Dark Watchers of California - Haunted Cliffside and Coastal Paranormal Encounters | EXPANSION 4.8

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I would Uber and pick up passangers in the Malibu area. In the canyons, some of the passengers that live in those areas would tell me that houses would be built on top of Indian Burial Grounds. The passenger I talked to about it said his house was built over an Indian Burial Ground. He would see and hear really interesting and weird things.

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That's extremely believable..stay safe & safe driving out there.

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[@a.walters123]

The intro to this with the description of the California coast… was AWESOME!!! Gave me chills. Well done guys 👏

[@TianZhaoHeavenlyFortune]

Send a drone over there and then have the drone try to approach the dark watcher and if they disappear at least you’ll have video footage of that and either way it’ll be awesome to have

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

YES!😂 I 100% Love this idea!

[@DanielFrost79]

Video would be awesome. BUT.. it would still be 'debunked' by nonbelievers because this just cant be real. I've seen things, i know stuff like this is real.

[@KajunMs39]

"They", are aware of our technology and will not allow "themselves ", to be "seen". That's why it's never been caught on camera.

[@georgiepeorgie1234]

My neck of the woods, I live in SantaPaula in Ventura County just south of Ojai, the topa topa mountains our my view when I shave every morning. The Chumash have always said to us the these mountains are sacred and were he was telling the story there's also the Char man and the Billy washer aka Goat man. The S. lucia mts are beautiful and scary I've seen some weird things out of the corner of my eyes

[@QEsposito510]

@@georgiepeorgie1234I’m on the northern end in Monterey. Have been camping in Big Sur on down to the inland end of the Santa Lucias for the last 20+ years. I’ve also seen some really weird stuff but not what I’d chalk up to dark watchers. I’d actually be interested in copping a drone to do some flights and videos.

[@unterdessen8822]

19:57 Brocken means "big lump" or in this specific case "big boulder" in German. When you lift your growing child or an unexpectedly heavy dog, for example, you could say, "Wow, what a brocken!" to indicate that they're more massive than you thought they'd be. If you throw up and get to see some of your lunch coming back in a still mostly solid form, that's a "small brocken". Don't try that at home ☝ THE Brocken is the tallest mountain in the Harz range in central Germany. It's often misty there, and it has some weird natural lighting. The giant Brocken spectre is essentially a person's own shadow appearing in front of them, super enlarged by the water droplets of the mist. It's so common, that depending on the local weather you can accurately predict that you're going to see it.

[@GhostCrowBrother]

"Knock it off, quit having fun!" 😂 I choked on my drink.

[@redwoodrebelgirl3010]

I lived 22 years in Humboldt, on the Coast-- in the Coast Redwood Forest, with the Magical, Ancient Mountains to the East, & Beautiful Mother Pacific, with Her Giant, Ancient Stones, to the West. Never saw "Dark Watchers", but had three Sasquatch encounters of which I was clearly, explicitly AWARE. Once I became aware of the Sounds & Signs, I realized that I had been surrounded by them all the time, whilst in the Forests & Mountains. It is definitely a Vortex, as is Mt. Shasta. Crazy cool experiences in Shasta. California is pure Beauty & Magic. I cannot wait to get back, as soon as I possibly can. 💗 California is my Home. Deep in the Ancient Coast Redwoods is the _only_ place where my Soul has ever felt Peace & belonging on this Earth. It's the only place where I can exhale, relax, & know that _EVERYTHING IS OK, & IS GOING TO BE OK._ I am away, tending to my widowed Father, at present, in a place I spent the bulk of my childhood & used to Love. But, nothing & nowhere compares to California. I'm feeling that Song from the 90s..." Nothing Compares To You". "Its been three years, six months, & eleven days since I went away..." 💔

[@goblinb]

The La Diablesse sound a lot like the British Isles entity the Glaistig. She is a water faerie that is part woman, part goat. She hides her goat-like legs under a long, flowing dress. She lures men to dance with her, then feeds on them like a vampire. She has a nice side though, she is kind to old people, and will take care of children, and sometimes help farmers by herding cattle.

