SHOULD YOU BUY THE ZOOM H4 ESSENTIAL?

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@ericmpena
@ericmpena 9 ай бұрын
As someone with very minimal recording experience, I feel that the H4 Essentials is straight forward and easy to get going. This is my first Zoom product, and I was able to mess around with the settings enough to get an audio quality that far exceeds my previous setup in just a matter of minutes. As a customer who wanted something simple, this is great!
@annekedebruyn7797
@annekedebruyn7797 11 ай бұрын
Well. At least it doesn't have that terrible coating Zoom used to give a rubber-like feel which turns into a sticky-glue like mess after a few years. So that's good to see.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
lol...I liked the finish...never had it turn bad on me though...lol
@Kitakueigo
@Kitakueigo 11 ай бұрын
Yes, my original H6 is gross and sticky 🤮 but it’s a workhorse 😅
@annekedebruyn7797
@annekedebruyn7797 11 ай бұрын
@@Kitakueigo I cleaned off with alcohol wipes. Now it feels like the good old Zoom plastic all around!
@Kitakueigo
@Kitakueigo 11 ай бұрын
@@annekedebruyn7797 I tried using ethanol and it didn't seem to work well. I suppose if I had an hour to blow, I could do it but after 2 minutes of trying, it wasn't coming off.😓
@annekedebruyn7797
@annekedebruyn7797 11 ай бұрын
@@Kitakueigo Ohb yeah I spend nearly 4 hours of slowly scrubbing it off. Hahhaha
@AskJoe
@AskJoe 11 ай бұрын
Although I've learned to improve my gain settings over the years, I think the 32-bit float is definitely a strong enough reason for new creators to consider one of the Essential line. Even the pros make mistakes from time to time and unless they have a backup track with alternate gain settings, it's great to know you can recover just about anything if you get a sudden increase or decrease in volume.
@simonwilkinson2294
@simonwilkinson2294 5 ай бұрын
The old H6 has a backup track option. I still think its best to try and get the levels right in the first place.
@AskJoe
@AskJoe 5 ай бұрын
@@simonwilkinson2294 Absolutely, but the key here is their target audience is likely content creators, not professional audio crews, so it simplifies their workflow. The nice thing is those who want to set gains still can do it, but those who are likely to mess it up can eliminate that step and know for sure they captured something. The funny thing is there are still plenty of ways to mess things up by skipping that step. Part of setting up gain is simply ensuring they have the right microphone plugged in, and that it's positioned to get a decent signal in the first place. Skipping that step means that although they can boost the gain in post, it's worthless if they didn't pick the right mic type and position it well. Although they can raise or lower it in post, it won't mean anything if they're to far away, or popping the capsules with plosives, picking up noise like wind, or recording something outside the mics pressure range. You can't stand next to a four foot speaker and think that the 32-bit float will lower that gain if it's pushing harder than the capsule can handle.
@seanphillips9121
@seanphillips9121 11 ай бұрын
OK, so I came across this video about a half day after I ordered it on B&H (lol me), and of course I was almost instantly regretting my lack of research on this model (long story short: I've been meaning to get a Zoom recorder for awhile now,; I keep finding workarounds when I need them; another need presents itself in a few days; so I thought I would just pull the trigger on one of the newer models)... My main concern was that was going to be a dumbed down version of the H4n and the color screen and 32-bit float were just gimmicks. After working with it for a few days and testing a few things, boy was I wrong. I think the limitation of this review is that it compares this to the H4n within the framework of generational improvement... what it should be asking is, who is this model for. As I see it, sure the H4 Essential is "a stripped down version of the feature-rich H4n" but it doesn't need all of those features. Basically, everything this machine records is in 32-bit floating point so there is no need for input gain pots. You simply normalize your tracks when you're done and export your files to 16 or 24-bit, or keep them at 32-bit float to process and edit in post... and this is exactly who this appears to be designed for: folks who are going to do all of their processing in post-production, not on the recorder. So, there's no need to have compressors, limiters, etc. on this machine. There's no need to send a single input source to record duplicate tracks for safety (i.e. at -3db or -6db in case of clipping) because it's all 32-bit float. You just need to concern yourself with proper mic placement, then go. The only truly dumbed down "feature" that I found a bit annoying is that there is no switch to select between mic/line level for the inputs... Instead, they are fixed based on the type of cable you connect to the inputs. For example, if you insert an XLR, it will automatically designate that input as mic level... and if you insert TRS, it will be line level. This is kind of bizarre thinking, and a bit limiting, but ok. Of course the very first real need I'm going to have for this thing is an event where I have to get a clean audio feed from a mixing board, and (you guessed it), they have a line level XLR output for me (lol)... so I had to buy a shorty balanced TRS/XLR cable. Other than that, this model is stripped down in a good way. The 32-bit floating point recording isn't just a feature, it's the basis for which this entire unit is designed around, and they have basically eliminated all of the stuff that is no longer necessary (and honestly is better done in post-production). I'm not a non-technical type of person who uses "easy mode" on anything, but now that I can visualize the workflow, this recorder makes very good sense... and it's a good thing too, because I kind of accidentally destroyed the box just trying to get this thing out, lol.
