Dark Souls 2 downgrade full comparison

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Crowbcat

Crowbcat

6 жыл бұрын

A more precise and complete comparison between the final game and the 2013 gameplay reveal.
Reproducing the same camera angles is a very tedious task because of the broken deadzones from the PC port ( • Dark Souls 2 Gamepad C... ). Recorded on max settings. 720p because it was the quality of the showcase. Closeups: imgur.com/a/S9R7W
Gameplay reveal: • Dark Souls 2 - Gamepla...

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@ymfah
@ymfah 6 жыл бұрын
This hurts more than I can imagine
@ChunLo21
@ChunLo21 6 жыл бұрын
"Perhaps you've seen it, maybe in a dream, a murky forgotten land"
@DeadKraken
@DeadKraken 6 жыл бұрын
I feel ya bro. Dark Souls 2 was the first(and only) pre-order I have ever got in my life. Nothing tops that sense of absolute despair I had when I saw the graphics and that shitty level design for the first time....... ;_;
@Juunasd
@Juunasd 6 жыл бұрын
Than*
@overfeen
@overfeen 6 жыл бұрын
Hey i watch your videos
@johnalkhas9643
@johnalkhas9643 6 жыл бұрын
LadyKraken Would you really rather have amazing graphics or good game performance?
@will_caruso_987
@will_caruso_987 6 жыл бұрын
It looks better and worse at the same time
@meelans6126
@meelans6126 6 жыл бұрын
Preview - motion blur Blur all round Lighting and shadow FX Final product - No ambience Barely any lighting Less blur Higher fidelity of textures/higher resolution
@Chronologger
@Chronologger 6 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't, it just looks worse.
@kaiewaii
@kaiewaii 6 жыл бұрын
its brighter and more clear to see where your going. i do agree it looks worse but from a game play perspective i prefer the right.
@FloppyDisk893
@FloppyDisk893 6 жыл бұрын
It does, I want a mixture of both
@corruptor5150
@corruptor5150 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same.
@suedonnym
@suedonnym 2 жыл бұрын
A subtle detail I really love about the original is that when you light the bonfire its light then reveals the statue of the embracing woman. What an awesome way to reinforce that bonfires are the sparks of comfort and safety in the 'dark' of this world. Shame it got cut.
@ash_1419
@ash_1419 2 жыл бұрын
You can do that in the game...just use a sweetfx mod
@Jmoney10000
@Jmoney10000 2 жыл бұрын
@@ash_1419 they actually banned people in the early days for using any type of shader mod. Stupid ass FromSoftware
@LSK2K
@LSK2K 2 жыл бұрын
@@ash_1419 sweetfx doesn't add dynamic lighting and shadowing. It's just a glorified filter
@SUNNYDINTHEREAL
@SUNNYDINTHEREAL 11 ай бұрын
I think they should remove all mentions of women
@eepupm1
@eepupm1 9 ай бұрын
honestly, this entire situation feels like a sonic unleashed situation that game looked way ahead of its time and they went for it, unfortunately it played like shit in a lot of areas and later sonic games made the graphics worse for playability ds2 had a similar fate except they never released the super good graphics.
@HankGreenburg
@HankGreenburg 4 жыл бұрын
The old one clearly had worse "graphical quality" (as in texture resolution, detail, etc), but it had much better and more fitting lighting, shading, atmosphere, and a more cohesive model style. The update just makes it look like an out of place asset flip game.
@coryhenshaw8487
@coryhenshaw8487 4 жыл бұрын
not even true, look at the giant sword at 5:00 the old quality is way better
@creepguys2293
@creepguys2293 4 жыл бұрын
Urm... i think its because the old one was still in beta?
@casdf7
@casdf7 4 жыл бұрын
the lighting was definetely better, not just artistically. However the rest was worse. I think they could not pull off that lighting on the old consoles
@wesleyscott1633
@wesleyscott1633 4 жыл бұрын
Noze I think they did it to be more fair. It’d be pretty bs if half the time you had to sacrifice a shield for a torch. It’d like if Tomb of the Giants was in multiple different areas. And they knew everyone hated that area, and likely why they made the new lighting more simple and fair
@Hakeens
@Hakeens 4 жыл бұрын
The old one had that Dark souls 1 look
@videogamesTSH
@videogamesTSH 5 жыл бұрын
Makes you realise how important lighting is
@Zamalshkay
@Zamalshkay 4 жыл бұрын
yep u can make as high quality assets as u can but if lighting and shadowing isnt proper on scene this shit will look like 80s game
@gustavo1h3
@gustavo1h3 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's why despite all the bs, I love ffxiii
@Jequetepeq
@Jequetepeq 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why a lot of people use minecraft shaders.
@arthurhutchinson2755
@arthurhutchinson2755 3 жыл бұрын
Lighting plays a huge factor. Just look at the first FEAR and Doom 3... Without lighting, the two games would look like absolutely dog shit smeared on a bathroom stall's wall.
@firuzmajid4780
@firuzmajid4780 3 жыл бұрын
I know that they removed the lightning because of performance issues, and the absence of Miyazaki as the director.
@BubbleDouble
@BubbleDouble 6 жыл бұрын
The downgraded one looks like your game will look after following those boost FPS guides.
@cacomeat7385
@cacomeat7385 6 жыл бұрын
Bubble Double for real
@nicolasriveros943
@nicolasriveros943 6 жыл бұрын
Bubble Double and actually that's The reason for it was downgraded in The first place. Edit: i wonder if Low Spec Gamer worked with From Software (?
@Odinsday
@Odinsday 6 жыл бұрын
The original demo ran like shit so they had to follow that FPS boost guide you talked about.
@antond12312
@antond12312 6 жыл бұрын
It still won't run well because fromsoft can't make good pc ports.
@nicolasriveros943
@nicolasriveros943 6 жыл бұрын
Butter Butt actually The port for DS 2 Is pretty good, i can Run it my laptop with Intel graphics 4000 at 40 fps (in low qualtity sure) and without need of some External mod like ds fix. Now The port for DS 1 and 3 on The other Hand...
@aimalkhan5028
@aimalkhan5028 Жыл бұрын
Goes to show how lighting is as crucial as graphical quality
@lelandrb
@lelandrb 7 ай бұрын
huge reason why the bluepoint demon souls remake looks so good. the lighting improvement is incredible
@420malbania4
@420malbania4 7 ай бұрын
@lelandrb Bluepoint ballsed the Demon's Souls lighting up much more than it improved it. Took away a lot of the fantasy lighting in favor of realism in more cases than improvement. In my opinion the best way to play Demon's Souls is on RPCS3 with the 60 fps patch and a simple resolution upscale.
@lelandrb
@lelandrb 7 ай бұрын
@@420malbania4 if by "fantasy lighting" you mean "no lighting". pretty much every single from software, especially elden ring, has flat, neutral lighting. sometimes bright, sometimes dark. no surprise that adding lighting makes it more realistic
@lelandrb
@lelandrb 7 ай бұрын
​@@420malbania4 the tower of latria is a great example. the prison is just drab yellow and green in the original, which is randomly cast from the walls, lol. the remake has the green be emitted by flickering, sinister torches. way more atmospheric
@soulcall4284
@soulcall4284 2 ай бұрын
@@lelandrb Yeah I can't stand the lighting in ER most of the time. There is no bloom. Funnily enough, ER has a lot of that DS2 look to it. DS2 with just lightingengine and 4k textures looks really good though. Honestly ER graphics are a step backwards. Bluepoint not even being a developer of the original game, still has the most next gen looking Souls game, and by extension, Fromsoft game.
@paulrafalo1591
@paulrafalo1591 3 жыл бұрын
Your dedication to recreating the demo as closely as possible is the most impressive part of this video. I can’t imagine how long that took and I thank you for it cus the side-by-side view is super effective
@arkos3470
@arkos3470 5 жыл бұрын
seems like they removed Dark from Dark souls
@lucasmontero1456
@lucasmontero1456 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, my favourite game franchise.....Souls
@BigJunnySoprano69
@BigJunnySoprano69 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas Montero Actually by removing all the dark in the game they removed all the heart and SOUL the game has so now it’s just called... Man? Sword Man?
@LonesomeKrow
@LonesomeKrow 3 жыл бұрын
The only true “Souls” title
@sk8mysterion
@sk8mysterion 3 жыл бұрын
How true
@dddmemaybe
@dddmemaybe 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasmontero1456 And if you play offline it's the new movie: Soul.
@alexm7398
@alexm7398 6 жыл бұрын
I remember when they said the Torch was going to actually be useful because the map would have good dynamic lightning. It was used in like the one room you find it...then never again lmao.
@Jashua-
@Jashua- 6 жыл бұрын
Raider2k not really. The only time you will use it is in the boss fight to lock on and that's it. The area resets and so do the torches which makes them useless.
