Dark Sleeper VS. Gobius; How they Compare

[@tommytooturnt5547]

Cool channel man, you earned my sub with this video. Keep it up and Happy New Year!!!

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Thanks man. We really appreciate you! We hope to continue to earn your support.

[@omelettedufromage11]

Thank you both for the breakdown, really helps seeing the tail action as a striking difference. The issue with the eyes can kind of be mitigated with some super glue, so it's not a major issue. Happy Holidays!

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Super glue is a must for a lot of things! Good point. Thanks for tuning in.

[@raybrenneman7240]

With regards to the eyes coming off you can put a little mend it on the eyes and let it dry before using and the eyes will stay attached a lot longer. Concerning the gobious’s tail , movement can be increased by stretching the tail several times before using and the more zman elaztech is in water the softer it becomes. Thus the tail should move easier.

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Two REAL good tips Ray! Thanks for sharing them and thanks for tuning into the channel.

[@bassslacker2157]

Noticed the tail on the Gobius is slightly smaller. It also has a small tab sticking out the back. Would trimming the tab create less drag and give the bait a quicker tail action?Thanks for the comparison!

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Brother I thought the same thing. I’m going to do a little surgery on it and report back to you. Thanks for tuning in.

[@Mt10bobby]

The dark sleeper is one of my favorite baits of all time. I noticed the gobious at my local tackleshop the other day and picked a few up. Needless to say one single gobious has around 30 fish on it with no tears just paint wearing off and I have another with around 10 to 15 fish. The dark sleeper is great but so is the gobious.

[@markfisheroutdoors]

In your experience does Gobius catch them equally as well as DS?

[@Mt10bobby]

@@markfisheroutdoors yea in my experience the gobious catches just as much fish as the dark sleeper. I always have both.

[@markfisheroutdoors]

@@Mt10bobby thanks for the feedback brother. We appreciate you sharing and tuning into the channel.

[@danlaminger5265]

Definitely want to try the gobius for the durability! BUT Dark sleeper works so good. Hopefully gobius is just the same fish catcher . I usually bend the hook up abit on dark sleeper to get better hook penatration and cut the fin back abit too. Great job as always.

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Thank you sir. Good idea on bending the hook out.

[@inaslump]

I cut the fin off completely...hook up ratio was poor with it on...

[@crashdsnowman1]

Z man gremlins melted into one big blob in the original package in the top of a soft nylon kayak bag. Gobius deformed but since they are separated they didn't melt together. Have since changed to D.O.A. paddletails, they are much tougher than most lures. I just had one last 4 days(about 30 smallmouth) before it lost the shiny coating.

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Bummer!

[@ks_bass_snob]

Great comparison. My question for you is, are you using the rod to impart the hop or are you using the reel? Just curious on which way you do it, thanks.

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Yeah that’s a good question Jeremy, I was using the rod in the pool. Also, the retrieve that I catch fish on is more a combination of the crawl along the bottom with the hop added in. I don’t just keep hoping it like in the video. That was just to see the action and because we were filming in the shallow short side of the pool. Thanks for watching!

[@jddarby007]

You know Megabass is great when most lures are compared to their products.

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Good point. Thanks for tuning in.

[@matthewotis3594]

I mean everyone has knocked off the vision 110. Everyone has a jerkbait that's near identical now.

[@inaslump]

I cut the fin off the DS & my hook up ratio increased..I also gives it a narrower profile

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Good tip. Any problems with weeds or increased snags?

[@tobybobo6539]

Have you done a under water on the sleeper gill, would love to see that!

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Sounds like a plan. We’ll put it on the list. Thanks for watching.

[@jessiepayne737]

I’m leaning toward the Z-Man the fact the hook is not restricted thus a better hook percentage. Just what I got and it’s more resilient. Thanks for the challenge video.

[@markfisheroutdoors]

We appreciate you tuning in!

[@inaslump]

Thanks for the video...Im not a fan of ALOT of the zman soft plastics..The action just isn't there and floats to much..Zman hasn't git down the salt to float ratio down yet..

