Waves Scheps Omni Channel

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Dan Worrall

Dan Worrall

Күн бұрын

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@MikeRolls
@MikeRolls 2 жыл бұрын
Note to Waves - drop development on all other projects and put 100% of your resources into developing the Womni Channel.
@TransistorLSD
@TransistorLSD 2 жыл бұрын
And also update every plugin to support up to 192khz samplerate + include optional oversampling in every plugin.
@KOjoeProduction
@KOjoeProduction 2 жыл бұрын
I might add like 10 aothers suggestions, but i don't have that time. But even if i had, why would i ? They are def losing a decent part of the VST market each years, wich i'm pretty happy about THB, because i think other less known compagnies really deserve to make their names a get a more fair amount of the giant cake that the VST market is. Pulsar, Wavesfactory, U-He, Analaog Obsession, Brainworx, Soundtoys, T-Racks, Audiothings, Ignite Amps, Softube, Fuse Audio, Kush, Elysia, (and many more), deserve MORE cake in my opinion. I a forgot or didn't mention some other awesome companies, i just mentionned some of them that came to my mind when it comes to emulating/getting inspired by some analog gears (with or without improvements/additionnal options). To me the PRE saturator in Omni without any gainreduction (automatic or not, def smells snake oil to me, wich i don't like at all coming from a multimilion compagny). They def need to either fire people or maybe just letting them enough time to finish their new products before releasing them. Well, ok, Omni have a good EQ, great comps and offers sweet coloring if used wisely and is quite cheap. That's not bad, but i exept more from a huge comany like Waves. They are decieving more and more people each new release for some reason or another. It's quite obv that they are not going anywhere that way. They actually selling some of their famous VST with 90% deals frequently, wich is not a good sign. I'm pretty sure the most brilliant engineers at Waves will be hired somewhere else in a heartbeat the day Waves will colapse. I would only miss Rbass nowadays i guess. But that's just me.If Waves colapse, it will be a good thing imo. Probably way too much selfish boomers/old thinking people in this company. I def won't cry that day, that's for sure
@VinceWhitacre
@VinceWhitacre 2 жыл бұрын
The market is increasingly going to be dominated by companies making somewhat limited plugins that sound great for cheap or free (Klanghelm, Analog Obsession, Valhalla, Kazrog) on one end, and super deep and detailed "pro" plugins like UA on the other. I don't really see a place for brands putting out $50-$150 stuff as the bulk of their range. But hey, I've been wrong before.
@lordgraga
@lordgraga 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope that someone else than Waves would do the Womni...
@TransistorLSD
@TransistorLSD 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordgraga fabfilter
@Hilde_mann
@Hilde_mann 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. The multiband gate trick on the tom mics is why I love your videos so much. I have no interest in the Sheps Omni Channel whatsoever but I knew your plugin reviews always have these random extremely enlightening tricks sprinkled in. I've been dealing with exactly this cymbal bleed problem recently and this is such a clever, yet simple solution. And I don't even need any extra plugins for it. Thanks ever so much for your insanely educational videos. If I had money, I would become a member, but for now, my gratitude is all I have to offer lol.
@rawdrian8393
@rawdrian8393 2 жыл бұрын
100% this!!!
@parentteachernight
@parentteachernight 2 жыл бұрын
Came to the comments to say the same thing. I look forward to trying this. Thanks Dan.
@KOjoeProduction
@KOjoeProduction 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I'm done with Waves (i still use Rbass tho), but Mr Worrall's videos are out of this world. There is basically no competittion when it comes to plugin in depth plugin reviews. I like the MixBuss TV guy, Mr Snake Oil is funny and sometimes insightful as well, but Dan Worrall is def the final boss of that game. No matter how far you've been in audio enginering geekery, Mr Worrall videos are always insightful, clever and sometimes even very funny
@Hilde_mann
@Hilde_mann 2 жыл бұрын
I immediately tried this on a mix I'm working on today and I can report it works phenomenally well. Like well to the point that it's ridiculous that this isn't common knowledge. It solved all my problems and healed my clinical depression.
@helmanfrow
@helmanfrow 2 жыл бұрын
It's true. Even though Dan does reviews better than essentially everyone else out there (I'm almost tempted to cross Waves off my blacklist and give them my money again), the greater value of these videos is in the engineering tips and tricks. I've been in the audio game for nearly 30 years and I learn at least one amazing thing with every new video.
@CHIG5748
@CHIG5748 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Waves fan but as some have stated here, a FAB FILTER channel strip is what we’re waiting for. Talk to the people Dan👍
@justincarrasco3680
@justincarrasco3680 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, fabfilter Pro-Womnichannel!
@Googahgee
@Googahgee 2 жыл бұрын
Either them or Tokyo Dawn!
@ezrabrownstein3237
@ezrabrownstein3237 2 жыл бұрын
have Saturn, pro q, pro g, pro c, and pro l with option to move around signal flow and add an extra processing unit...that would be amazing
@kirkegodfrey414
@kirkegodfrey414 2 жыл бұрын
I’d buy a fab filter Womni
@kwameeyiah
@kwameeyiah 2 жыл бұрын
Motion seconded with both hands and feet
@averagebedroomproducer5008
@averagebedroomproducer5008 2 жыл бұрын
There is literally nothing better than a Saturday morning, get my coffee and see Dan has a new video :)
@fckcptlsm
@fckcptlsm 2 жыл бұрын
how is it Saturday morning at your place?!