@promant6458
@promant6458 6 жыл бұрын
Raider2k Lost Sinner
@Deathenvyify
@Deathenvyify 6 жыл бұрын
Promant something tells me you never found the key that lets you light up oil ducts on both sides outside the bosses room. It turns the lights on in there so you dont have to waste room in your inv with a torch
@promant6458
@promant6458 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Franco Of course I found that key. Where did you get that idea from? You asked which boss, I just answered. You can lock on the Sinner from further distance if you have torch, but you can use it (the torch, not Sinner ;) )to light up lamps aswell, what pretty works the same.
@pabsensi
@pabsensi 6 жыл бұрын
Xcho you do though. Many enemies react to fire and you need it to light several darker areas. At least in SotFS.
@jajr4838
@jajr4838 4 жыл бұрын
9:38 Call me crazy but that's the castle where princess Fiona was kept: In a cliff, connected to the land only by a rope bridge and custodied by a red dragon.
@zaishijunior9455
@zaishijunior9455 4 жыл бұрын
lol good comment
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 4 жыл бұрын
Let's now talk about the superior game: Shrek Super Slam.
@mayhare9754
@mayhare9754 4 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck, you're absolutely right
@GalaxiusPilgrim
@GalaxiusPilgrim 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't even look remotely like it
@JordyLaFordge
@JordyLaFordge 4 жыл бұрын
Good call 👍
@ketamineaddict5659
@ketamineaddict5659 4 жыл бұрын
After the Demon’s Souls remake let’s go back and fix Dark Souls 2
@soxer8799
@soxer8799 4 жыл бұрын
This needs more likes
@ketamineaddict5659
@ketamineaddict5659 4 жыл бұрын
Soxer lol
@dickheadrecs
@dickheadrecs 4 жыл бұрын
i still want to play the game on the left
@onewontdo
@onewontdo 4 жыл бұрын
Not really possible.
@ketamineaddict5659
@ketamineaddict5659 3 жыл бұрын
Shane everything does
@sownheard
@sownheard 6 жыл бұрын
Dark souls 2 looks so friendly compared to the demo
@kyotheman69
@kyotheman69 6 жыл бұрын
final product is to light hearted, to many lit areas
@tyquanfleming8690
@tyquanfleming8690 6 жыл бұрын
Sownheard mgp
@TA-ew9bi
@TA-ew9bi 6 жыл бұрын
Dark souls 2 is an arcade game
@StratmanJerry
@StratmanJerry 6 жыл бұрын
I gotta put on sunglasses every time I go to majula or iron keep. Fucks sake From
@ievgeniiromenskyi3375
@ievgeniiromenskyi3375 6 жыл бұрын
well it wasn't friendly to me first time I've played it
@pleasesubscribedad
@pleasesubscribedad 6 жыл бұрын
This is truly the Dark Souls of graphical downgrades.
@legobricknator
@legobricknator 6 жыл бұрын
Everything is insipired by dark souls if you look hard enough.
@pleasesubscribedad
@pleasesubscribedad 6 жыл бұрын
Karmic Lucke “if you look hard enough you are dark souls” - IGN
@Dfrosty1987
@Dfrosty1987 6 жыл бұрын
lmao good one
@vitorcordeiro5070
@vitorcordeiro5070 6 жыл бұрын
This is the Dark Souls of the comments
@backgroundcharacter4099
@backgroundcharacter4099 6 жыл бұрын
This is truly The Dark Souls of reviews
@Nosttromo
@Nosttromo 4 жыл бұрын
crowbcat copies the movement of the original one so flawlessly that when he cuts from his video to the demo, it seems like the same thing
@buster38011
@buster38011 3 жыл бұрын
How do we know crowbcat isn’t a girl? Might not be a dude...might not even be human
@yeluvgod
@yeluvgod 2 жыл бұрын
🤯
@crispychicken2003
@crispychicken2003 3 жыл бұрын
The final release definitely has a lot of improvements but they took a lot of steps back with the lighting and overall feel of the game. The preview version would’ve been such a blast and scary experience. Honestly if they would’ve just kept the lighting the same.
@edgelord121
@edgelord121 2 жыл бұрын
It was probably to optimize its performance. I remember this game ran smooth af
@grayhunterx352
@grayhunterx352 Жыл бұрын
Sadly the game came out for the ps3 when the ps4 was already out, while most of the studio was working on an actual ps4 exclusive game. they didn't want to deliver laggy game again and had to remove all of the lighting system in the process, They could've revived it fot sotfs but didn't bothered to.
@gramplegust5115
@gramplegust5115 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know what's worse: The fact that they released the game without telling anyone about the downgrade, or that they decided it was a good idea to just re-release the exact same downgraded game on the newer systems without putting any effort into making it look as it was originally intended.
@Bloodhurl67
@Bloodhurl67 6 жыл бұрын
GloryToStan Well they could have upgraded it in the new gen systems but NOOOO...
@nathaniel106
@nathaniel106 6 жыл бұрын
I imagine it's hard to take assets from a gameplay reveal and use them to make an upgraded version of a game you've already made with different assets. Seriously though, there is so much more to doing that that it's absurd
@ajsingh4545
@ajsingh4545 6 жыл бұрын
I rather have the later version with 60 FPS than the E3 version at 25-30 FPS on current gen consoles. I think they made a wise decision.
@Bloodhurl67
@Bloodhurl67 6 жыл бұрын
AJ Singh I don't give two shits about fps when it comes to third person. I don't think they've made a good decision at all.
@Bloodhurl67
@Bloodhurl67 6 жыл бұрын
ak so K
@PacdemonStudios1
@PacdemonStudios1 6 жыл бұрын
The bland, flat look of DS2 is the greatest example of the importance of lighting.
@fnd2583
@fnd2583 6 жыл бұрын
Nah. People didn't care that DS3 downgraded their lighting to DS1 levels
@wallacesousuke1433
@wallacesousuke1433 6 жыл бұрын
Huge Hombre lighting doesn't matter in the slightest, in fact, the pre-release version looks unplayable
@thefryguy9202
@thefryguy9202 5 жыл бұрын
@@wallacesousuke1433 Lighting in games matters a lot, the fuck are you smoking mate? Its creates atmosphere and depth within the environment, models, and textures. Its the difference between the game looking flat like the original comment said and it actually looking good. The two different versions of the game look like night and day.
@MercurialIris
@MercurialIris 5 жыл бұрын
Willy et scientia your opinion is bad.
@theprocrastinator6813
@theprocrastinator6813 5 жыл бұрын
Twilight princes for the GameCube had better lighting, until it was washed out in the wii u version. Hope Skyward sword doesn't get the same treatment
@RyderPlatinumWarpstar
@RyderPlatinumWarpstar 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like in some areas of the final game, it looks fantastic visually, my biggest example being the Looking Glass Knight and Majula. Other areas just look way too dull without the shading.
@Jmoney10000
@Jmoney10000 2 жыл бұрын
Facts. Dark Souls 2 just seems way to bright and dark at some times. It would’ve have been really cool to see realistic lighting in the game. I bet they removed that feature because they thought it would piss off a lot of casuals.
@taroken8846
@taroken8846 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jmoney10000 pretty good for an excuse but no the dude here lied with a straight face for reasons that he knows , probably orders from the previous director who by the way is now replaced by the better man .
@armando1is1great
@armando1is1great Жыл бұрын
@@taroken8846 What is shown is a genuine build of DS2 running. Its just that the Ps3 and 360 would never be able to handle the lighting they initially showed off.
@edimarrodrigrove3377
@edimarrodrigrove3377 Жыл бұрын
@@armando1is1great No, it could. The beta version (2013) of Dark Souls 2 has this lightning effects, the frame rate was like 25-30fps. The retail version is like 35-40fps.
@Luhiner
@Luhiner Жыл бұрын
@@armando1is1great fromsoft always has perfomance issues on their games even on high end hardware such a shame
@ckkqwer2611
@ckkqwer2611 3 жыл бұрын
the old one feel more interesting and immersive, but it is going to be painful when you have to play a long time, kinda want a compromise between these two version.
@MatthewTheUntitled
@MatthewTheUntitled 2 жыл бұрын
Make places that are supposed to be dark darker Upgrade graphics so it won't look like it's upscaled PS2 game, the game looks so crispy... in the worst way Imagine making a game that looks better and worse at the same time
@annhentaiuser6658
@annhentaiuser6658 2 жыл бұрын
Hence, the balanced lighting of Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, and even Sekiro.
@martinivanov1319
@martinivanov1319 2 жыл бұрын
all this because consoles suck. if they released this one on pc, the console players would cry because theirs look way inferior. we all have to receive the same product. in that case - a worse product
@royolaniye6643
@royolaniye6643 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinivanov1319 Didn't Dark Souls 2 release on PS3? Probably why
@martinivanov1319
@martinivanov1319 2 жыл бұрын
@@royolaniye6643 idk, ps5 is the first time consoles are powerful tho. previous playstations always have been weak(can barely hold 30 fps on ultra low) compared to pc hardware when they came out. this is the first time that games can actually advance in performance, visuals and physics because everything is made with ps in mind and this time ps isnt weak
@MuleyxHD
@MuleyxHD 6 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing that guy use the torch & being blown away by how beautiful it looked...then using it in game myself and dying inside LOL.
