Dark Type Luxray

[@chaosfantasy0064]

Fans: “Luxray should be a Dark-type.” Luxray: “Is it cause I’m black?”

[@tangerinepaint3643]

lmao

[@Starpotion]

Big yikes

[@bigpoggers6507]

This joke gets way funnier when you consider that the Dark type translates to the Evil type 😭

[@takenname8053]

Real

[@shockburst569]

“It’s black there for it’s a Dark type”

[@christiancinnabars1402]

Mightyena and Mabosstiff: "Yeah."

[@PunishedPrince]

If it was up to fans every pokemon would be dark, dragon and ghost

[@thebestman5382]

Okay but to be fair it shares the theme with the other dark types like mightyena

[@tangerinepaint3643]

⁠@@christiancinnabars1402 Hyenas are generally pretty vicious and Mabostiff is based on a mob boss. What excuse does Luxray have?

[@bubbykins4864]

Game Freak trying to convey types through design, but not having the guts to actually make them look menacing/sinister enough for people to get it (why does Steel get to retroactively be on a RG-introduced Pokémon, and Fairy get to have _multiple_ RG Pokémon retconned to its ranks, but the fish that was such a dick that it lost dragon powers _before it even finished getting them_ doesn't get the so-called Evil type?): Yes.

[@castform7]

I think this is just a case of "black fur = Dark type". Its Pokedex doesn't say anything about it being malicious or roaming around in the night. It's just talks about its x-ray vision. "But it learns Dark type moves". It learns Bite and Crunch. You know who else does? *Most Pokemon with sharp teeth.* Luxray's Dark type arguments feel so superficial and more like people just not liking monotypes.

[@venrosonitas]

Well, Pokemon like Alolan Grimer/Muk don't really have any justification for being dark type other than having dark STAB on crunch. I think that the xray gimmick stab on crunch would be enough justification for electric/dark type Luxray.

[@nore5888]

Fairy types legit get fairy for just being pink sometimes, so the point is kinda moot

[@nomad6169]

Dark type pokemon are generally cunning or mischievous, luxray is not really that

[@dipplinfan]

​@@nore5888 me when I don't read into mythology:

[@LaprasTrainerLiam]

Finally @castform7, you and Gator here have made pretty much the perfect counter to so many people complaining about how Luxray should be Dark Type. And you pretty much line up with my own thoughts too. Just because something has black in it's color scheme or design, doesn't mean it should be a Dark Type. Plus, Dark doesn't always equal evil. Need I remind people of Batman & Spawn? They have dark designs, yet they ain't evil characters. So I thank you with the bottom of my heart for making this comment Fast form, and for you Gator for making this video. Kudos to both of you guys! 😙👍

[@seronimo__7735]

I felt like it was sort of misleading to bring up Detective Pikachu Returns. Luxray was a convict in that game, and it was the only non-Dark type in the prison (at first). It allied with you as an anti-hero who wanted to escape jail.

[@jgr7487]

Strong Jaw Luxray would be the best alternative to being Dark type.

[@bathilra5364]

Wrong give it normal type and guts stab facade

[@tangerinepaint3643]

@@bathilra5364 Make it Electric/Normal and give it Strong Jaw in place of Rivalry

[@Pawbrew]

@@tangerinepaint3643 It’s not normal enough for it to be normal type (in my opinion).Most normal types are just a rodent, just a bird, just a lion, just sleepy bean bag, ect. Luxray is too not normal to not be normal type (once again, in my opinion).

[@tangerinepaint3643]

@@Pawbrew Nah ig, I think Luxray shouldn’t be a Normal-type either. I do think Strong Jaw + Better coverage + Redistributed stats would make it better tho.

[@patrickrocheleau8185]

Strong jaw would fix the lack of good stab moves by letting thunder fang hit hard enough to keep on a lvl 40+ pokemon aswell as boosting crunch, good idea

[@prisonmike7179]

A really big missed opportunity in my opinion is not making mega absol dark/fairy

[@fe_three_rosses]

Luxray is my favourite pokémon (tied with Gallade) and i never really understood why people think it should be a Dark type. literally all it does is have black fur. its name is derived from the word _light_ and i don't think there's anything particularly evil about it. it should be anything BUT a Dark type, to me. and i am experienced in liking Luxray

[@h4ppyp3an4buter6]

it has dark fur and bright glowing eyes like a nocturnal pokemon, it has a mean/serious face with contributes to it too and its sharp bits of fur make it look agressive, literraly put it next to mabostiff or a zorua/zoroark, it makes sense. i get the point of the video tho, that some of those ''fan typing'' are a bit of a streech like ground type typhlosion or to slap a fairy type in anything thats ''cute'' like minun, pikachu etc but you cant say that dark type luxray doesnt make sense

[@fe_three_rosses]

@@h4ppyp3an4buter6 i always read the spiky-looking fur as it being jolted up because of electricity, not dissimilar to Zebstrika, who also has the jet black fur and glowing bits (though i do admit that Zebstrika's rounder shapes make it look noticeably friendlier and more playful than Luxray). Haxorus also has the red, angry eyes with a black underplating and a somewhat spiky silhouette, yet i never see people say it should be Dragon/Dark instead of just pure Dragon. then again, it doesn't necessarily give off "evil" vibes. Luxray being protective of its young and using its x-ray vision to scout out for anything that may be dangerous to them, as opposed to using it to stalk or hunt people and other pokémon when they're defenseless at night, so i hesitate to call it evil either. Mabosstiff is based off a mafia boss and Zoroark is a trickster that intentionally uses illusions to fool everyone, while Luxray is a lynx with x-ray vision. they have similar designs, yes, but they are so far apart in terms of concept, and a pokémon's concept should have a significant impact on their typing rather than just their design.

