Fender Player Plus...is It Really Worth the "Upgrade?"

[@Aloysius1966]

Not only is Darrell Braun the best looking man in Canada, he's the smartest. Clearly the Charvel is the value buy. Thanks Darrell.

[@DarrellBraunGuitar]

😂😂😂 Thanks!

[@officialWWM]

There must be some ugly blokes in Canada 🤔

[@beefnacos6258]

@@officialWWM lol meanie

[@lueysixty-six7300]

Yea boys. I sold me MIM Strat last year to buy a Charvel DK24 instead....and I did it primarily because of the heel joint. I had carpel tunnel surgery and that Fender block heel pokes me right on the tender scare in the palm of my hand were they did the incision. It's just NOT good enough!! And the fact that the same factory makes the Charvel...which shxts all over the MIM Strats...it just blows my mind! How...why can't they be better...??

[@dcarsondavis]

@@lueysixty-six7300 love Charvel

[@backlom]

A blessing you weren’t sent one - you were able to provide so many pros and cons and alternative options without Fender breathing down your neck.

[@zxbc1]

Yeah every other guitar channel basically licks Fender boots, no one has been critical of these new guitars yet. The youtube guitar community is a joke right now and acts in pretty much unison to promote major brands. This channel is one of the last bastions of independent opinions left.

[@DMSProduktions]

@@zxbc1 SPEAK for your self!

[@markuyehara7880]

Nah. Darrell's been critical of stuff companies have sent to him before so I don't think that would have made a difference. He's never harsh about it but as far as I've seen, he always shoots straight. It's what makes this channel great.

[@DeadHandBlues]

He still said it was worth it then held up a Charvel that was cheaper. That would cost close to double for Fender to make.......Fishman pickups and roasted maple neck for cheaper than plain maple and MIM pickups.....wtf......

[@voiceofexperience]

@@zxbc1 Oh, you noticed that too?.. It makes me sick.

[@Mattguitarmania]

I'll bet Fender really hates you for exposing how overpriced they are for such minimal Improvements. Thank you for always providing such thorough and insightful reviews

[@manoskf]

The part that separates you from the other youtubers until now is the 3 last minutes of the video. That last part shows a lot to me for you, and I think you are the top reviewer IMO. The honesty, the quality of the content and the general vibe puts you there. Thanx by a 50 yo Greek guitar lover

[@runningwithscissors0911]

Agree!

[@victorformosa2825]

Without doubt Darrell always gives a good and honest review while being entertaining at the same time.

[@robertaugustine5350]

I’ll jump in to this discussion early and light the fuse. I think they needed to be in the $700 range on this to be competitive. My G & L Tribute is equal or better and $300 cheaper. As you rightly pointed out there are many good guitars in the $600 to $750 range. No need to pay for the brand, that doesn’t make it sound better.

[@Madchris8828]

The brand only pumps its resale, and that's only to a certain extent

[@yobaby14]

I agree and posted elsewhere.

[@AndyDion]

Agree 💯 Love my G&L ASAT tribute, can get them used for $300-400

[@officialWWM]

But for a lot of players, only a Fender will do!

[@brbadge]

They don’t need to be competitive! It’s already sold out! What you see in the stores is already paid for.

[@lomoholga]

Love this guys style- rather than blindly gush over the guitar he actually talks about the differences in features in detail

[@deanallen927]

The 12" radius is worth the price of admission, rolled edges even better. The string tree DOEs out perform the crappy regular one - it helps trem problems more than locking tuners.

[@JSession]

Does rolled edges mean the frets won’t poke your hand ?

[@bengrove8701]

I just bought a Player Plus HSS. It’s really good. I bought two Charvels and sent both back with QS issues. The PP is really well made with a great neck.