@rozza1903
@rozza1903 6 жыл бұрын
thank god the gutter exists
@TheKarui
@TheKarui 6 жыл бұрын
no, fuck the gutter.
@TheSpyChecker
@TheSpyChecker 6 жыл бұрын
Why, exactly? There were better lighting effects in some games made before 2008...
@rozza1903
@rozza1903 6 жыл бұрын
its not how good it looked, its how it was utilized, without torches you could barely see ahead of you, but with torches you could light up the place and from the 1st bonfire you could see these lights which were the torches you had lit up, probs the most original area in the game
@Revalopod
@Revalopod 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSpyChecker there was better lighting effects in 1998, in Unreal
@Telic
@Telic 6 жыл бұрын
My eyes light up whenever i see you upload
@Big_Z60
@Big_Z60 6 жыл бұрын
Nani??
@onii-chain
@onii-chain Жыл бұрын
“yeah we mostly focused on improving the graphics” brightness X10000000000
@viggiestrikes
@viggiestrikes 4 жыл бұрын
I get that the extreme darkness could become cumbersome if implemented in most of the game but I like the idea of choosing between defense(shield) and visibility(torch). The latter would result in exciting, aggressive gameplay like bloodborne.
@cherrygrabber7172
@cherrygrabber7172 Жыл бұрын
That's me but with Skyrim and how few areas are dark enough to use a torch or light spell. Lighting as part of gameplay, can be very interesting at times and I like games that explore more of it.
@luizhenriquebraunermoraes3175
@luizhenriquebraunermoraes3175 9 ай бұрын
@@cherrygrabber7172 Making magelight relevant would really be a boon to spellsword characters. Having a lantern option for two-handed ungabunga warriors that can't cast anything would be cool too. I'll write this down on my game design notebook.
@cherrygrabber7172
@cherrygrabber7172 9 ай бұрын
@@luizhenriquebraunermoraes3175 Me lighting a match in a dark cave, Falmer surrounding me; was cool while it lasted, near the Snow Elf Temple.
@luizhenriquebraunermoraes3175
@luizhenriquebraunermoraes3175 9 ай бұрын
@@cherrygrabber7172 Falmer would be a really good choice for a creepy dark cave. Their whole lore was made specifically for dark places, even though I hate low visibility, I think it was a waste to put mushroom lightbulbs everywhere in their biomes lol
@jippalippa
@jippalippa 6 жыл бұрын
07:10. Completely different mood.
@jordanmyers1450
@jordanmyers1450 6 жыл бұрын
jippalippa when i go back and llay the first DS there is an atmosphere that DS2 just never had. DS2 just feels like a land with no Soul.
@FrogTonic
@FrogTonic 6 жыл бұрын
Jordan Myers Ahhhhh ahaha he, get it? No SOUL?!?!?
@jordanmyers1450
@jordanmyers1450 6 жыл бұрын
PotatoizedRock *laughs in skeletor
@ProsperKelley
@ProsperKelley 6 жыл бұрын
Dark souls 2 hah more like light souls 2
@dusk3219
@dusk3219 6 жыл бұрын
Prosper Kelley Underrated comment
@Axodus
@Axodus 6 жыл бұрын
lol that's what I was thinking, I was gonna write "Is it just me or is Dark Souls 2 too bright?"
@tomaslozada9397
@tomaslozada9397 6 жыл бұрын
Prosper Kelley OH SNAP!
@nicolasriveros943
@nicolasriveros943 6 жыл бұрын
Prosper Kelley Now o get The sentence From The Herald: ''To See LIGHT...'' (?
@virtuallyperfect7973
@virtuallyperfect7973 3 жыл бұрын
Lite Souls
@clintonleonard5187
@clintonleonard5187 2 жыл бұрын
What really blows my mind is that the pre-downgrade version is what my mind remembers Demon's Souls looking like. I remember that game had such good looking environments when it came out.
@baitposter
@baitposter 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely would've preferred that older version that had higher poly details and better atmosphere. Low texture resolutions is a fine price to pay and easily remastered. A fair bit of things got streamlined out, even the doorframes looked better.
@iloveyoushima
@iloveyoushima 2 жыл бұрын
Have you played both of them?
@theta_clips
@theta_clips Жыл бұрын
"Low texture resolutions is a fine price to pay and easily remastered" This is the fucking problem we have with games nowadays. We just expect them to be fixed by remasters instead of looking good when they come out. Also, what are you talking about? People bitch about the low quality textures in DS2 release.
@gozinta82
@gozinta82 12 күн бұрын
@@iloveyoushima You can just tell by the demo, the door frames in the demo look WAYYY better. especially the pillars when player goes down the ladder. You can see it in the side-by-side comparison in the video.
@indeimaus
@indeimaus 6 жыл бұрын
it's a darn shame
@levishelm426
@levishelm426 6 жыл бұрын
I love you videos! (classic comment)
@AsterSea
@AsterSea 6 жыл бұрын
Indeimaus Top 10 dark souls 2 light sources video.
@maxinator317
@maxinator317 6 жыл бұрын
Indeimaus "darn"
@stupidlyoptimistic6692
@stupidlyoptimistic6692 6 жыл бұрын
Holyshit you watch crowbcat! We must connected (*_*)
@Sean.Thomas2
@Sean.Thomas2 6 жыл бұрын
💉🐎🙄
@MikeDeLaMorte
@MikeDeLaMorte 5 жыл бұрын
This seems to explain all those random torch light points in the game. :MIND BLOWN:
@mooganify
@mooganify 4 жыл бұрын
And the fact that they disappear as time goes on
@leoortiiiz
@leoortiiiz 3 жыл бұрын
@Zoe Kin Don't blame consoles for downgrading a game, are you saying that they removed lightning and dark places to be console compatible? Lol
@DukeoftheAges
@DukeoftheAges 3 жыл бұрын
@@leoortiiiz Yes, many other games have had to change their original vision to be able to be run on consoles. It would make since that consoles caused this as pc can easily handle it.
@leoortiiiz
@leoortiiiz 3 жыл бұрын
@@DukeoftheAges The creator of the mod that fixes the lightning said that it's because the game was rushed and made crossgem
@justinduck2953
@justinduck2953 3 жыл бұрын
@OX XY ds2 was originally supposed to be a ps4, xbox one game. But there were problems during development and bandai namco got annoyed so they fired the director and told the new one to release the game for ps3 and xbox 360 and way earlier than it was originally planned to release. So yeah the game wasn't meant to be cross gen, only current gen. So despite wanting to shit on consoles like a typical redditor, the problem was that the game was rushed and had a new director half way through development. That's why a lot of areas in the final game are connected in such weird ways (you know, elevator up the sky). They had already made those levels but didn't have time to connect them properly
@Mick-hp4yg
@Mick-hp4yg 4 жыл бұрын
That original lighting looked amazing! The dark areas of the game would have been way scarier. Too bad even sotfs didn't deliver.
@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi
@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi 3 жыл бұрын
You could've delivered that yourself with SweetFX/Reshade to restore those lighting settings actually. Not your job but hey its a workaround that works well at least.
@Mick-hp4yg
@Mick-hp4yg 3 жыл бұрын
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi Wish I could have, but I'm not a PC player. That mod does look good though! I knew dsfix was a thing on the first game, but I didn't know one existed for DS2.
@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi
@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mick-hp4yg Its not dsfix basically but simply a sweetfx/reshade preset that reverts the lighting to E3. Not fully but surely 90% closer to it~ and yeah thats why I love PC you can sort out problems yourself sometimes :3 Playing like that makes the areas feel so much better because you play them the way they were intended to do
@Mick-hp4yg
@Mick-hp4yg 3 жыл бұрын
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi Yeah, it's high time I get a PC. Last time I splurged I picked PS4 because of bloodborne, but I don't know if the demons souls remake is worth buying a PS5 for.
@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi
@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mick-hp4yg I personally find it sad that they still go for such shady strategies to give people a reason to buy a console, I expected that to be over considering how much they praised the PS5s specs. I just dont get it why making an exclusive for no reason, I mean it would've not been hard for them to port bloodborne or Demon Souls to PC as they did before /= Its a real shame, I would've loved it to have played Bloodborne too x.x
@rashidhumine
@rashidhumine 3 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls 2 vs Bright Souls 2.
@salokin3087
@salokin3087 6 жыл бұрын
When crowb's uploaded, shit is about to get wild
@T4Gxoxo
@T4Gxoxo 6 жыл бұрын
Salokin You're right This upload is shit
@urahi830
@urahi830 6 жыл бұрын
roasty toasty you are not even trying to hide the massive butthurt
@Corgun
@Corgun 6 жыл бұрын
He definitely has a talent for riling up crowds.
