I shall endeavour to get the lists off people in future!

High elves and wood elves being in there… surely the Dark elves need to come back properly (imo more important than others as they’re the counterpoint to those two)

Thanks mate, but rules right?! you must be crazy!?

Glad you liked it mate!

100% the best primach game wise atm with the brutal 3, he doesnt have the hammer at istvaan V, or the novels/this game wouldve been much different!

Really glad to hear it came across well!

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It was if a unit's (who is charging) rad grenades are denied by someone holding the line

@@BearfootMiniatures so under rad grenades it has "During a turn in which a unit with at least one model with rad grenades successfully Charges, or is themselves successfully Charged" then in the rulebook Pg 182 under "Disordered charges" it says "A unit making a Disordered Charge does not gain the +1 Charge Bonus to its number of Attacks usually gained from a Charge, or any other bonus granted by special rules that require the unit or model to have successfully Charged an enemy unit." That last bit is what stops rad or even frag grenades working in certain situations. A big one it messes up is Golden Keshig lances. As such a defending unit from a disordered charge with rad grenades works. A charging unit with rad grenades which makes a disordered charge does not gain the benefit. The controversial part comes from whether or not rad grenades as wargear classes as a "special rule". This is not the case for the Golden Keshig lance as they have a special rule attached to the weapon.

its not that they will dominate, they just get shat on far too much I think, particularly the Elf ones striking so fast

Glad to hear you liked it mate, and that the banter came across well (it’s hard to know if it will)

definitely possible to just sprint through it playing to win the scenario I agree (with luck on your side), trying for an alternate way is largely us attempting to eek a bit more out of it (otherwise its one of us just AAFing along the board edge)

@@BearfootMiniatures Yeah, that is true. At the same time, I think the scenario itself is structured in a way that you have to try to actually run the blockade since the attacker has 50% to the defenders 100%. The Convoy scenario is slightly different and might be more to your liking if you want this sort of, well, convoy feeling of smashing through rather than desperately running through. There is also something to say about the distinctions in list building. I played Blockade Runners with a Space Marine fleet vs Chaos who had a battleship. There was just no way that chaos could even touch me. Eldar are also extremely op as attackers in the scenario. Which I think makes a lot of canonical sense, and the scenario opens up for making some sort of ships that are otherwise lackluster (such as small amounts of Light Cruisers) very useable. Anyway, nice to see that you do BFG!

Hope you enjoyed it mate!

It’s a failing of the system mate: glad you liked it that much!

Great to hear it: thanks for the kind words mate!

Not a bad shout for that list, not one that id considered before, good spot!

Glad you liked it mate: and certainly back (or atleast one of the ferrus clones out for revenge in a tough galaxy)

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Skeletons are great. Skeleton archers are fantastic

Noooo: some lists have loads of infantry in! EMPIRE infantry is terrible

@@scottmills4164 Skeletons are great if your opponent charges them

@@gemmell761 that's what the archers are for. Force them to fight

being terrible at an appropriate cost is a great quality to have.

Now you say it…

Glad you enjoyed it mate!

Ooooh not a bad idea for an under-explored topic!

Glad you enjoyed the vid mate! I've just copied and pasted this to Phil as hell find it super useful (who has played DE on the channel a bit) glad theres support for the spearmen meta!

@@BearfootMiniatures my regards to Phil. If I remembered correctly, one year ago you and him did a video dedicated to the Dark Elves :). I still have that bookmarked.

glad to hear it works, ive been throwing around a list (not for super competitive games, just channel games) Ill paste it in a sec if you dont mind giving me thoughts!

Beastmen Brayherds draft Beastmen Brayherds 1,906 Wargor 101 Mangelder, heavy armour, shield Wargor 184 Slug-skin, Horn of the First Beast, Armour of Meteoric Iron, Battle Standard Bearer, great weapon Gorebull 145 great weapon, heavy armour, shield Bray-Shaman 125 Hagtree Fetish, Level 2 Wizard 21 Gors 185 True-horn (great weapon), standard bearer, musician, Ambushers, additional hand weapons 5 Chaos Warhounds 30 Tuskgor Chariot 85 27 Bestigors 450 Gouge-horn, standard bearer (Banner of Outrage), musician, Stubborn, Veteran 33 Gors 248 True-horn (great weapon), standard bearer, musician, additional hand weapons 3 Minotaurs 177 Bloodkine, standard bearer, musician, 3× great weapon, 3× shield Razorgor Chariot 120 Dragon Ogre 56

So it looks like a general pressure list where you're gonna run headlong at your opponent and hope you have the mass to crush them when you get there. I wonder if you're spreading your heroes a bit thin, a 4+ save isn't much. If you have Mangelder I usually want to put it with the Manbane Totem for a -3 leadership in combat.

Here's what I've been running. Sometimes I swap the Minos and Warhounds for 2x3 dragon ogres. Both heroes go in the bestigor brick making it -1 to be hit at all times and Magic Resist(2), 8x4 wide. Everything else operates to support the big brick, ambushing and scouting and vanguarding with a surprising amount of ranged pressure. === Beastmen Brayherds [1999 pts] Warhammer: The Old World, Beastmen Brayherds === ++ Characters [479 pts] ++ Beastlord [219 pts] - Hand weapon - Heavy armour - General - On foot - Pelt of the Dark Young - Enchanted Shield - Gnarled Hide - Pelt of Midnight Great Bray-Shaman [260 pts] - Braystaff - Level 4 Wizard - On foot - Talisman of Protection - Slug-skin - Daemonology ++ Core Units [868 pts] ++ 30 Bestigor Herd [440 pts] - Heavy armour - Stubborn - Gouge-horn [Great weapon] - Standard bearer - Musician 20 Gor Herd [177 pts] - Hand weapons - Additional hand weapons - Ambushers - True-horn [Great weapon] - Standard bearer - Musician 10 Ungor Herd [67 pts] - Hand weapons - Shield - Ambushers - Half-horn 10 Ungor Herd [57 pts] - Hand weapons - Shield - Half-horn 10 Ungor Herd [57 pts] - Hand weapons - Shield - Half-horn 5 Chaos Warhounds [35 pts] - Hand weapons (Claws and fangs) - Vanguard 5 Chaos Warhounds [35 pts] - Hand weapons (Claws and fangs) - Vanguard ++ Special Units [437 pts] ++ 5 Harpies [55 pts] - Hand weapons (claws) 5 Harpies [55 pts] - Hand weapons (claws) 3 Minotaur Herd [174 pts] - Hand weapon - Light armour - 3x Great weapon - Ambushers - Bloodkine - Musician 3 Minotaur Herd [153 pts] - Hand weapon - Light armour - 3x Shield - Bloodkine ++ Rare Units [215 pts] ++ Cygor [215 pts] - Hand weapon (claws) - Hurl attack - Light armour (calloused hide) --- Created with "Old World Builder" [old-world-builder.com]

Ungors should have shortbows*

Ye 100% man, such a good unit!

Ive used them a couple of times (literally 2), atm I find them definitely better than other empire infantry, but not combatting of the problems that empire infantry has (getting FBIGO rolled, which seems to be my new catch phrase when talking empire atm...) mate im even painting up flagellants frantically to see if I can make a "classic" empire army work (state troops holding the line and rifles and arty support)