@dredoesstuffdds5029
@dredoesstuffdds5029 2 ай бұрын
Is there no way to override that input level setting? All of my audio cables are male xlr on the recorder side. Certainly not getting mic level signals.
@sta8hs13
@sta8hs13 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the nice entertaining review ;)
@seanphillips9121
@seanphillips9121 3 күн бұрын
@ Unfortunately no... they are fixed. I "splurged" and bought a pair of 3ft 1/4" TRS to XLR cables for $16 (you can get them for cheaper, but I wanted something a little more durable). Small price to pay and a nice little addition to my bag of tricks full of adapters, turnarounds, etc.).
@Fredo.heavyy
@Fredo.heavyy 11 ай бұрын
TLDR: skip this model and wait for the proper “PRO” refresh coming later this year. Thanks for the clear honest info 👍🏽
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
To be honest I cant confirm there IS a "pro" model coming...but if there wasnt...this would be the weirdest release in the history of releases
@frankboyer1490
@frankboyer1490 11 ай бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios I think it makes sense, especially since they're calling these "Essential" which is just another word for entry-level.
@seanphillips9121
@seanphillips9121 11 ай бұрын
I just got one a few days ago and thought I would regret it (I only learned that it was "stripped down" after I ordered it)... The fact that it's based on recording everything as 32-bit floating point (you can export as 24-bit or 16-bit) renders all of the bells and whistles useless anyway. It actually makes a lot of sense for someone whose workflow is to capture the best possible recording in the field and then do all of the processing on a computer (i.e. in a video project, etc.). I'm pleasantly surprised, and I now realize it's not dumbed down at all... see my post above that describes this better.
@frankboyer1490
@frankboyer1490 11 ай бұрын
@@seanphillips9121 It's not just the bells and whistles (the ones that would transfer to 32-bit float). It's also the build quality and preamps. If the sound quality suffers with the latter from the outset then I'm not interested. Apparently, the preamps on this line are either not very good or average at best. Have you done any testing with this?
@seanphillips9121
@seanphillips9121 11 ай бұрын
@@frankboyer1490 No, I have not done any "real" testing yet in a controlled environment... but in my initial "getting to know the unit" tests, I didn't find anything particularly bad with the preamps, though. My expectation is that these are going to be fine for field work, and mixing boards always have noise, so... ymmv. Also, I have used Zoom recorders in the past, but never have owned one, so my reference point is limited. Nonetheless, I would never use a field recorder as a replacement for studio recording anyway, so as long as it's not obnoxious or something that I can't cancel out with noise reduction in post, I'm good. We'll see as I put this thing through its paces, though.
@willburney5318
@willburney5318 7 ай бұрын
Journalists and podcasters don't need the amazing pre amps. They need something that can run and gun with and not get lost in the technical stuff. I'm pretty sure that's who really benefits from this recorder.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 7 ай бұрын
@willburney5318 you assume to speak for the journalists? Also this isn't an attempt to make you question the noise level of the preamps. It's to question crappy business practice that keeps releasing the same product without much in the way of an update Look at what Tascam did with the X6...perfect example of where this should all be going
@Gonejack
@Gonejack 10 ай бұрын
Dynamic mic are not very low self noise actually, I would suggest grab a RODE-NT1 which has a dBA under 10 for EIN test.
@davidhilderman
@davidhilderman 10 ай бұрын
Better than -120dB EIN makes sense for the XLR inputs but for the mics on the product, the mics have way more noise than will be added by the pre amps.