@helmanfrow
@helmanfrow 2 жыл бұрын
Truth. Almost makes me wish I still drank coffee.
@Zenvo-uu9tm
@Zenvo-uu9tm 2 жыл бұрын
@@fckcptlsm what's so surprising ?
@fckcptlsm
@fckcptlsm 2 жыл бұрын
lol i was already thinking it's sunday 😭
@rickblackers88
@rickblackers88 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i feel the same!!
@FrankPole
@FrankPole 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not the biggest “channel strips” fan because using them with a mouse is not the best feeling, BUT this plugin is everything I want from a *digital* channel strip. It feels great and it’s a pleasure to use it. I recommend it! It’s definitely worth the $29 I spent 👍🏻 But I 100% agree with you, Dan, about the flaws that it has. I just hope plugin developers start to think more about what is actually important to have in a plugin and not just about marketing.
@Intimatycal
@Intimatycal 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should watch Scheps videos about this plugin.
@icemike841
@icemike841 2 жыл бұрын
@@Intimatycal I would bet he has. Dan knows what he wants, that wouldn't make a significant difference in his opinions.
@FrankPole
@FrankPole 2 жыл бұрын
@@Intimatycal I saw it when I was trying the demo. I knew that it’s not the perfect plugin, but I liked the workflow so I got it anyway. PS. I remembered that I got it during a sale that allowed me to buy 1 plugin for $29 and a second one for $1. So I actually spent $15 on it. Considering I spent $29 for the Oxford Inflator, the Omni Channel was totally worth it LMAO
@MusokeMSK
@MusokeMSK 2 жыл бұрын
Frank, the PATCHER legend🙏 nice to hear your opinion on the omni too
@AlekVila
@AlekVila 11 ай бұрын
Another fantastic review. Thank you so much for doing this one.
@gfromshankside
@gfromshankside 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using this plugin quite a bit for about a year and this review was still helpful. Moreover I enjoyed it. Thank you.
@JunkyardSam
@JunkyardSam 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite channel strip, by far... and Dan's criticism is valid. Something (I think) not mentioned -- in the "insert" you can add another instance of any Omni Channel section which is handy (although it does appear expanded in a floating window.) But this allows you to have two SOC compressors or SOC EQs, etc. And lastly, if you look at "HEAVY" saturation you'll see that it IS like odd, except it adds a sort of soft-clipper which can be useful. A bit of saturated soft-clipping + compression + touch of limiting on the output can tame the dynamic range in a way that allows subsequent compression (submix, mixbus, etc.) to operate more smoothly! Great review!
@briancase6180
@briancase6180 2 жыл бұрын
The inner thing about Dan's videos that is truly amazing is that they always seem to exceed my expectations. I always expect excellence and insight and useful knowledge, but those aspects are always in greater quantity and magnitude than I expect. Cheers and thanks!
@Unders
@Unders 2 жыл бұрын
AHHH your giving me flash backs of a time i kept getting feedback with a outrageously dynamic vocalists. I remember feeling physically sick at how stressful that gig was, Much happier to nightclubs for years lol
@zeitakulobusta
@zeitakulobusta 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan. Haven't even watched this yet and I honestly feel like a brand new episode of some favourite tv unexpectedly appeared and I want to save it for later when I can watch it properly. A Womni Channel...sign me up right now.
@JesterMasque
@JesterMasque 2 жыл бұрын
Dan wanted to review the Scheps Omni, but ended up giving us all a fairly advanced “how-to” for channel processing. So much of the information here is used in almost every session. We appreciate all of the knowledge you drop here, sir! Also, I agree with a lot of the criticism of the strip itself, especially the lack of anti-aliasing & over-sampling. Is that why this always sounds so plastic to my ears mixing in 96k? Same with most Waves plugins, if I’m honest. But it has been fun to use on more lo-fi channels, like bass guitar, organ, deep pads.. Are plugins fun? Waves did make this kinda “fun” to use despite its flaws, but I have had more “fun” using CHANNEV by Analog Obsession. If WaveShell could handle over-sampling with the appropriate filtering, the Omni Channel could be one of the best tools on the market. With the other tweaks mentioned, this could become one of Waves’ best plugins ever.
@peterdunne612
@peterdunne612 2 жыл бұрын
I came to the same conclusion. Best channel strip overall. I have a license. Use it most for rock mixes. Thanks Dan, entertaining and informative as ever! 👍
@alexeyayzin8512
@alexeyayzin8512 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video on the NLS Channel /Bus
@PASHKULI
@PASHKULI 2 жыл бұрын
music is a bit too loud in the background, ducking? the plugin is good for the price; bad is Wave Central Manager installer
@musicbydavidsmith
@musicbydavidsmith 2 жыл бұрын
This video, much like all of them, are so well streamlined in how your entire demonstration and explanation is seamlessly stitched together with audio behind it, poking through at just the right points, it should correctly be considered artful. I really appreciate you and am learning so much. Great stuff.