[@123silverslash]

Umbreon has entries about how it literally glows, light =\= not dark

[@crabman8321]

I don't really care if it's dark or not, but I don't think the name counts against it, because an Electric/Dark type with part of its name derived from light could be like "the light in the dark"

[@sandy_nes31]

I would love Luxray being like a morally grey pokémon, being used against or by thiefs to cause mayhem It could maybe get dark from a regional form or mega evolution, because i personally just think this pokémon needs some buffs to it's electric type abilities

[@tangerinepaint3643]

i heard of giving it galvanize as an ability and double edge. Another idea I heard is giving it Strong Jaw to boost its existing biting moves. Both would be cool.

[@renecup7260]

Luxray needs more good physical electric moves than a dark type. If it ever gets a dark typing, a regional variant that would be dark/electric would be nice of getting a decent amount of physical moves,

[@king_of_rats_Monfernep]

We need Bolt Strike no only on Victini

[@tangerinepaint3643]

@@king_of_rats_Monfernep Pokerogue does that

[@ksoundkaiju9256]

I want a fire type Luxray that has thermal heat vision and straight up laser vision

[@tangerinepaint3643]

@@ksoundkaiju9256 Hey that reminded me of a more special-orientated Luxray that's fire/steel, maybe could fit for an Egypt-inspired region or something.

[@king_of_rats_Monfernep]

@@tangerinepaint3643 what be in pokeRoque, what stay only in pokeRoque Im joking.

[@castform7]

I used a shiny Luxray in my second playthrough of Arceus. It was basically my starter (especially when I benched my actual starter). A salute to you Banana. You looked really nice in yellow.

[@Arthion]

I think the main point is people want Luxray to stand out more. Being a physical mono electric type with unimpressive speed really doesn't do it any favors in viability and having a 2nd STAB would help slightly at least.

[@derek5310]

Just because it's black doesn't mean it has to be dark type. Have we not ever heard of a Pokemon called Zekrom? Heck even pyukumuku

Or Zebstrika.

[@onebear6504]

Unown

[@_krock-tu_]

Everyone strives to be the Snakewood dev, where Luxray is electric/dark, which only serves to hinder it greatly.

[@mathewricafrente5984]

That typing isn't going to help Luxray if it's **SLOW**

[@aaleven4728]

no it doesn't why do people keep bringing it that? it's not a defensive pokemon so it doesn't care about the extra weaknesses but does care about having a free entry point against psychic and ghost types and a highly spammable stab

[@dragoniteknight4043]

@@aaleven4728 Luxray has a base speed stat of 70 - which is painfully slow even when it was introduced. Luxray is not fast, and is never going to outspeed the vast majority of pokemon. This means it has to take a hit to hit back - and with bad defensive stats it can usually only take 1 neutral attack. It's already weak to ground, being weak to both fighting and fairy (Two other incredibly popular, powerful and available types!) would hinder it even more. You could argue that with Sticky Webs set up an electric/dark Luxray could do better, but that's just cope. (Plus Great Tusk exists). What Luxray REALLY needs is a higher speed stat so it can take advantage of it's Guts ability.

[@aaleven4728]

@@dragoniteknight4043 Not even the biggest of dex cuts could make Luxray good in OU so stuff like Great Tusk is completely out of question, I'm mostly talking about stuff like pre-DLC lower tiers such as ZU where its stats were better, a Dark type would be great as lower tiers are flooded with Psychic types and it would help Agility sets against Prankster Pokémon and in a pinch it can absorb a Knock Off after activating Guts, furthermore Crunch is a much more spammable stab than Wild Charge which has an immunity and doesn't chip you down with recoil the speed buff would be great tho

[@markten2430]

as a kid, I just saw that it had 2 strong dark moves that aren't status moves so I just assumed it's a dark type

[@randomunovafan2787]

I didn’t initially think it was dark, but once it was pointed out to me, I agreed that I wanted it to be dark type simply because it would at least get one good physical stab move, and dark fits the best for me as the dark fur and emphasis on its great eyesight makes it seem like a nocturnal hunter, a common theme among dark types

[@darkhorizonstudios3014]

Luxray makes sense to not be a dark type since it’s not described as being evil or malicious, but its eyes do look evil even if they have something to do with x-ray vision. Combined with the spiky fur, its appearance always made Luxray look dangerous and something that would be a villainous character’s main Pokémon. That’s the reason I’ve occasionally mistook it for being a dark type, even though pure electric is more logical when you look beyond its scary appearance.