@markgreenwildlifeimages
@markgreenwildlifeimages 11 ай бұрын
I am looking for a recorder to do nature (birds forest sounds etc) is the noise floor good enough ?? or should i go for the F6 ? Cheers Mark
@Mr1Spring
@Mr1Spring 9 ай бұрын
I like to know that as well. Anyone have an answer?
@captteemo9133
@captteemo9133 5 ай бұрын
Any news? What have you gone with?
@markgreenwildlifeimages
@markgreenwildlifeimages 5 ай бұрын
@@captteemo9133 hi I pushed the boat out and got a zoom f8n pro ! While it was on offer on Amazon
@StandaloneVR
@StandaloneVR 11 ай бұрын
Hi can you make a self noise test between h1, h4, h6 with built in mics and line in please?
@ianl.9271
@ianl.9271 5 ай бұрын
The product with the better EIN - 127dBu (IHF-A) would be the Zoom M4 that is almost twice the price. Zoom knows very well what they are doing.
@thilogrimm7109
@thilogrimm7109 11 ай бұрын
Great and informative review. It´s so weird, that Zoom even uses better EIN pre-amps in the Podtrack P4 with -124 and F3 (which also has 32 bit-float) with -127
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
Yeah...gatekeepers on "entry level" gear is an older tactic everyone used to use on interfaces back in the day. Don't think this is gonna go well in the long run
@matango1979
@matango1979 2 ай бұрын
I bought an h5 a few months when it was discounted on the Italian Amazon for around 160 euros, which is between 170 and 180$.
@sciencesaves
@sciencesaves 10 ай бұрын
-120 is no big deal. even free plugins will clean that up with one click and make it sound great. Sure more expensive preamps would be nice, for sure, but $100 cheaper is also very nice
@jcody_parker
@jcody_parker 2 ай бұрын
When I plug into 1/4" TRS at the bottom from my mixer, the audio that's recorded is terribly clipped and super small waveform and quiet. It works fine when going to the 3.5mm line-in on the side. Not sure what the issue is or how to fix it. I bought this because it says it supports line-level input via 1/4" TRS Anyone have any suggestions?
@Ily-d5b
@Ily-d5b 9 ай бұрын
I've been recording for years using my phone as a way to preserve memories and this year I've decided to buy some proper tool for that purpose. And it is just crazy how outdated and cheap those devices are looking and how it is hard to choose the one that just do the job. I am totally new here, but that just doesn't make sense. Thanks for the video series, I guess I need to wait for those heroes who will bring some decent device to the market.
@pauwlenko
@pauwlenko 11 ай бұрын
Please tell which recorder is better for recording ambient sound while walking with a camera on a steadicam. Record the sounds of rain, crunching snow underfoot while walking. I tried the h1n zoom, but it seemed that it makes a lot of noise by itself, even in an empty room.
@eriksopracasa3449
@eriksopracasa3449 10 ай бұрын
What's The best between the H4 and the F3?
@sergeyu7427
@sergeyu7427 4 ай бұрын
tell me which cable do you use to connect to the DJ console, I mean the tip that you insert into the XLR or TRS recorder itself? For example, there is a REC OUT connector with a RCA connector on the remote control, i.e. a RCA in the remote control, and an XLR or TRS recorder ?
@kyleethekelt
@kyleethekelt 11 ай бұрын
Despite the accessibility, I think I'll plump for Centrance: way more money and only 24-bit, but pro build, great analogue quality with good old knobs and switches and excellent preamps.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
I gotta get my hands on one of those for a review!!
@MrHamit64
@MrHamit64 11 ай бұрын
Centerance? Have I been missing something? I don't recall this company. What's their stuff sound like?
@JoshLeRose
@JoshLeRose 2 ай бұрын
I feel like I’m a bit of the odd one out here interested in buying this. I’m a classically trained singer and I want to find a portable, convenient, high quality audio recorder that’s better than the built in microphone on my phone. Additionally. I would like to be able to plug this device into a camera down the road and be able to have high quality audio and higher quality video while being able to keep my phone free for recording clips for social media. I think, especially since it’s on sale for Cyber Monday, the H4Essential is perfect for me.