[@clarkcrews9905]

I just bought the Player Plus today from Guitar Center. Black/Gray burst, HSS, Pau Ferro neck. LOVE THIS GUITAR! Plays so smoothly, stays in tune, and it has a beautiful sound. I bought and took back a Fender Player Series last Winter. This one I will definitely keep! Problem is, now I want the Tele/Carvel Mike showed.

[@StandwithIsrael-vx2eo]

Hi what is the difference between hss player plus to sss?

[@ogles824]

Just bought a Player Plus Strat. I’ve had it about a month and when I first bought it; a couple of days after I’d played it I tried to half step tune it for a song and it lost its mind. It didn’t want that tune and then didn’t want to go back to a standard tune. I talked to some folks and watched a few you tube videos and decided all it needed was to be retuned until everything stretched and settled. It finally started reacting like it was supposed to after about three days. Now it holds a tune just fine no matter what, I also own a custom built Tele and this player plus is the better of the two.

[@jimmyg9183]

Thanks man. Another video that helps me(beginner/intermediate in my 40’s) know what’s out there, but also feel encouraged about my Yamaha Pacífica 612 vfm II and know how it compares. Keep up the good work!

[@dasmuss6174]

I have the same Pacifica and a Mexican strat, both are awesome guitars, the Yamaha is beautiful and probably more bang for buck I recon

[@rajvirsingh5754]

612 is really amazing

[@Ronno4691]

Pacifica 612 is bloody good guitar. A lot of good guitar.

[@imactuallyih3697]

I also own the 612 and can't rate it highly enough. Amazing value for money

[@dasmuss6174]

@@imactuallyih3697 I totally agree, I mean if I could teach my Pacifica to cook and clean the wife would be looking for somewhere else to live, that’s how good this thing is 👍😂

[@michaelcaporizzo3923]

Right on, Darrell. The square heel joint is a deal breaker for many players. I can't understand why the rounded heel is not a standard spec on all bolt-ons that don't fall under the "vintage spec" category.

[@Giitzerland]

A lot of people trust the square as a more sturdy, and durable spec, personally I don't mind it, I'm used to it, but I'd think it's time for Fender to move into an easier neck plate, or even get rid of it all together, like so many super strats have done, either I think it's familiarity wins points with a lot of people.

[@sgeggbub1008]

Even the American made performer series still have the block joint, great instrument but a disappointing oversight

[@harolddavis4138]

I like how he slides his opinion in, like a ninja. For me, the player series it is.

[@thecraftbeerbandit2037]

Just picked mine up today for 910 out the door. Honestly my player is nice but this one feels so much more comfortable in my hands👌 you definitely need to feel them side by side to feel the difference. And the noiseless pickups sound damn good too. Opal spark plus an awesome gig bag. I'm honestly very happy about my purchase.

[@DarrellBraunGuitar]

Congrats on the new guitar!🎸 Thats a great price too!

[@commissioner1969]

@@DarrellBraunGuitar I think he's lying about the price. He must be American. Lol

[@thecraftbeerbandit2037]

@@commissioner1969 why would I be lying? It's called asking for a discount...17% off. It doesn't hurt to ask

[@commissioner1969]

@@thecraftbeerbandit2037 you definitely didn't get it in Canada then. The guitar shops around Toronto are huge pricks. Especially with new models. What's the reason for discounting a brand new model???

[@thecraftbeerbandit2037]

@@commissioner1969 oh no I'm in the US. Sorry to hear that man, no reason really there is nothing wrong with it. I just asked them to give me a deal that would make me want to take it today. They made money I got a deal and we were both happy 👍

[@tonyalto1014]

Excellent overview, thanks! For me, the regular Player gets the nod, but I do like the push-pull voicing and the locking tuners which could be added. Now, if they offered standard pickups in the Plus, I'd likely roll that way.

[@lostreb]

If they offered the standard pickups at a lower cost on the Plus?? I'm right there with you!!! Great Comment!!!

[@corynorell3686]

Big fan of the desk and the dark background. It keeps me from getting lost in admiring all your beautiful guitars and having to rewind to hear what you said!