[@LaprasTrainerLiam]

Thanks for being more understanding towards one of my favorite Pokemon Gator. I see sooooo many people complaining about how Luxray should have been Dark Type over the years it's been driving me nuts. And your video is pretty on point my own thoughts. It's also like I always say, 'Just because something has black in it's color scheme or design, doesn't mean it should be a Dark Type.' Plus, Black doesn't always equal evil. Need I remind people of Batman & Spawn? They have dark designs, yet they ain't evil characters. Plus, the Pokedex brings up nothing about it being malicious and stuff, along with the Dark Moves it does get being in line with other Pokemon just getting it for having a big jaw, shows that Dark wouldn't really fit it. A better Pokemon getting the dark type, especially since it gains it via Mega Evolution is Gyarados, since it's consistently been shown to be dangerous in the entire Pokemon series at times. So yeah, thanks for making this video Gator.

[@h4ppyp3an4buter6]

its not just the dark fur, it looks like an agressive pokemon and the bright yellow and red eyes contributes to it too, and about the pokedex thing, like its all about ''it can see trought walls oooo'' dont you think thats like that beacause it has no space for more personallity? like i can create some bulshit dex dark type dex entry right now and slap on it and no one would say it doenst make sense im not saying they NEED to change luxray typing i think its okay the way it is but you cant say it being dark type it doesnt make sense

[@jgbcreations9368]

@@h4ppyp3an4buter6 While you are correct about how Luxray looks, and I'll even meet you halfway in saying that it should have dark type moves because of it *and it does* (Snarl, Crunch/Bite, and Fake Tears are examples) that doesn't mean it should be *dark TYPE* outright. Look at Flygon. It's green, it's pre-evolved forms are bug-like, it looks a little bug-like itself, and yet it knows very few bug type moves and is still a respectable dragon type pokemon.

[@LaprasTrainerLiam]

@@jgbcreations9368 Most of those moves are taught through TM's/Breeding/Move Tutors though... As in... it can't learn them itself. Plus, the Black Fur comes from one of it's other inspirations, Black Panthers.

[@ShadowKaiserin]

It's name is a combination of Lux, which means LIGHT and X-ray. It's the opposite of a dark type!

[@hanizkay]

That's like saying nidoqueen water type bro

[@tangerinepaint3643]

This tbh

[@fifthdominion]

The only reason it should be a dark type is because the whole line, even Shinx, are aggressive as hell in Arceus. Seriously Shinx is as aggressive as Paras and tried to kill me so many times lol. Though I'd rather they fix its statline or give it better moves than give it dark for real

[@cannabishornliu6119]

Luxray for me feels like an additional starter Pokémon in Sinnoh for the electric type.

[@tangerinepaint3643]

Same tbh, with that 523 BST being barely below Torterra’s 525.

[@IsohelXX]

The real question should be why in the f Luxray doesn't have Friks as his ability, it's litterally called "Unobstructed vision" in Japanese???

[@TaLeng2023]

Frisk is kinda bad though. Maybe Infiltrator instead, in the sense that they can't hide from you so you always find them through screens and stuff?

[@IsohelXX]

@@TaLeng2023 Not every change needs to have competitive viability on mind, changes for the sake of flavor or lore are cool as well

[@NightSkyNyx]

@@TaLeng2023 Agreed. Open team sheets are a thing in VGC (not that anyone is ever going to use Luxray in VGC but still) and in Smogon singles, you can reasonably make an educated guess on what your opponent's items are most of the time (again, not that anyone would ever use Luxray but you get the point), so Frisk is a pretty useless ability. I'd replace rivalry with infiltrator as well, that way it can still keep intimidate and guts which are actually good.

[@tangerinepaint3643]

@@IsohelXX Why not both?

[@sveipr]

While I don't personally think Luxray should have been a dark type, I always got the vibe that Luxray was a nocturnal pokemon for some reason, and having a large cat skulking/hunting at night I could see as a dark type.

[@AlecEburhard]

I’m actually hoping that if we get a future region set in a Scandinavian-like place we get a regional variant that’s Electric and Ice type

[@Markus2E5I6]

Its shape and body also come off as very aggressive and predator-y. Also has sharp edges like other darktypes you showed

[@zinzolin14]

Aggression and predatory behavior are regular animal traits a lot of Pokémon have, Dark-type or not. You see this in a lot of big apex predator-like Pokémon like Staraptor. Luxray being based off a hunting animal justifies this.

[@Markus2E5I6]

@@zinzolin14 that combined with the dark theme just makes it look like a dark type. Staraptor whilst looking liking a predator doesn't have that sort of mean/aggressive look.

[@peculiarityenjoyer2053]

I guess Luxray shouldn't be/ doesnt need to be dark type, but I believe there is way more to it than just "black=dark". Black is used a lot on dark types because of... obvious reasons, just like fairys are pink, or water types blue, or fire types red/orange, or plant types green. Spiky is often used to represent evil/dangerous, also used a lot on dark type designs. Luxray has an angry looking face, also again often used to represent evil/dangerous, used a lot on dark type designs. Also there is the whole black cat = bad luck/death myth, or simply people often thinking of cats as mischievous/evil creatures even if just as a joke most of the time, and the red eyes also often used to represent evil. I honestly believe Luxray is so close to being dark that making a dark type variant of Luxray wouldn't even work, cause it's just like a little tiny detail on design and one "dark" line in a pokedex away from being a dark type.