[@markfisheroutdoors]

We appreciate your feedback. One thing I would suggest is to use those properties that you identified as negative to your advantage when they are applicable. Thanks for tuning in.

[@TomStarcevich-fb3qo]

Z man gobius for me I've got both but the zman gobius has caught more small mouth for me plus it's more durable 👍🐟🎣

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@matthewotis3594]

Gotta try gobius. The dark sleeper keeps its fins over and through the hook. Caught fush many times where the hook went through the fin then into fishes moth. Maybe thats how ive lost a few on it. Have to check it out

[@markfisheroutdoors]

If you’re of the mind to, go to fishingurus.com and use our discount code MFO 10. You will get a 10% discount on the Gobius and support the channel as well! Thanks

[@curtadams3281]

I've yet to have a tail bit off on a Dark Sleeper... and I don't notice any difference in the amount of fish caught on a Dark Sleeper with or without the eyes !

[@markfisheroutdoors]

That’s good feedback! I’m curious, do you catch most of your fish using the same “hopping” action I described in the video? Thanks for tuning in and commenting.

[@curtadams3281]

@@markfisheroutdoorsI mainly work it slowly across the bottom, occasionally adding a small hop . But I'm catching walleye and small mouth, typically on rock structure.

[@otroflores91]

Halibut and seabass tear the tail off the dark sleeper. Switched over the z man.

[@erniebrightfishing]

I like the berkley agent E designed by Edwin Evers.

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Sounds like a there might be a new challenger in the ring (pool) soon! Thanks for watching.

[@fishinfrenzy2544]

The agent e can not even be compared to the dark sleeper the tail kicks way better on the dark sleeper on the fall and at slow speeds

[@quebecoutdoors1307]

the idea dehord the smaller paddle with less action on the gobius is that of the gobies wich this imitate don't swim with the tail they swim with the lateral fins , this migth not have an impact everywhere but on the great lakes or any body of water with gobies it's probably best not to have a lot of tail action

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Interesting, that’s one of the reasons I love this channel, we all learn stuff! I appreciate you watching and commenting.

[@quebecoutdoors1307]

@@markfisheroutdoors great videos ! just discovered your channel and i subscribed

[@markfisheroutdoors]

@quebecoutdoors1307 thank you brother. We look forward to hearing from you often!

[@TheWaymont]

The catch rate is the same between the DS and the Gobius for me, but man the Gobius last so much longer. The finish lasts way longer on the Gobius too.

[@seatee4770]

I like the dark sleeper better as the tail wags alot more than the gobius

[@markfisheroutdoors]

That’s our observation as well but as I mentioned I get most of my bites on the hop when the bait is falling and the tail on Gobius seemed to flap in that situation. We appreciate you watching!

[@JimJoyceChoate]

Z-MAN for me.

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Jim, have you used them or our you saying that based on our video?

[@JimJoyceChoate]

@@markfisheroutdoors I have not used them. Your video told me what I needed to know. Thanks.

[@tobybobo6539]

Maybe just me but the Z Man seemed to fall faster, the dark sleeper has better action 🤷

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Yes as another viewer pointed out, the tail on the DS is bigger which probably slows the fall rate while giving it more action. Thanks for your comment and we hope you keep turning in.

[@gilbertvaldezjr3233]

Dam

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Not sure what to say…..

[@bronzebackbrownies]

The dark sleeper can mimic a goby and a bait fish. The zman goby looks closer to a goby. The dark sleeper fools' em on lake ontario, prob will stick with it.

[@markfisheroutdoors]

Typically we don’t push one bait or the other on underwater Wednesday. We just show what they’re like in the water and let you decide. Thanks for your input.

[@Ben-by1hp]

Dark Sleeper ALL DAY ! Gobius doesn't last longer and it doesn't get you more fish in the boat ! + it's not compatible with your other soft plastics, so it's a BIG NO for me !

[@markfisheroutdoors]

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