[@charleswallace5818]

Thank you for acknowledging the difference in the noiseless pickups and single coils pickups. Thank you for sharing. Have a blessed day

[@aliengrey6052]

The player plus is a much nicer guitar than the player. The pickups are worth it just for those. It compares very well to the American ultra. I adore my player plus, rounded played in neck the feel and sounds are great. Overdrive sounds sublime.

[@BillChristen3]

I had an American Ultra and with the exception of the radius and the curved heel, they're very similar for $1000 difference. I have a Player Plus Olympic Pearl on the way right now. I'm interested to see how different it is from the Ultra.

[@rickk1235]

I just played one today. Here's my 2 cents. 1. For me, I like the Player Plus because it's the only Fender I've played that allows me to play barre chords with small hands. The 12" radius is much easier for me than the 9 1/2. 2. I also played the Charvel with the hss pickups. The Fender's pickups for a "Fender sound" sound much better than the Charvel's. However, the Charvel is a lighter guitar and it just feels wonderful. Must say that the Fender's "Cosmic Jade" green is a beautiful guitar vs the plain white of the Charvel. Thank goodness you posted this video so I can see that there are other, more reasonably priced options!!! I would like you maybe to compare this guitar's tones to the others you have recommended in another video.

[@judih.8754]

As usual another thoughtful video with your honest pro's and con's. Thanks. I'll keep my Pacifica.

[@tns4421]

Go tell companies that THIS IS THE WAY TO PRESENT A GUITAR PROPERLY !!! Thank you so much!!!

[@congerscott6064]

I'm totally happy with the Fender player Telecaster, no extra bells and whistles, just a good plug and play guitar. 👍.

[@sheumack]

Yay. Finally somebody pointed out the heel joint. I'm glad I have my two deluxes to keep me happy for the immediate future.

[@DingoDIDeatmybaby]

Fender is never going to sell guitars as competitive prices when they know people will pay the extra $150+ for the logo on the headstock. It's like Apple in the sense that they're never going to "water down" their company image with reasonably priced products.

[@Ottophil]

I wish apple had a better made in america option. But all cell phones are squiers

[@frankortega4280]

Great comparison Darrell. I would stay with the Player Series. I recently saw a Fender Player Series Plus Top which I think is just Blueburst / Greenburst finishes. The extra cost seems excessive for the upgrades to me.

[@beefnacos6258]

I find it pretty balanced. I believe the guitar are talking about is 850 bucks going rate. So 850 bucks for the guitar then if you add locking tuners that's 50 bucks and then 80 bucks for the bridge comes out to $980.

[@I.am_Groot]

@@beefnacos6258 I think that is part of Fender's thinking to hit the market that would buy a MIM and upgrade so its already done with the Player Plus. To me the issue is less what they are 'worth' and more what other options I have at $1000-1200 that make the Player Plus a no for me

[@user-of9ut1hd9q]

I believe those finishes were only for HSS models as I have a Fender Player Strat in aged cherry burst like Darrell. That being said, I actually do wish I had known about the Player Plus Series, but this was about 9 months ago. I personally think the upgraded bridge saddles, radius, rolled fingerboard, tuners, pickups, and tonal options on the plus series are worth the extra cost. It's basically as good as an American made one at that point

[@runningwithscissors0911]

I agree. I have a Player SSS Strat and just love it. Easy enough to add locking tuners, change the nut and the string tree if I really want to. The standard Player is definitely the better buy.

[@user-of9ut1hd9q]

@@runningwithscissors0911 I upgraded to locking Fender tuners and got some springs to pop in the trem arm screw and it's an absolutely amazing guitar. Pair that with the Neural DSP Cory Wong plug in and I have a rig punching WAY above its weight for the price!

[@JRobsonGuitar]

I'd also mention the Sire Larry Carlton S7... Roasted maple neck; push in trem; locking tuners; abalone inlays; rolled fretboard edges; ergonomic heel joint & bone nut. All this for £429.