[@Axecon1]

I never got "Dark" type vibes from Luxury, but I totally thought Glalie was part-dark type!

[@h4ppyp3an4buter6]

bruh, its litterally the same thing, if glalie was a dark tpe luxray would be too, why glalie its a dark type? beacause it can learn crunch and has a big mouth? beacause it has black accents and a mean face?.... where did i see that before.... hmmmm, i get what youre saying with glalie, the luxray talk its kinda old, we could talk about other pokemon i know but u cant just change your opnion like that because its cool to say luxray should not be a dark tpe when your other example its literally the same thing-

[@tangerinepaint3643]

If anything Glalie looks more like it’d be part Rock, especially based on its dex entry in Ruby. Yes I am aware it would make it even more shit than it already is

[@Axecon1]

​@@h4ppyp3an4buter6 Glalie's always been a counterpart to its split evolution Froslass, which is ice-ghost, and dark is usually seen as a counter/opposite to ghost types. Plus recently Glalie has been the main Pokemon of the anime's new evil admin Coral. So there's precedent for darkness about this Pokemon and you can see why it can be easily mistaken as so. And it does kinda look like a sentient Jason Voorhees hockey mask too. On contrary, Luxury has not really been associated with any Dark type activity as proven by evidence in the video.

[@BeanoNintendo]

I think it's more than just being black though. It's the spiky hair and bloodshot red eyes. It kinda looks like Shadow The Hedgehog in Pokémon form and that's the most Dark type thing I can imagine.

[@KKHell]

It has the same color palette as Mephiles. But honestly i don't care if this blue lion(?) is dark type or not, still dislike it regardless

[@ShayTheValiant]

I found a shiny Shinx on the very first day Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl were released and used it on my team all the way to the League.

[@maguirebentz797]

I also think it’s the eyes and facial expression, especially with bite and crunch as the main coverage it gets from level up.

[@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094]

If luxray should be a dark/electric type, then Kanto rapidash should be a fire/fairy type post G6, but then again, rapidash *is* a unicorn.

[@SatireGod]

If anything I always thought psychic would be the better potential secondary type for luxray, since its motif centres around having an extra sensory ability and its name comes from “lux” meaning light and of course X-ray being a medical device, eyes are also a common motif of psychic abilities and powers. Of course Electric is the best type for luxray, but why do people think it should be a dark type… LUX means LIGHT, the OPPOSITE of dark

[@CocoThunder568]

The argument for luxray being dark type because of the fur should make the same argument to make kantonian Rattata poison type because it's purple.

[@BJGvideos]

It's funny how you say that having black fur isn't enough to make it a dark type but then say that having a yellow shiny drives home that it's an electric type

One is used as an entire argument, the other is an enhancement.

[@BJGvideos]

It's just funny is all

[@Mattcreeper]

Figthing type Zeraora when?

[@Cool_Kid95]

It's NOT part fighting?!

[@KKHell]

Why tf do people want Zeraora to be part fighting? Asking for two reasons - not every bipedal pokemon has to be fighting type and Zeraora is a "literally who" mon

[@Mattcreeper]

@@KKHell Big Fists/Paws with many Fighting type moves and there was no Electric/Fighting Pokémon until GENERATION 9 PAWMO/PAWMOT. Such an easy typing combination to make, like Electivire could've been as well some argue, but I think Zeraora fits the type really well, it's astonishing it took so long for an Electric/Fighting to be made

[@bubbykins4864]

​@@MattcreeperIron Hands, which actually has something resembling usage in the highly marketed VGC, having the converse type sequence: Am I a joke to you?

[@Mattcreeper]

@@bubbykins4864 yes, I know. It is a good Electric/Fighting that was realeased along side, ok, I just said Pawmo/Pawmot was the first one. Like scovillain was the first Grass/Fire even though Ogerpon fire mask or whatever was also introduced. Dex order. You have point, but at same time, my point was that it is baffling it took this long, 9 generations, to have at least one Electric/Fighting Pokémon

[@danielendless]

"It should be dark because black fur" Me: It looks like Shadow the Hedgehog so...

[@GreyVictory1510]

Part of why people think it is or at least should be Dark Type is, that one of it's most used moves is Crunch. And all the other Pokemon that mainly use Crunch with a similar Color scheme like Houndoom and Mightiana are also Dark Type. Its excellent eye sight can also be attributed to it being a nocturnal hunter. It at least looks like one. Coupled with it's more angry expression if you know nothing about this Pokemon besides it's Design.... Dark would be your guess, probably before guessing Electric. Also Dark Type would just make it a lot better, which is what people want because it is sadly kind of weak for a 3 stage non bug evolution.

[@matthew44able]

Inbefore a new regional form of Luxray gives it the Dark type in the future...

[@tangerinepaint3643]

Hey as long as it isn’t Sinnoh Luxray that becomes Electric/Dark I’m fine with that.

[@Pokewhisperer_Adrian]

I think luxray or even starting with luxio should be part psychic type. The reason why is because in many myths that surround the real-world lynx wild cat, the lynx is often seen with clairvoyant and even psychic powers if we look into native american mythology according to some tribes.

