Dark and Darker Longsword Masterclass | Updated Parrying Guide to PvE in the Crypts!

[@nalu9570]

Skeleton Footman 0:33 Skeleton Guardsman 1:38 Skeleton Spearman 3:09 Skeleton Axeman 3:30 Skeleton Zweihander 5:20 Mummy 6:44 Zombie 7:46 Skeleton Archer 8:37 Skeleton Crossbowman 9:12 Wraith 9:36 Skeleton Champion 10:56 that's about it.

[@oggieson]

@@nalu9570 Ty Nalu

[@JonYugen]

I have a feeling a lot of F2P have no idea what the squire is and that he can provide a longsword for free. I would've definitley made note of that at the intro of the video, or even just make a comment down here about it and pin it. Overall, great video Oggie! I pray us longsword bros get more love at some point with later updates on the hitbox : |

[@oggieson]

That woulda been a good idea for sure. I might make a defacto beginner longsword guide sometime soon

[@jasado7908]

@@oggieson Do it, please.

[@Kurushimi]

@@oggieson 🙏🙏🙏

[@recklessrenegade9150]

Thanks for the re-work on the parry guide! You've helped me learn a lot about the mechanics and how get consistent parries. I think you're a bit static when it comes to some of the PvE parries. Not on all the mobs but the skeleton champion and footman can be parried easier when side stepping and trying to a parry at a more 45 degree angle. I can pretty consistently catch the champs thrust when side stepping to my left and poking the tip of the sword along the path he's going to stab. I saw you pull it off towards the end of the fight and when practiced its pretty consistent. Love the content man! You do awesome work! You're one of the people inspiring me to start making content of my own. Have fun in the dungeons brother!

[@oggieson]

This is just a base line for most new players for sure. I stay static through a lot of the mobs currently because there seems to be hit box issues whenever you're moving. Tho, it's more prominent with ice mobs I've noticed. Showed it on stream last night. But if it works for you full send however you're parrying buddy!

[@Jawnve]

tbh warlock is really good for learning how to use longsword for pve. infinite heals mean infinite practice

[@JonYugen]

Yes! Exactly, shadow touch is nice, especially if you end up accidentally getting hit through failed ripostes. Other than that, it does feel MUCH slower because of the lack of the blocking perks on warlock.

[@oggieson]

Very true!

[@joelmaster329]

Yes but no shield mastery :(

[@CowboobsYT]

I run Melee only Longsword warlock. Ghost and Shadow blade skill things. Has great burst and for pvp, back line pressure. You can ghost through front line and cause chaos.

[@uNoCardiologist3110]

Great work, Oggieson! I would recommend putting timestamps on these monsters so people can easily select the ones they're having problems with. The biggest problem for me right now with parrying is the off sync and lag. I can see attacks going through my sword and it's frustrating. Thanks again for the content!

[@oggieson]

Dammit I always forget lol

[@professorsarge2770]

You inspired me to master the longsword. Thank you for all the helpful videos.

[@brooksybaby03]

This has enlightened me that I am incapable of mastering the longsword but it looks too fun not to try. :)

[@fadedchicken]

This is so freaking good I’ve been pulling my hair out using the Longsword because I didn’t know that the hit boxes on the pve weapons were so scuffed. Always getting hit when I see their swing hit the fricking sword

[@oggieson]

Yeah this is the worst it's ever been actually. Not sure what Ironmace did, but they improved the dsync between players and scuffed the interaction between PvE. Idk how any of it works but I won't lie, I like having more reliable PvP encounters than PvE lol

[@meyta6400]

You are definitely the commander of the knights with the long sword ⚔

[@Volpasaur]

man I am enjoying your videos. thank you. I appreciate the new player kindness and instruction.

[@TheRazeryan]

Thank so much for posting this, I send this to the new fighters who love longsword and want to get better

[@oggieson]

Hell yeah buddy!

[@BaneofMills247]

I would like to see a parry for nightmares please. You're the only Dark and Darker youtuber I like.