[@salvatorepuccini4261]

I have the deluxe player. Love the classic noiseless pickups. Gold hardware and ash body. Got it used with the sunburst finish. Wanted the blue but couldn't find one as they are discontinued so I went with the best deal on reverb. It has a push button instead of pulling to engage the neck pickup to get that tele middle position sound

[@UmVtCg]

Sure, but do you have a Strat with real singlecoils to compare them with because it's not the same.

[@martialway100]

So many great guitars these days at reasonable prices, especially on the second hand market. Thank you for uploading your guitar videos onto YT, Darrell.

[@aaronjones6483]

A few months back I got a PRS S2 Standard 24 Satin for like $1050. The coil split is fantastic and makes the guitar super flexible. Close enough to strat tone for my ear, made in the USA and does the les Paul/SG thing too. I’m starting to go to it more than my Core McCarty 594. It’s ridiculous for the price.

[@gkf9]

I bought a Player Strat a few year ago, put some SSL-1 in the Neck and Middle and a SSL-5 in the Bridge, had a new pickguard fitted with the switch in to add the neck pick up, fitted locking tuners, and a set up. Sounds and looks killer, if the Player Plus had been available back then I'd of bought one for sure, put I've got almost everything it offers now ( better pups on my Player strat imo ) So wouldn't be much of an upgrade for me.

[@iused2bfast153]

That's a killer pickup combination, same on my Warmoth build love it

[@NicolasBazinet]

Reverend is another great competitor in this price range. I sold my Deluxe Roadhouse Strat for a Charger 290 (yeah I know, different beasts) and I don't regret one bit!

[@Bazs0811]

I had a plan to mod a CV strat or player strat to have something similar to this plus series…now Fender did it, made me happy then saw the prices and decided to make the mods as planned initially :D

[@bawbwhoa]

I'm sitting here noodling on my Deluxe Series strat from 07/08 as I watch this. I freaking love it. I don't think you can go wrong with these. I have a button on mine that turns on the bridge pickup and it's so cool to get tele style sounds from my strat. Pretty cool they included something similar here.

[@richardsali1954]

Last winter when you reviewed the PT Schecter, I gave it a lot of thought, watched your review 12 or 15 times. and finally ordered one last April. I intended to replace my mim Fender Tele modified vinterra, 50’s version. It took until Sept to get the Schecter.

[@bushcry1]

How was it for you compared to the Vintera?

[@richardsali1954]

@@bushcry1 the Vinterra I had was a 50’s vintage version. The neck itself felt much thicker and rounder overall, whereas the Schecter’s neck feels a little flatter and thinner in depth. So to me the Schecter feels easier to play. The Schecter’s frets don’t seem to be as deep/ high as the Fender’s, which was kind of a surprise to me because I bought the 50’s vinterra because I’d foolishly sold a real ‘52 Tele, and was trying to reproduce that playing experience. In fairness to the Vinterra the old Tele had been modified and refinished years,and two owners earlier, so what was it like to play originally, I can’t say. I will say this the Schecter plays much more like the real 50’s Tele I had. The Vinterra that I bought used, was in beautiful shape, the Tele was in good shape too, but was definitely road worn, and had been a working musician’s guitar for a couple of years. The Vinterra had very bad fret sprout, was much newer. The Tele loved in the Drumheller Alberta valley for a number of years (exposure to extremes in temperature and very cold dry winters). So if I would have expected fret sprout on one of the two, it should not have been the Vinterra, the Tele had had a much harder and longer life. In terms of the electronics, I again like the Schecter better, it has a five way switch, not a push button, I just find it easier to get used to. The Schecter is definitely the best looking guitar, but oh I wish I’d never sold the ugly duckling Tele. In short the Schecter is a very close replacement for the old Tele, so I am much more pleased with it over the Vinterra.

