Dark Souls 2 downgrade full comparison

A more precise and complete comparison between the final game and the 2013 gameplay reveal.
Reproducing the same camera angles is a very tedious task because of the broken deadzones from the PC port ( • Dark Souls 2 Gamepad C... ). Recorded on max settings. 720p because it was the quality of the showcase. Closeups: imgur.com/a/S9R7W
Gameplay reveal: • Dark Souls 2 - Gamepla...

[@ymfah]

This hurts more than I can imagine

[@ChunLo21]

"Perhaps you've seen it, maybe in a dream, a murky forgotten land"

[@DeadKraken]

I feel ya bro. Dark Souls 2 was the first(and only) pre-order I have ever got in my life. Nothing tops that sense of absolute despair I had when I saw the graphics and that shitty level design for the first time....... ;_;

[@Juunasd]

Than*

[@overfeen]

Hey i watch your videos

[@johnalkhas9643]

LadyKraken Would you really rather have amazing graphics or good game performance?

[@suedonnym]

A subtle detail I really love about the original is that when you light the bonfire its light then reveals the statue of the embracing woman. What an awesome way to reinforce that bonfires are the sparks of comfort and safety in the 'dark' of this world. Shame it got cut.

[@ash_1419]

You can do that in the game...just use a sweetfx mod

[@Jmoney10000]

@@ash_1419 they actually banned people in the early days for using any type of shader mod. Stupid ass FromSoftware

[@LSK2K]

@@ash_1419 sweetfx doesn't add dynamic lighting and shadowing. It's just a glorified filter

[@SUNNYDINTHEREAL]

I think they should remove all mentions of women

[@qwegol1]

honestly, this entire situation feels like a sonic unleashed situation that game looked way ahead of its time and they went for it, unfortunately it played like shit in a lot of areas and later sonic games made the graphics worse for playability ds2 had a similar fate except they never released the super good graphics.

[@videogamesTSH]

Makes you realise how important lighting is

[@Zamalshkay]

yep u can make as high quality assets as u can but if lighting and shadowing isnt proper on scene this shit will look like 80s game

[@Jequetepeq]

Thats why a lot of people use minecraft shaders.

[@arthurhutchinson2755]

Lighting plays a huge factor. Just look at the first FEAR and Doom 3... Without lighting, the two games would look like absolutely dog shit smeared on a bathroom stall's wall.

[@firuzmajid4780]

I know that they removed the lightning because of performance issues, and the absence of Miyazaki as the director.

[@charlie1234500]

Texture quality was improved. Only the lighting was downgraded, severely. Video games for the longest have used outdated techniques to simulate lighting, which for the most part, only reaches serviceable, at best. Unfortunately, consoles are always mostly to blame. The current push for games to have better lighting for next gen is going to have a huge jump in how a video game looks, even if texture and graphic quality can look lackluster or be downgraded. Ray tracing is going to be amazing.

[@paulrafalo1591]

Your dedication to recreating the demo as closely as possible is the most impressive part of this video. I can’t imagine how long that took and I thank you for it cus the side-by-side view is super effective

[@will_caruso_987]

It looks better and worse at the same time

[@meelans6126]

Preview - motion blur Blur all round Lighting and shadow FX Final product - No ambience Barely any lighting Less blur Higher fidelity of textures/higher resolution

[@Chronologger]

No it doesn't, it just looks worse.

[@kaiewaii]

its brighter and more clear to see where your going. i do agree it looks worse but from a game play perspective i prefer the right.

[@FloppyDisk893]

It does, I want a mixture of both

[@corruptor5150]

I was thinking the same.

[@BubbleDouble]

The downgraded one looks like your game will look after following those boost FPS guides.

[@cacomeat7385]

Bubble Double for real

[@nicolasriveros943]

Bubble Double and actually that's The reason for it was downgraded in The first place. Edit: i wonder if Low Spec Gamer worked with From Software (?

[@Odinsday]

The original demo ran like shit so they had to follow that FPS boost guide you talked about.

[@antond12312]

It still won't run well because fromsoft can't make good pc ports.

[@nicolasriveros943]

Butter Butt actually The port for DS 2 Is pretty good, i can Run it my laptop with Intel graphics 4000 at 40 fps (in low qualtity sure) and without need of some External mod like ds fix. Now The port for DS 1 and 3 on The other Hand...

[@HankGreenburg]

The old one clearly had worse "graphical quality" (as in texture resolution, detail, etc), but it had much better and more fitting lighting, shading, atmosphere, and a more cohesive model style. The update just makes it look like an out of place asset flip game.

[@coryhenshaw8487]

not even true, look at the giant sword at 5:00 the old quality is way better

[@creepguys2293]

Urm... i think its because the old one was still in beta?

[@casdf7]

the lighting was definetely better, not just artistically. However the rest was worse. I think they could not pull off that lighting on the old consoles

[@wesleyscott1633]

Noze I think they did it to be more fair. It’d be pretty bs if half the time you had to sacrifice a shield for a torch. It’d like if Tomb of the Giants was in multiple different areas. And they knew everyone hated that area, and likely why they made the new lighting more simple and fair

[@Hakeens]

The old one had that Dark souls 1 look

[@aimalkhan5028]

Goes to show how lighting is as crucial as graphical quality

[@lelandrb]

huge reason why the bluepoint demon souls remake looks so good. the lighting improvement is incredible

[@420malbania4]

@lelandrb Bluepoint ballsed the Demon's Souls lighting up much more than it improved it. Took away a lot of the fantasy lighting in favor of realism in more cases than improvement. In my opinion the best way to play Demon's Souls is on RPCS3 with the 60 fps patch and a simple resolution upscale.

[@lelandrb]

@@420malbania4 if by "fantasy lighting" you mean "no lighting". pretty much every single from software, especially elden ring, has flat, neutral lighting. sometimes bright, sometimes dark. no surprise that adding lighting makes it more realistic

[@lelandrb]

​@@420malbania4 the tower of latria is a great example. the prison is just drab yellow and green in the original, which is randomly cast from the walls, lol. the remake has the green be emitted by flickering, sinister torches. way more atmospheric

[@soulcall4284]

@@lelandrb Yeah I can't stand the lighting in ER most of the time. There is no bloom. Funnily enough, ER has a lot of that DS2 look to it. DS2 with just lightingengine and 4k textures looks really good though. Honestly ER graphics are a step backwards. Bluepoint not even being a developer of the original game, still has the most next gen looking Souls game, and by extension, Fromsoft game.

[@arkos3470]

seems like they removed Dark from Dark souls

[@lucasmontero1456]

Ah yes, my favourite game franchise.....Souls

[@BigJunnySoprano69]

Lucas Montero Actually by removing all the dark in the game they removed all the heart and SOUL the game has so now it’s just called... Man? Sword Man?

[@LonesomeKrow]

The only true “Souls” title

[@sk8mysterion]

How true

[@dddmemaybe]

@@lucasmontero1456 And if you play offline it's the new movie: Soul.