@HumDeeDrum
@HumDeeDrum 2 ай бұрын
Hi I just came across your video with my finger on the trigger to buy this. Can you recommend something comparable with better pre-amps? Thanks
@sumitino
@sumitino 10 ай бұрын
so, the older H4N Pro has better preamps than both the H4N and H4N Essential? Thanks for the reviews.
@isabellaalguacil
@isabellaalguacil 8 ай бұрын
It's kinda funny because when you dig into math, there is no need to rely on technology to determine your levels, is it a safety net? sure, but the technology in this recorder may not know what you are recording and for what purposes. Whether it's 32 bits or not, I think it is important not only to be mindful but also to have control over gain staging, especially when the preamps are 10 years old. I was considering purchasing this model to complement my Rode Wireless Pro mics, as they also record in 32-bit floating point, providing a backup of the recording at the same bit rate. However, I'm not that keen to risk $200 on an "auto gain staging" system...
@sweetsfiend209
@sweetsfiend209 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I had my eye on this, but decided to go with the original H6 instead (and save $20 at the same time). The preamps might be showing their age, but the price was just too good to pass up!
@SourojitBh
@SourojitBh 2 ай бұрын
Awesome review!
@Pissarrio
@Pissarrio 4 ай бұрын
what are your thought on the new zoom H1 XLR?
11 ай бұрын
If the preamp quality exceeds the rest of the recording electronics.. I dont see the need to upgrade if they do what they are designed to do.
@ShutTheMuckUp
@ShutTheMuckUp 11 ай бұрын
Mixing boards often use the same preamps generation after generation. If there's nothing wrong with them, there's no reason to waste money developing better ones...and even less reason for the consumer to buy "better" preamps when the old ones worked perfectly fine.
@jochisfx
@jochisfx 11 ай бұрын
The EIN -120 strikes again, hopefully the Pro versions will have better pre-amps for more $. Also the XY capsule doesn't give the option of 120° which I use all the time for ambience.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed!!
@MrHamit64
@MrHamit64 11 ай бұрын
Wait you can't spinn the new ones out like the ones that come even with the h8? Oh man come on guys.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
@@MrHamit64 nope
@matango1979
@matango1979 2 ай бұрын
How do the h4essential's preamps compare to the preamps of the h5? Also are the capsules made of plastic or metal?
@WildHorseProductions
@WildHorseProductions 10 ай бұрын
I own the H4n pro and I only use it periodically to record from the soundboard, can someone who's used other products explain why the pre-amps are considered bad on the h4n? Is there more noise?
@sasankh.6298
@sasankh.6298 2 ай бұрын
excuse me sir ... i wanted buy one of them but after i saw ur review im in doubt ... what is your offer for portable handy recorder
@crabbubbles1161
@crabbubbles1161 3 ай бұрын
So let's say you want a totally quiet recording rig....can you record direct into this with an amp modeler and or mixer output?
@ILLAILLS
@ILLAILLS 10 ай бұрын
I’m glad they gave it a usb C port vs micro usb
@VancouverMagic
@VancouverMagic 6 ай бұрын
Is there a "h4n Pro" vs "h4 Essential" video anywhere? I had the h4n Pro for about 3-4 years (no extended warranty), loved it, and used it so much that the Play button got pushed in. Living in Canada, there is no Zoom repair anywhere & they only allow a buy up/trade in for the h4 Essential. Before I do the buy up/trade in though, I want to make sure the Essential will be a good move on my part.
@Devinop
@Devinop 7 ай бұрын
Hi. Are you worked with Tascam Portracapture X8 or X6? What do you think about it in comparison of Zoom H Essential series?
@BenjaminKanarek
@BenjaminKanarek 4 ай бұрын
Hello! I would like to use it with my power bank. Can it be done? Thanks in Advance!
@martenhahn1045
@martenhahn1045 11 ай бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you. I was hoping to be able to replace my H4nPro with the H4 Essential. Now I'm not so sure anymore. (usecase: reporting, radio journalism) The old H4nPro has so many issues: screen, battery life, boot time, storage and last but not least pre-amp. I need to plug in an additional preamp (FetAmp) to operate my Sennheiser MD46 with the H4nPro. Apart from waiting for the potential pro series, what would you recommend? The Tascam Portacapture X6? Or in other words: Could you do a quick "H4 Essential vs Portacapture X6"? ;)
@absolutelyeverything
@absolutelyeverything 11 ай бұрын
How does this compare to the zoom f3? It seems like it’s equal or better in every regard and almost half the price. What’s up with that? Am I missing something?