[@47Jonesy]

I used to live in norcal. Was camping at panther beach when around 2 or 3 am, a whoooole procession line of tall figures in mostly black (some red) robes came out with torches, formed a circle where they faced each other and looked like they were chanting at a level too low for us to hear for about 20 minutes. Aside from the torches they had, the moon was VERY bright that night. They walked elegantly but they did walk. We were only like 100-150 feet away so we all saw them very clearly. it was so odd and we all thought we were witnessing a cult ritual so we just stayed still and quiet. Then, when they were done, they filed out like they had arrived. never heard of the dark watchers until literally today but yes, they are real and frequent the coastlines of northern california, at least around 18 years ago they did.

[@47Jonesy]

their robes looked like the ones with the pointy tips in the stills. They didnt float but they did move elgantly stiff. Couldnt make out any faces due to shadows but the robes looked...expensive. Like, the material was movie quality, not from the halloween store. Also, and it didnt strike me as anything other than odd, but there must have been some sort of equinox going on cuz less than an hour later, the tide rose up more than fifty feet and we had to grab our shit or get washed out to sea like our stupid tent did lol

[@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz]

@@47Jonesy Seen them at Coronado by the haunted Hotel Del and Naval Air Base, heard pigs squealing or being sacrificed. Saw them on Blacks Beach in La Jolla from the cliffs above, or what we assume were them cuz like you say they formed a circle of torches which then began to not look like torches anymore, and began doing impossible dances and physics defying shit like merging, becoming one, splitting out into various numbers and patterns and flipping before becoming one then all again. Crazy fkg shit goes on in this world, brudda, and we ruled over by psychopaths. Cheers, stay safe

[@QEsposito510]

Sounds very catholic. Flagellants (look it up) will have processions somewhat like what you described, albeit in Spain and Italy . They mostly have white robes, which is a very jarring sight for an American, but I’ve also seen them in red, black and green robes. I definitely recommend looking them up, it’s quite a scene.

[@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz]

@@QEsposito510 Lol, it’s not flagellants in the US

[@That_footballdude]

I live in Eastern Kentucky and there was a figure of a shadow man with a hat that everyone in my neighborhood saw and I haven't seen it 6 months and it fits all the dark watchers description exactly

[@daphne4983]

Hatman!

[@arsumbris6392]

I saw one of these "watchers" when I was a boy. I didn't know it was a local legend until years later. When I approached a man on a trail during a hike with my father, after we had separated and I had run far ahead on the path, I came upon a man dressed this way. At first, I noticed that he looked odd, but I grew up Catholic and was used to seeing priests sometimes dressed strangely (all in black formal robes). On this day it was overcast and there was fog, so you couldn't see things clearly unless you were standing close to them. As I approached this man that day, the closer I got, I was expecting to see his face and hair. I looked away at some point, I took my eyes off him until we were walking side-by-side, but when I looked up at him he seemed to be nothing but cloth. He certainly wasn't motionless the entire time, and seemed to walk the path with me. No features, just a shape, like when women wear a burka. I didn't think of it as frightening, he didn't give off any kind of threatening vibes, but I was also a child. I stared at him as we both walked along the path, noting that his clothes didn't seem to end at his neck. For all I know it could literally have been an actor dressed as one of these folk legends, playing a trick. I didn't know about it, so I missed out. In any case, I stopped to wait for my father, as the man walked ahead of me. We didn't see him on the path again for the rest of the day.

[@luisaguilar5343]