[@sownheard]

Dark souls 2 looks so friendly compared to the demo

[@kyotheman69]

final product is to light hearted, to many lit areas

[@tyquanfleming8690]

Sownheard mgp

[@TA-ew9bi]

Dark souls 2 is an arcade game

[@StratmanJerry]

I gotta put on sunglasses every time I go to majula or iron keep. Fucks sake From

[@ievgeniiromenskyi3375]

well it wasn't friendly to me first time I've played it

[@alexm7398]

I remember when they said the Torch was going to actually be useful because the map would have good dynamic lightning. It was used in like the one room you find it...then never again lmao.

[@XCVBNMC]

Raider2k not really. The only time you will use it is in the boss fight to lock on and that's it. The area resets and so do the torches which makes them useless.

[@promant6458]

Raider2k Lost Sinner

[@Deathenvyify]

Promant something tells me you never found the key that lets you light up oil ducts on both sides outside the bosses room. It turns the lights on in there so you dont have to waste room in your inv with a torch

[@promant6458]

Mark Franco Of course I found that key. Where did you get that idea from? You asked which boss, I just answered. You can lock on the Sinner from further distance if you have torch, but you can use it (the torch, not Sinner ;) )to light up lamps aswell, what pretty works the same.

[@pabsensi]

Xcho you do though. Many enemies react to fire and you need it to light several darker areas. At least in SotFS.

[@ketamineaddict5659]

After the Demon’s Souls remake let’s go back and fix Dark Souls 2

[@soxer8799]

This needs more likes

[@ketamineaddict5659]

Soxer lol

[@dickheadrecs]

i still want to play the game on the left

[@onewontdo]

Not really possible.

[@ketamineaddict5659]

Shane everything does

[@MikeDeLaMorte]

This seems to explain all those random torch light points in the game. :MIND BLOWN:

[@mooganify]

And the fact that they disappear as time goes on

[@leoortiiiz]

@Zoe Kin Don't blame consoles for downgrading a game, are you saying that they removed lightning and dark places to be console compatible? Lol

[@DukeoftheAges]

@@leoortiiiz Yes, many other games have had to change their original vision to be able to be run on consoles. It would make since that consoles caused this as pc can easily handle it.

[@leoortiiiz]

@@DukeoftheAges The creator of the mod that fixes the lightning said that it's because the game was rushed and made crossgem

[@justinduck2953]

@OX XY ds2 was originally supposed to be a ps4, xbox one game. But there were problems during development and bandai namco got annoyed so they fired the director and told the new one to release the game for ps3 and xbox 360 and way earlier than it was originally planned to release. So yeah the game wasn't meant to be cross gen, only current gen. So despite wanting to shit on consoles like a typical redditor, the problem was that the game was rushed and had a new director half way through development. That's why a lot of areas in the final game are connected in such weird ways (you know, elevator up the sky). They had already made those levels but didn't have time to connect them properly

[@PacdemonStudios1]

The bland, flat look of DS2 is the greatest example of the importance of lighting.

[@fnd2583]

Nah. People didn't care that DS3 downgraded their lighting to DS1 levels

[@wallacesousuke1433]

Huge Hombre lighting doesn't matter in the slightest, in fact, the pre-release version looks unplayable

[@MercurialIris]

Willy et scientia your opinion is bad.

[@theprocrastinator6813]

Twilight princes for the GameCube had better lighting, until it was washed out in the wii u version. Hope Skyward sword doesn't get the same treatment

[@Cplusplus745]

Are there any mods which make ds2 look like riginal

[@TypicallyUniqueOfficial]

1:50 is the best example of the entire comparison. They upgraded the texture of the bridge but forgot everything else.

[@Jaqen-HGhar]

except it's not an upgraded texture, I don't get where people are saying the comparison on the right has upgraded textures at all. The only reason any of the textures on the right look better is because they are comparing a capture from an IGN video of a 360 game to a PC port so of course certain things will look clearer.

[@BabyKuhnGames]

@@Jaqen-HGhar except the game as a whole used to have much better lighting with dark rooms you had to take slow and methodically now it's bright as hell with no need for a torch throughout the entire game. In an atmospheric game, lighting is everything and they ruined it

[@jaheim123]

Wait why they removed the monsters in the new one what ? 🤦‍♂️ why they downgrade it ....

[@Zero-zr6xx]

@@jaheim123 i know its late but the Game Development was Hold 2 years Too Early also and PS3's then cannot run the pre release because the fps is extremely low

[@sreyerbri7469]

@@jaheim123 They didn't remove the lizards dumbass, there's just less of them so they're not impossible to fight.

[@crispychicken2003]

The final release definitely has a lot of improvements but they took a lot of steps back with the lighting and overall feel of the game. The preview version would’ve been such a blast and scary experience. Honestly if they would’ve just kept the lighting the same.

[@edgelord121]

It was probably to optimize its performance. I remember this game ran smooth af

[@grayhunterx352]

Sadly the game came out for the ps3 when the ps4 was already out, while most of the studio was working on an actual ps4 exclusive game. they didn't want to deliver laggy game again and had to remove all of the lighting system in the process, They could've revived it fot sotfs but didn't bothered to.

[@pleasesubscribedad]

This is truly the Dark Souls of graphical downgrades.

[@legobricknator]

Everything is insipired by dark souls if you look hard enough.

[@pleasesubscribedad]

Karmic Lucke “if you look hard enough you are dark souls” - IGN

[@Dfrosty1987]

lmao good one

[@vitorcordeiro5070]

This is the Dark Souls of the comments

[@backgroundcharacter4099]

This is truly The Dark Souls of reviews

[@Telic]

My eyes light up whenever i see you upload

[@Big_Z60]

Nani??

[@jippalippa]

07:10. Completely different mood.

[@jordanmyers1450]

jippalippa when i go back and llay the first DS there is an atmosphere that DS2 just never had. DS2 just feels like a land with no Soul.

[@FrogTonic]

Jordan Myers Ahhhhh ahaha he, get it? No SOUL?!?!?

[@jordanmyers1450]

PotatoizedRock *laughs in skeletor

[@RyderPlatinumWarpstar]

It feels like in some areas of the final game, it looks fantastic visually, my biggest example being the Looking Glass Knight and Majula. Other areas just look way too dull without the shading.

[@Jmoney10000]

Facts. Dark Souls 2 just seems way to bright and dark at some times. It would’ve have been really cool to see realistic lighting in the game. I bet they removed that feature because they thought it would piss off a lot of casuals.

[@taroken8846]

@@Jmoney10000 pretty good for an excuse but no the dude here lied with a straight face for reasons that he knows , probably orders from the previous director who by the way is now replaced by the better man .

[@armando1is1great]

@@taroken8846 What is shown is a genuine build of DS2 running. Its just that the Ps3 and 360 would never be able to handle the lighting they initially showed off.

[@edimarrodrigrove3377]

@@armando1is1great No, it could. The beta version (2013) of Dark Souls 2 has this lightning effects, the frame rate was like 25-30fps. The retail version is like 35-40fps.

[@Luhiner]

@@armando1is1great fromsoft always has perfomance issues on their games even on high end hardware such a shame

[@jajr4838]

9:38 Call me crazy but that's the castle where princess Fiona was kept: In a cliff, connected to the land only by a rope bridge and custodied by a red dragon.

[@zaishijunior9455]

lol good comment

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Let's now talk about the superior game: Shrek Super Slam.

