Dark Angels Legion Guide - Horus Heresy 2.0

So today me and Heresy Junkie Ben do a run down of the Dark Angels legion for Heresy 2.0.
Here's a link to Ben's Channel
/ @theheresyjunkie768
Hopefully going forwards these can be done after each game I play against an opponent with a different legion. Thatll mean Ive got a preator of the legion there, whos spent (in this case) years playing the legion not just a more generic overview by a militia and Iron Warriors player.... (me)
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00:00 Intro
01:15 Legion Traits
13:00 Advanced Reaction
19:14 Rites of War
37:33 The Armoury
42:16 Legion Consul
43:58 Knights Cenobium
49:37 Interemptors
51:19 Deathwing Companions
57:23 Corswain
01:00:39 Madrak Sederas
01:05:37 The Lion

[@samobojca44]

Ben gives such good vibes. I like to come back to videos with him on some random days because there are so gorgeous. The way how he explain the rule with the references to lore is awesome.

[@BearfootMiniatures]

Totally agree mate and great guy to meet aswell: I’ll shoot a message now you’ve reminded me to see if he’s up for doing any more!

[@inferno9103]

Interemptors are absolutkey amazing. Used them three times in a row. In rhino they did HELL. INCINERATOR is must have. Also note that radgrenades trigger while you are assault and overwatch instant death all toughtness 4

[@IVIaskerade]

A big thing you missed out on with the unique consul is that as a "Paladin of the Heck-a-ton-east-ick-a" he also gets to choose one of the special rules like the Inner Circle Knights, so he can be rerolling vs WS5+ (aka anyone he'll challenge), or carving through entire squads. Also, while reaper of hosts is arguably better, don't discount slayers of beasts since reroll ALL to wound vs T6+ gives you extra chances of that 5+ to absolutely mulch dreadnoughts, and slayers of kings lets them reroll hits against other elite terminators. The other thing it's important to know is that while apothecaries and techmarines have to be the same hexagrammaton, independent characters *do not* and if one with a different rule joins a squad, both they and the squad choose which rule to use each turn. So you can have a Dreadwing unit getting lower-strength incoming fire, then switch to deathwing on the turn you're fighting in assault.

[@BearfootMiniatures]

Jesus that’s a mouth ful then haha! That wing switcharoo fits will with how DA intergrate wings I think and is a good shout from you there in the game tactics!

[@alexyoblick]

I was going to say that makes a good combo for Madrak Sederas with the Cenobium Knights. Sederas is Dreadwing, but you could have the Cenobiums be Deathwing. So if you don’t need the strength reduction from the Dreadwing buff, Madrak can get +1 to hit with his sword

[@TheRainman614]

On page 151 of my Liber Astartes it says that the transport vehicles have to be the same Hexagrammaton Wing but the next sentence says that Legion Apothecaries and Techmarines can be a different Wing. Giving these units a different Wing gives the unit and auto 2 wings to choose from, throw in an independent character and you can now choose between 3 wing abilities. Great for Despoilers if you go Death Wing on the unit, Dread Wing on the Apothecary, and Fire Wing on a Chaplain that gets added to the unit. Now you get to choose between all 3 when you get into combat and if getting +1 to hit vs +1 to wound vs units with independent characters.

[@IVIaskerade]

That part of the book says that apothecaries and techmarines can have wings selected on an individual basis when you purchase the detachment, which is necessary because they have to have the same wing as the squad they join.

[@andrewpavone5429]

I remember Ben from some great worthy painting videos - seems a nice dude

[@warpaintjj]

Not my legion, but this was brilliant! Shared with my DA opponent. Keep up the best 30k content, love it!

[@BearfootMiniatures]

Cheers mate! Glad you found it helpful, hopefully your mate doesn’t tell you we were super wrong!

[@NessieKnows]

sorry im late to this but this sparks my need to finish building my Dark Angel army for HH2

[@BearfootMiniatures]

Glad it could inspire you! Let me know your insta handle if youve got one so I can follow along!