I live somewhat near SLO. As a Californian, I appreciate you guys getting the pronounciation of the towns correct. There is a Chumash casino nearby, where there are a lot of stories of people driving on the 154 and reporting some sort of witch in their rearview flying at them like chasing them. Not on a broom mind you, just flying and more like a banshee than the cartoonish witch description we all know. Once they reached a certain road marker, the entity would be gone when they checked their rearview again. There's a lot of wrecks that happen on that stretch of road. It's an even more local legend. It would be interesting to see what you guys can find on this. Back in the 90s, my dad drove that stretch of road, and to this day, he brings up a story about when he was in his 20s him and some friends were on that road at night. They were in an old van, his friends were passed out drunk in the back row. If you know, vans you know there are 3 rows, driver and copilot, 2nd row passengers, and 3rd row passengers near the back hatch. So no one was near my dad as he drove. He says that as soon as he reached the section of road that is supposedly haunted by that entity, he felt his seat belt being tugged hard from the section that goes across the waist. He said he thought it was his friends messing with him. Eventually, he got fed up with the repeated pulling, and he looked back to yell at them, but he realized they were all fast asleep and snoring in the 3rd row. He said he felt the hairs on his arms stand on end and a chill down his back. He drove faster, and when he hit the particular road marker where the entity disappeared, the pulling on his deatbelt stopped. When he got home, an owl flew down onto the ground and would not let him reach his front door. It would hoot at him, spread it's wings and charge at him. This must've been shortly before daybreak because he said the owl eventually flew away when it was getting lighter outside. He said not long after he decided to sell the van because the middle row floor randomly started developing massive wet spots, despite no one ever using or leaving any drinks in that row. He would put towels and carpet squares down to try and prevent/dry it off. Each time he would check, the top layer of carpet would be dry, the 3rd layer would be dry, but the middle layer would be soaking wet, dripping with a ton of water. It freaked him out, so he sold it.

[@jeanettedavis9471]

The horse legged lady might be the Native American deer lady. The following is from Wikipedia Deer Woman, sometimes known as the Deer Lady, is a spirit in Native American mythology whose associations and qualities vary, depending on situation and relationships. To women, children, and men who are respectful of women and children, she is associated with fertility and love. However, to those who have harmed women and children, she is vengeful and murderous, and known to lure these men to their deaths. She appears as either a beautiful young woman with deer feet or a deer.

[@saucemanslots]

I live in Hollister and have heard about that story. Always look at the hills to see anything.

[@domsugar9160]

Don’t do that cause after the first time I saw my encounter a couple years passed by and I kept looking and looking at that spot like if I wanted to see it again I don’t know if I wanted to see it that much that it just finally popped up again

[@auntie-angie-2112]

dunno why but the Watchers remind me of the Mystics in the movie The Dark Crystal. per Ancient Irish myth, the little people also came/come in gigantic size, so, not that much of a stretch. i live in the same mt range only further north. have seen no Watchers per se, but i have experienced what is called"the little people" numerous occasions - most always where the mts come straight up out of the ocean. it always begins with a sense of being watched. they tend to inhabit granite jumbles adjacent to hiking trails. whenever i hike i bring a bunch of brand new quarters in my pockets to gift to them.

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Great show! You guys should look into Mayong. The black magic capital of India. Lot of mystery there.

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Thanks for the tip, Ben! I’ll bookmark that! We have a listener from India who submitted some black magic stories. I believe they had someone practicing it in the family, and it lead to some pretty freaky accounts.

[@glendanison3064]

Looking at the animated thumbnail, I was reminded of something I heard about these watchers. A guy was hiking near one of these watchers, lit a cigarette and the watcher blew out smoke. It just may be a tall tale but I found it a bit humorous.

[@anthonystark7873]

Omg I literally wrote the exact same thing about that. I seen that and my mind went to that exact story how odd for us both to comment on that and I literally never looked at the screen when I listen to podcasts on KZbin

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That story about the cloven foot women makes a cameo in that show "Reservation Dogs" one episode around it. :)

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So adding to the convo towards the end..my teenage son told me today,that I'm really only an mpc in his game 😆 like,when he goes to school and stuff,he imagines I'm totally nonexistent. What the butt Yo!!! He's such a little sh*t..😄 Lol

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

😂 He is in for a rude awakening

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Part of the new lexicon of the youth. He called you a NPC which is short for Non-playable character. In videogames, there are things called Quests that are given by the NPCs to the main player.