[@mayhare9754]

Holy fuck, you're absolutely right

[@GalaxiusPilgrim]

Doesn't even look remotely like it

[@JordyLaFordge]

Good call 👍

[@MuleyxHD]

I remember seeing that guy use the torch & being blown away by how beautiful it looked...then using it in game myself and dying inside LOL.

[@rozza1903]

thank god the gutter exists

[@TheKarui]

no, fuck the gutter.

[@TheSpyChecker]

Why, exactly? There were better lighting effects in some games made before 2008...

[@rozza1903]

its not how good it looked, its how it was utilized, without torches you could barely see ahead of you, but with torches you could light up the place and from the 1st bonfire you could see these lights which were the torches you had lit up, probs the most original area in the game

[@Revalopod]

@@TheSpyChecker there was better lighting effects in 1998, in Unreal

[@WhiteMousse1980]

1:51 Just look at all those amazing repeating floor textures

[@ManoFerrero]

I can't look cause now i'm Blind

[@mooganify]

Oh no, a moment of the game that will hardly be noticed and isnt even important is repeated, this is the most pressing issue of this game

[@ogplr5914]

This cracked me up hahahahaha

[@lucklesscope8367]

@@mooganify It was a valid point tho since it repeats itself multiple times through-out the game, your sarcastic comment can't ignore that fact

[@8304u]

Truly the best souls game, b team perfecting the genre...

[@onii-chain]

“yeah we mostly focused on improving the graphics” brightness X10000000000

[@nutandhakal5289]

I don't think that is the case. Other areas that need to be dark are kept dark. Like drangleic castle and such. Cardinal tower having less light doesnot even make much sense. Theres fire from down below near the fireball lizards location. Lighting up the whole area near it.

[@gramplegust5115]

I don't know what's worse: The fact that they released the game without telling anyone about the downgrade, or that they decided it was a good idea to just re-release the exact same downgraded game on the newer systems without putting any effort into making it look as it was originally intended.

[@Bloodhurl67]

GloryToStan Well they could have upgraded it in the new gen systems but NOOOO...

[@nathaniel106]

I imagine it's hard to take assets from a gameplay reveal and use them to make an upgraded version of a game you've already made with different assets. Seriously though, there is so much more to doing that that it's absurd

[@ajsingh4545]

I rather have the later version with 60 FPS than the E3 version at 25-30 FPS on current gen consoles. I think they made a wise decision.

[@Bloodhurl67]

AJ Singh I don't give two shits about fps when it comes to third person. I don't think they've made a good decision at all.

[@Bloodhurl67]

ak so K

[@Pikachujc]

just in time as always crowb nice work bringing this to us while it's still topical

[@Mantis4]

LUL

[@Jinars.]

Some Prick can't wait till next year for the ds3 comparison

[@hatskeleton635]

Except we were notified of the changes with DS3 because there was live betas.

[@charlie1234500]

Some Prick How?

[@InVinoVeratas]

^Woosh

[@RoboHoundGames]

lol, the dragon skeleton just going away was hilarious

[@correctcritic9749]

So fucking shit

[@ckkqwer2611]

the old one feel more interesting and immersive, but it is going to be painful when you have to play a long time, kinda want a compromise between these two version.

[@MatthewTheUntitled]

Make places that are supposed to be dark darker Upgrade graphics so it won't look like it's upscaled PS2 game, the game looks so crispy... in the worst way Imagine making a game that looks better and worse at the same time

[@annhentaiuser6658]

Hence, the balanced lighting of Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, and even Sekiro.

[@martinivanov1319]

all this because consoles suck. if they released this one on pc, the console players would cry because theirs look way inferior. we all have to receive the same product. in that case - a worse product

[@royolaniye6643]

@@martinivanov1319 Didn't Dark Souls 2 release on PS3? Probably why

[@martinivanov1319]

@@royolaniye6643 idk, ps5 is the first time consoles are powerful tho. previous playstations always have been weak(can barely hold 30 fps on ultra low) compared to pc hardware when they came out. this is the first time that games can actually advance in performance, visuals and physics because everything is made with ps in mind and this time ps isnt weak

[@indeimaus]

it's a darn shame

[@levishelm426]

I love you videos! (classic comment)

[@AsterSea]

Indeimaus Top 10 dark souls 2 light sources video.

[@maxinator317]

Indeimaus "darn"

[@stupidlyoptimistic6692]

Holyshit you watch crowbcat! We must connected (*_*)

[@Sean.Thomas2]

💉🐎🙄

[@Noelosky]

I love the way you present your videos man. Not a single comment needed, you just let facts speak for themselves.

[@sonicboom564]

TriggeredSaiyan he comments in the title and description with clear bias, fuck do you mean?

[@NaikoArt]

that his "bias" is actually supported by the content of the video, he doesnt need to add any stupid obvious commentary or over the top humor to appeal or some shit.

[@cypherusuh]

some of his content are usually saturated on the worst possible case of the topic but then again, truth is truth, no matter which part you shine the lights on

[@sonicboom564]

but he does, which he does in the description and title, not the video. he does it to create a false sense of neutrality that’s somewhat passive aggressive, like FOX or MSNBC.

[@DeathmetalPersian]

Marvin Butler II oh fuck off. Hes presenting an argument and backing it with visual evidence. His bias is clear and understood that he sees these changes as a negative. You as a living, thinking human should be able to understand this and still accept his evidence as true enough reason to think negatively of this practice. If the fact that game developers lie makes you so butthurt maybe you should go see what its like to work as one in this industry.

[@KaboOrz]

the fucking skeleton dragon just disappearing LOL

[@clintonleonard5187]

What really blows my mind is that the pre-downgrade version is what my mind remembers Demon's Souls looking like. I remember that game had such good looking environments when it came out.

[@vrowed7422]

and it still does !! Seeing the old DS2 also reminds me of demon's souls. It uses lighting very well

[@ValleDelSergio]

This is the Dark Souls of comparisons

[@JuliusCaesar103]

Noche de Juegos best comment

[@teehundeart]

Lighting is definitely downgraded and makes DS2 look flat in many areas. But goddamn the demo is dark. I can't see a thing and would propably really strain my eyes.

[@hatskeleton635]

That was supposed to be the game. You know, tactical?

[@teehundeart]

@@hatskeleton635 eye strain is not tactical.

[@yourshits_fuckingweak1675]

teehundeart that comeback was actually pretty good lol

[@Yawyna124]

@@teehundeart Tactical eye strain deployed! We'll get 'em next time.

[@ricardosavagestrike]

@@Yawyna124 Frigid Loyce sends regards.

[@salokin3087]

When crowb's uploaded, shit is about to get wild

[@T4Gxoxo]

Salokin You're right This upload is shit

[@urahi830]

roasty toasty you are not even trying to hide the massive butthurt

[@Corgun]

He definitely has a talent for riling up crowds.

[@urahi830]

I don't think getting called a nerd under a crowbcat video counts as an insult

[@Playingplayerz]

it's almost like content cop, but less beef, just facts

[@viggiestrikes]

I get that the extreme darkness could become cumbersome if implemented in most of the game but I like the idea of choosing between defense(shield) and visibility(torch). The latter would result in exciting, aggressive gameplay like bloodborne.

[@cherrygrabber7172]

That's me but with Skyrim and how few areas are dark enough to use a torch or light spell. Lighting as part of gameplay, can be very interesting at times and I like games that explore more of it.