@danepaulstewart8464
@danepaulstewart8464 Жыл бұрын
SO much to say.. EXCELLENT review. As a semi-retired engineer and mixer with 15 of my full-time years spent in the fully analog studios of the 80’s and 90’s, I LOVE the best new channel strips. Mainly because they allow me a workflow that best matches how I am used to thinking. This is the most elaborate of all the channel strips that I have seen, and so it will bring the greatest amount of flexibility and choice to the user. A great many times the quality of a finished piece relies heavily on simplicity of thought as the process moves forward. I think THIS channel strip capitalizes on this approach better than any of the others do. … a lot of people are going to experience great success because of this piece of kit that Mr. Scheps and the Waves team have put together for us here. SCORE!! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@RJEnriquez
@RJEnriquez 2 жыл бұрын
What a legend! Creates, designs, and pitches a new plugin as he reviews another. And, on top of that, provides advance tutorials.
@JetLagBeat
@JetLagBeat 2 жыл бұрын
I personally wouldn't mind if all of your videos were this length. Great video!
@dudemcgee256
@dudemcgee256 4 ай бұрын
Since this video, Waves have added 24 db filters with resonance control on each. That is now my favorite part of this plug-in. You can really push the highs and they sound smooth as silk. After falling in love with that, I'm now considering purchasing Volcano 3. I never thought that a non linear filter plugin would be so desirable, as I didn't understand the utility, but I now know that the rest of the sound is built off of the filtered signal. You can push things so much more while preserving headroom. Thank you for this invaluable piece of wisdom Dan. It has improved my mixes more than anything else.
@BojanBojovic
@BojanBojovic 2 жыл бұрын
Video production quality is incredible as usual, still not sure how you plan and shoot all this so it looks like everything is happening in real time, while actually there is a lot of editing done underneath. Magnificent job Dan. 🖖
@danielhertzmaybe
@danielhertzmaybe 2 жыл бұрын
Notice when he demonstrates the effects of autogain on the u-he Presswerk, that part of the video definitely stands out to me in that sense.
@ReynaldoIvanPena
@ReynaldoIvanPena Жыл бұрын
Really wish you'd use vocals to sample compressors, EQ and channel strips in general
@michaelangeloturtle4705
@michaelangeloturtle4705 2 жыл бұрын
On the waves website where you can purchase the omnichannel there's a video that Andrew made. It's a semi deep dive and he goes over all the parameters in detail, why they're called certain things he explains why the gate section is called "Close" and a bunch of other helpful stuff. Keep in mind we're talking $29 as opposed to over $150 for any "Fab Filter" products unless purchased in the full bundle which is really the only way to go considering their whole offering has nearly reached perfection. You really do have the best product deep dives on KZbin, in my humble opinion. So thank you for that contribution to the audio community, may you create many many more great videos that can help engineers of all levels of experience. 🙏 DW
@JimAlfredson
@JimAlfredson 2 жыл бұрын
The tip about using a multi band compressor to separately process the highs and lows of a close miked tom in order to attenuate cymbal wash is brilliant. It makes me wonder if a similar trick could be used on acoustic bass. One of the banes of my existence is recording live jazz gigs and getting cymbals into the acoustic bass mic. You can’t EQ them out because you want to hear the attack of the fingers on the strings of the bass. I’m going to try it!
@trackqueenstudios
@trackqueenstudios 8 ай бұрын
I've just seen this video and I can gladly report that waves has listened - at least somewhat. Over the past year there have been a couple updates, including: the resonance option on both filters in the pre section, improved gain structure on the saturation and a fourth saturation mode called "crunch" and a fourth compressor model, called "soft". In addition I sometimes insert another SSL channel strip plugin by waves to get more EQ options and another compressor. Especially for a fairly new audio engineer this is great, because I can use only this and learn to use it well, rather than switching between a lot of plugins.
@Ash-qx6zc
@Ash-qx6zc 2 жыл бұрын
@Dan Worrall, have you tried the Sonnox Oxford Drum Gate? Your current set up is so OTT. It can detect Snares and Toms separately from one another using AI, meaning it isn't threshold dependent. It also has a shaped decay thing so you can let the low end ring out while clamping down on the high.
@whistletom
@whistletom 2 жыл бұрын
+1 For the Sonnox gate. That thing works like magic. It kind of does everything Dan's method does but it takes about 2 seconds to dial in.
@CTS2022
@CTS2022 2 жыл бұрын
It’s my number 1 plugin, goes on everything! Even installed it on all our vMix streaming rigs too… so useful! Also, you can add Scheps modules in that extra plugin slot too… so you can have more EQ for example… Nice video, very thorough!
@ReeseWitherknife
@ReeseWitherknife 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew you could add more Scheps modules, that's hugely useful to me! Thanks for sharing.
@raphlasne
@raphlasne 2 жыл бұрын
I own this channel strip since quite some time. And I'm VERY far to have mastered all its capacities. Thank you for your detailed info on this plugin.
@palsheldon6520
@palsheldon6520 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.. I've been using it since it came out and use it quite often.. great to see a deep dive into it though.. the over sampling problem thing has got me second guessing that saturation section.. that I often use.. Thanks, You Rock!