[@risingpower3658]

I didn't expect to be able to hear the superiority of the Fender, but I can. Lots of guitars are close, but no cigar. Fenders, real ones, do sound better up to perfection. I want that pure natural sound and it appears to me that only a real Fender will do it.

[@bldallas]

About 20 years ago, I bought an American Deluxe Strat. It was the classic sunburst finish, with white pick guard, lace sensor (noiseless) pups, roller nut, etc. The price back then was only $700 new. I didn’t end up playing it much so, after a couple years, I sold it to buy a new Blues Deluxe tube amp. I think I got $550. Now, I sure wish I’d held on to it.

[@Javier-qk7ms]

Don't forget the narrow-tall frets on the deluxe old ones. For this price I would prefer to target a Charvel DK22 which does not look or feel like traditional at all but the conversation here is about modern features.

[@ej1_drew]

you're seriously the best!!! i can't believe how many topics you have covered and this is just the video i needed today 😊

[@leonarddaneman810]

The Deluxe Roadhouse (and its brother the HSS Highway 1) MIM ended mid-2016 (I got one of the last ones made) and the model moved up to Corona, USA with some changes being a two-point trem, 12" rad, the 1st Gen Noiseless Pickups, lost the Rosewood fret board, contoured heel, and gained the locking tuners (if I recall correctly). And, it jumped up about $300 in MSRP. These had a tone modifying preamp that sucked the life out of a 9 volt battery . . . now, the S-1 switch just changes the wiring to parallel and out-of-phase p/u combos. They used to be scarce as hen's teeth, you could find NOS or used from $500-$800. Now, they are popping up for over $1000.

[@rick00770]

I gave $ 740 for a sunburst HSS today, it says special edition on back, pretty impressed with it. Hadn’t had a good strat in a while. Been playing an epi Les Paul. Love the looks of the sunburst, maple neck is pretty cool. Thanks for the review, feel better about my purchase.

[@IIIIIlII-ik2iu]

one of the best comparison videos. with detailed but easily understandable information🤙🏻👍🏻🔥🔥🔥

[@GuitarsRgood7]

I bought a used one in Tequila Sunrise a few days ago for $450. I was planning on flipping it for a $200 profit, but I really like it! I only had a HH and 2 P-90 guitar before, so this completes the trifecta. I'm really loving the neck pickup.

[@trevinbracken2889]

Thank you for not being stuck up Fenders ass like a lot of KZbinrs. Nice to have an unbiased opinion. I really love the ShiJie. If that's spelled wrong, I'm sorry. Told my wife, those are next. Honestly today, I'd rather buy a Vintage proshop than a Player Series. I have a 2019 vintera 50s Strat modified and it's my number 1. But man, I have a hard time swallowing the things fender does.

[@brian770]

just took delivery of my wifes player plus HSS in cosmic jade and had sweetwater plek it before they sent it, it is EPIC !!!! the question of is it worth it is so personal that its really not worth asking. to me 100% yes, to somebody else probably not. i say to each their own.

[@macuse2008]

I got my player for 550 a year ago open box. Very happy with it!

[@cloudburst1215]

The Charvel with Fishman pickups rules if you like 24frets and thinner necks, thanks for the recommendation Darrell.

[@todd0864]

Ill say one thing. It makes used MIA strats way more attractive.

[@guitareveryone]

Great episode Darrell. One thing to to note: The later Roadhouse had a built in active 6 position midboost for the middle tone control knob that was engaged with that S-1 type switch in the volume knob. I own that guitar and it's great and it's a shame that they discontinued that model.

[@rome8180]

I have a Deluxe Player Strat. I got it for $500 used a couple years ago. I absolutely love it. It's so comfortable and it looks gorgeous. I must say, it's a lot more attractive than these new ones. I believe they're going for $700-800 now, but I still think you'd be better off getting one of those. The noiseless pickups are the worst part of the guitar, btw. I've been planning to switch them out for a while now.