[@luizhenriquebraunermoraes3175]

@@cherrygrabber7172 Making magelight relevant would really be a boon to spellsword characters. Having a lantern option for two-handed ungabunga warriors that can't cast anything would be cool too. I'll write this down on my game design notebook.

[@cherrygrabber7172]

@@luizhenriquebraunermoraes3175 Me lighting a match in a dark cave, Falmer surrounding me; was cool while it lasted, near the Snow Elf Temple.

[@luizhenriquebraunermoraes3175]

@@cherrygrabber7172 Falmer would be a really good choice for a creepy dark cave. Their whole lore was made specifically for dark places, even though I hate low visibility, I think it was a waste to put mushroom lightbulbs everywhere in their biomes lol

[@Nosttromo]

crowbcat copies the movement of the original one so flawlessly that when he cuts from his video to the demo, it seems like the same thing

[@buster38011]

How do we know crowbcat isn’t a girl? Might not be a dude...might not even be human

[@yeluvgod]

🤯

[@evangelism2]

Thanks for reopening old wounds, I had forgotten how bad this was.

[@lostnotyetfound6013]

P R A I S E \[T]/

[@IBBallinWithYoMom]

Your brain was trying to help you. Who still gives a shit about this good lord

[@MultiDeivas]

evangelism It isn't bad. People jusylt make it out to be so.

[@evangelism2]

@multideivas Yeah, I disagree it was fucking bad. They spend almost the entire demo highlighting the lighting system and how much it adds to the game, with it ending up being removed right before release. Not to mention the texture downgrade, particle effects, reflections as well.

[@evangelism2]

@ballin People who care about the video game industry for more than just 'muh madden and 2k'

[@ItsAGundam]

Thank God for PC mods..... Edit: even reshades and texture mods can't makeup for that many missing assets and enemies.

[@edwuncleriii3798]

It'sAGundam hello there mate just finished watching one of your videos

[@captainwonderbar1657]

ReShade is my butt buddy.

[@Blag_Cog]

Problem is these shader mods doesn't have the proper art direction nor the proper implementation to be highly optimized on the level that these development teams can make them.

[@ChannelYouMightLike]

+Blag Cog Agreed. They are, however, amazing tools. SweetFX, especially the older versions, is ridiculously easy to tweak and you can make the game look however you want once you've learn which effects do what. We'll never have E3 DS2, but being able to apply "my" own post-processing to games is both fun to do and look at afterwards.

[@retractingblinds]

mods don't fix a shit game.

[@baitposter]

Definitely would've preferred that older version that had higher poly details and better atmosphere. Low texture resolutions is a fine price to pay and easily remastered. A fair bit of things got streamlined out, even the doorframes looked better.

[@iloveyoushima]

Have you played both of them?

[@theta_clips]

"Low texture resolutions is a fine price to pay and easily remastered" This is the fucking problem we have with games nowadays. We just expect them to be fixed by remasters instead of looking good when they come out. Also, what are you talking about? People bitch about the low quality textures in DS2 release.

[@gozinta82]

@@iloveyoushima You can just tell by the demo, the door frames in the demo look WAYYY better. especially the pillars when player goes down the ladder. You can see it in the side-by-side comparison in the video.

[@rowdyramenkun4083]

Don’t let this distract you from the time Mr.Krabs traded Spongebob’s soul for 62 cents.

[@ZombieSlayer876]

Don't let this distract you from the fact RigeGum owns the clown 10 grand.

[@grantwilliams2650]

I have no words for how much I love both of your comments

[@Gaybootytwerk]

RowdyRamen Kun So wait are souls from Dark Souls 62 cents each?

[@joko49perez]

Jesus fucking Christ, you got me off guard.

[@aleomagic]

Steam>steamapps>common>Darksouls2>Graphics.txt>downgrade=1

[@AlmostGrewMyHair]

Nikola B What does that do?

[@ColeWolfsson]

god tier comment

[@wispy9859]

lowspecgamer approves

[@voidofspaceandtime4684]

Is this a joke, or do they have it labeled "downgrade" in the settings txt?

[@omnisel]

I wish

[@bleebloo2110]

This poor game needs a remake/reimagining. It has great features and great ideas but they need executed better

[@RCD97-hm5mv]

Its because Miyazaki didn't direct the game

[@numberjuan5837]

It’s entire combat and hitbox system needs reworking tbh

[@zatoka08]

@@RCD97-hm5mv This is quite misleading, since the second director was a very competent guy. If they had him from the start the game in my mind could be exceptional.

[@Pan_Z]

It really doesn't. Dark Souls 2 was a cash in by FromSoft and Namco. It's a mess with some interesting ideas, but ultimately boring levels and uncreative, repetitive bosses. Trying to improve it would be to greatly overhaul most of the game.

[@fabook1]

@@Pan_Z it has arguably the best pvp in the series

[@Wruce_Bayne]

CrowbCat is the Dark Souls of KZbinrs

[@reallybigbiscuit3568]

Bruce 'We want this to be the Dark Souls of FPS games'

[@fullofwhiskey4911]

Content cop of video games

[@NexusWarior211]

Bruce Crowbcat is the final boss of youtube

[@spartanmkvi3826]

He is a scumbag. Dunkey will punch him

[@AlexG012]

I don't want to break the 666 likes lol.

[@killinpeoples]

CrobCat - something of a Content Cop for the video gaming world. p.s. This video in particular is one I have been waiting for you to make for a while. Gotta say, you didn't disappoint.

[@fullfist]

Crowbat.

[@AzariusR]

CrowbCat* but yeah true.

[@TSMiller97]

Dark Souls? More like Light Souls. Tf happened to that shadowing?

[@Zamalshkay]

consoles happened

[@houstonraver834]

@@Zamalshkay STFU part 1 original was on console

[@Jon_1996.]

Zamal don't blame console for shitty game designers

[@Alex-hy9cw]

@@Jon_1996. it was consoles who caused this downgrade cause it couldn't go beyond 10 fps on ps3 so yes, console is to blame for this pathetic display;

[@Jon_1996.]

Alexander Verjans I'm not defending consoles but if FromSoft had actual good designers and programmers they could've work around it. But no they shit out this abomination of a game

[@Piratadoidao]

In the release, there are areas who look really lame and walls/floors that are just textures repeated, while in the old version/demo, the walls/floors had more than just repeated textures like in 1:51. The particle effects are downgraded at almost non-existent as well. Particle effects that were present in sword hitting the enemies, using items. And the UI looked better in the demo as well. I mean, if they created a version just like the old one, I would buy straight out. Because it looks so much better in comparison to the release.

[@churro5322]

Dynamics and layered textures are harder to run.

[@ProsperKelley]

Dark souls 2 hah more like light souls 2

[@dusk3219]

Prosper Kelley Underrated comment

[@Axodus]

lol that's what I was thinking, I was gonna write "Is it just me or is Dark Souls 2 too bright?"

[@tomaslozada9397]

Prosper Kelley OH SNAP!

[@nicolasriveros943]

Prosper Kelley Now o get The sentence From The Herald: ''To See LIGHT...'' (?