[@alegria3176]

Companions are kinda anti dreadnought, as you deploy shields in the movement phase, so with a large squad you probably have 7 terranic greatswords hitting at a higher initiative, which can even kill a leviathan when you hit on threes, as you can pay for jump packs and pretty much choose your targets. Like I did 12 wounds to the leviathan I my lats game with the murderous strike, and it was dead before it could fight back

[@inferno9103]

Warlord traits picked at the army composition step. Thats why senechal of keys is bad. And it gives additional assault reaction

[@sonnyjh]

Enjoyed that. Ref NL, you’re right about prey sight starts adding up the costs, prob at least 60-90pt needs to be invested in Prey Sight (without adding The Night Haunter.

[@BearfootMiniatures]

100%, not an auto include per squad just for LD I don’t think but definitely on the key shooting units (cough lascannons) Can end up just deploying outside the 24 and shooting with impunity in NF

[@DeusExMachina10001]

Curze is almost auto-include in NL lists over 2k points. Especially in Terror Assault, he's just too good as a buffing character not to take. Night Vision aside, Bloody Murder on everything plus ATfM basically makes NL into better World Eaters. Plus because he's so mobile, if you give him a jump pack Command Squad for Line, he can run around the table as a Denial unit killing most things and kiting anything that could potentially kill him back. Plus if you run around slaughtering Line units , his King of Terrors rule makes it even harder to do anything about him cuz half your opponent's army is Pinned.

[@ShadowCore671]

Bikes and jetbikes get shrouded if they run. That's where the ravenwing reroll comes into play

[@BearfootMiniatures]

aaaaah there we go then! leaning combat for sure then to always be gaining that shrouded!

[@InvisibleYogurt]

Seneshal of the keys does give an extra assault reaction, as per its last sentence. The faction selection is also not specified to be at start of game, so its still kind of bad though since its technically made at list creation. Marshal of the Crown's leadership buff also only applies to 1 Hexagrammaton type, so I don't really like that one if i'm not going all in on 1 Hexagrammaton type.

[@BearfootMiniatures]

Ye, it’s certainly a downside to the warlord trait, but is still solid compared to the traits of some other legions imo Super customisability of their special rules I think is just such a good legion characteristic

[@EAfirstlast]

:P Waiting on that batrep

[@BearfootMiniatures]

Scheduled release was going to be tomorrow, but with the release of the Mech book were going to try and squeeze in a game and get mech uploaded tomorrow with the DA game as back up (and will be released next 30k slot)

[@imgrey5806]

Hello There!!! I have a question concerning Plasmaguns. A mate told me to put a unit with plasma if not more. Because there is no overheat for the Dark Angels. But I can't find that rule in the Rulebook. Thanks in advance!!

[@BearfootMiniatures]

Hey! The only thing I can think of is if they were referring to the plasma burner (flamer plasma)! If your going with them I’d definately go interemptors, the weapons are great and the addition of the torrent plasma flamers are really good for getting maximum hits!

[@imgrey5806]

@@BearfootMiniatures thanks!!!

[@newtpondskipper]

Not being given Line for Destroyers in their Rite is rubbish. I'm not just saying that because I love the unit and field multiples of them...

[@BearfootMiniatures]

Painful mate painful! Seems wierd wherever there’s the lack of line (im still weirded out that just all troops aren’t line tbh!) And 100% no bias taken whatsoever by you having loads of destroyers!

[@newtpondskipper]

@@BearfootMiniatures One of the few other things I'd have liked to have seen was giving Teleport access to Deathwing Terminators. So many references in the fluff and books but not able to do so in the game is annoying.

[@TheDob5880]

Any links on how to build a viable list?