@urahi830
@urahi830 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think getting called a nerd under a crowbcat video counts as an insult
@Playingplayerz
@Playingplayerz 6 жыл бұрын
it's almost like content cop, but less beef, just facts
@rowdyramenkun4083
@rowdyramenkun4083 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t let this distract you from the time Mr.Krabs traded Spongebob’s soul for 62 cents.
@ZombieSlayer876
@ZombieSlayer876 6 жыл бұрын
Don't let this distract you from the fact RigeGum owns the clown 10 grand.
@grantwilliams2650
@grantwilliams2650 6 жыл бұрын
I have no words for how much I love both of your comments
@Gaybootytwerk
@Gaybootytwerk 6 жыл бұрын
RowdyRamen Kun So wait are souls from Dark Souls 62 cents each?
@joko49perez
@joko49perez 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus fucking Christ, you got me off guard.
@bleebloo2110
@bleebloo2110 3 жыл бұрын
This poor game needs a remake/reimagining. It has great features and great ideas but they need executed better
@RCD97-hm5mv
@RCD97-hm5mv 3 жыл бұрын
Its because Miyazaki didn't direct the game
@numberjuan5837
@numberjuan5837 3 жыл бұрын
It’s entire combat and hitbox system needs reworking tbh
@zatoka08
@zatoka08 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCD97-hm5mv This is quite misleading, since the second director was a very competent guy. If they had him from the start the game in my mind could be exceptional.
@Pan_Z
@Pan_Z 3 жыл бұрын
It really doesn't. Dark Souls 2 was a cash in by FromSoft and Namco. It's a mess with some interesting ideas, but ultimately boring levels and uncreative, repetitive bosses. Trying to improve it would be to greatly overhaul most of the game.
@fabook1
@fabook1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pan_Z it has arguably the best pvp in the series
@Mornepin
@Mornepin 7 ай бұрын
"Dark Souls 2 Plastic Edition" as many said before
@aleomagic
@aleomagic 6 жыл бұрын
Steam>steamapps>common>Darksouls2>Graphics.txt>downgrade=1
@hibernative
@hibernative 6 жыл бұрын
Nikola B What does that do?
@ColeWolfsson
@ColeWolfsson 6 жыл бұрын
god tier comment
@wispy9859
@wispy9859 6 жыл бұрын
lowspecgamer approves
@voidofspaceandtime4684
@voidofspaceandtime4684 6 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke, or do they have it labeled "downgrade" in the settings txt?
@omnisel
@omnisel 6 жыл бұрын
I wish
@danshiba1498
@danshiba1498 6 жыл бұрын
Dark souls. The dark souls of video games
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 6 жыл бұрын
jethical b15 The media is the Dark Souls of Earth.
@starfox300
@starfox300 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls is basically the Dark Souls of the Dark Sous franchise.
@tomascanevaro4292
@tomascanevaro4292 6 жыл бұрын
Dark souls is like Cuphead but in 3d
@Axodus
@Axodus 6 жыл бұрын
Cupdhead is like 2D Dark Souls
@RLS9-12
@RLS9-12 6 жыл бұрын
dan c Darksouls, the Cuphead of videogames
@Piratadoidao
@Piratadoidao 3 жыл бұрын
In the release, there are areas who look really lame and walls/floors that are just textures repeated, while in the old version/demo, the walls/floors had more than just repeated textures like in 1:51. The particle effects are downgraded at almost non-existent as well. Particle effects that were present in sword hitting the enemies, using items. And the UI looked better in the demo as well. I mean, if they created a version just like the old one, I would buy straight out. Because it looks so much better in comparison to the release.
@churro5322
@churro5322 Ай бұрын
Dynamics and layered textures are harder to run.
@atlasprime6193
@atlasprime6193 4 жыл бұрын
Get ready for “Flames of Old”, a PC mod of Dark Souls 2 that will recreate the E3 showcase as well as improving it!
@energize_r886
@energize_r886 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know the release day?
@atlasprime6193
@atlasprime6193 3 жыл бұрын
Energize_r No one knows yet.
@julianas.3352
@julianas.3352 3 жыл бұрын
Dammit, I’m also finish with DS1 remastered and I don’t want to play DS2 with graphics like that
@bender535
@bender535 3 жыл бұрын
@@julianas.3352 I think you'll get used to it just like i did
@Kai-rc6zi
@Kai-rc6zi 3 жыл бұрын
@@julianas.3352 Imagine playing dark souls games for the graphics lol wtf?
@TypicallyUniqueOfficial
@TypicallyUniqueOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
1:50 is the best example of the entire comparison. They upgraded the texture of the bridge but forgot everything else.
@Jaqen-HGhar
@Jaqen-HGhar 4 жыл бұрын
except it's not an upgraded texture, I don't get where people are saying the comparison on the right has upgraded textures at all. The only reason any of the textures on the right look better is because they are comparing a capture from an IGN video of a 360 game to a PC port so of course certain things will look clearer.
@BabyKuhnGames
@BabyKuhnGames 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jaqen-HGhar except the game as a whole used to have much better lighting with dark rooms you had to take slow and methodically now it's bright as hell with no need for a torch throughout the entire game. In an atmospheric game, lighting is everything and they ruined it
@jaheim123
@jaheim123 4 жыл бұрын
Wait why they removed the monsters in the new one what ? 🤦‍♂️ why they downgrade it ....
@Zero-zr6xx
@Zero-zr6xx 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaheim123 i know its late but the Game Development was Hold 2 years Too Early also and PS3's then cannot run the pre release because the fps is extremely low
@sreyerbri7469
@sreyerbri7469 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaheim123 They didn't remove the lizards dumbass, there's just less of them so they're not impossible to fight.
@Noelosky
@Noelosky 6 жыл бұрын
I love the way you present your videos man. Not a single comment needed, you just let facts speak for themselves.
@sonicboom564
@sonicboom564 6 жыл бұрын
TriggeredSaiyan he comments in the title and description with clear bias, fuck do you mean?
@NaikoArt
@NaikoArt 6 жыл бұрын
that his "bias" is actually supported by the content of the video, he doesnt need to add any stupid obvious commentary or over the top humor to appeal or some shit.
@cypherusuh
@cypherusuh 6 жыл бұрын
some of his content are usually saturated on the worst possible case of the topic but then again, truth is truth, no matter which part you shine the lights on
@sonicboom564
@sonicboom564 6 жыл бұрын
but he does, which he does in the description and title, not the video. he does it to create a false sense of neutrality that’s somewhat passive aggressive, like FOX or MSNBC.
@DeathmetalPersian
@DeathmetalPersian 6 жыл бұрын
Marvin Butler II oh fuck off. Hes presenting an argument and backing it with visual evidence. His bias is clear and understood that he sees these changes as a negative. You as a living, thinking human should be able to understand this and still accept his evidence as true enough reason to think negatively of this practice. If the fact that game developers lie makes you so butthurt maybe you should go see what its like to work as one in this industry.
@antonironstag5085
@antonironstag5085 4 жыл бұрын
Demons Souls: dark and spooky Dark Souls: dark and spooky Dark Souls 3: dark and spooky Bloodborne: dark and spooky Dark Souls 2: bright and plastic
@antonironstag5085
@antonironstag5085 4 жыл бұрын
@@dopples9004 road of sacrifices? Farron keep? Irithyll? Ringed city?
@antonironstag5085
@antonironstag5085 4 жыл бұрын
@οὐτόπος ive played them all and I think ds2 is the weakest because it has no atmosphere. If not for the pvp it would be a crap game. Thats my opinion
@cynicalgold9992
@cynicalgold9992 4 жыл бұрын
@οὐτόπος you realize you just said ds2 is better than ds3 because ds3 has easy bosses, right? Ds2 has pathetic bosses compared to ds3
@Ginormousbeans
@Ginormousbeans 4 жыл бұрын
@οὐτόπος Ds2 has the least interesting bosses of any souls game. 90% of them are just a humanoid with a sword or something
@F1rstNameLastName
@F1rstNameLastName 4 жыл бұрын
οὐτόπος ds2 bosses are 40% ganks, if you think ds3 is repetitive, how about dumping 5/10/15/20 of an enemy found in the area before the boss room or a new but multiplied enemy and calling that a boss? Because that's dark souls 2. The singular humanoid bosses like pursurer, mirror knight, fume knight, even smelter demon all had boring attacks that were too similar to each other. Hell even Burnt Ivory King and Sir Alonne had very generic movesets as well.
@anonecki
@anonecki 3 жыл бұрын
Before release: a Dark Souls game After release: mat_fullbright 1
@beetheimmortal
@beetheimmortal 3 жыл бұрын
underrated comment
@k54maclosky97
@k54maclosky97 3 жыл бұрын
@@beetheimmortal ay but is still have souls in it heart atleast it not platstic souls remastered
@beetheimmortal
@beetheimmortal 3 жыл бұрын
@@k54maclosky97 Indeed
@evangelism2
@evangelism2 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reopening old wounds, I had forgotten how bad this was.