[@virtuallyperfect7973]

Lite Souls

[@F1rsttimer]

Looks like Ubisoft touched a door handle in FromSoftware Studios.

[@tomthestone1470]

F1rsttime_online _burn_

[@videoimmortal9447]

Ubisoft has only downgraded games when asked to by fans.

[@JonathanJoestarJuicefest]

Killer Ubisoft has already touched these graphics.

[@AverageDoomer69]

Ubisoft is Older than all of you filthy subhuman imbeciles , they downgraded a game or two because of console peasantry now it's all " oooh ubisoft downgrades oooh " shut the fuck up !

[@I.KUchiha]

LOOOOOOOL

[@someguy2351]

For anyone wondering why the E3 version looks so blurry: Low res textures (360 only had 512mb of RAM), strong depth of field in the distance, sub-720p render resolution that was common at the end of the console generation, and possibly FXAA, combined with KZbin compression. This footage is being compared to the PC port of the remaster at max settings. The focus should be on the missing lighting system, particles, shaders etc, not the clarity or lack thereof. I guarantee you the PC version of what DS2 should've been wouldn't look anywhere near as blurry.

[@Kechioma]

The textures thing is bullshit excuse. Splinter Cell Blacklist on 360 comes with an optional hd texture pack. Which looks a hell of a lot nicer then the textures in this game. The 360 could've done better, the devs just can't make a good looking game.

[@_Salok]

It's not the Scholar of the First Sin at all, enemy placement isn't the same.

[@Mart-E12]

Scholar of the first sin looks a shitton better

[@tigerfestivals5137]

someguy2351 yeah i don't think the footage on the right is from scholar

[@TheMrDemonized]

someguy2351 on video it is not the remaster

[@ilikemusic5440]

It’s been like 8 years and I’m still pissed off about this.

[@operandassembler]

We're sitting in the middle of a horrible pandemic and fascist uprising and all I can think about on the toilet is "the dark souls 2 visual and tonal downgrade was a fucking disaster!"

[@c.f9448]

@@operandassembler "fascist uprising" Take your meds schizo

[@angelnobody7137]

Imma take this thing with me till the grave man

[@hshocker98]

@@c.f9448 stop huffing that Copium, weirdo

[@theobserver480]

@@hshocker98 it just how big of a disappointment it was

[@leonthesleepy]

It originally looked like Dark Souls 3 but scaled down. Then they released the PS2 Dark Souls 2 flat lighting emulator version.

[@ABCDEF-ix1qf]

leonthesleepy Yeah by it runs smoother than any game I've ever played on my PC, where Dark souls 1 and3 run at 20 fps on my PC

[@SuperSpikewolf]

leonthesleepy but you forgot that ds2 came out in ps3 with A better framerate than ds3 on ps4.

[@biterness2323]

You can blame the consoles for that.They downgrade the graphics with every game to maintain a stable fps on consoles

[@firstname3255]

leonthesleepy I like the scaled down version more.

[@gr33nriver77]

ZOMBIE It's not the consoles fault, it's the developers who don't put it on PC 1st and downgrade it from there

[@danshiba1498]

Dark souls. The dark souls of video games

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

jethical b15 The media is the Dark Souls of Earth.

[@starfox300]

Dark Souls is basically the Dark Souls of the Dark Sous franchise.

[@tomascanevaro4292]

Dark souls is like Cuphead but in 3d

[@Axodus]

Cupdhead is like 2D Dark Souls

[@PolentaSDR]

dan c Darksouls, the Cuphead of videogames

[@Nomad524]

a dark souls 2 vid? did you forget to press upload for like 3 years? haha another awesomely depressing vid of what could have been

[@atlasprime6193]

Get ready for “Flames of Old”, a PC mod of Dark Souls 2 that will recreate the E3 showcase as well as improving it!

[@energize_r886]

Do you know the release day?

[@atlasprime6193]

Energize_r No one knows yet.

[@julianas.3352]

Dammit, I’m also finish with DS1 remastered and I don’t want to play DS2 with graphics like that

[@bender535]

@@julianas.3352 I think you'll get used to it just like i did

[@Kai-rc6zi]

@@julianas.3352 Imagine playing dark souls games for the graphics lol wtf?

[@Mick-hp4yg]

That original lighting looked amazing! The dark areas of the game would have been way scarier. Too bad even sotfs didn't deliver.

[@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi]

You could've delivered that yourself with SweetFX/Reshade to restore those lighting settings actually. Not your job but hey its a workaround that works well at least.

[@Mick-hp4yg]

@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi Wish I could have, but I'm not a PC player. That mod does look good though! I knew dsfix was a thing on the first game, but I didn't know one existed for DS2.

[@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi]

@@Mick-hp4yg Its not dsfix basically but simply a sweetfx/reshade preset that reverts the lighting to E3. Not fully but surely 90% closer to it~ and yeah thats why I love PC you can sort out problems yourself sometimes :3 Playing like that makes the areas feel so much better because you play them the way they were intended to do

[@Mick-hp4yg]

@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi Yeah, it's high time I get a PC. Last time I splurged I picked PS4 because of bloodborne, but I don't know if the demons souls remake is worth buying a PS5 for.

[@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi]

@@Mick-hp4yg I personally find it sad that they still go for such shady strategies to give people a reason to buy a console, I expected that to be over considering how much they praised the PS5s specs. I just dont get it why making an exclusive for no reason, I mean it would've not been hard for them to port bloodborne or Demon Souls to PC as they did before /= Its a real shame, I would've loved it to have played Bloodborne too x.x

[@atomskthepirateking2776]

the lighting in both is bad. Demo it's too dark and the final build it's too bright.

[@abyssalrayz9499]

Atomsk ThePirateKing agreed

[@bygl3251]

+Atomsk ThePirateKing I would agree, but dark souls 2 was supposed to add the "torch" mechanic. Therefor I think the "demo" version is better as more areas = more usage of the torch.. Not like im saying youre wrong, its just an opinion thing!

[@shenanigansfromheaven9178]

Niggas u blind final looks like PS2 emulator first looks like Bob vegana

[@Nutt_lemmings]

i dont think u ever played any ps2 games also pretty sure this guy just has his brightness too high

[@jeremyrodriguez1989]

Atomsk ThePirateKing agreed

[@HereIsZane]

DS2 final edition textures + DS2 trailer lighting would be incredible. I've always found DS2 lighting bland, it looks like a game made on Unity 2.5 sometimes

[@Milkyoid]

scholar of the first sin has both

[@anonecki]

Before release: a Dark Souls game After release: mat_fullbright 1

[@beetheimmortal]

underrated comment

[@k54maclosky97]

@@beetheimmortal ay but is still have souls in it heart atleast it not platstic souls remastered

[@beetheimmortal]

@@k54maclosky97 Indeed

[@TheHumanoverrated]

Downgrade > Sell game > Upgrade > Sell game. That how you sell 1 game 2 times to baka gaijins.

[@inkz34]

The upgrade isn't that good

[@alvinameragathium1977]

And "buta", ironically and randomly enough, is Hungarian for "stupid".

[@1un4cy]

What's the process on Skyrim

[@dennisr6718]

1un4cy sell the game in 2003 > re-sell the game in 2008 > re-sell the game in 2011 > remaster the game in 2017

[@atomsmasher703]

Upgrade slightly*

As good as the dynamic lighting is, being required to use a torch in half of the game would be annoying as hell, especially with a two handed build.

