Dapol's All New SECR D Class | Best Ever Looking Model? | Unboxing & Review

[@JM-oh4yi]

The tender height being slightly lower than the locomotive makes sense to me, it's representing a tender weighed down with coal & water, while the one in the NRM is completely empty.

[@TheWGLOVER]

Good point.

[@jordandack3706]

That does actually make me feel better about it. Thankyou for that. 👌

[@gamingwithlukeJToH]

i do get what you're going at here, although looking at the model, the running plate itself seems to be shorter in size, the real thing had a uniform size through the whole locomotive.

[@18EStudios]

That "Westinghouse pump" is actually the steam powered reverser. It's a common misconception when looking at SECR locos.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh duly noted - thanks for letting me know! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@zerosen1972]

@@SamsTrains I'm the same Sam. Wainwright fitted these to almost every design he made under the SECR and the SR. The most prominent of these being his Q Class 0-6-0s. Here's to hoping they find a way to make a RTR version of that eh?

[@paulcaswell2813]

@@zerosen1972 Careful - Sam'll think you're talking about the Q1 LOL!

[@the_failed_states]

This with a rake of hattons genesis coaches would be stunning.

[@SamsTrains]

Absolutely - the smaller coaches would be ideal due to the limited pulling power! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@wakefieldtrainlad340]

Or even the Bachmann Birdcages

[@bluebellsalmon]

Yes, I simply “had” to buy 6 birdcage brakes to go behind mine. :-)

[@douglasfleetney5031]

Wow! So glad I've bought two! One SECR and the other Southern. Love the D, Dad drove them in the 1950's toward the end of their time. One minor error in your narration (sorry to 'nit-pick'), what you called the Westinghouse pump is actually the Steam Reverser. Can't wait for mine to turn up now. Thanks as ever for your work Sam.

[@stratman9449]

we don't mind nit picking, if if you're right....:-)..which you are of course....

[@SamsTrains]

Wow two?! And my bad - thanks for the info on the not-westinghouse, I stand corrected! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@zerosen1972]

Where was your dad working out of on the Southern Region? Reading? I think that a lot of D Class locos congregated around Reading then. My grandad's best friend was a British expat who worked out of Eastleigh in the 1950s. He operated one of the U Class Moguls on trains until it was withdrawn in 64. Passed away in 2017. I sure do miss the old boy.

[@douglasfleetney5031]

@@zerosen1972 my Dad was at Gilligham/New Brompton Shed (Kent) 73D. They had a couple of D class, five or six C class some H class and three or four LCDR/SECR R/R1 (0-4-4t, very similar to the H class), and several visiting locos that were U, U1, Z, N, N1, N15 (King Arthur class) plus the odd E/E1 as well as D1 class as well, the occasional Bulleid WC, MN and Q1. He left to become a Marine Engineer in 1953 by which time the writing was very much on the wall for the Eastern Section as the juice was being pushed through to the coast. In truth he got to play with all the good stuff that the Southern and SECR had apart from the Lord Nelson, he saw them on visits to Stewarts Lane and Nine Elms but never got to handle or fire one. He came into contact with several of the former LBSCR machines but again it was but a fleeting contact at Bricklayers Arms (The Brick) shed. Hope that helps.

[@HarryC_640]

“A Royal faff!” I love that!😂😂

[@SamsTrains]

haha! xD

[@Firefighternorway]

I must say I loved seeing some wheelslip on it, takes me back to Edward's exploit :)

[@lordvader1672]

Steady boy said Edward driver

[@callumk5]

I preordered one direct from Dapol as soon as I heard about it without a second thought. I’m delighted with it and don’t care if it never turns a wheel; it’s a thing of absolutely exquisite beauty, which as they say, is a joy forever.

[@matthorn9209]

Hi sam, loved the video! I think one reason for such a high price may actually be because of the rails partnership. Because of this, rails sold the locomotive at the rrp, rather then 10 or 20 pounds lower as most retailers do with these sort of models. For example, the hattons genesis coaches and the hornby ones have the same rrp, but the hornby ones are cheaper at retailers by about 5 pounds due to the price reduction.