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
F series recorders are considered "professional" gear with MUCH better specs. Not sure...as I haven't been hands on with one...but I highly doubt this is better than the F3
@absolutelyeverything
@absolutelyeverything 11 ай бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios other reviews I saw said that it has similar, if not the same, noise performance. I’m not sure how it would out-match this. Maybe battery performance? I guess TBD
@JLBA14
@JLBA14 11 ай бұрын
Would I be able to plug into a soundboard (to collect audio from an inhouse system) AND plug in a DJI wireless lav mic recorder into this for it to collect sound from the same source (sound board) just so i can transmit it as well directly to my camera using the dji mic? Essentially im getting one recording onto the zoom H4 and another feed from the dji mic which gets transmitted to my camera.
@seanphillips9121
@seanphillips9121 11 ай бұрын
If your wireless tx can plug into the 1/8" headphone/line out jack on the H4, I don't see why not... then again, if you're able to record nats of the PA directly from your camera (i.e. you're shooting in the same room/space) you would probably be better served to just have Premiere sync the scratch audio with the separate clean board feed in post. Adding in the wireless set to the signal chain would be an unnecessary step and puts you at risk of introducing more potential problems (battery, RF interference, latency, etc.).
@JLBA14
@JLBA14 11 ай бұрын
good point!! Thanks so much for the reply :) @@seanphillips9121
@rhread
@rhread 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review. I’m still using the Roland R-05 As my daily driver. I would like to go to 32 bit, but nothing has really peaked my interest from Zoom or its competitors plus my R-05 never disappoints.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
Yeah...I think this might be a great year for handheld recorders. Usually when someone breaks the water...all the companies try to out do each other... Fingers crossed!
@contemarcula
@contemarcula 10 ай бұрын
Zoom h4 essential or Zoom h5? I'd use it to record audio from mixer.
@bjnslc
@bjnslc 11 ай бұрын
I think you've seen through the "Essentials" marketing strategy.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
Lol...I am disappointed by the strategy
@zblanch2629
@zblanch2629 9 ай бұрын
Excellent information. Just subscribed to your channel. Would you consider this recorder a valid choice for recording class lectures? And is it compatible with a Mac/Mac mini? If not, can you offer any suggestions from the Zoom line...Thanks
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 9 ай бұрын
Yeah this would work fine
@zblanch2629
@zblanch2629 9 ай бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios If you had to choose between the H5 or the H4 essential, which one would you get? I primarily will use it for recording classes in small and large classrooms. Thank you for the quick reply by the way.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 9 ай бұрын
@zblanch2629 if ALL you are doing is that...just go with this. The H5 is FAR superior...but if you aren't handling it...or if you don't need all the extra utility of the H5...save your money.
@zblanch2629
@zblanch2629 9 ай бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios Thank you. Appreciate the information!!
@asertolentino9147
@asertolentino9147 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video. As someone who needs audio gear that talks, I was almost ready to start throwing money at them.
@AlbertTrepat
@AlbertTrepat 11 ай бұрын
So... I need one right now because of a job in May-June... I don't know a lot about audio... should I buy the H4N Pro or the H4 Essential? Thanks.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
If you don't know much about audio...this will probably be best for you
@AlbertTrepat
@AlbertTrepat 11 ай бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios I said 2 different options. When you say “this will be” what do you refer to?
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
@AlbertTrepat sorry...I was referring to the one in the video The essential series would be the best for you. Less of a learning curve
@moGear6253
@moGear6253 5 ай бұрын
im not teck at all just looking to record PRERECORDED backing track to it and plug it in to my PA For practice witch one would you subjest i want this to be totally portable in my BUS thank you
@Mr500music
@Mr500music 11 ай бұрын
Hi I have just come across your videos and love your opinions. I am totally blind and us e and LSP4, because it has accessibility built in. I was hoping to buy the H1 Essential, however, I am now thinking I should not. Do you know of any other voice recorder that has accessibility built in please? Keep up the great work. Cheers.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
Sadly no...but I wasn't horribly put off by the H4... Also...I still believe more is coming from Zoom this year...stary tuned! Also.. let me check around and see if there are more accessible options available
@Mr500music
@Mr500music 11 ай бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios Thank you so much.