@thegigisup_studio
@thegigisup_studio 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing as usual! I'm really curious how Dan would like the Infinistrip by PSP Audio, that's a truly modular channel strip and I find it basically perfect for every mix I do.
@djsmithers99
@djsmithers99 Жыл бұрын
Damn, these videos are so good. So much extra knowledge chucked in there. The gate ducker trick for the toms is genius. The thorough and logical steps to justify his points of views. And then there is his voice. The voice of champions. So good
@roberteismann1929
@roberteismann1929 2 жыл бұрын
You can use the insert slot to use another omni channel and have two of everything.
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 6 ай бұрын
The EQ in this Scheps channel is quite special. It has a trait I’ve missed stepping away from hardware and that is that it’s hard to find a bad sound. I suspect carefully chosen bell shapes have a lot to do with that. When building a hardware EQ, one would put a lot of time into that detail and here is that same care in a plugin. Very impressed.
@Breakdown0
@Breakdown0 2 жыл бұрын
I've been so looking forward to this video, loved it! My favourite bang-for-the-buck plugin. Something worth mentioning: you CAN have more instances of that lovely EQ, just insert it in the extra slot, it doesn't just work for any Waves plugin but also any module from the Omni-Channel. You could also have two compressors, if you wanted to. In fact, someone from the Waves forum (can't share the link) found out that when you only engage the compressor (FET or OPTO), you get a very similar anaglogue response to the Waves NLS plugin. Would have hoped you had gone over that characteristic a little!
@SunshineHB
@SunshineHB 2 жыл бұрын
This is literally the only channel strip plugin I like. I use it all the time now.
@GingerDrums
@GingerDrums 2 жыл бұрын
I love the omni. The presets are really well done too.
@KOjoeProduction
@KOjoeProduction 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you. Any plugin realeased by some big name compagny that doen't have any gain staging option going with a PRE disto or such (automatic or not) doesn't deserve a single dieme imo. It's snake oil. Perdiod. They know that they could, but care more about the millions they do each year (sometimes by fooling us with adding half a DB there and there to exept us to find it's sounding better by tweaking buttons) than anything else. Waves can let me have Rbass and go straight to hell for what i'm conserned. They deserve a massive boycott. As i said somewhere above, the day Waves will colapse, their most brilliant engineers will be hired somewhere else in a heartbeat or fund their own brands, or will leave Waves before the final colapse. The VST market is huge, that ain't gonna be a problem at all for them. And I def think it will be great for the future the audio world when it will happen. And it will, you can mark my words
@whistletom
@whistletom 2 жыл бұрын
@@KOjoeProduction Show me on the doll where Waves hurt you. It's amazing to me that anyone can get this animated about a plugin company. Nobody's forcing you to buy their plugins. And focusing on one small inconvenience of gain staging while ignoring everything else the plugin does right is kind of silly. The Omni channel of all waves plugins is probably the least worthy of criticism because it works really well and does a lot.
@KOjoeProduction
@KOjoeProduction 2 жыл бұрын
​@@whistletom They don't hurt me, i'm still in love with Rbass as i said I think i also already explained well enough why i don't like where this company is going I won't buy anything from them anymore, that's just what people that think like me need to do, that's all bud Have fun with Omni, good for you :)
@KOjoeProduction
@KOjoeProduction 2 жыл бұрын
Well ok, I'll take an exemple, which might be kinda bad, idk, i'm hella tired man, but well, this is what it is : in fact, I hate what the Heineken Group is doing on a global scale, but if it's the only beer available i'll happily buy it and still sleep well. It just happens that i have many other awesome options and can happily boycott the Heineken Group while supporting some local awesome guys that brew some delicious beers :)
@JAMPROSOUND
@JAMPROSOUND 2 жыл бұрын
Omni Channel has become a favorite for many applications over many styles of music. There are odd things about it for sure but I've found several cool things I can do now. I love Dan's videos and am excited to see what methods he comes up with.
@JAMPROSOUND
@JAMPROSOUND 2 жыл бұрын
For cleaning up general noise floor issues and bleed on tracks, the expander can be pretty great.
@BeatsAndMeats
@BeatsAndMeats 2 жыл бұрын
I freaking LOVE the Omni Channel! For a dunce like me, I can completely understand all the buttons and knobs and compare moves quickly and not spend any extra time dipshitting around.
@josephpbrown
@josephpbrown 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I dislike Waves, this is one of the 2 markets they have covered. Less serious, less experienced DAW users who shouldn't need to _learn_ every plugin they own, and just follow the idiot-proof simply-named controls. The other, which is completely unrelated to anything here, is out-of-the box engineers and producers who know a real studio better than a DAW, and just want that "1176 sound" or that "Pultec colour" and just click on the plugin named after the thing it models. I've gone on a tangent again. Bugger.
@BeatsAndMeats
@BeatsAndMeats 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephpbrown PSP makes something called the Infinistrip, and it works much the same way but has quite a bit more options, and it sounds great.
@josephpbrown
@josephpbrown 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeatsAndMeats Nice. channel strips have never been my thing but I'll give it a try.