[@oggieson]

Gotcha. Gonna be a couple days tho lol

[@rogirek3362]

I find it easier to remember where the tip of the longsword should be, rather than where the crosshair should be. Especially when you want to be turned left, because you can precisely say "aim the tip of the sword at the skeleton's neck" instead of "look about one skeleton width to the left and one skull over his head".

[@WesiteTheTestie]

Thank you for all the time you put into this, loving learning from you and practicing. Makes it fun to then teach my friends that just started playing

[@oggieson]

Hopefully it’s helpful buddy

[@hiraplol]

I love how you edit the parry sweetspots. Hoping you could do one of these for the cave troll and ogre.

[@ItsBunnyHD]

Thanks for all the work you do making these videos! Much love

[@BlightBingo]

On the skeleton guardsman tand footman for the overhead parry, I have found the most reliable way to parry is to move slightly to the left and aim a little to the right and up, and you should be consistent

[@Tom2182]

With the Skeleton axeman , I found that u can parry the horizontal swing by crouching down and look right a bit . Your videos really helped me a lot during my learning phase for parrying with the longsword thx

[@oggieson]

That method definitely works as well. Catches up by the hilt. Gotta make sure you turn enough or it accidentally headshots you sometimes tho lol

[@despicabletaylor]

What I learned from this vid even with 700 hours: mummies have increased PDR when rising from the ground and Skeleton Spearman only do the overhead when you're closed in on them

[@kenzej8710]

I found that with the guardsman, if you put your tip of the blade when in a defensive stance into his mouth it will block the attack. This is how ive been doing it xD

[@oggieson]

I’ll try this!

[@DasUngesehene]

This helped so much thank you

[@oggieson]

Glad it helped buddy

[@thomassmith-o4v]

thanks so much man ive been wanting to play longsword and just couldnt get it!

[@oggieson]

Hopefully it helps

[@hoodwinky1]

Thanks for your efforts! Have you made people at Ironmace aware of the work you do here? Had me thinking it might save them some QA time if any they hadn't experimented with internally.

[@oggieson]

Hmm I don’t think anyone at Ironmace watches these lol. They only have a couple English speakers on the team as it is and one of them is the ceo and he definitely doesn’t watch xD. I think their team is still just a bit too small to catch everything. I also think some of this was rushed out with less polish than usual because of the steam/epic release they pushed for

[@hoodwinky1]

@@oggieson Perhaps they're too busy with the circumstances -- but they have stated in the last few patches they have an interest in adding skill expression to melee combat so I imagine this is solidly relevant to what they want to accomplish in that regard. If they don't notice it, give 'em a poke. Re: their understanding, I'd say you don't need much english to understand your video :). Worth a shot if it helps the game I'd say. SDF I think is just not as comfortable speaking, I think his understanding is pretty good. Thanks again for getting a lot of my friends into longsword, looking forward to more of the 2000s-era frag videos.

[@petrkochan9818]

Please, how do you parry and hit at the same time like this 3:04 ?

[@oggieson]

@@petrkochan9818 you right click after a parry rather than left clicking

[@petrkochan9818]

@@oggieson thanks man, you are the goat

[@j.d.4697]

The axe hitboxes seem fine to me cause it looks like you have to hit the axe head and not the shaft, which makes sense cause the blade extends further towards your body, plus axes are heavy and there is a certain amount of give to such a parry, at least IRL.

[@oggieson]

I wouldn’t mind this if it was consistent for shields too but as it is the shields also have it hit through cuz of it lol

[@AnxiousLooter]

i would love a guide on how to build longsword fighter explaining perks and skills, and gear set up. future vid maybe? anyway love the content man. have a good weekend.

[@oggieson]

I am due for one of these now that they nerfed sprint so hard it's tough to properly build a fighter. I'll have to run some geared HR/Normals stuff and get a better idea of what's working right now. I can at least do that for solos, don't have a trios team anymore but I can theory craft that I suppose

[@AnxiousLooter]

That would be amazing thank you man

[@poplocker1234]

Thanks for the video Kevin Hart!