[@MrShepardDog]

200 GBP for a loco that can barely pull three coaches? Weak plastic hand rails, the cab roof fell off, and the whole thing is made of lightweight plastic? No thanks! A much better deal -- and a loco from this era with stunning good looks -- is Hornby R3544 LNER B12. All METAL die-cast body, pickups on all the gloriously painted wheels, two flywheels -- it's the one that you called "superb", "phenomenal" and "stunning", and gave 8.84 rating score. And -- the price is only 145 GBP!

[@TheMidlandTerrier]

Taking the traction tyres of was the problem. Now People will disagree but a 2p ran a massive layout once single handily for months and didnt fail and that had traction tryes

[@dinowhizz444]

This engine is so gorgeous! I might consider buying one myself :) Completely unrelated question but how did you film the background for the ratings screen? The wagons seem to be going round constantly but I cant see how it was done.

[@mikeking2539]

I was wondering about that, the set on the right don't seem to have a loco,

[@harleypurcell7766]

Pheobe: You can see the strings people 😂

[@dinowhizz444]

@@harleypurcell7766 uhh...no you can't...the background is blurred...

[@SamsTrains]

It is lovely isn't it - I can recommend it! It's just a camera trick... or rather an editing trick... it was quite a headache to make actually!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@ianhartley395]

What a beauty!!!!!! Given the fragility of a few parts, it’s probably an argument for picking it up yourself at a brick and mortar store rather than trusting it to the tender mercies of the post. It has faults but, by God!, I want one!! Thanks for showing us these lovely models that most of us will likely not own haha!

[@mattlander9119]

Not an option when this particular version is only avaialable at one location and the rest at Rails

[@SamsTrains]

That's right Matt - and there are no good model shops within driving distance from me anyway, even if it was available in all stores. The best models with decent packaging can be shipped across the country without any damage - most of them do arrive with no issues! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@ianhartley395]

@@SamsTrains it’s sad to see an era of local shops disappearing for sure. We all contribute too I suppose. We all love the convenience of armchair shopping. I’m certainly guilty of that myself.

[@conistonoldman]

Its very well packaged, as Sam explains in the video. You're more likely to knock something off extracting it from the tight packaging than for it to arrive damaged.

[@gabrielthee2tankengine792]

D class: has the best details Woolwinder: *finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary*

[@craigthelej]

ah yes, a fellow meme lord

[@MetF_]

Me seeing a memer: finally some good fricking food... me seeing its an actual good meme: finally a worthy apponent

[@oppoexpunged]

I Want To Destroy My Demon Enemy

[@charlesshaughnessy1105]

Received mine last Friday: (1) SE&CR 488 and (2) Southern Sunshine 1734. They are beautiful! The detailing is marvellous especially the firebox and crew's view of the boiler. I do agree with you that the rubber tires are not needed. All in all a great but for a museum quality model. Shaun in Maryland.

[@nigelcole1936]

Great review thanks, I received mine yesterday same livery but not the preserved version - same price though - its a lovely model. Two buffers on the tender fell off mine too and I had to glue them on as they only fall off again when you push them back on on there little clips. Like you I also found that the coal doesn't fit very well in the tender and will require some adjustment. Saw the original when it was on the turntable at NRM York it and the model are stunning.

[@liamgough6520]

Oh yeah here we go I love this type. Saw it at the NRM

[@SamsTrains]

Awesome Liam - it sure is a treat! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@liamgough6520]

Also first comment

[@theironlegionp5786]

Man even when I was little I remember sams trains videos and man are they amazing still are to this day thank you Sam for getting me into model railroading

[@the4tierbridge]

Didn't DJM do something similar to the smokebox DCC socket from Dapol first, and you got mad about it? Why is it so great now? Just very curious.

[@SamsTrains]

They did, but it wasn’t intuitive - the smoke box was held on with neo magnets which are expensive, and inside was a mess of wires, with a socket floating around somewhere inside. This solution, with the drawer, is way better!

[@the4tierbridge]

@@SamsTrains Oh, that makes a lot of sense.

[@robmasterman]

A fine loco from Dapol Sam, and a real stunner to look at for which they need to be congratulated...Another great review Sam...Bob.