@lostnotyetfound6013
@lostnotyetfound6013 6 жыл бұрын
P R A I S E \[T]/
@IBBallinWithYoMom
@IBBallinWithYoMom 6 жыл бұрын
Your brain was trying to help you. Who still gives a shit about this good lord
@MultiDeivas
@MultiDeivas 6 жыл бұрын
evangelism It isn't bad. People jusylt make it out to be so.
@evangelism2
@evangelism2 6 жыл бұрын
@multideivas Yeah, I disagree it was fucking bad. They spend almost the entire demo highlighting the lighting system and how much it adds to the game, with it ending up being removed right before release. Not to mention the texture downgrade, particle effects, reflections as well.
@evangelism2
@evangelism2 6 жыл бұрын
@ballin People who care about the video game industry for more than just 'muh madden and 2k'
@WhiteMousse1980
@WhiteMousse1980 5 жыл бұрын
1:51 Just look at all those amazing repeating floor textures
@ManoFerrero
@ManoFerrero 4 жыл бұрын
I can't look cause now i'm Blind
@mooganify
@mooganify 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no, a moment of the game that will hardly be noticed and isnt even important is repeated, this is the most pressing issue of this game
@ogplr5914
@ogplr5914 4 жыл бұрын
This cracked me up hahahahaha
@lucklesscope8367
@lucklesscope8367 4 жыл бұрын
@@mooganify It was a valid point tho since it repeats itself multiple times through-out the game, your sarcastic comment can't ignore that fact
@8304u
@8304u 4 жыл бұрын
Truly the best souls game, b team perfecting the genre...
@saymyname2618
@saymyname2618 3 жыл бұрын
Im happy that i never saw any of these trailers or gameplay footage before playing it, so i wasnt dissapointed. Im watching this 1 year AFTER i already beated the game just because i found it randomly on KZbin.
@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT 2 жыл бұрын
The original lighting is so much better. My biggest problem with the full release is that everything looks flat.
@Wruce_Bayne
@Wruce_Bayne 6 жыл бұрын
CrowbCat is the Dark Souls of KZbinrs
@reallybigbiscuit3568
@reallybigbiscuit3568 6 жыл бұрын
Bruce 'We want this to be the Dark Souls of FPS games'
@fullofwhiskey4911
@fullofwhiskey4911 6 жыл бұрын
Content cop of video games
@NexusWarior211
@NexusWarior211 6 жыл бұрын
Bruce Crowbcat is the final boss of youtube
@spartanmkvi3826
@spartanmkvi3826 6 жыл бұрын
He is a scumbag. Dunkey will punch him
@AlexG012
@AlexG012 6 жыл бұрын
I don't want to break the 666 likes lol.
@51Archives
@51Archives 6 жыл бұрын
Darksouls? More like Lightsouls
@davidgomezdeossa6448
@davidgomezdeossa6448 6 жыл бұрын
BeerMeJesus this comment is like the whole video but in words
@brackonstudios
@brackonstudios 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls? More like, Cheery Spirits.
@_itchweed
@_itchweed 6 жыл бұрын
beer me jesus
@ilikemusic5440
@ilikemusic5440 4 жыл бұрын
It’s been like 8 years and I’m still pissed off about this.
@operandassembler
@operandassembler 3 жыл бұрын
We're sitting in the middle of a horrible pandemic and fascist uprising and all I can think about on the toilet is "the dark souls 2 visual and tonal downgrade was a fucking disaster!"
@c.f9448
@c.f9448 3 жыл бұрын
@@operandassembler "fascist uprising" Take your meds schizo
@angelnobody7137
@angelnobody7137 3 жыл бұрын
Imma take this thing with me till the grave man
@MatPost
@MatPost 3 жыл бұрын
@@c.f9448 stop huffing that Copium, weirdo
@theobserver8429
@theobserver8429 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatPost it just how big of a disappointment it was
@thomas-zs2jm
@thomas-zs2jm 4 ай бұрын
man whoever spent their time on the lighting must've been so disappointed to see how much of a downgrade it was in the final release
@ItsAGundam
@ItsAGundam 6 жыл бұрын
Thank God for PC mods..... Edit: even reshades and texture mods can't makeup for that many missing assets and enemies.
@edwuncleriii3798
@edwuncleriii3798 6 жыл бұрын
It'sAGundam hello there mate just finished watching one of your videos
@captainwonderbar1657
@captainwonderbar1657 6 жыл бұрын
ReShade is my butt buddy.
@Blag_Cog
@Blag_Cog 6 жыл бұрын
Problem is these shader mods doesn't have the proper art direction nor the proper implementation to be highly optimized on the level that these development teams can make them.
@ChannelYouMightLike
@ChannelYouMightLike 6 жыл бұрын
+Blag Cog Agreed. They are, however, amazing tools. SweetFX, especially the older versions, is ridiculously easy to tweak and you can make the game look however you want once you've learn which effects do what. We'll never have E3 DS2, but being able to apply "my" own post-processing to games is both fun to do and look at afterwards.
@retractingblinds
@retractingblinds 6 жыл бұрын
mods don't fix a shit game.
@Pikachujc
@Pikachujc 6 жыл бұрын
just in time as always crowb nice work bringing this to us while it's still topical
@Mantis4
@Mantis4 6 жыл бұрын
LUL
@Jinars.
@Jinars. 6 жыл бұрын
Some Prick can't wait till next year for the ds3 comparison
@hatskeleton635
@hatskeleton635 6 жыл бұрын
Except we were notified of the changes with DS3 because there was live betas.
@charlie1234500
@charlie1234500 6 жыл бұрын
Some Prick How?
@InVinoVeratas
@InVinoVeratas 6 жыл бұрын
^Woosh
@serge3580
@serge3580 4 жыл бұрын
Best side by side video ever done of anything. Great job.
@duplicarus
@duplicarus 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the demo was too dark but that the final product is waaaay too bright
@mellamojeff458
@mellamojeff458 2 жыл бұрын
its not though the problem with ds1 was that it was too fucking dark and the tomb of giants being a fucking nightmare to navigate without any other approach except the lanter or sunlight maggot or if you already knew the layout this is why i absolutely hated the black gultch and gutter
@ValleDelSergio
@ValleDelSergio 6 жыл бұрын
This is the Dark Souls of comparisons
@JuliusCaesar103
@JuliusCaesar103 6 жыл бұрын
Noche de Juegos best comment
@KaboOrz
@KaboOrz 6 жыл бұрын
the fucking skeleton dragon just disappearing LOL
@selimlanani3287
@selimlanani3287 2 жыл бұрын
needs remaster of this masterpiece
@calor023
@calor023 2 жыл бұрын
still cant get over how the re-release didnt do anything to fix how bland the original release looks
@duncanmacleod7287
@duncanmacleod7287 2 жыл бұрын
Yea what a shame and call me crazy but to me the pre release graphics of DS2 still look more interesting than DS3 or even Elden Ring. I wish they'd remake the game and launch it on PS5 as a sort of definitive edition with all that was promised.
@SkyNinja759
@SkyNinja759 6 жыл бұрын
It looks like it was just lighting effects that made the game look like shit. From can try to defend themselves by saying it made the game "unplayable" but it would have made torches actually useful along with the challenge and atmosphere skyrocket. Maybe they went overboard in the demo but they butchered it so much it looks like there's no lighting at all.
@SolarFlarehorse
@SolarFlarehorse 6 жыл бұрын
Just looking at the first area they showed off I immediately saw why they gave you a torch off the bat. To bad that we never got to FUCKING USE IT. Even in some of the darkest areas of the game, I never found myself needing to use a torch like I did when I was in TOTG. It's sad that just the lighting alone would've made this game look so much prettier.
@FallensAnger
@FallensAnger 6 жыл бұрын
yeah what I thougth has well, hopefully you can activate the old lighting or mod it so it has the same feeling
@WilleWalla02
@WilleWalla02 6 жыл бұрын
SkyNinja759 The textures are way shittier too.
@SuperAvocadoo
@SuperAvocadoo 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, cannot use the torch now. What a big deal... Don`t confuse challenge with poor gameplay mechanics. You think people would have fun fighting against enemies which you can`t see where their attacks are coming from or where you can run to evade them? What about suddenly dying by an attack or enemy you didn`t see? Sure, the game had a downgrade, but the gameplay improved. You could argue they could make good graphics without the super dark contrast, but that`s unrelated to the comparison and intention of this video. Good graphics don`t equal good gameplay. For a better understanding of this, go watch videogamedunkey`s video called "Bad Graphics".
@gael9181
@gael9181 6 жыл бұрын
fuck you fanboy
@anonforyou
@anonforyou 6 жыл бұрын
For a game that has "dark" in the title, is very bright hahaha
@LordOfLemon
@LordOfLemon 3 жыл бұрын
So, having seen some of the dev notes in early versions of the game, here's my theory as to what happened: For a while, the plan was to make Dark Souls 2 a game that depends on torch management and light for its atmosphere and scares. Somewhere during the development process, they probably found that this light management and stumbling in the dark doesn't work as well as they expected. Because of this, they had to brighten everything up, but since all the assets were designed for the darkness, the game ended up looking washed out. On top of this, they were on a tight schedule, so they couldn't properly fix this.