@CreativeMindsAudio
@CreativeMindsAudio 2 жыл бұрын
what a great video! yeah the omni channel has some great features in it. I just rarely reach for it these days. great tip on the expansion trick though! i also only really use gates on toms and sometimes on snare/kick, but usually only if it isn't recorded that great. I often duck my overheads if the snare is too loud that way cymbals and toms are a bit more focused in them. but good move to use it with the tom sidechain!
@verygood7804
@verygood7804 2 жыл бұрын
I love Dan, his voice, his reviews, and his Waves shilling
@SMOMEGA1
@SMOMEGA1 2 жыл бұрын
Then you will love his twitter page
@cjcurcio
@cjcurcio 9 ай бұрын
Excellent review! Thanks very much, Dan!
@MarkHelderMusic
@MarkHelderMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, thanks for the flashback there, Dan. I will never forget the sheer terror I felt when I have accidentally punched the Auto-Gain button during a live gig. That squeal haunts me to this day...
@ThisGuyDude
@ThisGuyDude 6 ай бұрын
28:43 what is that lift towards a lower ratio which occurs after the knee? There is some kind of allowance of reduced gain reduction and increased pass through of signal strength towards the right side of the graph. Is that effectively allowing the most strong signals to pass through at a level which is higher than the general gain reduction, such that it sounds more natural than if the loudest sounds had been fully compressed at the stated gain reduction level which had been applied to all the signals at a lower strength?
@collegestatistics
@collegestatistics Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video and it definitely wasn't too long at all. I have owned this plugin for about two years and it is one of my favorites. But I never use the gate because it has no look-ahead. I wish instead of the gate there was another one of those great DS-squared’s. I feel like two just isn't enough and I have at times loaded up the Omni Channel twice just because it's one of the easiest plug-ins to tame those nasty frequencies because it's just so easy to press that little solo button and adjust the threshold. So in less than a minute you've taken out the garbage! And his EQ is so easy to use! I feel like easiness and fun-ness must have been in the foreground of his consciousness when he designed this. His compressor isn't my favorite compressor, but again it's just so easy to use and you can set the release time with an actual number as a starting place. (15,000 or 30,000 divided by the BPM usually works nicely for me as a starting place for release time for certain applications) And I've used his compressor as a side chain-compressor too, but for voiceovers I use the ReaComp because it's easier and has a look-ahead. The other reason I love this plugin so much is because it just sounds great and having input and output at the touch of your hands easily and quickly is another fantastic feature. If you own this plug-in you have no excuse for screwing up your gain staging! So if he ever upgrades this I hope he gets rid of the gate, gives us two more of the DS squared modules, and Instead of the insert gives us an easy to use tape emulation or transformer emulation… or some other easy to use analog emulation. But nothing with bias controls or tape speeds or any such time-wasting controls! Another suggestion I would have would be for him to make the thing a little easier to automate. He could do that by having some kind of a little automation check box on the front of the unit because if you look at all those parameters, automation is an absolute nightmare. But I don't know if that's possible to be done. One of the reasons why I love the Puig Tech EQ by Waves is that it is so easy to automate. And, of course, it sounds great too. And aside from loving his Omni Channel I also love his Parallel Particles plug in. He is one smart dude!
@GloveBunniesVideos
@GloveBunniesVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Such an engrossing video! I've had the Omni Channel for a while now and I've only used on busses. It's great for tying all the elements together, warming them up and taking out any odd harshness. The DS2 works really well for this.
@zechpatrick
@zechpatrick 2 жыл бұрын
Man... you are are hero... I learned so much from you. That MB Pro Gate Trick is awesome. Big thanks for that
@LYSHEmusic
@LYSHEmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! Linking in a MS mode makes complete sense when you want to tweak some settings independently on mid and side and some settings leave exact for both (switching between link and unlink). The same for Duo mode for example on preamp module. Saturation will work differently in stereo mode versus dual mono, I think (or am I wrong?), while filters of course will sounds the same. That’s true that there’s no difference for stereo/duo mode on eq, at least logically.
@DanWorrall
@DanWorrall 2 жыл бұрын
You make some good points, but stereo / dual mono saturation implies some kind of linking for the saturation itself, which definitely isn't normal. But if there are in fact differences, I would be interested to know...
@peterjuulkristensen8425
@peterjuulkristensen8425 2 жыл бұрын
Dan, - first of all, thanks for all your great work. Really insightful stuff. Thx. Is it on purpose that you left out two (I find) quite useful features of the EQ? 1) The ability to "zoom in" on the frequency that one is dialing in, by holding the CTRL on your keyboard while dialing (also works on the DS2) and 2) The difference between the to mid-bands, "MID" and "TONE", which are not entirely the same. Yes, I know. Nit-picking! :-)
@DanWorrall
@DanWorrall 2 жыл бұрын
1. Not a feature I would ever use to be honest, I find bandpass filtering too extreme for that, I prefer to sweep a boost around. 2. Only knew about it because I read the manual! In practice I still use the lower band for low mids and the upper band for high mids, just because otherwise it gets confusing. Not something I found practically useful. 3. I also didn't mention the sidechain EQ in the compressor. Pretty sloppy job overall it seems...