[@Pawbrew]

But luxrays design is not fitting to be psychic type. Most psychic types are either slightly off putting because it looks like they seen too much, are smart, or some other sci-fi stuff. Luxray is also more of a physical attacker than special. I understand where you are coming from (and think it’s a cool idea) it just doesn’t fit this mon in particular.

[@ds2465]

Luxray being dark type isn’t just about its black fur. For one, it is the combination of blue and black, that makes it feel like dark type, especially when most electric types are a bright yellow. It has a very menacing glare and stance. And since it almost always runs bite or crunch due to its lack of coverage, people even more associated it with dark type l.

[@rjd-kh8et]

While I don't think Luxray makes sense as a Dark-type, there are a couple Pokémon where I agree with the fans that a Pokémon should have a secondary type. In particular, why wasn't Zeraora the first Electric/Fighting-type Pokémon? It learns a lot of Fighting moves, its signature move is Plasma FISTS, and it would probably be more popular if it had a unique (at the time) type combo.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

Psychic seems like a more fitting type for Luxray than Dark ever would be.

[@JuliusBriggs]

I get why you call it reductive but to call it stupid is a bit far and entirely opinionated Pokemon being the same colour as their typing is an integral and well established part of visual Pokemon design philosophy and shouldn't be entirely disregarded I'm saying this as someone who doesn't give a toss whether or not this mid Pokemon is dark electric or pure electric at the end of the day it's GameFreak's decision

[@Mirawaru]

Imo Psychic fits it Cuz X rays are a kind of ESP in many popular media

[@Mudkip971]

It does not need the Dark Type

[@bubbykins4864]

The only other way it could be buffed without putting an excess amount of faith in Game Freak to have physical Electric moves that don't either A) lack distribution, or B) fucking suck, would be to give it Galvanize for STAB Facade.

[@takenname8053]

I could see Luxray being a Electric Normal

[@cannabishornliu6119]

For me it's Luxray's red eyes and angry look that makes it Dark type for me. Maybe if it looks slightly normal with white eyes maybe it wouldn't look that "Dark" to me!

[@miracilousmirica1994]

two types I feel like fit Luxray more and make more sense than Electric/Dark are Electric/Psychic and Electric/Fairy Electric/Psychic because of its whole x-ray vision and how I could easily imagine a Psychic Type doing something like that Electric/Fairy because its whole theme is light and Fairy is the closest thing we have to a true Light Type so that makes sense too for me

[@luckymcgirl9916]

How about giving Luxray the Psychic type? Its ability to see through walls goes well with that extrasensory vide.

[@Cool_Kid95]

It's not just the colorscheme, I think it's that mixed with evil ahh eyes and generally imposing and scary vibes it gives off. Just kinda fits thematically. NOT for the pre evos tho.

[@DCBiscuit]

I never once thought it should be a dark type. I kinda get the design, being an edgy… lion? Lynx? Have we ever officially agreed upon what it is?

[@KKHell]

Resembles a lion, but uses "lynx" as part of its name origin.

[@zetafish7347]

I feel like I've fallen out of love with Luxray after realizing how mid it is. Dude is a physical attacker but there's damn near no good physical electric moves. The best that it gets is Wild Charge which does recoil damage, and it only gets that gen 5 onwards. We need like a physical thunderbolt or something.

[@Socioromanticism]

If Bite'ers gets Crunch, Thunder Fang'ers should get... ...Plasma...Nom. Or whatever.

[@jo-ri-oh8950]

Bro's fate was sealed the moment Game Freak decided to make him a physical mono electric type attacker 💀

[@king_of_rats_Monfernep]

​@@jo-ri-oh8950Electrivire time

[@nickdentoom1173]

I feel like thats the problem with the Majority of the Physical attacking Electric type, especially pre-gen 7. This is why i hope they make Supercell Slam a lvl up move for Electric types it makes sense for (Electivre and Luxray primarily). Rock is essentially in the same boat, but then on the special side (With Power Gem being the only special Rock type move that is reliable).

[@king_of_rats_Monfernep]

@@nickdentoom1173 Electrivire actually have a Supercell Slam

[@123silverslash]

If exeggutor is a dragon type for unexplainable vibes based reasons then luxray can be a dark type for using underhanded tactics and hunting in the dark

[@123silverslash]

Like, I’m fully convinced not making it dark type was an oversight that they just never corrected for optics reasons

[@Missingno_Miner]

Alolan exeggutor is a dragon type because of the Coca, a dragon whose name shares its etymological origin with the word Coconut, as well as being a pun on dracaena trees. Which is to say that you're just wrong. Luxray has never been associated with underhanded tactics, and hunting in the dark is not something associated with any one typing. If anything, there's far more of a case to be made that it's X-ray vision associates it with the psychic type, because it's a vision-based power and eyes are associated with psychic abilities. The argument for Luxray being electric/dark type is weaker than the argument that Octilery should be water/fire type because it's red and learns flamethrower: At least the fire type makes sense thematically for a tank/artillery pokemon and flamethrower isn't like bite and crunch, which are slapped onto nearly every pokemon with fangs.

[@123silverslash]

@@Missingno_Miner you’re only proving my point. Something as loose and nebulous as “it’s a pun” is enough for a dragon typing. Hunting with x-ray vision in the dark where it has the advantage in literally all its Pokédex entries is 100% an underhanded tactic, what are you on?