[@arkadyromanov7803]

Hey Darrell, pretty sure the tuners on the plus have staggered post heights for the higher strings for better tuning stability in addition to the changed string tree. So they're not just locking.

[@lostreb]

No...It is incorrect thinking that the Locking Tuners on the Player Plus are staggered. I've seen other reviews done by Reviewers with "Guitar In Hand" that have said they are "NOT" Staggered Locking Tuners. They tried to promote this as an advantage to increase the angle for better tuning. I'm not in possession of a guitar or enough information to dispute their claims it aids in tuning. I do know I've seen enough videos done by those with Player Plus Guitars in hand that have stated they are "NOT" Staggered Locking Tuners. I'm only trying to provide clarification. Thank you for your comment.

[@johnsacco2430]

There are staggered tuners where the posts are the same height. On staggered tuners that are all the same height the holes are in a different spot on the post.

[@lostreb]

@@johnsacco2430 That is information that was "not" mentioned by the reviewers I mentioned. Not one word was ever mentioned about the different location of the holes to accomplish the same end result as staggered tuners. Thank you for information I was not aware of. Very informative!!!! Great Comment!!!

[@sheumack]

@@lostreb I have staggered tuners on my Elite. It means I don't need a string stree for E and B.... but frankly, that's not here or there. A string tree isn't a deal breaker one way or another.

[@lostreb]

@@sheumack The whole thing is, I was "not" aware that there are staggered tuners that are the same height as regular tuners, but the whole location makes them staggered tuners. Hey, just because I'm well over 70 does not mean I cannot learn something new. My mindset was if the tuners are all the same height, they are not staggered tuners. As was brought to my attention, the tuners can all be the same height and the location of the holes is what makes them staggered. All the staggered tuners on all my guitars are all different heights. I do "know" why we use staggered tuners. I just was "not" aware that tuners all the same height can be staggered because of the hole location. I have no problems with string trees either. Actually, I prefer them. But then, again...I'm an Old F@rt so I'm set in my ways!!! (Attempt at humor) Thanks for your comment.

[@josephrice5502]

I have the HSS player plus in Cosmic Jade and also the Aged candy apple in the SSS configuration...I have to say..fender nailed it on these strats.

[@jtwrc]

Player for me. I just picked up a Lake Placid Blue for $649 (Prime Day sale). My smallish hands like the 42mm nut and 9.5" radius fretboard. If I decide I want to add the Neck pickup I'll add an S1 switch. Much better than push/pull.

[@joeyfarley9916]

I have the honey blonde Deluxe Players Strat from 2014 it was my first proper guitar. I am still playing it every day and it has been great. I cant believe its been so long I bought it in August 2014 and it started a very long journey that I am still on today and it is right there looking brand new still, thanks to the poly I guess but it is an ash body you can see some grain in it. The thing is a solid guitar I have played for years with no problems but I do regular work on it myself. Great video like always. The 12in board is nice but I would change the finish on the neck in my opinion, I have had some stickiness before after sweating.

[@alexanderdeclercq982]

Ya i think it's a good value, i'm still pretty happy with my player tele. Also upgraded mine to fender locking tuners.

[@mikekisonu6825]

Can't say you compelled me to purchase a Player Plus, but thanks for cluing me in on the alternatives! ;)

[@yobaby14]

@Robert Augustine I agree. I opted for used G&L Tributes, both MIK, a Legacy and a S-500. I've upgraded the Legacy with Tusq XL and string tree, GT String Saver saddles, and Ratio locking tuners. The S-500 will eventually get the same, probably, but it gives you a lot more guitar for a significant amount less. I had a Roadhouse Strat with EMG Gilmour's before the G&L's, but it ran off to live with my son.

[@jamesluther3506]

Thanks for showing the cheaper alternatives to the Fender Plus.