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[@redwoodrebelgirl3010]

I have had many, many UFO & orb sightings, a Time Slip, & innumerable encounters with ghosts, demonic entities, & things I have no idea how to classify, in Magical Northern California. In addition to my Sasquatch encounters. California is the most fascinating, Beautiful, intriguing, & Magical place I've ever been. There are many Vortices of various kinds--very Magical, Beautiful, & of very, very differing kinds, in Northern California. Utah is the second most beautiful, Magical, & high-strangeness place I've ever been. Definitely a Vortex, or, actually, a CLUSTER of Vortices. But, outside of Southern Utah, in the red rock areas & Zions, it feels darker. California feels Lighter, more Loving, & far more Natural, & *_WHOLESOME,_* than does most of Utah. Southern Utah has great Beauty, & a more WHOLESOME, Natural, Light, & Loving Energy than does the rest of Utah. Definitely worth visiting & exploring. But, California is the most Love-, Light-, Life-filled, Wholesome, Magical, & heartbreakingly, breathtakingly, Majestically *_BEAUTIFUL_* place in the world . In my experience.

[@KajunMs39]

California is and was a magical place to be. Humans have destroyed its beauty is so many ways. I reside in California and been here for over 25years. It's changed. So sad to see the disregard of our lands here.

[@47Jonesy]

oh yeeeeah lol, the vortices. this guy knows✊️🤘

[@47Jonesy]

and move a little more north. it keeps getting more magical. kinda makes me wanna go fullhog alaska lol

[@amyd1281]

Thanks for the story guys

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Tricked ya! We are really excited to start season 5 Mathew! We've been growing on KZbin so we wanted to post something so people don't forget about us til the next season starts.

[@AAAAWWWWWWW]

Loved this episode! I've been living the past few years in San Luis Obispo, CA. I want to head over to the SLO Reservoir and look for dark watchers! The Big Sur drive where a lot of these are seen is a beautiful drive but something about it has always felt a bit creepy & ancient. I'll definitely be keeping my eyes open more when i'm driving around. Fun fact is that the 1990 movie Arachnophobia was filmed in Cambria (very cool creepy local beach town). After the movie wrapped I was told they released the non native Avondale spiders into the community so Cambria has tonsss of spiders. Yikes!!

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

😂 that is both awesome and terrifying. I loved Arachnophobia as a kid. Of course to this day I still can put on shoes without feeling inside for spiders first. Sounds like a beautiful area though! Glad to hear from a local 👊 Definitely let us know if you see anything strange!

[@redwoodrebelgirl3010]

That's *_HORRIFYING,_* & absolutely irresponsible, from an environmental perspective. California, & the City/Town ought to SUE the bastards who committed such an atrocity, & make them pay to eradicate an awful, *_INVASIVE SPECIES!!!_* Appalling & disgusting. And, terrifying to me!

[@lostgatica5855]

In the SLO area, we've always seen kinda weird stuff near edna valley and the inside back roads leading to Lopez lake. When driving there through late night, it just makes it more spookier.

[@AAAAWWWWWWW]

@@lostgatica5855 wWow that's creepy! I actually almost moved out to the Lopez Lake area but happy I moved to downtown SLO instead. Makes me want to take a night drive out there though! ha ha!

[@lostgatica5855]

@@AAAAWWWWWWW make a vlog the next time you're around, and then analyze the footage.

[@redwoodrebelgirl3010]

I'm in the Northeastern US now. There is a very dark, gothic, oppressive feeling here, even in _Southern_ New England. I can only imagine (& Intuitively See) how much more heavy, dark, oppressive, & intense it is, in places like Massachusetts. Though, Vermont feels Lighter, more Love-, Life-, Light-oriented, Natural, & Free than the rest of New England, for _SOME_ reason (a reason I cannot yet discern). I would be curious & grateful if you boys would do an exploration & exposé of New England, & *_WHAT IT IS_* that lurks here, & holds this area hostage, in terms of Energy, Nature, Light, Love, & Life. Something is _not right_ here--dark, oppressive, heavy, & dripping of Death. I can't get to the bottom of it so far...

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

Pretty interesting thoughts here. We've never been to that area of the country. Where exactly are you?

[@JMezzano]

That dark oppressive energy feeling etc in New England is the accent , Git in the Cah we goin ta the Pack

[@redwoodrebelgirl3010]

@@BeliefHolePodcast I am in NW New York. (I'm too concerned with privacy to be any more specific. ❤️)

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[@plaguemarine7767]

Its all in yer head

[@nomadsqd]

17:38-"Seen" Gardner? Are you sure it's not "Shawn"? :) Coming from another Sean called "Seen" his whole life.