[@supersaiyansalamence]

Luxray can easily be fixed with Strong Jaw

[@ArendAlphaEagle]

Nothing about Luxray's appearance insinuates "Dark type" to me outside of the black fur and intimidating appearance: especially since the Japanese name for the Dark type is the "Evil type", and there's literally NOTHING evil about Luxray, so I feel that whole thought of "Luxray should've been Dark type" is quite shallow and not well thought-out. If Luxray ever needed a secondary type, I've felt for YEARS that _Psychic_ would be much more fitting for it, considering that the x-ray eyes Luxray has (being similar to clairvoyance), and had been repeated to have MULTIPLE times. There hasn't been a lot of thing gameplay-wise that ties back to this bit of Poké Lore, so Luxray being Electric/Psychic would've done just that. Dark type would have absolutely nothing to do with the x-ray eyes.

[@KKHell]

But the "evil type" thing is its own can of worms because captured Pokemon take their morals from their trainers and special Dark type moves use, you know, actual darkness.

[@ArendAlphaEagle]

@@KKHell The thing about Pokémon taking morals from their Trainers is _entirely separate_ from which type a Pokémon is. Stunfisk is not a Water type either just because it commonly resides in bodies of water. And while it is true that _some_ Dark-type moves make use of actual darkness, a _vast majority_ of moves are about cheap shots, underhanded tactics, and other mean things. Nothing about Pursuit, Beat Up, Torment or Taunt insinuates literal darkness, and Night Slash, while seemingly named after darkness, is based on, and named in Japan after, Tsujigiri, a method used by samurai to test a new sword by waiting at a crossroad and ambushing an innocent passersby by striking and killing them.

[@KKHell]

@@ArendAlphaEagle Still doesn't mean the entire type is necessarily "evil" per se.

[@ArendAlphaEagle]

@@KKHell Look, the point is that Luxray does NOT resemble what this type is supposed to represent at all. Luxray is not known for using underhanded or pragmatic combat, Luxray doesn't behave like any kind of shady or evil person. People only say that Luxray should be Dark type JUST because it has black fur and looks intimidating, and THAT is shallow and not well thought-out because there's _a lot_ of Pokémon that have both traits but aren't Dark type at all.

[@NorthEevee]

Currently hunting a shiny Shinx for a friend who's getting Shining Pearl so we can both easily complete the pokédex. I'm already completing the game with both a shiny Bidoof(named God II) and Staraptor(named Birb) so I kinda want to pass on that special feeling you get when you complete the game with a shiny from the start. And don't worry, I'm using the Masuda method, I'm only losing a small amount of sanity :3

[@UntalentedBrick]

If luxray ever gets a regional form or a mega evo. Im hoping it has fairy typing instead of dark to play on its name.

[@Deathnotefan97]

It’s not just the color of its fur, it’s the general vibes Luxray gives off I’m not saying it _should_ be a dark type, but it still _feels_ like one

[@kylebrandon4556]

I actually started to use this pokemon more often

[@kyethememer9836]

Instead of becoming Electric/Dark I think it would be cool if Luxray got a regional variant where it drops electric type to become a different type. Mono dark type is of course the first one that comes to mind but I'm open to it becoming any mono or dual type.

[@emmett4733]

You are walking home alone after midnight when suddenly you feel like you’re being watched. When you look all around, you don’t see anything or anyone. You continue walking, but can’t escape the troubling sensation that something is wrong, although you don’t know what. Tension continues to build for an unknown danger until you spot a pair of glowing lights up ahead. You didn’t mean to, but you apparently stopped walking to stare at it for a moment, and then you notice that the lights are… getting bigger? Wait, no. Getting closer. You realize that the lights are actually eyes, belonging to a creature which seems to be cloaked by the night itself- except for its illuminated eyes, and the end of its long tail, which looks like a star. You try to back away, but your feet won’t budge. The fanged animal’s unblinking eyes begin to glow brighter, and then softer, then bright again, alternating slowly at first but gradually increasing in speed, leaving you transfixed and unable to look away as it stalks closer, until its eyes are flashing with the frequency and intensity of lightning. You want to scream, but you can’t make a sound. You can’t run, or move, or blink; you can do nothing but look, and wait, as the beast surges forward with claws outstretched, and your vision fills completely with that wonderful, hypnotic, terrifying light. …You remember nothing else, now or ever again. - twisting Luxray’s light theming to fit the dark type. :>

[@Illumisepoolist]

So what about the pokemon that actually IS Electric/Dark, Morpeko?

[@marshiboi2991]

Alot of people say that it isn't particularly violent or malicious, it shouldn't be dark type, but by that logic there are many Pokémon that shouldn't be Dark type. Stuntanks dex entries just talk about it being stinky, Pangoro while being aggressive doesn't put up with bullying, and Umbreon attacks using poison, and is about as threatning as Lux. My point being there really isn't a strong case for it being Dark, yet there isn't much of a case for it *not* being Dark type.

[@bubbykins4864]

Umbreon shouldn't be Dark type either; they should've committed to its original Poison typing and made Gyarados Dark type instead. Let's put it on Zebstrika, too, because it's based on zebras and zebras are assholes. If the oftentimes brutal social hierarchy of hyenas is justification enough for the Poochyena family, then why can't the zebras be _el tipo Siniestro?_

[@kirbymasterdeluxe]

I will say it's crazy that Electric/Dark is still an exclusive typing. On Morpeko.