[@Limerain]

@Benghazi gaming Its annoying

[@ExterminationVideos]

It's called Dark Souls for a reason. Also darkness in a compressed stream always looks harsher.

[@Krone0k]

@@ExterminationVideos yeah but Dark souls would have to sacrifice one playstyle

[@baronnashor158]

Casuls.. You realize you are one of the reasons they changed the lightning? People cried in the testing, they are afraid of the dark , and being at a disadvantage and forced to get even gooder and adapt to a situation affecting the person behind the screen is annoying for some people that want it easy. I like the dark , it adds a whole new dimension to the gameplay and force you to be even more careful instead of just rushing everything and going pass the mobs and challenges like some pussy likes to do..Ofc in those situation you want to see , nobody likes not seeing, we are like that in real life..When want the informations , we dont like unkown..WE dont like the dark..its incomfortable even in games , as if it is constantly missing something or constantly at a disadvantage. But when you start to see it from a gameplay perspective , and part of the game and challenge , instead of your own little desire , its actually enjoyable. See difficulties in game are a strange thing. We dont want it to be difficult , we like to succed. but not enough difficulty while we succed everytime , doesnt gives us that certain feeling of accomplishment.. ,Even if the game can make us rage , its actually because of that , that we likes it so much. Being forced to go through what we dont want to go through. Being forced into the uncomfortable , and getting out of that byu desire to be better is almost what characterise the darksouls special feeling. Deepdown.

[@cynicalgold9992]

@@baronnashor158 dude, stop lying lmao. They changed the lighting because the engine couldnt handle it, not because of "casuals". Stop spreading misinformation to try to cover for this mess of a game (i like the game btw, but its a poorly designed mess)

[@MyName-df7li]

Dark Souls 2 is the dark souls of the dark souls genre

[@maynardsvoice]

On what grounds?

[@McMarioG]

coffee

[@HuNightmareable]

*Dark souls 2 is the Bloodbourne of the dark souls genre

[@porkeywings]

Cody Grounds Cause it's tough as nails boi

[@maxenfelter]

I can't disagree with this.

[@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT]

The original lighting is so much better. My biggest problem with the full release is that everything looks flat.

[@wulf2863]

dark souls 2 on 2017? Damn, this comparison was right on time for release.

[@TheMrDemonized]

Wulfgraar nobody noticed

[@Cassius40k]

I am definitely second-guessing my preorder now.

[@fnd2583]

They should compare DS2 lighting vs DS3 lighting to see you can downgrade your game between sequels

[@fnd2583]

@Ldybug Good lighting would be something like the Metro series, DS lighting is average at best from the tech available.

[@roxilntiger8347]

Dark Souls 2 prepare to lie edition

[@fnd2583]

DS3 didn't lie when they downgraded their lighting to DS1 level and people slurp it up. Why try to improve things if people will look at you with more critical eyes?

[@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466]

@@fnd2583 Really, they downgraded DS3? Well, Im sure it wasn't pathetic, like DS2 since I didn't notice a difference between the trailers and the game.

[@fnd2583]

@@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 They ditched a major feature from Dark Souls 2 like dynamic lights from torchs, you would notice it if you took the time to compare the graphics and features between sequels (as it should be, trailers and previews are bs propaganda as far back in early 2000, that's why i rarely watch them)

[@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466]

@@fnd2583 Dynamic lightning? In DS2? Torches? Even in the "darkest" locations in the game like the Gultch torches weren't necessary. And the only deceptive trailers I've come across are Ubisoft trailers (which I don't gave a damn about since I don't buy those) and Dark Souls 2. (This one did hurt)

[@fnd2583]

@@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 Torches where useful in some places(not much tho', blame the level designers but the potential was there), but it's more about graphical features (which is the main point off all the people complaints in regards to DS2). Torches and a lot of light sources in DS3 doesn't cast shadows like DS2 does(the exception is some static bonfires), there is even a dumb feature of stripping the main character of his own shadow if he is hollow(good job making the game uglier). I don't care that much about trailers, but sequels stripping good features from their predecessors pisses me off much more.

[@SkyNinja759]

It looks like it was just lighting effects that made the game look like shit. From can try to defend themselves by saying it made the game "unplayable" but it would have made torches actually useful along with the challenge and atmosphere skyrocket. Maybe they went overboard in the demo but they butchered it so much it looks like there's no lighting at all.

[@SolarFlarehorse]

Just looking at the first area they showed off I immediately saw why they gave you a torch off the bat. To bad that we never got to FUCKING USE IT. Even in some of the darkest areas of the game, I never found myself needing to use a torch like I did when I was in TOTG. It's sad that just the lighting alone would've made this game look so much prettier.

[@FallensAnger]

yeah what I thougth has well, hopefully you can activate the old lighting or mod it so it has the same feeling

[@WilleWalla02]

SkyNinja759 The textures are way shittier too.

[@SuperAvocadoo]

Wow, cannot use the torch now. What a big deal... Don`t confuse challenge with poor gameplay mechanics. You think people would have fun fighting against enemies which you can`t see where their attacks are coming from or where you can run to evade them? What about suddenly dying by an attack or enemy you didn`t see? Sure, the game had a downgrade, but the gameplay improved. You could argue they could make good graphics without the super dark contrast, but that`s unrelated to the comparison and intention of this video. Good graphics don`t equal good gameplay. For a better understanding of this, go watch videogamedunkey`s video called "Bad Graphics".

[@gael9181]

fuck you fanboy

[@rashidhumine]

Dark Souls 2 vs Bright Souls 2.

[@thespacewestern030]

"Unplayable before downgrade" I refuse to believe that.

[@randomguy6679]

Just a Wimpod why?

[@teehundeart]

i mean look at it. it's almost pitch black. you'd need a torch all the time, not allowing you to utilize your left hand gear. Especially since your torch won't light up automatically. you need a bonfire to light it. also performance

[@Sumea_Saukko]

Its completely unplayable now. Dark Souls 1 was legendary game and this is trash.

[@thvvgu2054]

Jumal, How was it unplayable? It was still good and most people would agree with that, meanwhile no one went back to Dark Souls 1. They're either playing 3 or Bloodborne, mainly because the remaster of 1 reminded people it was nostalgia blinding them to the game's shitty pvp and dated four directional dodging and while still a good game too, the DkS1 remaster was dead after two months. Best Souls game has been Bloodborne. It took all the best from each one and perfected the mechanics.

[@Sumea_Saukko]

Thv Vgu It sucks there's no other way to explain it. Also you're wrong many people would agree that DS1 is better than DS2 it said to be one of the best games ever made by many critics and i agree. So yeah might be hard to follow up a game after that but it didn't completely suck PVP was good, but it was definetly a downgrade and the weakest in the series.

[@51Archives]

Darksouls? More like Lightsouls

[@davidgomezdeossa6448]

BeerMeJesus this comment is like the whole video but in words

[@brackonstudios]

Dark Souls? More like, Cheery Spirits.

[@_itchweed]

beer me jesus

[@QuentinofVirginia]

People to this day still deny that there was a downgrade in Dark Souls 2.