[@philhumphreys5096]

Just received the same model but with sound! Great model. Tender and loco line up perfectly and no issues with the cab roof or handrails that you experienced. Have kept the traction tyres for now but may change at a later date. The only criticism I have found, like you, is the loco is a tad light. But, all in all, a superb model. Well done Dapol.

[@harryjsedgwick]

13:45 🧐 Well I see my problem about missing Buffer Beam comes out a back of left side Tender. But lucky found it, so I put it back together with Revell Contacta Professional Glue.

[@Vyn_Solina]

Nice review! I am not in a very best shape for 1 week but your videos make me smile.

[@leroyholm9075]

Sam as you correctly mentioned just less than 30 survived nationalisation, no mean feat for a locomotive from 1901 with modifications! So where were they then in 1950? I never got to see any of them as the 1950’s progressed they disappeared. What an amazing career! The list shows where they all ended up. Excellent Review you just get better!

[@SamsTrains]

Yes I suppose that is quite remarkable isn't it? Many thanks for the kind words Leroy, Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@davidcann4329]

Wow, that is a really fine looking model with so much fine detail; I take it that gentle handling is required when picking the locomotive up - I noted the spare parts list in the manual in case replacements are required.

[@SamsTrains]

It sure is David - and very much so, the gentler the better! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@leroyholm9075]

Well done Sam, a very good & informative review and what a classic, British Loco designers really hit their stride with many excellent 4-4-0 designs and this one is no exception. Great to see that at least we now have them in model form. What is it about green locos that looks so good!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Leroy - we really are spoilt with the choice of 4-4-0s now! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@johntunicliffe9019]

Hi Sam, totally agree. Mine has just arrived (with sound), direct from Dapol. Everything perfect with nothing detached. Either I was lucky or you were unlucky! Definitely needs a copper topped chimney though. Another great review Sam. Keep them coming.

[@HarryC_640]

That was the most comprehensive detail review I’ve ever seen! Bit of a polarising loco though. Incredible detail, good performance but the price and quality left a bit to be desired. Got to say, I love the shine on that dome!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much Harry - glad you liked it! Yeah the dome looks very good indeed! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@crystalsheep1434]

I am impressed with all the lining and detailed painting

[@kleedhamhobby]

Very pleased with how thorough and consistent your reviews have become - you definitely deserve recognition for that... and with the number of subscribers you have, I guess you are getting that recognition. I don't really agree with you about traction tires. But then I do much of my modelling in N gauge, where traction tends to be a more major issue... and locos just aren't much use to me if they can't pull a reasonable train up a decent incline. Absolutely agree that good weight is a better option... but I'd rather have traction tires than have a loco that can't pull a few coaches or wagons up a modest incline.

[@rynodynomyte2755]

Beautiful model Sam! These engines are very beautiful, especially in their SECR green livery! Good to have 737 preserved! Let's hope she'll get the chance to be restored! Maybe even get donated to the Bluebell Railway!!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Ryno - they are indeed very beautiful! Restoration would be lovely to see one day! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@rynodynomyte2755]

Your welcome Sam! Indeed it would be!

[@18EStudios]

Its already been confirmed a while back by the NRM that they have no plans to restore 737 to operating condition, hence the reason behind the SECR E class project down at the Bluebell railway.

[@OlivierGabin]

Dapol had clearly put a standard on the tender-locomotive coupling system : now, you've got them and the others. Same for the DCC decoder installation. They can do pretty nice things at Dapol's, but the weight and the discrepancy between then tender and the locomotive footplate height is a silly thing missed in conception. For the finish, the detached parts, the coal load and the chimney top are an insult to anyone who bought it at this Bachmann-like price. Anythying else is top notch, that saves the day. For the performances, the drivetrain is well made, except for the lack of flywheel, inacceptable for GBP 200. And also, the traction tyres installed by default is an unacceptable feature, I'm part of the 88%. But, anyway, replacing the axle with the traction tyres is a real drag, Dapol missed something here. Especially when you see that the pulling power is not really down the drain without traction tyres, even if it's not exceptionnal. 50 grams more weight in the locomotive would not be a luxury... Not a shelf queen, but you won't be able to do more than 2/3 coaches local trains in exploitation without the tyres. Agreed with your rating. As is, GBP 150 is an acceptable RRP. If they correct all the points I have listed, they can ask for GBP 200 in my opinion. Dapol can, and have (43xx Mogul) done excellent things, they ought to be more consistent in their products range. When the brand new Bachmann V2 will be out, I will be highly interested in your review. The price is roughly the same...