[@PluckyInc]

probably could see it either electric/psychic or electric/fighting if they established the lore slightly. kind of assumed that the stripes behind its front legs were supposed to be straps and the black portions inherently works like Lead coverings. like maybe they can give it one of those combos as a regional form and simply state that it gained the ability to detect Aura flow, or veil itself with ESP powers? it'd probably adjust the fur around its head to magnify both it's X-ray/aura vision. or shield itself by standing strategically so that the black parts are perpendicular to its pray. having living in rugged conditions probably gives it more survivability., possibly longer or more solid coverings on its back legs?

[@Pawbrew]

They would also have to move it stats around a bit (for psychic type) because right now it is mostly a physical attacker, not special.

[@CertifiedSoapEater]

@@Pawbrewjust give it some physical psychic moves

[@Pawbrew]

@@CertifiedSoapEater there are THREE physical psychic moves that would fit / could be used by luxray. Two are dynamax only, one is a z-move, one is stantlers and its evolutions signature, heart stamp no longer exists, luxray has no blades. It could learn: psychic fangs, psycho cut (which could be a stretch), and zen headbutt. Two of the three psychic moves listed to be viable, can’t be learned by luxray currently.

[@CertifiedSoapEater]

@@Pawbrew psychic fangs, psycho cut (it has claws), and Zen headbutt could all work, just give it those moves and it would work

[@Pawbrew]

@@CertifiedSoapEater Three moves is not enough for an entire type

[@specific3600]

I dont think it will but it would be funny if they give luxray the light type if thats ever made a thing. Everything from the english name to the X-ray vision kinda makes sense for it to potentially be one

[@Blakewyattdunfee]

Even though I. The adventures comics, they live in prides which is something that only lions do.

[@JosephShemelewski]

The amount of pokemon I think have a dark type but aren't is quite a few

[@Makeitstorm]

I think luxrays the poopie type

[@starterking]

If I were to give luxray a second type that wasn't dark you would probably be normal. Would certainly have helped to be immune to Ghost type attacks against fantina because luxray crunch was what I'm pretty sure most people used in her fight and being immune to Ghost type moves would help that.

[@user-oh8oj5qh9u]

Absol isn't evil and it's dark type...

[@DevotedOgrim05]

Yes, but it uses dark powers to predict the bad events.

[@user-oh8oj5qh9u]

​@@DevotedOgrim05"dark powers"? where tf did you see that? It senses danger and warns people and also protects fields where is the dark/ evil part of this

[@dingola_]

Basicaly, absol can sense disasters and appear where they will occur to warn people, but rumors spread that absol itself was the cause of them, with made a lot of people start to hate them, so they ended up living deep into the montains probably far from civilization. My theory is that it ended up embracing the darkness of being seen like nothing but a sign of bad omen no matter what, so it domained these element as it's main one (a very edgy storyline for an very edgy pokemon)

[@staydetermined6717]

I thought staraptor was a fighting/flying probably because of the Mohawk I guess…and close combat Also would love to see a hack/fangame that makes it electric/normal “something dumb like that” if I recall correctly remember seeing a rom or whatever electric/ground could of been another poke tho

[@KuroBlitz]

Mega Luxray in Legends ZA should be Electric/Fairy with Pixilate and it should look like a sphinx.

[@zlectricute1906]

Honestly if I were to give Luxray a secondary type it would be Electric/Psychic, cause X-Ray vision can be seen as a psychic ability

[@eesev2017]

i’ve never met anyone who thought Luxray was a dark type and i don’t get how this is a thing people talk about ? Black fur? No one thought Seviper or Corviknight were dark types… like that’s just stupidity

[@luckyinky7849]

I agree, it shouldn't be Dark Type just because it looks like Shadow the hedgehog

[@ivanbluecool]

You don't get out much do you? This has been a talking point for at least a decade

[@JuliusBriggs]

@@ivanbluecool not only that but certain rom hacks have implemented this typing what I don't get either is why they think the black fur isn't a decent argument so many pokemon are coloured in their types designated colour; it's not a rule or prerequisite but it's definitely part of the design philosophy of pokemon I can see why people think it but at the same time it's fine either way

[@dljb7463]

I actually did think serviper was dark type....

[@ivanbluecool]

@@JuliusBriggs i mean he's literally a Mon that has dark type moves and his animal is one that hunts in the shadows or stealth. It makes sense why dark would work and even boost this mon as a whole since electric types arent good with just those moves since they get blitzed by ground

[@WhiffTheRubbishEngine1869]

I mean, a dark type is what it should have

[@harbour08]

I think its the fact we just had manetric which seems redundant since it isnt fast nor has good physical electric attacks

[@MidnightLugia24]

Fantastic video!! 👍 I'm also amongst those who feels like Luxray really doesn't need or have any good reason to be a Dark-type Pokémon, nor have I really understood how people are able to so strongly convince themselves that it is. But anyway, to answer your question regarding a secondary type for Luxray... I think I'd honestly go with Psychic-type to perhaps better support it's exceptional vision & agility, as well to give this interesting typing to a Pokémon other than Alolan Raichu.