@Average_K
@Average_K 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a brilliant observation! It would have been interesting to see how the game turned out if they stuck with that idea.
@angelguzman477
@angelguzman477 3 жыл бұрын
@Я не знаю как говорить по-русски a few rooms?🤔
@Funktastic_Ed
@Funktastic_Ed 3 жыл бұрын
Way too much key lighting in the final release, you need to let the directional light from sources work, if i was a modder the thing i would consider doing is making the ambient (key) lighting less prominent, in order to let light express. See how the left version looks kindda better even with ugly textures.
@teehundeart
@teehundeart 5 жыл бұрын
Lighting is definitely downgraded and makes DS2 look flat in many areas. But goddamn the demo is dark. I can't see a thing and would propably really strain my eyes.
@hatskeleton635
@hatskeleton635 5 жыл бұрын
That was supposed to be the game. You know, tactical?
@teehundeart
@teehundeart 5 жыл бұрын
@@hatskeleton635 eye strain is not tactical.
@yourshits_fuckingweak1675
@yourshits_fuckingweak1675 5 жыл бұрын
teehundeart that comeback was actually pretty good lol
@Yawyna124
@Yawyna124 4 жыл бұрын
@@teehundeart Tactical eye strain deployed! We'll get 'em next time.
@ricardosavagestrike
@ricardosavagestrike 4 жыл бұрын
@@Yawyna124 Frigid Loyce sends regards.
@F1rsttimer
@F1rsttimer 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like Ubisoft touched a door handle in FromSoftware Studios.
@tomthestone1470
@tomthestone1470 6 жыл бұрын
F1rsttime_online _burn_
@videoimmortal9447
@videoimmortal9447 6 жыл бұрын
Ubisoft has only downgraded games when asked to by fans.
@JonathanJoestarJuicefest
@JonathanJoestarJuicefest 6 жыл бұрын
Killer Ubisoft has already touched these graphics.
@rabbischlomobengoldbergstein
@rabbischlomobengoldbergstein 6 жыл бұрын
Ubisoft is Older than all of you filthy subhuman imbeciles , they downgraded a game or two because of console peasantry now it's all " oooh ubisoft downgrades oooh " shut the fuck up !
@I.KUchiha
@I.KUchiha 6 жыл бұрын
LOOOOOOOL
@ldcent8482
@ldcent8482 3 ай бұрын
This looks exactly like the jump from ptde to remastered. Were they using the old lighting engine at that point in development?
@littlesneets8026
@littlesneets8026 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame, because I love dark souls 2 sotfs. It's the first game I played, and is absolutely worthy of a remaster for all the decent mechanics and playability it offers. If it were to be remastered, I think the following should be fixed: -lighting obviously. it's too light and defeats the torch purpose. And mechanisms that illuminate a room or such, should be placed elsewhere that doesn't make the stakes easier (aldias keep. You can already light the corridor the second you walk in with a lockstone. - phantom attacks. Getting attacked or grabbed by enemies you roll away from, and their magnetic attacks. That's just bull, and the animations should be better incorporated. This, and PVP because I can stand 4 meters away, yet my opponent strikes me from afar and I just die. - level design. Some areas just didn't make sense. The locations were awkwardly placed, and it wasn't particularly the best aspect in places like Rhoys resting place, harvest valley, dragon peak, aldias keep, and iron keep. How is the iron keep on top of harvest valley, when there's lava on the ground? And some other areas just didn't have enough exploration imo. - boss design. There were some great bosses, but I feel as though some were just filler. The ones I would strike away would be the dragon riders, royal rat vanguard/ authority, prowling magnus and congregation, the gank trio in Sunken Crown DLC. The ones that I'd want to change & improve would be: The pursuer, last giant, the skeleton Lords, lost sinner, Scorpioness najka, dukes dear freja, mytha the baneful queen, the rotten, old iron king, covateous demon, demon of song, Velstadt, Ancient dragon, Throne watcher & defender, Nashandra, and aldia. All of these bosses, I personally don't think had enough to stand out besides their designs. And they eventually just get easier the more you play. Rather more gimmicky. - enemy placement. Some enemies just didn't seem fit to be placed in some areas. Some of the more bosses taken out could have worked better as enemies, if placed appropriately. Namely the dragon riders in drangleic castle and Heides Tower of flame. There were some repetitive enemies like royal soldiers and syan knight. Speaking of which, introducing some slight variety would've been decent in some areas. -covenants Some were either dead or too popular: everyone uses the blood brotherhood for PVP, the warriors of sun for co-op just to get the rank rewards. Bell defender covenant was cool while it lasted, but just not as cool as the forest hunter covenant. Dark pilgrims, champions, dragon, we're probably my favourite. But otherwise, some rewards were just boring, or things you'd find later in game. -soul memory: Debatable to be good or bad. Personally that depends on how you play. It was great for pvp if you wanted a challenge, or bad for coop. I wish there was a system that allowed one to lose soul memory, but perhaps soul level still holds a big influence on online connection. -estus: Seemed to regenerate health too slowly, which was great if you were punishing a chugger during pvp, but less so if you were fighting a boss. And as as much as I loved finding bone dust to strengthen my estus, I hated finding shards to have more flasks. I kinda wish they kept the kindled aspect a bit. Also, only 12 flasks, than 20, which is a shame. -levelling up from emerald herald was kind of annoying, but It'll pass. -no patches or andre of astora, so i feel sad. That's just about the only few things I had to pick with the game. But my favourite aspects were: -variety of fashion design, builds. The amount of armour sets this game offered, with the hidden effects, truly made customization so fun. If you were a cosplayer. -4 rings, 6 weapon slots, and 10 item slots. -sorcery, pyromancy, miracle and hexes were very versatile, giving way to all possible ways of exploiting them, without being punished too much. -stats were probably the best thing. The way new features worked, and accounted for playability. Dexterity finally has an output, and pyromancy & hexes becoming more defined. -powerstancing It was the fucking best, hands down. DS3 has a pitiful excuse of 'powerstancing' that doesn't come close. -weapon variation Finally, some weapons that are defined in design, stats, effects, and move sets. Fist builds finally get some spotlight, scythes, halberds, greathammers, greataxes. some weapons having awesome effects, some very awesome move sets that can be extended with powerstancing. (Majestic greatsword, bone fist, cestus, claws, reeves & orma greatshield, red rust swords, etc. Just to name a few) -some bosses were amazing, especially the DLC bosses. Mirror knight, vendrick, pursuer, ruin sentinels, and lost sinner, the executioner chariot. are my favourites, flawed as they might be. Fume knight, sir alonne, elanna, Ivory king, sinh, were the best experiences. -majula was probably the best hub for offline operations before doing anything. -fast traveling bonfires which was extremely convenient firsthand. -healing crystals, and new consumables & utility items which made builds so much fun to make, and how convenient they were to keep. -infusion for weapons and shields was wack. Again, more playability, and you could stack effects on boss weapons, or weapons with auxillary effects. Bleed & poison could actually be utilised more efficiently, and infused into any weapon almost. And rings that could boost those effects too! -the ambience or atmosphere of some places felt very defined. So rather impactful. There's more to add to both points, but that's my take. What do you think?
@kankeydong2500
@kankeydong2500 2 жыл бұрын
After all these years of playing DS2 I keep thinking that Adaptability is the worst stat that the series has ever implemented. And I say it as someone who loves DS2.
@littlesneets8026
@littlesneets8026 2 жыл бұрын
@@kankeydong2500 adaptability was kinda cool, albeit incorporated terribly. It was more than just i-frames, bit more poison and bleed BNS and rolling distance. The most useless stat in the series would have to be Resistance in DS1. Literally only boosted your poison resistance, that's lame
@kankeydong2500
@kankeydong2500 2 жыл бұрын
@@littlesneets8026 oof i forgot that resistance in DS1 was even a thing. But atleast it doesn't hinder your i-frames when rolling and trivializes your Sunny D estus like you have all the time in the world to drink it. The latter pisses me off to a boil.
@subject204ghost3
@subject204ghost3 2 жыл бұрын
Sotfs is the remaster. You mean a remake.
@Legion849
@Legion849 11 ай бұрын
Dark Souls II SOTFS is a remaster you mean a remake.
@roxilntiger8347
@roxilntiger8347 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls 2 prepare to lie edition
@fnd2583
@fnd2583 6 жыл бұрын
DS3 didn't lie when they downgraded their lighting to DS1 level and people slurp it up. Why try to improve things if people will look at you with more critical eyes?
@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466
@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 5 жыл бұрын
@@fnd2583 Really, they downgraded DS3? Well, Im sure it wasn't pathetic, like DS2 since I didn't notice a difference between the trailers and the game.