[@FormallyknownasE100]

Agree completely. The height is rather unfortunate. I would have liked to have seen a quick shot without the tyres on just to double check.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah it seems so... wonder if the different tenders are interchangeable?! Some say the height discrepancy was intentional... but intentional or not, it's inappropriate for the preserved example represented by my example, so I insist I was right to mention it! xD It is a pity about the price - had it been lower, it would have matched the model far better! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@TKS60163]

Dapol: "No running in is required." Sam: "I'll do it anyways." Dapol: "Wait, that's illegal."

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah... I don't know why they say that though... most models (this one included) do run better after a run in! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@sgkingly8392]

I have a DCC sound one of these and it runs a lot slower while still having good torque and a decent top speed. Re inserting the crankpins is a massive pain but became a lot easier once I put a tiny bit of bluetac onto the included tool which then allows it to hold a crank pin which made it much easier

[@leroyholm9075]

5 at 70E 4 at 73A 4 at 73B 1 at 73C 2 at 73D 6 at 73E 4 at 74A 1 at 74C 3 at 74D 2 at 74E

[@olliesbranchline]

I’ve been waiting for this one! Just to let you know the ytp is finished feel free to check it out if you like I think it’s only 50 or so seconds but loved the video - Ollie

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Ollie! And haha sure - checking it out now!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@roelantverhoeven371]

I love trains like that, sheer classic elegance

[@owendinostudios1200]

WOAH! I was not expecting a locomotive that fancy for HO scale! That model is impressive Sam!

[@rogerharris9327]

I'm glad that I watched your review as I have just opened the Rails version of the loco and exactly the same buffer and cab roof were lose in the packaging!

[@SamsTrains]

Sorry to hear that Roger - I've had many comments and messages saying exactly the same thing... it's a bit of a Dapol trademark unfortunately! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@Uptownloki47]

That green really makes the locomotive pop. May just have to fish some money out of the bank for it.

[@SamsTrains]

It really does - I don't blame you!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@alanmargalan5921]

Got mine Saturday Sam runs great with the Bachman SE&CR coach set behind it, No issue's with parts falling off so far, Got a six function Imperium decoder for it but not been able to set up the fire box lighting but not worried at the moment as i am still running in. Good revue but as you said a little expensive. Regards Alan.

[@richardbaines2436]

I have just received the other SECR version in the silk livery & like yours the cab roof was loose but no problem with loose buffers fortunately! At least you can fit crew easily into the cab! Mine makes a bit of a racket and jumps and stalls occasionally on the points but despite all that i think it's a wonderful model! Yes i agree it's a bonkers price and perhaps i should've returned it to Rails for a replacement? Bit loathe to do it as i had to return the Bachmann Midland 1P if you remember Sam? Had to wait ages before i got it back as it was sold out on pre-order plus the faff of course. Just wish the manufacturer's quality control was better especially at these crazy prices these days.

[@thomasandfriends1946]

Part of the westing house pump, Coupling, Lamp iron kept coming off on mine :/ Also, my D class's safety valve was bent. It would seem they have been put together pretty hastily with iffy quality checks.

[@dasmann3904]

Hello Harry, didn’t expect you to be here.-Das Mann

[@mattlander9119]

It's not a westinghouse pump. It's a wainwright steam reverser

[@thomasandfriends1946]

I think your missing the point...

[@radzieckigraczproductions3]

Yo this one of my favourites! I was hoping you’d upload a video on this!

[@SamsTrains]

Awesome! Yeah couldn't resist in the end! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@radzieckigraczproductions3]

@@SamsTrains :D

[@maltnz]

You are only likely to use the crank pin tool once I guess .. but if you want to use it again do you have any heat shrink that would fit over it to provide a grip? And is the tool deep enough for a miniscule dab of bluetack to hold the pin?