@jim36251
@jim36251 11 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks for doing these videos, super helpful (and witty). You saved me from gushing bucks eagerly at Zoom. Can't believe they're using the same preamps. Your SM-58 test didn't sound so noisy to me, but my ears are shot. Seemed way better than the H1, no? But you were whispering way louder this time… I'm in a hurry for a recorder to use primarily as an interface for my antique Sony ECM-929LT powered stereo electret condenser mic. Thanks to you, I'll snatch up a prev-gen bargain. Should I get H4N Pro or H5/H6? I don't need XLR or other features. Just reasonably clear/quiet line-in results.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
I like the H5. As for my whispering...I did it differently each time to show variable results depending on use case. Glad my videos could help!!
@NatheChocolate
@NatheChocolate 8 ай бұрын
Hello my friend… If you had the option to choose between the Zoom H6 (2020) and the Zoom H4e, which one would you choose and why?
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 8 ай бұрын
H6. Because it's better in every single way possible.
@NatheChocolate
@NatheChocolate 8 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼
@hellounclesim
@hellounclesim 11 ай бұрын
By pro versions coming up, do you mean something like a H4N Essential Pro and H8 Essential? Or a new F series?
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
I explain it more in the H6 video coming up...but I think the older lineup...H4 H5 and H6 are getting retired. I have no inside knowledge...but it seems odd they released these with almost exact specs. That would make room for a new lineup
@hellounclesim
@hellounclesim 11 ай бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios Thanks! Looking forward to it! Yeah the pre-amps might be the exact same ones as before. They had to have EINs higher than -127dBu of the F-series, I guess.
@StandaloneVR
@StandaloneVR 11 ай бұрын
I was looking for better preamps too. Especially for H1 since it fits in a pocket.
@djmidnightwolf
@djmidnightwolf 11 ай бұрын
Yes. Why is Zoom stuck on 💩 pre-amps. Got rid of my UAC-232 finally because of this and other things. Zoom has made it hard to want to use them with the experiences I have had.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
Someone else is going to swoop in and take over the business...though I think there needs to be more competition in the handheld space. Most affordable options are really bad spec wise...kinda like how regular interfaces were a few years back. Perhaps we see another generation in these too??
@Mingzwest
@Mingzwest 3 ай бұрын
Hi DCS. Using H4essential. Recorded bunch of files on a San Disk. Imported some files to MacBookPro. All files still show on Disk when open on MacBook, but H4 saying no files on disk when open in H4. How to get files showing back on H4? Thanks much in advance.
@LookingForSounds
@LookingForSounds 11 ай бұрын
Not exactly a very encouraging start to this new series of recorders and I can only agree with your thoughts. Why TF would you not have far superior pre-amps after all this time ? The H series is old as dirt so these releases should be way better in every possible way, also the screen. Sure they feel the need to remain cheap and cheerful devices, but I'd much rather pay 150 bucks for the new H1e if it had quiet pre-amps, which lets face it, in 2024 it should. My F3 is so good, and there's no way they can't reconfigure the inner workings of that into a very good quality handheld.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
Yeah...clearly it is NOT an upgrade on the F3
@binizymberajj
@binizymberajj 9 ай бұрын
Hi, I just purchased H4 Essential when I transferred files on pc the audio levels are to low Also, the audio sounds like it is compressed. Am I doing something wrong? What do you recommend?
@NeungView
@NeungView 11 ай бұрын
What's the difference between that and the R4, with the exception of the two mics?
@thomasusheriii971
@thomasusheriii971 9 ай бұрын
Can this be turned up to record louder during a live stream?
@AllKapucino
@AllKapucino 11 ай бұрын
Its the same audio quality how on Zoom h4n pro? Or on Zoom just h4n? Tnx
@BadChizzle
@BadChizzle 11 ай бұрын
I have an older H4, I think it is… and lost some important recordings, because it has an odd control scheme. At least I’m gonna go with that, instead of blaming myself. Ha ha
@HeresMo
@HeresMo 8 ай бұрын
Essentials to me sounds like a basic line. I’m hoping they will release a new pro line too
@And-c7n
@And-c7n 11 ай бұрын
I think I would have released the next gen pro first and then see if the demand was there. With Rode having usb and wireless microphones Zoom isn't just competing in the markets of 10 years ago they are also competing against phones and ipads, which become mobile recorders with these mics, and a Rode wireless pro which is very versatile.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
How about the Rode Wireless series? Very easy to turn those into handhelds
@And-c7n
@And-c7n 11 ай бұрын
@DarkCornerStudios Rode have a stick you can mount the Rode wireless devices too for exactly that.