@peterjuulkristensen8425
@peterjuulkristensen8425 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanWorrall Not at all, sir. I can't wait to try the sc drum gate- and the drum expander trick mentioned.
@foketesz
@foketesz Жыл бұрын
Including the Ev mix in the final comparison was a great touch.
@ErickT_MX
@ErickT_MX Жыл бұрын
Waiting for the 2nd part of this with the new strip channel
@LeKing56
@LeKing56 2 жыл бұрын
What I don't like about Waves compared to some other plugin developers like FabFilter for instance, is that they don't update and improve their released plugins, they just keep releasing new ones. The Omni channel is a very good example, it was a great idea and a very good plugin that has such potential if only they fixed the few flaws you mentioned and built upon that. But instead, they will rather release yet another strip. I think we don't need 10'000 plugins, we only need a bunch that we know will stand the test of time.
@googleuser318
@googleuser318 2 жыл бұрын
Yes here it is! I haven't had a chance to watch yet but looking forward to it.
@AlCapwn369
@AlCapwn369 2 жыл бұрын
Another incredibly educational and entertaining review of a well known and well loved plugin.
@makeperceive
@makeperceive 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I'd want a FabFilter channel strip. But I would like some kind of FabFilter plugin controller where the individual plugins are aware of each other in the mix, and one can control certain things in them from a single point (for example turn on oversampling for all instances of FabFilter plugins in the DAW session before mixdown).
@Al_Mac125
@Al_Mac125 2 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant channel strip. The compressor section is my go to for virtually all compression needs despite having a plethora of alternatives. As Scheps says, it takes a second or so to load the first instance by from there own they load pretty much immediately there after on that project.
@adamcain2990
@adamcain2990 2 жыл бұрын
Is that Pistola Kicks at the Leadmill?! If it is I've made it into a Dan Worrall vid, and playing drums too
@EqDior
@EqDior 2 жыл бұрын
Dan i just gotta say the knowledge that i gain from your vids are top tier. you definitely know your stuff. on a side note while looking at the issue with compensation after the saturation, what you could do is just you the insert slot after the saturation to add something to compensate the volumefor the rest of the chain. i prefer the Ds as you have 2 bands of dynamic eq to add as well.
@hyperactivists9390
@hyperactivists9390 2 жыл бұрын
Good one, Dan. Your presentations are always so clear and information-rich. And I agree, this is a top-notch plug-in. Also it adds something very important: coloration. I really like what it does to a mix buss. PS you CAN add more EQ‘s & compressors, the insert point can use Sheps module too ;)
@MattVorn
@MattVorn 2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with waves is that they're still using a really old plugin development architecture - in that they don't use oversampling/aliasing mitigation, GUIs even though now scalable still don't look that great - particularly with the 'waves header menu'. And the biggest thing is that waves love to shaft their customers with the 'waves update plan'. I for one now use Plugin Alliance, Fabfilter, Universal Audio etc... and since acquiring these 'better' plugins, I've not looked back AT ALL and have plugins that replace and do better what waves had done.
@hirnzircus
@hirnzircus Жыл бұрын
Thank you and i love your humour :) and the guitar in your track is great.
@Genital.Wartzenegger
@Genital.Wartzenegger 2 жыл бұрын
Having even started the video and I’m so excited.
@warthogstudios9784
@warthogstudios9784 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment about swapping out stuff for another EQ strip and Compressor strip. You can add these from the insert tab and have a duplicate EQ. Or Compressor or any waves plug-in you have.
@JJAAHH
@JJAAHH 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the gate and the saturation but I've never ended up using the comp or eq on a final mix, I always end up using something else for compression and eq. There is something really unsatisfying about the comp and eq.
@brentbusby74
@brentbusby74 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my findings. I really wanted To love this strip. I do love the idea of it, but to me, the eq and comp just aren’t great. I’d go so far as to say the compression is actually one of my least favorite of any of the thousand comp plug-ins I have.
@erhanmusician
@erhanmusician 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. The insert slot may be used for gain compensation after the saturation since it's movable, of course if it's not planned to use for anything else in advance, so it wouldn't be a critical issue in general I suppose.
@SpoxSpace
@SpoxSpace 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid and music. Thanks for that! I was using WSOC a lot and was happy with the results until I’ve stumbled across PSP Channel Strip. That thing is a clean beast with character at the same time. Highly recommend.
@weedywet
@weedywet 2 жыл бұрын
By the way just FYI, in that INSERT slot you can actually insert another Omni Channel!, which would then give you that extra compressor module you asked for.
@Fabio5Corde
@Fabio5Corde 2 жыл бұрын
Or just the compressor module, it is hidden in the list with a SOC in the name
@BrianBiscione
@BrianBiscione 2 жыл бұрын
increíble como siempre! destrozando plugins con Dan Worral, con objetividad y sustento. El truco de las compuertas multibanda vale ORO! Gracias Dan!!!
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly deep review! Andrew and Waves will be sending a check asap.
@marekvoosen
@marekvoosen 2 жыл бұрын
Best vidoes, so deep! Thanks. Now we´d like your opinion on PSPs Infinistrip and Slate VRM Mix Rack
@itbmm1369
@itbmm1369 2 жыл бұрын
I think guru Dan is cooking something with waves ^_^. I am very excited for this! I myself am using this Imperial Theme on reaper and Omni channel is my go-to plug in when processing guitars. I barely scratch the surface of this plug-in. thanks Dan!