[@SamsTrains]

That's true... but even so, it barely does the job! But sure, that's a very good idea! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@TheWoodlandhoBo]

The wheel slip acts as a clutch too. With the traction tires on it could put too much strain on the loco. Well done Sam. Top work as ever. You should team up with hornby, design the ultimate model and you to oversee the quality control. What a model that would be 😍

[@SamsTrains]

That's absolutely true Tim - a very good point indeed! Appreciate the kind words... but Hornby don't need me to tell them that... they know exactly how to make a top notch mechanism... if they don't do it, it's because they're deliberately saving money! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@TheWandering-te3oc]

Brilliant balanced review ty Sam. As a result I'm now waiting for mine to arrive 😃

[@matthewhdz8192]

I have to say, that steam engine actually kind of looks like the Furness Railway K2 tender engine! (I hope it gets made in any model train toy company.)

[@karenfan010]

aka edward.

[@masterofsouthern5427]

I cannot get enough with this livery I think it is one of the best in the business. Fantastic review mate 🙂

[@SamsTrains]

You might be right - very few that are better! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@joshslater2426]

My vote for best pre-grouping railway livery is a tie between LBSC Umber and GER blue.

[@steamsearcher]

We work in various scales but this month splashed out on one of the rivals? Yes a London CHATHAM & Dover Europa Class. I was the only bidder at just over twice the price of this! Similar livery and details but a 2-4-0. 5 inch gauge... Which will surprise. The drawings are hopeless and only a few have been built Hence the lack of interest. We are now doing 2 of them so mass production. Real metal that gets hot on ours. Lovely model. David & Lily.

[@lucasbastien8324]

That is sucha gorgeous locomotive. Keep up the good work Sam.

[@SamsTrains]

I agree Lucas, cheers mate! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@mattovell]

Great review as always! Would like to add that not only is the underframe detail excellent, but it is actually slightly hollow meaning you can at the right angles see straight through to the track/ballast below which is just incredible (although I wonder if that's partly why it isn't diecast) Cheers Sam!

[@SamsTrains]

Yes you are right about that actually - a 40 minute video and I still didn't manage to cover all of the little features and details... it is a remarkable model, don't get me wrong! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@toboldlygosmodelworks1973]

Overpriced, overly fragile and a stupid mechanism, I rather have the DCC Socket in the tender than taking up room in the smoke box/boiler. That way you can get more weight over the front drivers, something Hornby got right on their D16/3 4-4-0 - however someone at the factory decided not to fit the fly wheeled motor (same as the K1) which the chassis was tooled to make, which lessened the performance slightly. It's a simple transplant too.

[@SamsTrains]

It's a tricky thing though - the DCC socket is in the front of the boiler/smokebox... so any extra weight there would make the loco front-heavy and unbalanced. I love the clever DCC fitting solution... but it did work better in the Mogul where there was enough space for a flywheel too. A flywheel in this model would have improved performance and also the weight! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@josephhosty-locke9223]

45 minutes?! this is going to be interesting

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah - it's a long one... hopefully not too long! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@gamer85p]

Had to go and look up the wartime grey version on rails of Sheffield and I might have to get one for the layout!

[@odenviking]

Oh and happy midsummer to you Sam and your loved ones. 👍👍🇸🇪

[@mikeking2539]

OMG the cab roof has just come off! What the hell are they playing at? £199.xx man that should go back to them and a PERFECT replacement delivered in person by the Boss of Dapol!

[@mattlander9119]

Bit of an over reaction! Could quite easily have been OK when dispatched from the NRM/Dapol/Rails and dislodged during postage as they are hardly light when handling parcels!

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah - not too big a deal, but the general loose fit of multiple parts was a bit concerning - bit more fragile than most, unnecessarily so! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@mikeking2539]

@@mattlander9119 Ok perhaps not the boss, but come on it's a £200 model for Adult collectors, not a children's toy from a pound shop, and they are better quality!

[@MRacer001]

for the record i wont watch this till mine arrives, BUT I REALLY WANT TO!!!!! IM SO EXCITED FOR IT TO ARRIVE, hopefully this coming week fingers crossed

[@SamsTrains]

Amazing Michael - hope you really enjoy yours! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@kymnorley8657]

It is a lovely locomotive. But I had the same issue with bits coming off. The first was a buffer, removed because of a buffer-locking incident. It seems to be an issue with Dapol. My layout is littered with B4 steps that have fallen off.