[@BATM_Media]

This is the first time I've ever heard anyone talk about the fear that comes with staring off to the ocean at night. Where does that absolute dread come from? I've walked city streets alone in the middlenof the nights of walked in the forest with only moonlight to guide me and I've been very scared at times, but nothing like being on an isolated beach on a dark night and staring off into the abyss. Surely this terror must have inspired HP Lovecraft.

[@profetarmageddon]

Oh loved this episode especially the comercials

[@spilltheteaalloverme8810]

I moved to Northern California when I was 15 lived in the woods a lot, I am a total scaredy cat, thankfully never saw anything out of the ordinary but did hear strange noises occasionally

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I love y'all! It was a crazy long day at work so this is super exciting!!!

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Fancy Seeing You Here!

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[@SusanCrone22]

I'm a new subscriber and just finished watching your interview with Steve Stockton, which was outstanding! I live in Colorado but was born and raised in Northern California (Mendocino). The Big Sur area and surrounding mountains is etherally beautiful. Back in the 90s, I was camping in the Santa Lucia (I always pronounced it ch) Mountains. It was a beautiful, warm, summer evening. I glanced up to the mountain ridge to the west of our campsite. It was dusk and the sky had a light, purplish tinge. Way, way up on the top of this ridge, I saw a lone figure illuminated against the fading light. Abnormally tall, dressed all in black, wearing what looked like a cloak or duster and a wide brimmed black hat! This figure stood absolutely still, facing our campsite. I remember feeling a tightness in my stomach, which was soon followed by a nameless dread. I watched this figure for hours, it never moved and when the nearly full moon rose, I coukd see it quite clearly. I got bored a few times and did other things around camp but whenever I glanced up, it was there. I eventually fell asleep and at sunrise, the figure had vanished. I was very intrigued and did some research, which is when I discovered the Dark Watcher stories. To this day, I am absolutely convinced that is what I saw.

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

Fascinating and wonderfully written account. Thank you for sharing this!

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@@BeliefHolePodcast you are very welcome. I can't believe I just found your channel...the quality, graphics, the conversation and guests are outstanding are far beyond the usual KZbin dribble. 👋🤗

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[@supermom_831]

I have pictures from big sur and in the pictures you can see the watchers also face sculptures on the side of the mountain

[@ionathelle]

42:05 I'm sure Dark Watchers can't be explained by a Brocken specter and Glories.. 🙂 high in mountains I've seen this once: in winter, mountain was emerged in clouds, so sparkly ice crystals were everywhere, then shadow torso with glory rainbow appeared about 3m=10ft in front of me, slightly above me. It took me a second that I realized I'm looking at my own shadow, whole vision was incredibly wonderful and otherworldly, but there was no "presence" felt in that gray soft shadow. This Brocken-specter shadow appeared when I was turned down the slope towards the south and the sun, so my guess is that sunlight coming through the fog was reflected from snowy mountain slope behind me, casting this shadow inside the rainbow ball in front of me - that's also why it was not at once obvious I'm looking my own shadow, bc slope worked probably like a many mirrors for the light. Long ago I encountered two shadow people, and that was completely different, I felt piercing presence and that "shadow" was like a black void, much like dark watchers are described.

[@kathrynerickson8525]

No way!!!!! I had never seen anything about these but I have seen them. I went on a road trip with my kids up the coast of California. I had my car on autopilot and saw a HUGE person standing out there that scared the crap out of my kids and I. My Tesla screen was even showing a person in front of us. I had to stop to charge my car not long after seeing it and I RAN when plugging in my car. It didn’t move AT ALL! We never knew what the hell we saw up on those cliffs but wow!!!!

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

Wild story @kathrynerickson8525!

[@joeyv.9227]

Good work 👍 I n subscribing

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Thanks Joey. Glad you are digging the podcast!

[@ordoabchao1308]

Stoked for season 5. Love the content!