[@Katakagara]

👋Hey Darrell , new subscriber here and in the market for an electric. My beloved 1971 Fender Telecaster was stolen out of my home (the 2 guys got 1 1/2 years jail time plus a felony burglary on their record for doing it and I was at least satisfied for that. So, no voting, no good jobs, bad rep for life for those losers🤡🤡, all for taking my guitar and a few useless items that can be replaced in my home--except the Tele). I'm a long time musician, also with a youtube channel for handpan , but new to seriously using electric guitars for recording in my studio. Your video came up as a suggestion when I was on the Fender website watching their marketing video about this very guitar. You explained it WAY better without even playing it. Thank you for this. I'll be watching more! 🎸

[@donhancock1721]

Fender has priced the name into the No Go area for me. Seeing how I picked up a new "Player" series guitar a couple of years ago for $425 on a sale in a softer market.

[@pabloescabar1038]

I had four fender Stratocasters. I now own Schecter and love it

[@justmehere6094]

And yes the Sterling by EB Cutlass is great. BECAUSE of you, I got one.

[@stubonics]

I had been toying with the idea of getting an HSS Strat, so this new series has my attention. I like the green one. I have also noticed the Pro II Strats and Teles are $100 cheaper than they were a few months ago on a few Canadian sites. Not that it matters because they haven't been in stock anywhere for a while. I was expecting something new from Fender when I noticed this price change last week. I wouldn't be surprised if a Professional 3 series will be announced sometime soon too.

[@mikeaddison-saipe5820]

Unless you are dead set on getting the guitar with the logo - go and test play a Music Man Cutlass HSS. That's what I have. Did a test comparison in the shop. The Fender was No Better! But double the price. The finish on the Music Man was superior. Check out Darrell's review of it. And then if you still are set on the Fender - go for it - knowing you have checked out alternatives. Just my opinion :)

[@RafsGearReviews]

Hey Darrell. Great video as always. Not changing the nut or pop in bar was a huge miss in my opinion. Both simple and affordable upgradee that make a world of difference. Let's not even talk about the heel joint lol. I think the challenge here is that Fender's Player series had a 'sudden' price jump (to avoid saying unjustified) and it just doesn't offer the same value as most other brands in that price range. If Fender had bumped these up to $699 instead then the $200 price hike here would be well justified and while at both price points there would still be better value options, the brand name would fill that gap more reasonably than at the current price point.

[@peik5569]

I mean you are right, however shipping and making instruments currently (due to corona) has been insanely expensive, hence the price increase. I wouldn’t be suprised, if they lowered prices by like $50 in a year, because the suppliers and shipping companies wont be asking as much

[@martinkrauser4029]

@@peik5569 the prices are still viewed in context of other brands. Who have not hiked those prices.

[@HiredGoonage]

ultimately it's supply and demand. You will pay a bit more for a Fender than less famous brands, and that's understandable and expected. The only justification they need is whether it sells at that price point or not

[@Anjohl]

I tried one again today, and while they are high quality, the price point is sticking point for me. If they were still at the $950 US mark they were being sold for at the start of the year, I could vouch for them. At the current price of $1,100+, I think most people would be better off buying a used American Strat, a Sire S7 (for 2/3's the cost), or just saving up for an American Strat.

[@ToyeJohnson]

Thanks for mentioning the the other guitars!! I'm gonna look into them especially the Charvel

[@Smart-Alex]

I have the cosmic green HSS Strat as of yesterday. Super pleased so far and I have multiple MIA guitars as well. I see a humbucker pickup replacement in its future but that’s it.

[@Smart-Alex]

Oh and the HB pickup when pulled is quite noisy, it’s not noiseless. But, other than that, the cosmic green is the nicest Strat finish I’ve ever owned. My Jeff Beck Strat won’t be getting any love for while :)

[@masonhoward7826]

I got one. I like it. Yeah it's more expensive, it's dope for that reason. I've never seen a fender with a burst finish.