[@conistonoldman]

I don't model the SECR, though I have been a fan of Edwardian railways most of my life, particularly the LNWR. But I fell in love with the curves of the Wainwright D class from when I first saw photos of it as a lad (before I fell properly in love with curves of a different kind). So I had to have the Locomotion version. Yes, the price is a bit eye-watering for a DC analogue, British outline loco, but it's a one-off and not much different to the forthcoming LNWR Precedent, which is another "must have" for me personally. I haven't had a chance to test run the model yet, but it won't be required to be a workhorse on my layout. Its mainly for show. And what a show! On appearance it's an absolute stunner. The model perfectly (apart from the slight discrepancy in loco/tender solebar heights, though not as obvious on mine at normal viewing distance) captures the flowing lines and personality of the real thing and the level of finish and detail, particularly the lining ad lettering, is superb. Regarding the chimney cap, a photo of Class D No. 470, in 1906, "resplendent in all the glory of Wainwright brightwork" as Rixon Bucknall says in his book "Our Railway History" first published in 1944, clearly shows the chimney cap in a darker shade than the dome and whistle. The only quibbles I had on unboxing were that the spare crankpins and tool were loose in the packaging and almost got immediately lost and the poorly fitting and not particularly realistic coal load was loose. Everything else is in place and tight on mine. So, from my experience, there's very little to take issue with on quality. I expect the weight/traction tyre issue is part of a complex design trade-off between the need to squeeze gizmos into the small space and cost. Given the amount of hand-finishing that must have been required at the factory to achieve the quality and detail and the relatively small runs of the large number of variants, I don't feel the £199 price is very excessive, although it is high. I was tempted by the DCC sound version but I simply can't justify the additional cost of that. I mainly model Swiss HO and HOm and 200 quid would rarely buy a Swiss electric loco which is basically a plastic box on powered bogies with much less complexity.

[@samuraifool912]

Great Review Sam. Dapol almost getting it right..! Unfortunately not One for me. As I would Definitely not be Able to change from Rubber to Metal wheels. Eyesight and Wobbles of a 65yr Old, would make that a 'Mission too Far.!' I was having visions of pins 'Pinging off into Oblivion..!' For the £'s or in my case Aussie $$ that would be in the $400/450 range. And then you have to Risk Tinkering with it..! 'May as well go and flush $400 down the Dunny..!' But as always great Review. So much Detail. Thx for the info. Because that is a Beautiful model, to look at. But that's not the Aim..!! Cheers kim Downunder. 😎

[@johnd8892]

My local Australian hobby shop performs work like this at a very low cost. Often free for a loyal customer buying something from them. Unfortunately Rails of Sheffield have a tier system even more restrictive than Hornby, so do not allow a full service high standard local hobby shop in Australia or any where else to sell these.

[@JDsHouseofHobbies]

I love my Dapol Mogul in early BR lined green That being said, this loco is stunning.

[@peterrosier7079]

As always another great review Sam. I have got one on order in SE&CR colours but No. 488 instead. What a beautiful locomotive I am really looking forward to receiving it. I am not a fan of traction tyres but I will keep them on purely because of the lack of pulling power without them.

[@SamsTrains]

Sounds fantastic Peter - really hope you enjoy it! Sure, if you want your loco to haul well, then the tyres are a must unfortunately! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@iceeblueburst03]

Nice old fashioned 4-4-0 locomotive! 👍

[@SamsTrains]

Very much so mate! :D

[@davidmolin8944]

That price point speaks a lot I mean I really wanted to have a lot of cool features and good quality but I don't think it's really hit the mark great review by the way

[@mikeking2539]

Not with bits dropping off before he got it out of the box, and then the cab roof coming off and loose handrails, for £200 give or take, I would rather have a O gauge 08.

[@MrShepardDog]

A much better deal is Hornby R3544 LNER B12. All METAL die-cast body, pickups on all the gloriously painted wheels, two flywheels -- it's the one Sam called "superb", "phenomenal" and "stunning", and gave 8.84 rating score. And -- the price is only L 145!