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Comin at ya Friday! Gonna be a fun one.

[@johnbennett8087]

Even your flops sound great 👍 keep it up boys

[@jakobfromthefence]

It’s Radagast. Waiting for his ship to Valinor.

[@briantomcollins]

We have Melon Heads here in CT as well. There are several states that have stories of ''Melon Heads''.

[@InTheBleakMidwinter666]

New sub here really like what you guys are doing im def hooked....

[@theeclipsedtruth]

Hey guys! 👋 omg that sounded like my friend D.A. in the intro..so cool! So weird! 😄 the weirder the better! Love your show as always ❤️

[@Jamie27372]

Gets better and better

[@nothingnobody6688]

Just found this channel 👍❤️ from Western Australia

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

Hello down under! 🙌

[@megzdubv2950]

That was definitely the same rock formation that overlooked the Pacific Coast from which the true to story docudrama Goonies came from!!! The old Fratelli hide out & 1 eyed Willie’s hidden ship…I highly recommend watching, but all jokes aside I love seeing ya guys covering everything that’s neither here nor there…keep it up guys

[@AliceBowie]

I used to live in big sur. It's awesome. Never saw dark watchers. There are condors, though.

[@AliceBowie]

Actually, I saw a ton of weird stuff in big sur. I worked at esalen. I definitely felt like I was being stalked at night. Always thought it was mountain lions. I was leaving a party once at around 5 or 6 am, and the girl I was with saw a guy wearing a cape, pleasuring himself in a cave we were walking by. I knew who it was, though.

[@surfthestreets86]

@@AliceBowie I heard " the watchers" is just an illusion or mirage. I did see some creepy a$$ $#!+ South of Santa Cruz tho.

[@sleepingninjaquiettime]

As someone who lives on a peninsula on the northern coast of California, I just have to say, Shadow people are pretty cool. Most the time.

[@wpizdets2640]

I tried to give one a hug but it dissapeared as I got close 😞

[@roberthalliwell7486]

When you guys were saying about the dark watchers just standing and staring etc, it reminded me of some of the stories told by the missing 411 that came back 🤔

[@anthonystark7873]

Is that shadow person who is blowing smoke. from a story you heard. I was listening to old episodes of expanded perspectives. I heard a story about someone having a cigarette and was looking up in the distance at the mountains and seen a shadow figure blow out smoke after he puffed on his cigarette it was like it did it for him like he was taking a breath for him. Exactly what you guys put in the video I immediately thought of the story soon as I seen it. Weird part is I didn't really pay attention to the story but it was like I just got done listening to it soon as I seen the smoke blow out and the Red eyes . love your channel great job on all your vids and always looking forward to New videos

[@anthonystark7873]

@glen danison

[@KristenKras]

I think Santa Lucia (see ah) is correct, if it is from Spanish origin, you don't put a "ch" sound on the c. If its Italian, then its Loocheeah (pronounciation). As for dark watchers, is it possible that Odin and some buddies are watching? I mean, some of the descriptions remind me of Odin. He has a staff. Also, there is the raven connection with him. He could be a shapeshifter but I can't confirm that in the lore.

[@Luludiabla]

I just wanted to say as a Chumash native we are not extinct lol (always find it so weird when you look up a lot of natives that are still around like we aren't anymore but that's a whole different subject)l and we do have tales of keepers of the land not sure about the hat thing in the tales it's not really mentioned more so just to not interfere with them in short. I would have to ask some family.

[@____K_____989]

Kinda like how they say the Mayans are extinct. Tell that to my great grandmother and my grandmother and my mother. 😂

[@Luludiabla]

⁠@@____K_____989 😂 I know it’s strange how current info tries to blot us all out as if we are some mysterious unknown species 😂

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

Definitely didn’t mean to imply you didn’t exist anymore 😬 my bad if it came off that way. Would love to hear any stories or lore you might want to share! - Jeremy

[@Luludiabla]

@@BeliefHolePodcast Oh I didn't mean you guys at all. I meant google or if you try to research anything it comes up that way unfortunately. Or for people who watch history channel and etc. I have been thinking about sending in some stories and lore in our family, I have just been nervous about it. 😅

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

@Luludiabla no need to be nervous! We’d love to hear any stories you have 😃🙌

[@gho5tspartan26yt]

0:26 bro Odin on Valheim did this to me when the game came to Xbox and I tripped because I forget about him from when I was on pc.