[@jmurray1110]

Also shiny ku ray was my first hunt in scarlet and violet and I have the full line as shinies

[@tangerinepaint3643]

I think it would be very funny if there was a three-stage mono-Dark yellow feline as a counterpart to Luxray that being said I think an Ice/Electric regional variant that makes it a fast glass cannon would be cool.

[@Pawbrew]

For the glass cannon it could have a signature that hits like a truck but lowers both defences harshly

[@tangerinepaint3643]

@@Pawbrew I’m thinking what is basically a physical Ice-type Leaf Storm but instead of harshly lowering Special Attack it does what you said, Harshly lowering defenses. Alternatively both forms of Luxray + more Physical electrics could get a Electric-type clone of Close Combat.

[@misterzygarde6431]

I think Galvanize would work well with Luxray

[@Trainerwithoutname]

For people who think luxray should be dark type keep in mind that the dark type in Japanese is evil type and luxray on pokedex entries and for he's x-ray vision this doesn't make sense so yeah let our boi be a good guy please

[@jo-ri-oh8950]

Thank you

[@nickdentoom1173]

Electric/Psychic makes more sense, especially in context of its localization name as well Lux = Latin for Light (Most Psychic types are Light based) The Ray in its name stands for X-Ray, which you can also associate with the Psychic typing.

[@EinSilverRose]

It doesn't need to be part dark type. It needs more bulk and speed and way less special attack.

[@king_of_rats_Monfernep]

So bad that we have a REALLY GOOD PHYSICAL ELECTRIC TYPE MOVE It's Bolt Strike But it Victini's motion is almost completely signed

[@cannabishornliu6119]

If Absol is "Dark" type while not being evil or dark so can be Luxray. I don't know why GF didn't give regular Absol or not even Mega Absol the Fairy-Type.

[@tangerinepaint3643]

Absol is only Dark because people in the Pokémon universe think it’s evil. Almost no one thinks Luxray is evil.

[@GurrenPrime]

I mean, in defense of the dark type apologists, Luxray also has a very angry and menacing look on its face, so that might’ve contributed to the misconception in addition to the color scheme.

[@rogue1248]

Dude why we still having this argument??

[@reececollins9212]

I feel like people want to give it the dark type because they want it to be buffed because it’s slower than you think and it’s physical electric type moves aren’t good and that’s all it gets because until then, I’m gonna stick with Zebstrika dispute Luxray looking cooler

[@TwoHeadedMeerkat]

Being Dark-Type certainly helps it gameplay-wise, since it doesn't get any good physical Electric moves, and Crunch would be a fantastic STAB option, but yeah. Of all the Pokemon I believe should have an extra type like Golduck being Psychic, Samurott being Fighting, Hypno being Dark, or Snorlax being Poison, Luxray was never all that strong a contender for me. I _guess_ you could make an argument that Luxray seeing prey through walls is sort of like cheating, so Dark, but using one's own natural abilities to help hunt has never been an issue for other predator Pokemon. Hell, if anything, it has a stronger connection to being Psychic than Dark due to its unusual glowing eyes and being able to "predict" where its prey will be. It's not strong, but at least better than the alternative, so pure Electric is probably best.

[@CosmicCorviknight]

People shouldn't get too worked up by a Pokémon not being the type they think it should... unless we're talking about about how Psyduck should be Psychic type of course 🤪

[@flyingpigeon123]

But psyduck is blue not pink

[@zinzolin14]

​@@flyingpigeon123you mean Golduck? Psyduck is very much not blue 😅

[@flyingpigeon123]

@@zinzolin14 oh yes I got confused

[@jackrabbitping]

All of this stems from luxray having a badass design but not playing like one. It needs a revisit and a regional form perhaps, maybe a busted ability.

[@miimiiandco]

The pain and suffering of psychical electric types. The desire to make them Dark Type comes from that, as physical Dark Types are better than Psyical Electric types. Supercell Slam is a good start, but unfortunately Protect and Ground Types exists...

[@jmurray1110]

I mostly think it just need better physical ejectric moves That category is full of weak moves and signature moves thru can’t use and the dark type proponents just want stab crunch

[@oranqedemon]

also electric dark for luxray would just make it suck more, ive played my fair share of rom hacks and the dark typing doesnt do anything but make you weak to u turns and mach punches

[@zinzolin14]

If we have to follow the colour logic then Luxray should be Water/Dark type instead 😂

[@crylec6534]

You know who really deserved the dark typing? Gengar. Not gastly, not haunter. Gengar, it’s shown to be malicious at times in its Pokédex and learned dark moves just as much it learns ghost type moves naturally.

[@pity_me011]

wait Glalie isn’t a dark type!?

[@jacobseibert1635]

Why do people think it shouldnt? There are so many dark types that have nothing to do with the dark type- what makes sableye, skuntank, bisharp and incenaroar all dark types? Greninja is cannonically good and is a dark type, like what does it even mean

[@peirrimcinnis5754]

Can we at least agree that zeraora should be electric/fighting? It literally has more fighting moves than most fighting types.

[@nevermind1890]

But can we talk about how Mismagius should be fairy type?