Daria Atamanov 4 exercises Difficulty - AA Final WCh Valencia 2023

📌Results:
⭕️ HOOP: official ➡️ 17.6 (DB 11 ; DA 6.6) / my score ➡️ 16.5 (DB 10.9 ; DA 5.6)
🏐 BALL: official ➡️ 16.7 (DB 9.5 ; DA 7.2) / my score ➡️ 16.7 (DB 10.1 ; DA 6.6)
🥢 CLUBS: official ➡️ 16.6 (DB 10.9 ; DA 5.7) / my score ➡️ 16.6 (DB 10.7 ; DA 5.9)
🎗️ RIBBON: official ➡️ 14.2 (DB 8.5 ; DA 5.7) / my score ➡️ 13.5 (DB 8.2 ; DA 5.3)
📌Technical explanations:
⭕️ 🔹00:33 two large body segments are not covered during this Large roll DA;
🔹00:56 not 180 degrees in the required DB shape (see trunk);
🔹1:05 we know that a DA can be performed on a repeated DB shape (Passé was already performed as the third shape of Fouetté Balance) only if this DA is different than the one performed on the previous identical DB shape (if any DA was performed there), Passé in this case is a repetition and won’t be considered a valid DB;
🔹1:16 Cabriole backwards is not performed according to definition (feet don’t touch), but this was probably not noticed at competition and the DA was given despite that;
🔹1:21 not 180 degrees in the required DB shape (see trunk);
🏐 🔸1:51 the rotation criterion is not 360 degrees (see what direction the body faces at the beginning of the DA and what at the end of the Large roll);
🔸 2:09 this DB shape is barely recognizable (see trunk and shoulders position), halfway between a Penché and a Tilt, but we can give a Side split with trunk at horizontal with support;
🔸2:17 I was generous giving this KB, to me it’s not really 180 degrees in shape;
🔸3:14 music stops before the Large roll is completed (the audience makes it difficult to hear when the music actually stops though), plus it looks like an identical repetition, so invalid DA;
🥢 🔹3:24 I gave the benefit of the doubt that Cabriole was performed correctly here, we cannot tell given the camera zoom;
🔹3:29 Outside the visual field is not performed (the hand releasing is at the side of the body), but she probably meant to perform a DA on this Balance; I left this possible DA out of the count of the maximum 20 DA allowed and considered this a common small throw and catch to validate the DB;
🔹3:38 not 180 degrees in the required DB shape;
🔹4:15 again, the trunk position is very incorrect (large deviation for trunk being at 45 degrees), but I turned a blind eye on this;
🔹4:18 I was generous giving this KB (see leg), to me it’s not really 180 degrees in shape;
🔹in general, her handlings Small throw and catch of two unlocked Clubs are quite borderline sometimes, either of the Clubs doesn’t really have a full 360 degrees rotation, but I turned a blind eye on this and gave all DA;
🎗️🔸5:15 is there an actual full rotation of the stick in the air for a valid Echappé?
🔸5:17 Base and criteria uncoordinated: when the stick goes behind the leg during the rotation there are no Snakes anymore!
🔸5:21 Spirals are not performed during the DB shape, but before: no DA;
🔸5:42 when she is not supporting herself on the hand anymore and when she starts relevé there is no handling, so I gave the Penché on flat foot with Spirals DA as the only moment of a valid DB + a valid handling: this is not a CBD anymore, it’s 2 isolated DB;
🔸5:55 not 180 degrees in the required DB shape (see trunk + leg);
🔸6:13 not 180 degrees in the required DB shape;
🔸6:17 The hips and trunk positions are quite incorrect, halfway between a Front split and a Side Split with trunk at horizontal, but we can give the Side split shape as valid.
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[@monicaburrull8515]

Simplemente maravillosa. Que bonita, que limpia, que seguridad tiene y el manejo de los aparatos es increible!!!❤Bravo

[@Ldvsuzinemsjiznd]

Well done! I think with hoop and ribbon it was mainly the pivots that you didn’t count (the judges mostly count pivots even if it’s not exactly 180 degrees) also her difficulty with ribbon will be probably way higher if you would analyse her qualifications ribbon. She executed it much better (:

[@saem_rg]

i was not that strict with 180 degrees pivots (see the Kb I gave for Ball and Clubs), but the EKB (the one in Clubs was fairly performed, even if i didn't give it) and the Kb performed in Hoop and Ribbon just have a 90 degrees rotation of the trunk, while both free leg and trunk need to be held throughout a full turn (180). Those were visible even without pausing, both live and in video 🤔

[@Ldvsuzinemsjiznd]

@@saem_rgI know but judge seems to just count it🤷

[@dannyjq]

this is not really true, generally the DB scores are accurate while the DA scores are much more subjective. the official hoop DB score is only 0.1 difference from samuel's. and daria notoriously does under 180° pivots that don't get credited.

[@Ldvsuzinemsjiznd]

@@dannyjq oh I didn’t notice that. So what was the differences? Maybe some masteries? Or some points in the risks (during rotation and things like that)

[@dannyjq]

​​​@@Ldvsuzinemsjizndactually i just added up all of samuel's DB and risk scores for the hoop routine and i got 5.9 DB+ 5.2 risk which is 11.1, not 10.9 like in the description! i think the reason why it's 0.1 higher than the official 11 is maybe the last rotation was after 90 seconds? it looks like the routine starts at 0:08 and she contacts the hoop at 1:38, but completes the rotation at 1:39. but yes the difference in DA score is definitely that upon review, some DAs (masteries) should not count but the judges are lenient

[@dannyjq]

for ribbon, i wonder how they got to 8.5. i'm thinking maybe they counted 5:42 as penché on relevée, thus making it a combination DB. so then she has 7 credited DB instead of 8. and then maybe they credited the passé balance at 5:53 and the wave at 6:15. so all that gives an extra 0.3. great video! i was curious how daria's difficulty compares after her injury

[@isaacmendoza1084]

Can you do it with Onoprienko’s routine please…

[@zuzanaponizilova361]

Even if she managed to do the last roll in ball before music stopped isn't the roll the same as the first one at the beginning? Thank you 😊

[@saem_rg]

yes, it is! 😁

[@eimardgomes1128]

how can judges analyse all this moves in fast pace?? WOW. And the simbols so confusing haha

[@saem_rg]

they have been doing this for ages, they are pros 😊 i can tell you on top of my 6 years experience that if you train constantly you will be able to understand and score successfully!

[@kristina__kul]

5:18 разве не 0,3?)

[@saem_rg]

в описании объясняется, почему я не считал ДА 🤗

[@isaacmendoza1084]

Really nice video. About ribbon I think at the end they counted all body elements but I was suppousting that she didn’t complete the rotations. 🫶🏽