@ceruleansurfer
@ceruleansurfer 11 ай бұрын
Does the 32 bit float feature help keep an instrument signal through a cable from clipping? Or is that just for the condenser microphones? I'm considering getting one for my brother who is not tech savvy at all and want to get something he won't need to worry about clipping the audio. He's a bass player BTW. Thanks!
@seanphillips9121
@seanphillips9121 11 ай бұрын
I just got mine a couple of days ago. One thing I noticed is that it doesn't take passive instrument levels (e.g. electric guitar, bass)... just mic, mic + phantom, and line level. If the guitar/bass has passive pickups, you will have to run them through a stomp box or DI box to get line level to the Zoom recorder. BTW, this recorder doesn't have a switch to select between line/mic levels, it auto selects that based on the cable you insert into the inputs. For XLR, it sets it to Mic level; for TRS, it sets it to line. If you have a line level source (e.g. a mixer) and all you have is an XLR output, you'll have to adapt it to TRS to plug into the Zoom.
@ceruleansurfer
@ceruleansurfer 11 ай бұрын
Ahh, okay. I appreciate that info. I’ll have to look back at the R4 model and see if that’s the case for it as well. Thanks!
@seanphillips9121
@seanphillips9121 11 ай бұрын
@@ceruleansurfer Chances are your bass playing brother is running his signal through a compressor on a stomp box or multifx unit to his amp anyway. But even if he isn't, the 32-bit float should handle the wide dynamics of a dry signal, assuming he can get it to the recorder at line level somehow... but that's what I mean about how the H4 essential doesn't really need on-board processing like compressors or limiters. It's going to be very difficult to clip.
@TheElephants999
@TheElephants999 8 ай бұрын
can I record play along drumless, straight from zoom h4 recorder ?
@livestreamchicagoevents9987
@livestreamchicagoevents9987 11 ай бұрын
How long does it take to boot up (record function) ... does it still take 40 some seconds before the menu pops up like the older generation H4n ?
@seanphillips9121
@seanphillips9121 11 ай бұрын
Mine boots up in about 3 seconds (with a freshly formatted SD card).
@TheVirakahScale
@TheVirakahScale 10 ай бұрын
Everything it said "File List" I couldn't help but hear "VIolence!". It's sentien!
@imrin4059
@imrin4059 10 ай бұрын
Can i use lav mic rord my voicr in 32bit while at same time using the build in mic to reocrd exaust like moto vlogging? Is what multi track do right or do h1e have 2 track. Or do i even understand it right?
@imrin4059
@imrin4059 10 ай бұрын
Is it possible to use like dynamite stick to get better dound cus u said its bad amp
@MrHamit64
@MrHamit64 11 ай бұрын
I guess going threw the comments section I should ask. What pres did people want in these? I mean sure get away from the poopie pres of the original H4N. But the H4N Pro ones? I found them less hissy then even the original H6. This with Neal's NT1-A. Now Neal never went someware absolutely silent for the NT1-A. I didn't expect F pres myself. But H8 guts at least I did.
@JimKinkade
@JimKinkade 11 ай бұрын
ZOOM H5 still the King. 👑 Take the stupid on board mic off. Plug in a decent mic. Hold the H5 in one hand and the mic in the other. I call it nunchuck style.
@kristofer603
@kristofer603 11 ай бұрын
Can this be plugged into a Tascam SD24?
@MrHamit64
@MrHamit64 11 ай бұрын
Wait then so they sound like the older recorders? How do they compair to the H8? Sound wize I love the 8. The only thing with it is the touch screen.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
The H8 isn't included in the "older devices" It has better preamps
@rrreger
@rrreger 11 ай бұрын
My guess they will be releasing Pro versions of H4 and H6 with better preamps, at least I hope because Id love to have PCM-D100 like device that you can actually buy!
@bobbydunston7340
@bobbydunston7340 3 ай бұрын
I just bought it. 😢 It's my first recording device.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 ай бұрын
@@bobbydunston7340 lol...no shame there
@ImageBySteve
@ImageBySteve 11 ай бұрын
Does it take an ice age to boot up ???