@DanWorrall
@DanWorrall 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really not. You overestimate my influence! I was happy just to be invited on to the affiliate scheme :)
@AlexNiedt
@AlexNiedt 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the best reviews I've seen
@TransistorLSD
@TransistorLSD 2 жыл бұрын
Note: in the blank slot you can add more Scheps Omni modules, including a second EQ for example. So you can easily have an 8-band EQ then save it as a default preset.
@TransistorLSD
@TransistorLSD 2 жыл бұрын
I think Dan missed that because his plugin list is too big so he didn't notice additional Scheps Omni modules.
@chrisk.6246
@chrisk.6246 2 жыл бұрын
Facts. They somewhat unintuitively label these insert options as “SOC”, but they are very much there.
@MusokeMSK
@MusokeMSK 2 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed. I do this all the time 😁
@NeilBaylis
@NeilBaylis 2 жыл бұрын
Yes... but it still opens in a separate window.
@WildAnalog
@WildAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeilBaylis Even the SOC modules open separately? That's unfortunate and a silly oversight.
@MusokeMSK
@MusokeMSK 2 жыл бұрын
I love the omni channel🖤 Even when only using 1 or 2 modules. It does the job and sounds great.
@allpdmusic
@allpdmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Dan! (as always)
@AnteroJokinen
@AnteroJokinen 2 жыл бұрын
About the filters: I think it's great that they're from 20 to 20K because it allows me to make sweep effects with automation. 😊
@lewbaldwin
@lewbaldwin 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! have to look at these tools from a sound composer perspective, not only as ‘mixing’ strips.
@DanWorrall
@DanWorrall 2 жыл бұрын
But this is, specifically, a mixing strip. I'd rather load a filter plugin, when I need creative effects, and keep the channel strip optimised for mixing. You're allowed to disagree...
@AnteroJokinen
@AnteroJokinen 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanWorrall Yeah you might be right because I would probably do the same tbh. 😅
@Quant-Beat
@Quant-Beat 2 жыл бұрын
The only real benefit with a channel strip plug-in is being able to switch in almost zero time between different complex settings. Otherwise, other than learning by watching a series of processes from a guy like Scheps, it is just superfluous. If one wants to switch fast between different complex settings, one can make parallel buses, and switch between them. Let’s say one moves the source audio up and down between different channels that are routed differently. No need for even mute/solo then.
@peterheinen6110
@peterheinen6110 2 жыл бұрын
I have this in my Reaper DAW. Never used it with my former DAW, cos it jammed everything and led to crashes. This video opens a lot better opportunities, so I"ll look into the omni channel later. Thx!!
@uselessoldman7964
@uselessoldman7964 2 жыл бұрын
The strength and attraction of these plugins is the Waves expansion card for the X32/M32 digital mixers not sure of they do a card for other mixers but I own the x32 and bought the card. So there lies the limitation of 96hz as the mixers run this internally and 48hz external. On another note, I just love that Imperial skin for Reaper you are using so thanks I downloaded and installed it and best of all, its free !!
@Tapepusher
@Tapepusher 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'd be intrigued to hear a response from Waves, you made many sound criticisms.
@ConTraBill
@ConTraBill 9 ай бұрын
I would LOVE to see a "Worrall" folder of presets on my Fabfilter plugins. Would save me a lot of time trying to re-create them.
@shorerocks
@shorerocks 2 жыл бұрын
I like and use the Scheps since it came out. Now, I wonder what Mr. Scheps take away would be, if he ever listened to Dan's observations. THAT would be interesting.
@jkeller51
@jkeller51 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see your take on the Voxengo channel strips (Voxformer, Drumformer)
@68Snaps
@68Snaps 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, very very informative, as usual. Can't wait to see ALL plugin manufacturers make this: right click on a knob and it becomes the "reference knob". Then click on any other knob and up/down controls it, while left/right controls the "reference" knob. And there you'd have it: control any two knobs at once, like analog gear.
@forestcochran4196
@forestcochran4196 2 жыл бұрын
The aliasing issue explains why I don't like this so much on overheads or guitars. I have used the Waves plugin slot at the end for reverbs a couple of times. Putting an H-Verb or CLA Epic at the end of a well-processed snare track can be quite nice. As others have said, adding a second Omnichannel Comp, EQ, or even DS2 can be really nice too.
@MFKitten
@MFKitten 2 жыл бұрын
I always liked Omni Channel, while at the same time not really using it a lot. I tend to have super specific ideas of what I want to do, so I load very specific plugins that do things in just that one way, etc. The saturation in OC is fantastic though, really saved clean vocals in a busy metal mix for me before.
@danymalsound
@danymalsound 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you. I tend to toggle between this and Slate VMR for my vocal busses
@escalator9734
@escalator9734 2 жыл бұрын
I used to not like or understand channel strips in studio/daw environment, but using primarily an ssl strip on most channels pushed my mix to another level, both in sound and efficiency. I'd say it's worth a try on 1 or 2 not so important mixes, or another way of working; unless you've been doing it for so long you don't need to
@MFKitten
@MFKitten 2 жыл бұрын
@@escalator9734 I like the idea of just getting all the stuff done fast so you can move on. And having everything in one place AND sounding good AND having it be modular like that is fantastic.