[@gypsyfox3285]

The Babadook is real. And painted in a cave. Amazing. 😮

[@ryanholloway5576]

This is good!!!

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

Cheers Ryan!!👊

[@harrisonharbers4577]

Dark watcher here. I just like wearing cool hats and hanging out at vistas. You guys be buggin.

[@ambers9210]

Local legend? I grew up in the county and I've never heard of it lol

[@curiositypiqued6573]

40:51 dr seuss' cat in the hat pmsl

[@Qwayeasn]

On the off chance that nobody has commented this before: The "Brocken" spectre is definitely called that because it was first recorded in the Brocken region, which is clearly stated in the German wikipedia page, but not in the english one unfortunately. So at best it's a whole spectre on a broken mountain, but even that is iffy since there are as much as 4 different theories as to why the mountain is called "Brocken". The root word could be "broke", which is the same as for "broken" in English, or "broch" which means swamp, which is appaerently also true for the region, or something else entirely.

[@V8DV]

I've seen them near black star canyon in orange county

[@anastash7900]

Numenorians. The Rangers!😃

[@janemesics2193]

I live in Point Arena, where the cliffs down to the sea are beautiful. Will keep my eyes open for these guys.

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

Let us know if you come across 'em, Jane! :)

[@Mike-tg7dj]

40:28 is a time stamp the image is Bill Cipher from Disney's Gravity Fall cable television show. He's a walking triangle with one eye.

[@ashstr2021]

This is my 3rd time listening to this episode. So fascinating

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

Glad you're diggin it, Ash! 👊

[@LynneWright]

The Watchers are shadows, it is a natural phenomenon, but really cool. Unfortunately, the area is closed due to landslides.

[@chelseadanico877]

So very awesome, interesting and informatively inspiring bonus episode, I so really liked and enjoyed it. Great job and well done, keep up the great work. I got a lot of much needed inspiration for the inciting incident of the opening scene for book 1 of the internet fiction series Mysteriarch Mythos I’m writing. My internet fiction series is lovecraftian horror and digital horror with psychological and parapsychological elements. I’m going to be creating entities for my story that are based on the dark watchers, they’ll be a lot more lovecraftian Eldritch horrors instead, I’m also creating entities for my story that will be inspired by the silent realm guardians in legend of Zelda skyward sword. Also for my story there’s going to be a sort of mirror dimension/silence dimension that is a mirrored version of the world that my story takes place in which is the non physical reality of the virtual internet/dreamscape universe of phantasmagoria.

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

Excellent Chelsea! We aim to please.

[@johnwesch5926]

Thank you

[@FreightTrain420]

The closing song is what Jay Dreamerz uses

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

We usually have a different song at the end of each episode, but I will say, i've seen Jay Dreamerz, and I like his style 🙌

[@arcanearcanum8926]

Any episodes with mermaids?!!!

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

Indeed we do Arcane Arcanum! It is in our extra content expansion episodes. expansion.beliefhole.com/real-mermaids-sirens-strange-seas/

[@arcanearcanum8926]

@@BeliefHolePodcast 🤩🤩🤩😁 goodie! ❤️

[@curiositypiqued6573]

19:59 actually "brocken-spectre" in english is BROKEN/CHUNKS Aand spectre is like poltergeist but means ghost (so in English "brockenspectre" is "broken/broken-iup/in chunks"-ghost(s)"

[@lobotomusprime1443]

Ninja Bumblebee! 🥷 🐝

[@zannadootothetenth]

Grate pictures

[@MeddlSchamane]

German listener here. "Brocken" is the german word for chunk.

[@Whomadegod]

Reminds me of the book The Night Land (1912), where there are silent eternal watchers observing the human race who alert other beings of our activity. Also my hometown's local rock station has a host who sounds exactly like John.