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
About the same as the old ones
@livestreamchicagoevents9987
@livestreamchicagoevents9987 11 ай бұрын
I guess then I dont need to buy a new model ... I want boot up time to be under 5 seconds in run and gun situation. Rose Wireless Go ii in that sense comes in handy
@seanphillips9121
@seanphillips9121 11 ай бұрын
Mine boots in about 3 seconds with freshly formatted SD card (not sure how long if there are a ton of files on it, though)
@recordclassicalmusic
@recordclassicalmusic 7 ай бұрын
Ha haaa haaaaa! That's a great question! I forgot about that .
@SuperArchi2010
@SuperArchi2010 11 ай бұрын
HOW ARE YOU DOING THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEO ON YOUR YOURTUBE CHANNEL I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT ONE THINK I HAVE A ELECTRO MAGNETIC EXPOSURE FROM WORK ENVIRONMENT AND I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO MEASURE THIS IS THIS IS SAFE OR I WOULD NEED TO USE SOME SAFETY MEASURMENTS ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO RECORD IT - AND HAVE A JOURNAL OF HOW MUCH EVERY DAY AND WHAT TIMES I HAVE THIS EXPOSURE ON AROUND THE AREA WOULD YOU RECOMMEND ALSO SOME SPECTRUM ANAYLZER AS WELL CONNECTED TO A EM METER THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR FROM YOU BEST
@sr3d-microphones
@sr3d-microphones 11 ай бұрын
I read this in 32bit :O)
@pedromarquez114
@pedromarquez114 6 ай бұрын
I don’t know why would you consider buying these types of recorder when better preamps is what you want. Use a proper audio interface and mic for that. Those little recorders are not aimed for people that want amazing studio sound
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 6 ай бұрын
@pedromarquez114 quiet preamps aren't "studio sound" It's been over 10 years...and we know they have the tech capable of doing it...so why don't they?
@pedromarquez114
@pedromarquez114 6 ай бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios I guess you have a point. Great videos btw
@sendforacar9323
@sendforacar9323 2 ай бұрын
Why is pre-amps your main talking point. Most pre-amps use the same components across the board and have not vastly improved over the last ten years. And, the only true benefit for "better" pre-amps is more head room. How much more do you need from this unit? Can your ears truly tell a difference. I doubt it. And do we live in a world where gain staging is an issue anymore. I don't think so. Especially if you are not using plug-in.
@gaips
@gaips 11 ай бұрын
I hope Zoom makes a Zoom L8 32-bit mixer.
@Slingshot4FunTW
@Slingshot4FunTW 11 ай бұрын
wish comes with compreesor , and usb-c.
@TruthReviews
@TruthReviews 11 ай бұрын
Does the H6 Essential also have the old pre-amps?
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
Yes
@TruthReviews
@TruthReviews 11 ай бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios damn it. Was upgrading my zoom H6 and was expecting delivery of this tomorrow :-( odd how there’s no reviews of this out. Is it the same as the zoom H6 the preamps?
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
@TruthReviews yeah... All that aside...i really do think they will be releasing a pro lineup later this year. It only makes sense...this isn't a direct replacement for the older units
@TruthReviews
@TruthReviews 11 ай бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios very true. I may just reject delivery and stick with my H6 for now. Considering it hasn’t let me down once in all those years I have used it on a regular basis. Thank you for the video and replies 🙏
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 11 ай бұрын
@@TruthReviews Cheers and thanks for watching!!
@diegoisnotdead
@diegoisnotdead 9 ай бұрын
No Gain, No Pain? That’s new!!!
@eliedraiby1082
@eliedraiby1082 7 ай бұрын
Does anyone have battery problem with this thing ?
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 7 ай бұрын
@eliedraiby1082 what's the problem?
@gabrielknights
@gabrielknights 10 ай бұрын
I hate my life... I got the Zoom h8 last month ... =(
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 10 ай бұрын
That Zoom H8 is 10 times better than these
@gabrielknights
@gabrielknights 10 ай бұрын
Thank you... I trust your opinion alot.
@funtsittavaa2nd
@funtsittavaa2nd 11 ай бұрын
👍
@koalamusik
@koalamusik 4 ай бұрын
3:57 micro USB Cards? 😅
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 4 ай бұрын
speaking is hard...lol
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