[@brooksybaby03]

Firstly im bad at this. That said, I instinctively want to crouch while blocking to make my hit box smaller, ALWAYS, for both PvE and PvP. I do realize this puts my head in additional danger. Should i break this habit? Also the damage buff post parry. Is this on a timer? Is it used on the first swing or first hit during this timer? Can you proc it more than once?

[@oggieson]

@@brooksybaby03 there are some reliable PvE parry positions from crouching. I often crouch parry in PvP as well tho it’s never to make the hitbox smaller but to catch enemies attacking low or to change the angle of our combat to allow for the longsword blade angle to benefit my parry attempt with the different spacing crouching provides. Nothing wrong with crouch parrying tho you don’t need it in every fight/against every attack

[@brooksybaby03]

@@oggieson appreciate it, I will continue to learn when and where this method is amicable.

[@CrippledPepe]

You can dodge wraith's charge attack by crouching and looking straight up or down iirc

[@oggieson]

Hmm. Haven’t had this work since they added the dash attacking lower

[@oggolbat7932]

Is the parry worth it for PvE at all, though? Aside from practicing for PvP, it's just easier to just bait and dodge, right? What do you think?

[@oggieson]

Yes it speeds up clears immensely. PvE clears are longsword best attribute. Which is kinda sad when you consider how easy pve is really lol. Riposte attacks carry a 1.875 modifier with no sour spot damage on the attacks. The base attack chain is 1.0 1.05 and 1.10 modifiers and have up to a 40% penalty on sour spot damage

[@ViperGTS_R]

I assume longsword doesn't have hitbox near the hilt of the blade. I might think that longsword has same block hitbox size about quarterstaff, so why longsword has no block hitbox near tip of the blade and near the hilt. I assume this out since playtest 4. And I always tried to catch where the centre aim icon placed.

[@oggieson]

Hmm. Longsword has a hitbox from the hilt to the the tip. I’ve caught parries from players in every spot on the weapon just because of how long I’ve played xD

[@kersower1179]

How to parry an attack? I manage to block attacks, but I don't understand how to counterattack after the block

[@oggieson]

Sorry buddy all you need to do after a block is click your block button again to do the riposte attacks

[@МилиахГуниб]

OGI OGI OGI!!! keep up! i start play LS on yours vid. And now i cant stop. Playing another weapon is boring and feels no dmg after ripost... Cheers mate!

[@oggieson]

I feel ya buddy! Most other weapons are big boring

[@ANiceGuy]

Best case scenario maybe you can easily parry if you somehow learn how to make your parry align parallel to the every slash by manipulating your POV

[@ThomasVpanda]

which perks are best to use with a longsword fighter?

[@oggieson]

I’ve been running shield mastery, sword mastery, counter attack, and weapon mastery recently. I will drop counter attack for swift occasionally if I have more than 3 plate pieces on

[@qdLuke]

you almost 3v1d me and my friends last night and my friend went to look up a parry guide after fighting you, then realized the guide was made by the same guy who killed us

[@oggieson]

Lol good fight then boys!

[@sneakyJDG13]

Whenever I hold block and left click I just start the thrust animation. When I parry an attack my left click doesn't work at all anymore. Is anyone else experiencing this? I've tried making new characters, uninstalling, and changing my pc mouse. It's driving me crazy

[@oggieson]

Oh dude. I’m sorry you dealt with all that man lol. Riposte is right click. You parry an attack and right click again. It’s triggered as a defensive action and is tied to the block button

[@DillonisEpic]

recommended percs ?