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

That does sound a lot like the Dark Watchers! Wonder if there was any influence there.

[@KajunMs39]

I'm sure they're extremely disappointed in us.😢

[@curiositypiqued6573]

The earliest ever documentation or literature on the dark watchers goes even further back beyond the native Americans ( pre-columbus times),etc im pretty sure

[@orirune3079]

I'd guess that the Brocken Spectre does account for some sightings, but not for anyone who has spent any time outdoors. I've seen that effect myself and it's immediately obvious that it's your own shadow, because it moves with you, and, well, it's just obvious. I think that it does really highlight the laziness that plagues a lot of debunkers - they will find something that vaguely seems similar to what is claimed, and then declare the case closed. Reminds me of a few years back when some videos of cities in the clouds were popping up, mainly on Chinese social media, and despite the videos being clearly CGI, websites the world over confidently stated that they were examples of "fata morgana" optical illusions. Even though they looked nothing whatsoever like a fata morgana which is blurry and close to the horizon.

[@rafaelcineasta]

That tale from the Antillas is just a demon helping Satan to get souls. Satan wants the destruction of the perfect creation of God, Human Being.

[@amberinthebox4462]

Is st. Lucia around Mt. Shasta?

[@00_runner]

Big Sur

[@dashrender9320]

Since you guys live in Ohio you could just go north to the beautiful state of Michigan. Nothing like Michigan where people from Ohio go on vacation .

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

I've not been there too much personally but Jeremy and Chris say its absolutely beautiful. They have some friends that they visit and its in some of more remote parts from what I understand. The friends actually saw a UFO out there!

[@KMFDM242]

im so surprised to have heard a story from my city

[@Unknown-UpTown-Resident]

If the dark watchers were just ur own shadow reflecting on the fog, then wouldn't it move when u moved? It wouldn't just stay still. Whoever came up with that is really reaching.

[@curiositypiqued6573]

21:13 why is she a "lame" friend??? Id say iys him trying to get her to drive BACK TO DANGER (and potential supernatural danger/potential paranormal enemies)....what a moron...plus if she was tired and driving then thats extremely dangerous..strange how you make out its her thats the "lame" friend as opposed to whoever the main story protagonist was....the one driving was sensible

[@letssee5213]

Dr SEUSS the cat in the hat

[@Castlecoke]

It's a jar or basket. It's not a hat.

[@daxterrack]

❤️ loveee

[@nordoflobsquipple3121]

Assignation = secret rendezvous

[@Sharkdog11b]

Just like any rumor the more people talk about something the more the next person and next person and next person “hears” about it the more every… single… person adds their own version to make their story sound juuuuuust a little better then after the 20th person tells what they “heard” the other person said it’s now the opposite of what the first person said they saw.

[@MrsSantaM]

I live there. Now I’m a bit scared lol

[@tamathachandler5482]

Idk how you guys feel about the Bible, but the watchers are referenced 4 times there. Jeremiah 4:16, Daniel 4:3, Daniel 4:17, and Daniel 4:23. It doesn't sound like they're anything "holy" bc it mentions "a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven." It kind of makes it seem like they watch the human realm and cry out to God, or give messages to Him for some reason.

[@shamelessplace11]

Unfortunately if there is no 4k video or clear non blurry photos... IT DIDN'T HAPPEN...

[@Gh0zT-777]

Lmao the fact a hummingbird flew close by he thought some1 was shooting arrows at him sent me......human imagination is wild

[@scottbunn1222]

Let's goooo

[@paulandrew4820]

Holy SHIT KICKBOY FACE! LA LEGEND if it’s him?

[@ThatOddChickenHippie]

I gotta stop watchin yall when im stoned. My parinoia is hitting hard now!

[@marginbuu212]

La Diablesse must be so lonely and disappointed these days with so many sigma males waking up to "the game". Stay strong gentlemen.

[@BeliefHolePodcast]

lol yes, the less dudes La Diablesse is kicking off cliffs, the better 😂

[@RepublicTrooper125]

Organization 13!

[@ArmyVet82ndAbn]

Brocken spectre

[@nancyM1313]

✌🏼🤗