@fnd2583
@fnd2583 5 жыл бұрын
@@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 They ditched a major feature from Dark Souls 2 like dynamic lights from torchs, you would notice it if you took the time to compare the graphics and features between sequels (as it should be, trailers and previews are bs propaganda as far back in early 2000, that's why i rarely watch them)
@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466
@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 5 жыл бұрын
@@fnd2583 Dynamic lightning? In DS2? Torches? Even in the "darkest" locations in the game like the Gultch torches weren't necessary. And the only deceptive trailers I've come across are Ubisoft trailers (which I don't gave a damn about since I don't buy those) and Dark Souls 2. (This one did hurt)
@fnd2583
@fnd2583 5 жыл бұрын
@@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 Torches where useful in some places(not much tho', blame the level designers but the potential was there), but it's more about graphical features (which is the main point off all the people complaints in regards to DS2). Torches and a lot of light sources in DS3 doesn't cast shadows like DS2 does(the exception is some static bonfires), there is even a dumb feature of stripping the main character of his own shadow if he is hollow(good job making the game uglier). I don't care that much about trailers, but sequels stripping good features from their predecessors pisses me off much more.
@irvancrocs1753
@irvancrocs1753 6 жыл бұрын
wtf, the gameplay of this game is just like dark souls..
@ene8415
@ene8415 6 жыл бұрын
irvanCrocs I mean it's dark souls, right?
@jurassic420
@jurassic420 6 жыл бұрын
Ernest Mil what if its just a mod for cuphead?
@ak47freddy
@ak47freddy 6 жыл бұрын
All From Software games are the same
@RedMushroomPanda
@RedMushroomPanda 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Minecraft ripoff to me :/
@irvancrocs1753
@irvancrocs1753 6 жыл бұрын
*just like dark souls* get it??
@julienlimas6068
@julienlimas6068 2 жыл бұрын
The demo was perfect, the lighting the huds the glows everything
@32bitpins73
@32bitpins73 4 жыл бұрын
"Y O U L I E D"
@Nomad-bl4yw
@Nomad-bl4yw 3 жыл бұрын
You got screwed by time constraints more like.still ds2 is my favorite fuk ds3 with it's boring safe design and shitty pvp
@mggame412
@mggame412 3 жыл бұрын
Nomad2145 Ds3 is better than 2 take off your nostalgia goggles
@Nomad-bl4yw
@Nomad-bl4yw 3 жыл бұрын
@@mggame412 well that's like your opinion man
@virtuallyperfect7973
@virtuallyperfect7973 3 жыл бұрын
Nomad2145 your opinion
@mggame412
@mggame412 3 жыл бұрын
Nomad2145 Lol ds3 didn’t have safe design
@TSMiller97
@TSMiller97 5 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls? More like Light Souls. Tf happened to that shadowing?
@Zamalshkay
@Zamalshkay 4 жыл бұрын
consoles happened
@houstonraver834
@houstonraver834 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zamalshkay STFU part 1 original was on console
@Jon_1996.
@Jon_1996. 4 жыл бұрын
Zamal don't blame console for shitty game designers
@Alex-hy9cw
@Alex-hy9cw 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jon_1996. it was consoles who caused this downgrade cause it couldn't go beyond 10 fps on ps3 so yes, console is to blame for this pathetic display;
@Jon_1996.
@Jon_1996. 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Verjans I'm not defending consoles but if FromSoft had actual good designers and programmers they could've work around it. But no they shit out this abomination of a game
@MyName-df7li
@MyName-df7li 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls 2 is the dark souls of the dark souls genre
@maynardsvoice
@maynardsvoice 6 жыл бұрын
On what grounds?
@McMarioG
@McMarioG 6 жыл бұрын
coffee
@HuNightmareable
@HuNightmareable 6 жыл бұрын
*Dark souls 2 is the Bloodbourne of the dark souls genre
@porkeywings
@porkeywings 6 жыл бұрын
Cody Grounds Cause it's tough as nails boi
@maxenfelter
@maxenfelter 6 жыл бұрын
I can't disagree with this.
@insanelyheinousbeefer
@insanelyheinousbeefer 3 жыл бұрын
aside from the lighting system, that weird slow "fall to your death" animation at 10:32 is fucking sick and i wish it had been implemented as some point in the series
@AceStrife
@AceStrife 8 ай бұрын
10 years later I'm still upset at this.
@RoboHoundGames
@RoboHoundGames 6 жыл бұрын
lol, the dragon skeleton just going away was hilarious
@correctcritic9749
@correctcritic9749 3 жыл бұрын
So fucking shit
@someguy2351
@someguy2351 6 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering why the E3 version looks so blurry: Low res textures (360 only had 512mb of RAM), strong depth of field in the distance, sub-720p render resolution that was common at the end of the console generation, and possibly FXAA, combined with KZbin compression. This footage is being compared to the PC port of the remaster at max settings. The focus should be on the missing lighting system, particles, shaders etc, not the clarity or lack thereof. I guarantee you the PC version of what DS2 should've been wouldn't look anywhere near as blurry.
@Kechioma
@Kechioma 6 жыл бұрын
The textures thing is bullshit excuse. Splinter Cell Blacklist on 360 comes with an optional hd texture pack. Which looks a hell of a lot nicer then the textures in this game. The 360 could've done better, the devs just can't make a good looking game.
@_Salok
@_Salok 6 жыл бұрын
It's not the Scholar of the First Sin at all, enemy placement isn't the same.
@Mart-E12
@Mart-E12 6 жыл бұрын
Scholar of the first sin looks a shitton better
@tigerfestivals5137
@tigerfestivals5137 6 жыл бұрын
someguy2351 yeah i don't think the footage on the right is from scholar
@TheMrDemonized
@TheMrDemonized 6 жыл бұрын
someguy2351 on video it is not the remaster
@crunchy_crop
@crunchy_crop 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all are trippin. The second one's lighting is bad sure, but the first one looks unplayable. It's so dark and all the colors look the same. You can't tell what anything is.
@MigBaez
@MigBaez 3 жыл бұрын
this, i always will prefer gameplay over atmosphere.
@gu3z185
@gu3z185 3 жыл бұрын
@@MigBaez Dark Souls 2 has no atmosphere, because it has 2007 lighting. The only place that looks nice is Majula, where as DS3 and DS1 had beatiful scenery everywhere. The game would at least have SOME with the original lighting. It's okay if they toned it down a bit, that makes sense for gameplay, but they didn't have to remove it.
@MigBaez
@MigBaez 3 жыл бұрын
@@gu3z185 If you say so lol. (Keeps enjoying the scenery of Heide' Tower of the flame, Drangleic castle and other places along their hommies who keep praising it via orange sign soapstones).
@MigBaez
@MigBaez 3 жыл бұрын
@@gu3z185 I have a lot of friends with visual disabilities and functional eyes who think the same. The graphical change was necessary as the ones in the first game lack horridly of contrast, graphically speaking Dark Souls 1 aged a lot in terms of optimizatiom and graphical playability, its graphics although interesting these are physically tiring (after a while my eyes get watered down and pink when i'm forced to grasp in the environment). By other hand a lot of areas are full of framedrops that forced the fandom to depend on mods like Dsfix to do something about, in that mod to increase performance you need to sacrifice those graphical enchancenents. Not even Dark Souls Remastered fixes a lot of those problems as you require a pc with a lot of RAM even if you have a DX11 graphics card and the contrast is still bad (and to think those motherf*ckers of namco removed PtdE from sales in general thinking the ramastered could replace it). I don't have issue with Dark Souls 3 in the graphic gameplay sense BUT that's what you you'd expect after two games, even though its optimization is as crappy as in ds1 even for console versions, i blame the shading in part of that too. Dark souls 2 is very good in both of those aspects: 2nd place in being visually approachable (imo) and 1rst place in being affordable for low spec gaming.
@MigBaez
@MigBaez 3 жыл бұрын
May be they could put a look in the middle for DSII (considering the existence of games like Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2 which has good shading and optimization) but you have to consider the developers were missing time at the end to rethink the shading from the scratch. things like performance would have been sacrificed and i'm thankful they weren't.
@film_misanthrope1449
@film_misanthrope1449 Жыл бұрын
The visual downgrade is the least of Dark Souls 2's problems..
@Darnefergitu
@Darnefergitu 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls 2 is the Dark Souls of action games
@lynkios
@lynkios 6 жыл бұрын
Darnefergitu Dark Souls 2 is the Dark Souls of Dark Souls games
@likescoob9639
@likescoob9639 6 жыл бұрын
Go to dollarshaveclub.com/official for the dark souls of shaving products
@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi
@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls 2 is the last proper Souls game. Use SweetFX and you fixed the downgrade, apart from that its outstanding in every aspect mostly. Stuff that Dark Souls 3 can't touch due to it being entirely broken by mechanics sadly. Dark Souls 2 had so much more details and build variety while Dark Souls 3 dont has any of it anymore and has overall way less content with DLCs that are too short, overpriced and that are breaking the game even more, the last DLC in particular. Adding new weapons that straight up outclass anyother, 10/10
@woodgecko106
@woodgecko106 6 жыл бұрын
soundcloud.com/cam_bia
@GideonIon8
@GideonIon8 6 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. Demon's Souls is the Dark Souls of action games.