[@oggieson]

In normals I’ve been running shield mastery, sword mastery, counter attack, and weapon mastery. This is what I’d likely run with gear as well, possibly swapping out counter attack with defensive expert or barricade depending on my kit for duos. Trios I haven’t played this wipe but likely leaning toward something like the same build for duos. Possibly dropping both counter attack and sword mastery for defense expert and barricade for more survivability in melee as long as I get action speed above 10% through my kit

[@vl8680]

yo thanks a lot for this

[@oggieson]

Hopefully it’s helpful man

[@freshbreeze20]

Is it possible to parry goblins?

[@oggieson]

Yes. I have an older video showing parrying goblins still as well. No attacks have changed on them. I do need to update the parrying for centipede tho

[@NinjaTylerBlevins]

y no timestamps?

[@oggieson]

I'm sorry I forgot when I made the video and when you go back and edit the description it tanks the impressions cuz youtube is a punk. I'll try and add them to a pinned comment but will likely not have time. Sorry!

[@afoekon]

Algorithm help out this video!

[@sebastiancuk7004]

You can parry anything, but it only works 100% of the time, 50% of the time.

[@oggieson]

Math checks out

[@Chastokol_]

And someome on reddit said the game hitboxes are very consistent and our indignation from longsword bros are just coping about being bad at the game.

[@oggieson]

Lol yeah there's a few people I catch on reddit talking nonsense about things I've actively proven on stream/videos. People don't like to be wrong even when there's proof.

[@oggieson]

Find the nightmare variant parries here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qInRZYBvoqt7b9Esi=eFmAwuqpUeV6qbA7 Thanks for the support and hope the videos help!

[@gordon7936]

Longsword parrying looks fun, but unreliable as hell. Maybe I'll try it in the future.

[@Kurosakiplus0]

unico fan hispano aqui usando traductor

[@oggieson]

Appreciate you translator using fan bro!

[@Kurosakiplus0]

@@oggieson seguiré esperando más guías 😁

[@davidtsang7086]

Nice vid

[@ArtorasKnight]

Master!?

[@thrustfrombehind9869]

even after all this time the arrows still stay stuck into your sword. Also hitboxes are actually such a joke aswell with Longsword pve blocking even after all this time Inertia needs to be a thing in this game aswell. TBH even after the last time I played in a closed alpha test its still the same.

[@oggieson]

It is surprising to see the hit boxes still a mess after this long

[@MorNamoAnnatrar]

For me, a beginner, this looks so complicated and hard to execute... The is really skill demanding

[@oggieson]

It may look like it, but once you practice some it becomes very simple to get consistent. Some skill involved but it's not too intensive honestly! So get out and practice!

[@MorNamoAnnatrar]

@@oggieson Ay-ay, Captain!

[@hudsonwheat6388]

The dude that leaves a negative Steam review still pumping out content. Sad.

[@oggieson]

Yeah it’s not negative bub. Y’all havin a hard time with that still

[@hudsonwheat6388]

@@oggieson Unless you went in and changed it to positive, the one I read was negative. I just find it weird to leave a negative review on a game you've played for 100's or 1000's of hours and still are pumping out content for. Just my opinion, you can have yours.

[@oggieson]

@@hudsonwheat6388 I did change it to positive since some people spamming me made good points about the F2P part of the game being focused on the normals gameplay loop which I enjoy still. I think it’s absolutely ok for people to put negative reviews about games they put hours into. I don’t want ironmace having a buncha yes men telling them the game is great and has no issues when the balance in the game is trash and their ability to balance the game has been trash the entire time. I have ironmace their compliments in the review too about being great at making content and being the best dev team to communicate with the community out there. I still make content since I want to support ironmace as a dev team cuz I think they’re dope for what they gave us in the game but being critical of their balance since it ruins a lot of the fun is where I’m at now with my hours in the game. My KZbin and twitch make me zero and take up a lotta time, I’m just giving back to the community at this point is the only reason I continue the content Thanks for the comment tho man. Not trying to spam ya with an essay so my bad on the text wall

[@Jack_the_Rizzler69]

Devs are so incompetent in pretty much all areas of the game. They should pray no half decent competitor comes along.