@escalator9734
@escalator9734 2 жыл бұрын
@@MFKitten exactly; now if I can find an ssl with saturation/console emu, more bands and more/different comps, that would be endgame. I guess that's a bit the slate rack
@djvoid1
@djvoid1 2 жыл бұрын
I've always found the auto-gain in compressors mysteriously over-correcting by a large amount and wondered what the hell. Thank you for confirming I'm not alone
@noname-ng6sj
@noname-ng6sj 2 жыл бұрын
You're deaf.
@SYCHR0N
@SYCHR0N 2 жыл бұрын
The loading delay for the first instance is the Waves infrastrukture checking the license and presumably phoning home. At least, it takes longer if your internet is down. At least with reaper, it's possible to implement the spill ducking inside omni channel only, as you can recreate the ducking via parameter modulation of the gate treshold fed from an audio source aks the snare mic.
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting on my Worrall channel strip. As before, as long as it's not a Waves product or where I have to pay a monthly subscription of some sort.
@BenPotts
@BenPotts 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up these wav videos dan, we love them, would really love to hear your thoughts on the "CLA MixHub" and "NLS" console-emulation type plugins
@mrbackzpace
@mrbackzpace 2 жыл бұрын
I use the Scheps on everything! I love the full spectrum desser.
@benjiusofficial
@benjiusofficial 2 жыл бұрын
When you described the "snare spill into tom mic" dilemma, your solution immediately occurred to me. It's crazy that that isn't something these strips aren't built to handle all by themselves.
@iamanactualcat
@iamanactualcat 2 жыл бұрын
Dan, I agree with your point on there not being any use for dual mono eq as opposed to unlinked stereo eq, but there is absolutely a use for dual mono saturation! it's to do with how the saturation is triggered, the same way it's useful on a compressor!
@DanWorrall
@DanWorrall 2 жыл бұрын
It's useful on a compressor sometimes to link the gain reduction for both channels. How would you link saturation for stereo operation?
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Slate's gate has a decent bleed parameter to control cymbal wash by controlling filters with different release times as well as having transient detection which is very useful to get it to open better.
@Rhekluse
@Rhekluse 2 жыл бұрын
What a lovely & thorough breakdown. As much as Andrew Scheps is an absolute legend, I think I'll hold out for the Womni Channel strip. One strip to rule them all. 😃
@KingGrio
@KingGrio 2 жыл бұрын
The "waves plugin" slot looks more and more like where you load a gain plugin to compensate the saturation and prepare for the limiter.
@lordgraga
@lordgraga 2 жыл бұрын
This is basically free design and function consultancy for Waves. Whatever they paid, it wasn’t enough. BUT it’s fantartic to put this out there, because this can only serve to raise the bar for everyone.
@reverendcarter
@reverendcarter 2 жыл бұрын
expanding the low end on 2 track rap sessions is one of my go to's . omni channel is probably my most used waves plugin behind h delay.
@quentinmorales
@quentinmorales 2 жыл бұрын
H delay is awesome. The modulation is great sounding
@andreifilip
@andreifilip 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan, great video, as always!
@themattprofessor
@themattprofessor 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, Thanks for such a good breakdown of this plugin. I have found it it to be a very good channel strip plugin, never really been taken by others, but I came across a possible issue with the fet compressor and opto, when you select either of those 2 you get a low frequency signal appearing when audio is present, so the spectrum analyser in fabfilter pro q3 shows, its about 25Hz, so not that obvious from a hearing POV, but if you were using lots of instances, of course it will add a lot of energy at this frequency into the mix, of course you could put the hi pass filters in after the compressor. This is maybe to do with modelling of the fet or opto circuits, but other waves plugins and other companies give you the option of removing the noise from these "models" I guess its perhaps to do with rectifier modelling? so If this is an issue along with adding oversampling and gain comp on the saturation etc, would massively improve this plugin. Waves didn't want to know when I broached the subject of oversampling and this noise!
@davewestner
@davewestner 2 жыл бұрын
I am surprised by how much you like the compressor on this unit. It's one of my two biggest gripes with it. The thing adds distortion in two of the three modes, even when there's no gain reduction happening. Maybe some would consider that a feature, but it kinda bugs me. The other thing is that it's a royal PIA to properly set an output level on it. It's been a while since I used it, but I recall constantly battling clipping with it. Might be considered user error, but I don't have that issue with any of the other plugins I use with any regularity. I'm an old school audio guy who also got his start in the live sound biz, so red lights really irk me. That said, it's generally a very good plugin, and I've mixed many a song with this on every channel, albeit with the compressor bypassed. I might have to try loading it up again....it's been a while. Lastly, I really dig the music. Your guitar playing is really interesting.
@DanWorrall
@DanWorrall 2 жыл бұрын
That compressor is on literally every channel and subgroup in that mix. It's the only compressor I used, except on the 2 bus. Sounded fine to me.
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