[@SamsTrains]

That's right - had it been all metal, 100% perfect, and packed with features, then it may just about have been worth it... but this just wasn't. Mr ShepardDog's right... Hornby's B12 is a real benchmark engine, and it's far cheaper... yet far larger, and almost entirely metal! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@Jason_The_Stooge]

I'd like to see you do a weight experiment with light locos!

[@SamsTrains]

Maybe that'll be fun to try Jason - nice idea! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@willknipe9491]

@@SamsTrains I have definitely spotted in lbsc Atlantic.

[@robbykoopman5559]

Detailing can be so small but then they make the models overall quality improve so much

[@SamsTrains]

Yep - there sure is an improvement in quality, I'll give them that! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@SniartekilI]

Beautiful loco! Is there space to put weights in the loco body?

[@davidstrains4910]

A very nice looking locomotive especially in that SECR green colour rails and dapol definitely did a great job with the model.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot David - they sure did! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@mewsdo]

I have the D class and am wondering how to add weight to the rear of the locomotive. Lead crew members in the cab? Lead weights underneath maybe...? Has anyone tried to add weight? Great vid as usual. Many thanks!

[@edwardvincentbriones5062]

@Sam’sTrains Hornby had released a NRM exclusive SR Q1 loco a long time ago. It’s a shame that you didnt have it in your collection.

[@Benji_transport_vids]

oh my gosh, this loco is absolutely stunning!

[@SamsTrains]

It sure is Benji, I agree! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@natterjack478]

Were about to see a LOT of new edward models

[@zerosen1972]

Truely a gorgeous loco Sam. You did an amazing job reviewing it. I was looking of getting one myself but the SECR Wainwright Green and BR Early Versions ran out on Pre Order. £200 from Rails of Sheffield was just a bit too much for my wallet at the time. I'm hoping they will release another wave of these. I already missed out on the SECR P Class so I hope I can grab this up next time.

[@johnarkell4493]

A couple of points; The 'Westinghouse Pump' on the offside is not a Westinghouse Pump but is the Stirling steam reverser. The prototype had more lining on it than has been depicted but I can understand why it has been left off. Secondly I personally don't like the colour used on the various handrails and smoke box door fittings, it makes them look chromium plated not burnished steel

[@sherpafan033]

The detail is fantastic

[@daveclaridge8316]

If a loco is "on the light side, there are ways to make it heavier. Strips (taken from a piece of roofing lead) can ne fitted under the running plate, or hidden anywhere it can help, and not be seen. Brilliant production.👍.

[@berkshireerielocomotive3322]

As a person that used to collect diecast cars and trucks, I agree that the amount of diecast should reflect in the price. It's understandable how an excessive amount of weight can hinder the performance of certain models. But it servers no excuse for them to cut broad corners. They should include metal crew figures and cab accessories to act as additional ballast.

[@moony4425]

Okk, not too related to the video (the loco looks amazing) but... Could you try to fix the bachmann ttte motors whose motors had burnouts? Maybe replacing the old motor with a new one... Sam, you're amazing ;)

[@SamsTrains]

Sure! Now that I have a 3D printer it may be possible to fashion new motor mountings... so that may mean I can fit alternative motors! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@moony4425]

@@SamsTrains thanksssss

[@tomslegotrains7285]

Hey Sam! Absolutely beatiful loco! You did a Great job in the video too! I was thinking, now that you have a SECR express engine, you could do a SECR running session!

[@SamsTrains]

Very much so! Maybe I do have enough for a session now?! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@crsrdash-840b5]

Great video. I notice it has inside cylinders. Love the look of this model.

[@johnd8892]

I would like to see this on the rolling road with the current draw while running in. Fluctuations or a drift in current upwards or too high a current draw being an indicator of motor problems. I would like this to be a standard test for all your reviews so that your audience will learn a bit more about motors and mechanisms.

[@J4M1FY]

Gonna be completely honest. Considering there isn't any Furness Railway K2 locomotives on the market at the moment, this would be a really good model for a custom Edward from TTTE!

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah quite a few people have said that, though it's a lot to spend for an Edward! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@bentullett6068]

It's a great looking locomotive. I just hope that the Manor class locomotives are going to be better on weight and pulling power.