[@Green.n.Purple]

And they're doing it in these very comment sections. Dark Souls fanboys are right up there with Blizzdrones when it comes to delusion.

[@sketchywest1176]

It's almost like aesthetic is a completely subjective topic that there is no right answer to.

[@jamief123]

Breh. Are you serious? The left objectively looks way fucking better. It has more advanced effects and better atmosphere. You can clearly see that the game was built around the darkness, but had to be downgraded last minute at 2:30 when the guy goes to pick up the torch. The torch is absolutely useless in the final version because the game is missing lighting effects.

[@gracecalis5421]

Sketchy West117 Its not subjective because both iterations are trying to go for the same design philosophy. Its just that the left one achieved that visual philosophy much better. If we were discussing between two different styles of design in a game then yes, its subjective. But this video showcases texture resolution, polygons, pixel shading, lighting, geometry, etc. All of which are technical. ALL OF WHICH ARE QUANTITATIVE. Thus, its objective.

[@hyperleap4876]

I mean they upgraded nearly as much as they downgraded.

[@LordOfLemon]

So, having seen some of the dev notes in early versions of the game, here's my theory as to what happened: For a while, the plan was to make Dark Souls 2 a game that depends on torch management and light for its atmosphere and scares. Somewhere during the development process, they probably found that this light management and stumbling in the dark doesn't work as well as they expected. Because of this, they had to brighten everything up, but since all the assets were designed for the darkness, the game ended up looking washed out. On top of this, they were on a tight schedule, so they couldn't properly fix this.

[@Average_K]

That’s a brilliant observation! It would have been interesting to see how the game turned out if they stuck with that idea.

[@angelguzman477]

@Я не знаю как говорить по-русски a few rooms?🤔

[@anonforyou]

For a game that has "dark" in the title, is very bright hahaha

[@minifridge337]

This video is the cuphead of dark souls

[@hardcastle522]

xD

[@nicolasriveros943]

Minifridge this comment Is The Dark Souls of Crash Bandicoots

[@jpxyUA]

Hilarious and original

[@kijinseija727]

Minifridge wtf is cuphead

[@thezucc575]

Minifridge ok this is weird I seem to see you in every comment section of EVERY video I watch so what is going on here

[@Darnefergitu]

Dark Souls 2 is the Dark Souls of action games

[@lynkios]

Darnefergitu Dark Souls 2 is the Dark Souls of Dark Souls games

[@likescoob9639]

Go to dollarshaveclub.com/official for the dark souls of shaving products

[@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi]

Dark Souls 2 is the last proper Souls game. Use SweetFX and you fixed the downgrade, apart from that its outstanding in every aspect mostly. Stuff that Dark Souls 3 can't touch due to it being entirely broken by mechanics sadly. Dark Souls 2 had so much more details and build variety while Dark Souls 3 dont has any of it anymore and has overall way less content with DLCs that are too short, overpriced and that are breaking the game even more, the last DLC in particular. Adding new weapons that straight up outclass anyother, 10/10

[@woodgecko106]

soundcloud.com/cam_bia

[@GideonIon8]

Incorrect. Demon's Souls is the Dark Souls of action games.

[@saymyname2618]

Im happy that i never saw any of these trailers or gameplay footage before playing it, so i wasnt dissapointed. Im watching this 1 year AFTER i already beated the game just because i found it randomly on KZbin.

[@LeoJay]

preorder cancelled.

[@Tomato-lr2yu]

2 l8 m8

[@deathmetalhell]

sick

[@johnnyblaze9874]

Nice meme

[@sneaky4436]

lmfao fr 2 l8

[@valentinosimic2917]

Pf

[@point-bl4nk]

it's like at some point they refused to give this game an art-style.

[@Chaosian]

Holy shit. At one point in time this game looked good.

[@ShinNessTen]

Oh man, fancy seeing you here lmao.

[@Chaosian]

Touche.

[@moiseman]

kinda looks like shit on both versions tbh

[@how2risen401]

the graphics are better on the released version, only the light effects were much better

[@duhotatoday3277]

Chaosian01 released version looked way better 10:28

[@Mornepin]

"Dark Souls 2 Plastic Edition" as many said before

[@irvancrocs1753]

wtf, the gameplay of this game is just like dark souls..

[@ene8415]

irvanCrocs I mean it's dark souls, right?

[@jurassic420]

Ernest Mil what if its just a mod for cuphead?

[@ak47freddy]

All From Software games are the same

[@RedMushroomPanda]

Looks like a Minecraft ripoff to me :/

[@irvancrocs1753]

*just like dark souls* get it??

[@vtastek]

Shadows removed from almost all lights. Self shadowing gone. Lots of clutter is also removed. Extra ambient could be gameplay related, to add visibility. All in all, advertise your game with great graphics for a vertical slice, deceive consumers. Lighting was never in, clutter wasn't removed, but added specially for this vertical slice.

[@midnitestate]

vtastek its a shame since this series already had a big fan base they didn’t need to make something to drag more people in and then lie to the entire group...im sure if they just showed something of the right it would have been fine but this isn’t the first ( and probably not the last) time this kind of thing has happened

[@TarsoJahnRibeiro]

Watchdogs is the Dark Souls 2 of downgrades

[@breakerboy365]

im dead

[@loneswordsman295]

Execpt Watchdogs' downgrade was way worse.

[@dashsoulsthehornyone9125]

Lmao!

[@CL-jq1xs]

except watchdog downgrade is huge as hell and this seems like lighting is the main reason it looks like a downgrade.... look at 4:51 man do the old version look crappy

[@inslayer5465]

The final game looks like someone turned on fullbright.

[@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi]

Thats why you have to use Reshade/SweetFX to remove that, works very well then and makes the areas useful again like torches are a must have

[@jpeciv]

I remember how disapointing this game was when it came out, was harder than demon's souls and DS1, graphics looked outdated. then has weird glowing to everything way too bright overall ugly

[@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi]

@@jpeciv It sucks because gameplay-wise its the best and most content rich Dark Souls we ever had with an amazing balance but the downgrade they did before release was just terrible. Like you said, its all too bright and every area looses its charm. There is still a fix for PC and like that its quite good and absolutely my favorite and still the best but you also always feel the lost potencial

[@MarkHogan994]

@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi It has the most content because they focused on quantity over quality. In terms of boss design, level design, and combat, it's easily the worst game of the entire series. Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1 & 3, Bloodborne, and Sekiro are all far superior in these aspects. The only thing DS2 combat has going for it is PVP and power stance. But in terms of regular PVE combat, it's easily the weakest.

[@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi]

@@MarkHogan994 No they didn't. It is the opposite, what you talk doesn't make sense. It is combat-wise the absolute best be it PVP or PVE but the areas feel shallow in PVE which you can luckily fix with Reshade but the mechanics and the sheer content of weapons, armor and spells are there along with stats to make you stand out. It is by far the most QUALITY and detailed Dark Souls up to date by mechanics and content. Boss battles aren't great though for the most part indeed but to call it the worst of the entire series is PLAIN wrong and absolutely retarded just for that. They aren't great but it doesn't make the game bad because enough other things are good. If you think Bloodborne is superior look at DS3, its the worst contentless trash you can get with no mechanics because they put bloodborne in it. Apart from that Bloodborne and Sekiro are their own things and designed for being their own things which works great. If you wanna call the for the worst Dark Souls go for 3. Its terrible in every aspect as it has no mechanics at all and PVP is unplayable while PVE is just a R1 spamm. Wowie. It shows how you have absolutely no clue to call the combat in DS2 bad while its the best and most detailed in the series with its mechancis while DS3 is just spamm R1.