[@BearfootMiniatures]

Hey mate! I’ll get round to specific videos soon I think (as the videos were already like an hour long) for Dark angels bens list is pretty nasty that can be seen in the game we did at the same time as this guide (it won every game at a pretty harsh WhW tournament)

[@TeAXIIIT13]

Unless you’re fighting dreadnoughts (which you shouldn’t be with a primarch) or custodes the wolf blade is the better weapon, more attacks, you wound on 2’s with shred, your doubling out terminators and veterans. The lion sword loses half its benefits against dreads and a dread will smush a primarch so you shouldn’t be fighting against them with him

[@BearfootMiniatures]

I think part of the logic VS dreads has been (round here) that the primach may be able to mook dreads before they go. Squads of Cenobium with the Lion, Corax and furys both seem to do it quite handily: although if the dread gets to strike they can mulch a lone primach, or atleast do catastrophic damage,

[@r.j.macready]

Disagree as the Lion Sword wounds dread on 2s (loses the rerolls) and inflicts instant death so every failed save is d3 damage to the dread instead of 1. The Lion makes his points back quite easy killing even 1 dread as those dreads represent so much value over the game that its worth it to have Lion spend 1 or 2 turns taking it out before killing another unit. If he has a retinue it's definitely over in 1 round.

[@caboosealmighty3735]

They need to do a luther model where he can be taken by both loyalist or traitors.

[@BearfootMiniatures]

I wonder if they’ll ever do him: would be super cool to get a model to see what they envision aswell!

[@caboosealmighty3735]

@@BearfootMiniatures I can see them doing one when they do the scouring books. The rules set and units in theory should be the same for that period.

[@BearfootMiniatures]

@@caboosealmighty3735 man dont tease me with scouring books! that would be immense, so hope they do novels aswell

[@DaddyWarCrimes78]

Don't forget that Unbroken Vow requires you to hold an objective without troops with Line, and makes you take Deathwing for a bunch of Terminators (who you never want to give swords to).

[@pablosturm6640]

Just take vets with calibanite warblades and some shooty, maybe plasma burners, with Apothecary in a Rhino or somesuch. A 10 man unit will put down two S6 AP4 Breaching 4+ templates, then charge with 30 attacks hitting on 2s wounding on 3s while getting hit back on 5s, mulching marines. Also, FNP 4+ when close to the objective thanks to Heart of the Legion+Apothecary. And a Command Squad+Praetor in a Land Raider for taking that one all important objective. Boom. Deathwing.

[@BearfootMiniatures]

Boom there we go! Me and Ben were focussing too much on terminators possibly in the vid!

[@DaddyWarCrimes78]

@@pablosturm6640 Veterans aren't characters, so they can't take Warblades, and paying 20 points each for plasma burners is insane. This is all doubly insane for a unit in a Rhino that can't disembark and charge so you have to run up, hope they don't React away, shoot your plasma burners, hope they don't have better guns than you to return fire with, then charge. Or drive your Rhino up, disembark, hope they don't React away, shoot your guns, hope you don't get wrecked by return fire if they have a few meltaguns, then stand there and get shot in the face for a turn before you get to charge.

[@newtpondskipper]

@@pablosturm6640 Now I have to write this down and try this out.

[@horuslupercal9936]

That one sentence right there is what keeps SO many people away from 30k/40k. Just a ridiculous amount of army rules and modifiers.

[@r.j.macready]

Sigismund should not have eternal warrior, it separates him too much. He occupies a space between marines and primarchs

[@mikediamond1234]

That’s exactly how he is written in the lore. I think abaddon out of all the characters should have IW considering he is the main villain in 40K

[@r.j.macready]

@@mikediamond1234 yeah that's my alternative. Either a small handful of marine characters get it or none of them do.

[@inferno9103]

Companions must deploy ALL shoelds. They can move, but xannot shoot or attack. Its good to read rules

[@Dan-gw9gd]

The plasma repeater is there to be played aggressively . Stop being a caword

[@BearfootMiniatures]

The plasma incinerator is just loads better imo for being aggressive with the squad, how are you running your repeaters?

[@Dan-gw9gd]

@@BearfootMiniatures I play night lords were you basically have two maybe three turns to do as much damage as possible before the night fighting is over which leans Into playing aggressively! And would love to be able to take plasma repeaters