Though I liked the look of the film, a lot of it pissed me off. It would have been so much more interesting if it had been more historically accurate - a missed opportunity. I didn’t like that Henry is portrayed as a sort of peace-loving flower child, when he most certainly wasn’t. Too much of the film was a lie in one way or other.
@watch-Dominion-2018
@watch-Dominion-2018 2 ай бұрын
Will you please do a similar video on Henry V 1989?
@LS-xs7sg
@LS-xs7sg 2 күн бұрын
He isn't always portrayed the best but Henry IV was an amazingly skilled man and force of character. It is worth watching "the rest is history" podcast about him
@lianefehrle9921
@lianefehrle9921 2 ай бұрын
After you putting this movie together, very well I might add, I won’t have to see the movie. Thank you so much in the telling of what was done right and wrong about this film.
@craigriseley3149
@craigriseley3149 2 ай бұрын
I liked the speech as a ex solider it's straight to the point that yes we are all going to die one day so why not die fighting. The other speech is good but to Westend show
@kevinmcqueenie7420
@kevinmcqueenie7420 2 ай бұрын
The English had been fighting dismounted since at least Crecy about 80 or so years ago, and probably before. Movie tension is movie.
@chrisearle1542
@chrisearle1542 2 ай бұрын
He kept fighting for half an hour after an arrow in the face....hardcore man.
@kevincharles1983
@kevincharles1983 22 күн бұрын
Love your accent when you say "battle "
@TheDimonTube
@TheDimonTube 2 ай бұрын
Really like the movie, the music is top tier imo.
@hkb5134
@hkb5134 26 күн бұрын
Video for 'Shogun' please?
@JoeBuchanan1346
@JoeBuchanan1346 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact Thomas brother of Henry the V was killed at the battle of Bauge and when killed a distant kinsman of mine who struck the lethal blow, Sir Maurice Buchanan, lifted the ducal crown in the air as a trophy and ever since that day that has been the symbol of my clan, clan Buchanan’s battle prowess
@longbowenjoyer2154
@longbowenjoyer2154 2 ай бұрын
Interesting, his brother John the Duke of Bedford repaid the death of Thomas later in the battle of Vernuil where sir Maurice Buchanan was killed in battle fighting the english. Almost poetic.
@JoeBuchanan1346
@JoeBuchanan1346 2 ай бұрын
@@longbowenjoyer2154 yeah
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 2 ай бұрын
When can we get a medieval movie that isn't so dark and drab with a bunch of grays and browns?
@merrymachiavelli2041
@merrymachiavelli2041 2 ай бұрын
We do get movies like that (Rosaline comes to mind), but generally speaking, those tend to have far _far_ less historical accuracy than this film does.
@luckyspurs
@luckyspurs 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, a lot of this one was set in boggy France in late October.
@evanhughes7609
@evanhughes7609 2 ай бұрын
The Dark(ly Lit) Ages
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 2 ай бұрын
@@luckyspurs Nah this is a constant theme in these movies
@blamatron
@blamatron 2 ай бұрын
Kingdom of Heaven had a pretty bright and cheery atmosphere once they left France
@kebhMI
@kebhMI Ай бұрын
I love this movie. Bought it. bought the soundtrack. Have watched about 5 times. Knew it wasn't accurate because it was s Shakespearean play. But greatly enjoyable. And who doesn't want to watch chalamet? My take on the theme was a man who was not war loving becomes so when pushed to the limits. Loss of Falstaff.
@williamtrimble_82ndabndiv
@williamtrimble_82ndabndiv 2 ай бұрын
Great video but couldn’t disagree more when it comes to the part about the speech being lackluster. That speech gave me chills when I watched it the first time. 37:20
@OdeInWessex
@OdeInWessex 2 ай бұрын
Could that have something to do with the speech rather than the actor delivering it? See Shakespeare Henry V.
@joshdearlove225
@joshdearlove225 2 ай бұрын
Thought exact same.
@DeathsHeadNihilism
@DeathsHeadNihilism Ай бұрын
Matt Lewis being very polite about a cluster-fuck of horrific inaccuracies that make the film pointless
@Defkin
@Defkin Ай бұрын
Terrific work
@Warentester
@Warentester 2 ай бұрын
Matt Lewis: "I'm sure dimeone will correct me, but i think they had a really good crack at some accurate armor" Toby Capwell: "Did someone mention me?"
@istapleton11
@istapleton11 2 ай бұрын
32:59 literally every French person would expect you to speak French then speak to you in English because you did it wrong
@niccoarcadia4179
@niccoarcadia4179 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! This movie is hard to get without a Netflix sub. I am one of those old guys who wants a physical copy of the film which is very difficult (instead of paying out monthly to one of the media giants). I may have to breakdown my principles just to watch it.
@Chilly_Billy
@Chilly_Billy 2 ай бұрын
If you're anything like me, Netflix isn't worth the occasional good movie. Lots of garbage for more and more money.
@niccoarcadia4179
@niccoarcadia4179 2 ай бұрын
@@Chilly_Billy You just saved me. I had a moment of weakness. I will pass on Netflix, thanks!
@taranullius9221
@taranullius9221 2 ай бұрын
I "sailed the seven seas" for it and it wasn't worth the bandwidth or the space it is currently taking up on my NAS.
@travis6992
@travis6992 Ай бұрын
Love these. Hope Netflix is giving you some loot for the advertising.
@stevenpowell1739
@stevenpowell1739 2 ай бұрын
Really interesting- I do have a question though- you mention that Henry chose the ground but I thought it was the French that did that
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