@minifridge337
@minifridge337 6 жыл бұрын
This video is the cuphead of dark souls
@hardcastle522
@hardcastle522 6 жыл бұрын
xD
@nicolasriveros943
@nicolasriveros943 6 жыл бұрын
Minifridge this comment Is The Dark Souls of Crash Bandicoots
@jpxyUA
@jpxyUA 6 жыл бұрын
Hilarious and original
@kijinseija727
@kijinseija727 6 жыл бұрын
Minifridge wtf is cuphead
@thezucc575
@thezucc575 6 жыл бұрын
Minifridge ok this is weird I seem to see you in every comment section of EVERY video I watch so what is going on here
@d_shuffles
@d_shuffles 2 жыл бұрын
The textures and fidelity are better in the release but the darker lighting in the preview makes a better atmosphere.
@arthurdurham
@arthurdurham Жыл бұрын
I come back here time to time. I get why they changed it as the left has low res textures and needs a lot of blur to compensate for the more atmospheric lighting and art direction. The console hardware just couldn't handle what they wanted to have without a lot of compromises, esp while maintaining a higher frame rate than DS1. I don't feel like this was a lie or a lack of programming ability, as they really did seem to want to make the original version but it just wouldn't work for the target markets. The 7th gen was often plagued with dev ambition being too high for what the 360 and PS3 could handle (unless they were first party studios). Maybe if this was a PC exclusive it could have worked. But now they could make this with modern hardware, be awesome to see the original concept on tech that can handle it.
@TarsoJahnRibeiro
@TarsoJahnRibeiro 6 жыл бұрын
Watchdogs is the Dark Souls 2 of downgrades
@breakerboy365
@breakerboy365 6 жыл бұрын
im dead
@loneswordsman295
@loneswordsman295 6 жыл бұрын
Execpt Watchdogs' downgrade was way worse.
@dashsoulsthehornyone9125
@dashsoulsthehornyone9125 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao!
@CL-jq1xs
@CL-jq1xs 5 жыл бұрын
except watchdog downgrade is huge as hell and this seems like lighting is the main reason it looks like a downgrade.... look at 4:51 man do the old version look crappy
@LeoJay
@LeoJay 6 жыл бұрын
preorder cancelled.
@Tomato-lr2yu
@Tomato-lr2yu 6 жыл бұрын
2 l8 m8
@deathmetalhell
@deathmetalhell 6 жыл бұрын
sick
@johnnyblaze9874
@johnnyblaze9874 6 жыл бұрын
Nice meme
@sneaky4436
@sneaky4436 6 жыл бұрын
lmfao fr 2 l8
@valentinosimic2917
@valentinosimic2917 6 жыл бұрын
Pf
@baumapfel4463
@baumapfel4463 11 ай бұрын
if you want your game looking like the trailer i would suggest you look into theses mods: DS2LightingEngine SotFS, Scholar of the Second Sin Visual Overhaul (this mod adds many things like more grass more dynamiclights and other stuff) and Scholar of the Second Sin Texture Overhaul
@magimon91834
@magimon91834 3 жыл бұрын
The ironic thing is that DS2 is the best souls game for magic builds but If they had kept the lighting like this then any ranged build would be way worse
@QuentinofVirginia
@QuentinofVirginia 6 жыл бұрын
People to this day still deny that there was a downgrade in Dark Souls 2.
@Green.n.Purple
@Green.n.Purple 6 жыл бұрын
And they're doing it in these very comment sections. Dark Souls fanboys are right up there with Blizzdrones when it comes to delusion.
@sketchywest1176
@sketchywest1176 6 жыл бұрын
It's almost like aesthetic is a completely subjective topic that there is no right answer to.
@jamief123
@jamief123 6 жыл бұрын
Breh. Are you serious? The left objectively looks way fucking better. It has more advanced effects and better atmosphere. You can clearly see that the game was built around the darkness, but had to be downgraded last minute at 2:30 when the guy goes to pick up the torch. The torch is absolutely useless in the final version because the game is missing lighting effects.
@gracecalis5421
@gracecalis5421 6 жыл бұрын
Sketchy West117 Its not subjective because both iterations are trying to go for the same design philosophy. Its just that the left one achieved that visual philosophy much better. If we were discussing between two different styles of design in a game then yes, its subjective. But this video showcases texture resolution, polygons, pixel shading, lighting, geometry, etc. All of which are technical. ALL OF WHICH ARE QUANTITATIVE. Thus, its objective.
@hyperleap4876
@hyperleap4876 Жыл бұрын
I mean they upgraded nearly as much as they downgraded.
@jvictor3048
@jvictor3048 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls II is the Demon's Souls of Cuphead of video games.
@wowgoodjob3504
@wowgoodjob3504 6 жыл бұрын
J Victor comparing Dark Souls difficulty to Cuphead is pretty retarded
@JustLunarr
@JustLunarr 6 жыл бұрын
Shhh just let him him keep that mentality....
@Robbyx1000th
@Robbyx1000th 6 жыл бұрын
J Victor nice profile pic!!! Don't see enough of them
@Morson80
@Morson80 6 жыл бұрын
I see that Brand New avatar.
@rudestdudest826
@rudestdudest826 6 жыл бұрын
What?
@LazyK808
@LazyK808 9 ай бұрын
They took the life out of this game
@trevormills3339
@trevormills3339 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the alpha version running with the older graphics on PS3...and running well? Why did they change it?
@LilMeep_x
@LilMeep_x 2 жыл бұрын
Because they thought it was too dark in areas lol
@DammitSinged
@DammitSinged 6 жыл бұрын
Crowtent Cop - Dark Souls 2
@The_Viktor_Reznov
@The_Viktor_Reznov 6 жыл бұрын
DammitSinged What the fuck is a crowent?
@WWJimbo
@WWJimbo 6 жыл бұрын
I think Crowtent Cop would be better.
@NinjaShadow47
@NinjaShadow47 6 жыл бұрын
reference to a youtube series "content cop"
@Ikarusu
@Ikarusu 6 жыл бұрын
Shadow47 DID YOU JUST EXPLAIN THE MEMEEEE
@wartownie
@wartownie 6 жыл бұрын
normie!!!!! reeeee!!!!!!
@SupremeMarioGamer
@SupremeMarioGamer 6 жыл бұрын
Crowbcat is the Dark Souls of KZbinrs
@user-qf6bi8zb2h
@user-qf6bi8zb2h 6 жыл бұрын
SupremeMarioGamer he’s just like dark souls
@97denis97
@97denis97 6 жыл бұрын
30 fps cinematic feel like?
@hellxapo5740
@hellxapo5740 Жыл бұрын
The original truly put the "dark" in Dark Souls.
@schantzee5733
@schantzee5733 4 жыл бұрын
The current PS4 version, Scholar of the First Sin, has fixed the lightning system to be closer to the original vision while also improving the overall graphics and performance. The game still has dated textures in many areas but look much better compared to what is shown here. The torches are now useful!
@salokin3087
@salokin3087 6 жыл бұрын
This puts ubisoft to shame
@altera8242
@altera8242 6 жыл бұрын
Salokin Nah. Not even close. This is one occurrence compared to Ubisoft's repeated offenses.
@Lil.Lon3Ly
@Lil.Lon3Ly 6 жыл бұрын
Somebody always have to put down ubisoft huh, cause that totally fair...
@ezioauditoredafirenze7788
@ezioauditoredafirenze7788 6 жыл бұрын
Berzerk Llama Siege, Watch Dogs, Division, I think that's it but I don't know.
@ezioauditoredafirenze7788
@ezioauditoredafirenze7788 6 жыл бұрын
Feakasso it's their fault.
@si2foo
@si2foo 6 жыл бұрын
it is totally fair which is why it is sad
@wulf2863
@wulf2863 6 жыл бұрын
dark souls 2 on 2017? Damn, this comparison was right on time for release.
@TheMrDemonized
@TheMrDemonized 6 жыл бұрын
Wulfgraar nobody noticed
@Cassius40k
@Cassius40k 6 жыл бұрын
I am definitely second-guessing my preorder now.
@fnd2583
@fnd2583 6 жыл бұрын
They should compare DS2 lighting vs DS3 lighting to see you can downgrade your game between sequels
@fnd2583
@fnd2583 4 жыл бұрын
@Ldybug Good lighting would be something like the Metro series, DS lighting is average at best from the tech available.
@Dagoth_Ur_1
@Dagoth_Ur_1 10 ай бұрын
It's like they just switched off contrast, shadows and reflective lighting. Pretty sad.
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