[@RedHairdo]

Wow, the graphics used to almost look like Demon's Souls and Bloodborne good.

[@lucasv5715]

RedHairdo That dark tone/shader was really good tho.

[@Meta9871]

Have you played the game, if I had to play with a shader that intensive I'd probably throw up

[@MarcoBMark-rt6ke]

It looked like an actual abandoned fort,memory of a now long finished war that left many scars....but what we got was...I dunno...it feels like it has no personality

[@ClintonomoBay]

I hope there's going to be a Nintendo World Championship 2017 compilation soon, CrowBCat! Love your videos

[@arthurdurham]

I come back here time to time. I get why they changed it as the left has low res textures and needs a lot of blur to compensate for the more atmospheric lighting and art direction. The console hardware just couldn't handle what they wanted to have without a lot of compromises, esp while maintaining a higher frame rate than DS1. I don't feel like this was a lie or a lack of programming ability, as they really did seem to want to make the original version but it just wouldn't work for the target markets. The 7th gen was often plagued with dev ambition being too high for what the 360 and PS3 could handle (unless they were first party studios). Maybe if this was a PC exclusive it could have worked. But now they could make this with modern hardware, be awesome to see the original concept on tech that can handle it.

[@LuxasVTUBER]

I think they're lying.

[@calvin4912]

what makes you think that

[@supremebuffalo6322]

maybe the fact that there is a graphical difference between the 2 versions of footage? can you not see it? +Childish Calvino

[@beratdemir7480]

they're definitely lying. he said in the video about graphic upgrade from ds1 which completely untrue

[@thebadwolf3088]

Med jed pfft, yeah... surely...

[@fulgurwinterx1154]

I remember back then that they promised that the game was going to have next-gen graphics. I mean don't get me wrong, i'm sure gameplay is much more important than having just prettier graphics. However, if you're developer and if you make a promise to the fans, then you can't break it. Just look at what happened to Mighty No. 9.

[@jvictor3048]

Dark Souls II is the Demon's Souls of Cuphead of video games.

[@wowgoodjob3504]

J Victor comparing Dark Souls difficulty to Cuphead is pretty retarded

[@JustLunarr]

Shhh just let him him keep that mentality....

[@Robbyx1000th]

J Victor nice profile pic!!! Don't see enough of them

[@morsonnn]

I see that Brand New avatar.

[@rudestdudest826]

What?

[@mettalx1]

5:00 The older version looks much better. The lightning actually blends with the room and creates this nice atmosphere that I just love in the first game. The final version is like here's a flat overlay with no depth over everything and call it a day. It looks UGLY at moments tbh, so I don't understand the design decision.. If a game is too dark we usually turn up the brightness and that's it... so it's simply a lost opportunity to make the game more immersive. This game is simply vanilla TOO BRIGHT!

[@ryanmehaffey9066]

You and I must of been watching a different video. I saw a blocky, ill-defined room with a lighting engine that made things so dark that I would have always had to carry a torch, making two handing weapons a pain in the ass.

[@yeetusdeletus9]

@@ryanmehaffey9066 yeah basically. The demo actually had shadows but it was way too dark. The final product looked like they set contrast to 0 so it's too flat looking. But then again, if a DS game doesnt looked outdated when it comes out, its not a real DS game

[@polski8bit]

@@yeetusdeletus9 DS3 was one of the better looking games when it came out tho. Is it not a real DS3 game?

[@Leom-tg6qs]

@@polski8bit no it's not

[@thomas-zs2jm]

man whoever spent their time on the lighting must've been so disappointed to see how much of a downgrade it was in the final release

[@geebeepman]

If they do a remaster of ds2 that actually looks like the gameplay reveal(or even improve upon it), I'd buy it immediately on release.

[@ignsucks1292]

Tiredofdumbfuks It's gonna be a big mess for him to fix

[@senpaikaroo]

But then it would be Scholar of The Second Sin

[@virtuallyperfect7973]

Imagine trusting ds2 devs for anything

[@iloveyoushima]

Even with and animation lock? Unfair deaths? Poor mechanics? Ok then.

[@antonironstag5085]

Demons Souls: dark and spooky Dark Souls: dark and spooky Dark Souls 3: dark and spooky Bloodborne: dark and spooky Dark Souls 2: bright and plastic

[@antonironstag5085]

@@dopples9004 road of sacrifices? Farron keep? Irithyll? Ringed city?

[@antonironstag5085]

@οὐτόπος ive played them all and I think ds2 is the weakest because it has no atmosphere. If not for the pvp it would be a crap game. Thats my opinion

[@cynicalgold9992]

@οὐτόπος you realize you just said ds2 is better than ds3 because ds3 has easy bosses, right? Ds2 has pathetic bosses compared to ds3

[@Ginormousbeans]

@οὐτόπος Ds2 has the least interesting bosses of any souls game. 90% of them are just a humanoid with a sword or something

[@F1rstNameLastName]

οὐτόπος ds2 bosses are 40% ganks, if you think ds3 is repetitive, how about dumping 5/10/15/20 of an enemy found in the area before the boss room or a new but multiplied enemy and calling that a boss? Because that's dark souls 2. The singular humanoid bosses like pursurer, mirror knight, fume knight, even smelter demon all had boring attacks that were too similar to each other. Hell even Burnt Ivory King and Sir Alonne had very generic movesets as well.

[@docemitbrown4466]

I hate it when game developers Promise you good shit, And they release the final version in the form of diarrhea

[@UwU-us7dt]

I don't think they enjoy it either.

[@toozigooti]

Aw... DS2 isn't THAT bad. I enjoyed it, but that's just me.

[@drakatheisendrachen1104]

@Galactic Magic Dark Souls 2 isn't bad, its just worse than the other two, still a treasured souls game! Though I would LOVE if someday they gave us a version with the better graphics, and maybe a removal of soul memory

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@@toozigooti You need to watch some MauLer my friend. I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed it, but it IS definitely that bad.

[@kazukixivv9252]

i find it good though.

[@_ArsNova]

The Dark Souls 2 graphical downgrade was very much foreshadowing the Dark Souls "remastered" graphical downgrade.

[@ThomasTheLuckyGamer]

Me: Wow this sequel looks amazing *boots up game* *vomits*

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

ThomasTheLuckyGamer lols

[@dropdown64]

Why remind me of this? My scar in my heart is still not healed fully from this.

[@DammitSinged]

Crowtent Cop - Dark Souls 2

[@The_Viktor_Reznov]

DammitSinged What the fuck is a crowent?

[@WWJimbo]

I think Crowtent Cop would be better.

[@NinjaShadow47]

reference to a youtube series "content cop"

[@Ikarusu]

Shadow47 DID YOU JUST EXPLAIN THE MEMEEEE

[@wartownie]

normie!!!!! reeeee!!!!!!

[@julienlimas6068]

The demo was perfect, the lighting the huds the glows everything