[@SamsTrains]

It sure is Ben - the Manor should be much better, as there's more space to play with! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@romycarldelacruz1980]

I like how the side rods move so satisfying

[@SamsTrains]

Me too - it's a glorious look! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@blackberry5447]

The B12 in the background was the odd one out, also do you think this would be a good starting loco for model railroading?

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh almost - though that wasn't a B12 ;) I wouldn't recommend this as a beginner's model - you want something a bit cheaper and less fragile if you're a beginner! I'd recommend the Dapol Mogul... that's even better! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@blackberry5447]

@@SamsTrains Thanks for the advice, also was a it a D16 then?

[@WritersCrusaders]

Yay, New Loco! That's looks bloody amazing there mate!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks my friend - it really does! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@odenviking]

Hi Sam i like the Dapol coupel betwwn loco and tender. And the ease to convert to dcc. Maerklin sadly do not have the ease to convert to dcc. When convert to dcc you have to on some models hard wire the dcc. I like Dapol ease to service the model. Keep up the good work.

[@CrystalLakeRailway]

I just love that livery and shiny dome!

[@SamsTrains]

Me too! It sure is something isn't it? :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@a.r.productions]

Undeniably Gorgeous, if it weren't for the price then this could have been dapols best model. Great review as always Sam 👍

[@SamsTrains]

Very much so - I agree - it's pretty close isn't it?: D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@chasesrailwaylinesrr6447]

Hi Sam I got a Bachmann trolley for 5$ and it Didn't work at 1st then I left the power on then After a little while it started moving really well

[@SamsTrains]

Wow... that's really weird.. guess that paid off for you! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@joelightrailway2362]

Excellent review of the Dapol SE&CR D Class Sam 👍👍 But the one thing that I was shocked by was the buffer lose from tender and I’ve just screamed , no seriously, I’ve screamed when the buffer was lose from the model as well the cab roof. I was worried that you will have another bad quality model from Dapol, but unfortunately I don’t like the traction tires on the driving wheels and I personally agree with everyone that it better without them. I also don’t like the fact this model was too light and having more die-cast metal on the running plate will help the model a lot. However one more down point of the model was it price of £200 for a 4-4-0 model as that price would be better on 4-6-2s rather than a small 4-4-0 locomotive.

[@davepippinfbtventertainmen2624]

Well done dapol Beautiful locomotive and colourful

[@ginakhan1297]

What a beautiful locomotive! Take good care of this one

[@SamsTrains]

I will take good care of it! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@laszlovinke1918]

The British model company’s need to take a look at marklin what they do is just insane the extreme level that a marklin model has

[@SamsTrains]

They certainly do! Now that the prices are comparable, the products should be too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@Ever_2008_ARG]

Kind of a coincidendce that this video got recommended to me while i was making a 3d model of this loco :)

[@brianartillery]

I like the look of the grey version you show.

[@SamsTrains]

I do too - it looks excellent doesn't it? :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@RichardKuivila1947]

WOW ! . . .SO Many steam loco videos to see!

[@elenahannah8847]

A very nice loco in a few days an old princess royal is arriving with dcc hopefully it will impress

[@RobA500]

Stunning looking locomotive, not sure about the price though.

[@SamsTrains]

Me too Rob - think they've over-flattered their model slightly with that price! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@ScottishNSRailFan]

Hi Sam. Enjoyed your review. Now in receipt of the sound version from Rails. Beautiful little model. Will not be pulling anything, so I am fine with the traction tyres. When I saw the colour of the box, I thought immediately of Hatton’s 66s. What a disaster they were, both what I read and my own personal experience. Bought nine, one arrived without sound and could not be replaced, all sold out. So I received a full refund. Of the remaining eight, six gave me problems. Varying, from wheel wobble, sound failure and complete decoder failure. I hope it was not Dapol that received the commission from Hattons to build the 66s, as I have four 59s on order with Dapol.

[@KRSBU]

A tender buffer also fell off my Rails/Dapol D Class. Runs ok on my test track.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Keith - hearing many reports about that - not sure why they're not glued in properly! Thanks for watching, Sam :)