[@danielversion1.035]

I just picked up the very same cherry burst plus top player a couple months ago... with the intention of making most of these upgrades... then this week Fender drops the Player Plus... (groan)... but honestly, i still find that the Cherry Burst with the standard logo with the "original contour body" sticker is much nicer to look at... and the cost associated with swapping the saddles, tuners, pickups, (to Lace Sensors... sooooo nice,) and getting the frets dressed, is still cheaper than the Player Plus... until i add the push/pull pot... but i still prefer the one i got :)

[@chrisross7423]

I'm really curious how these stack up to a charvel at this point.

[@JOTG2000]

Well, I own a Charvel, So-cal style 2, and here in Australia they are a little bit more more expensive but worth every cent. Not sure I could say the same about these Fenders. They feel like another re badge / release of the same old thing.

[@voiceofexperience]

Your "regular" Player guitar is beautiful, and sounds great 👌

[@SingPsalms]

I tried it, the rolled edge fretboard and noiseless pickups sold it for me. I'm getting the Tele first. I think it's worth it if you don't already have a player series, or just want a new guitar. Side tangent: It's funny how everyone loves locking tuners, sure they are easy. I guess I love them too... but I enjoy wrapping the strings on the post and I like the look of it. I wonder if thereis any negative effect in wrapping the posts on locking tuners 🤔

[@dannyt2885]

Thanks Darrell Your channel is one of my favorite guitar channels on KZbin I always give you a thumbs up before the video even starts! 👍👍👍☝☝☝

[@patrickgesner2991]

Great video. My 2 cents: you can buy a regular player strat used for around $550, drop a $320 920d custom pickguard in it and then buy the F 2 pin tuners for about $48.00. The tuners anyone can install themselves. It would probably be $85-115 to install a prewired pickguard and set it up. Only difference…the rolled fingerboard edges. I agree about the heal cutaway! Bummer they didn’t include it like the deluxe. I guess Fender is going to make that Exclusive to the American Professional and Ultra. Dumb question: what About the American Performer series HSS strat? It’s about the same price as these new player plus. Good review Darrell!!!

[@carpathus]

The new Squier Contemporary guitars have the sculpted neck heel. Darrell is so right, big miss by Fender.

[@CarlyonProduction]

The plus does have 12 inch radius and a flatter neck profile, along with larger string spacing. I did find it incredibly comfortable to play

[@3J_Music]

Darrell showed some great guitars in the competition section of the video, but one he left out is the Godin Session. Amazing strat style guitar in the same price range as the others

[@filipkostovski873]

Indeed. And the satin finish on some of the sessions has an amazing feel and sound.

[@15156495]

Part of the upcharge I think is the convenience factor of not having to purchase and install the pickups and tuners yourself.

[@richardgarcia406]

Just checked these out at Guitar Center. Feel really nice. The tele has a belly carve. Big upgrade.

[@ShivjotRangi]

Difference between Player series and (Player Plus series) Tuners - Standard (Non-Staggered Locking Tuners) Radius - 9.5" (12") String Tree - Standard Tree (Roller Tree) Nut Width - 1.650" (1.685") Pickups - Alnico V (Noiseless) Pickup selector switch - 5 way (7 way including tone 2 push/pull to activate neck pickup also for position 1 and 2) Saddles - Bent Steel (Block Steel)

[@maxamgilbert]

I bought the Tequila version two month ago and exchanged an American Special with it …and I‘m happy. I really don‘t like the classical strat bridge, it‘s awful, this one is perfect. I like the noiseless PU. Ok if you think getting radio erivan on stage via your strat is ok than you shouldn‘t buy the player plus. Neck is nice for bendings and I like looking tuners. So, great job, Fender. Thx!

[@michaelblaney4461]

Fender is pushing this series hard on the internet. It's nice to see someone not totally sell out to Fender (even though I'm a Fender Fan). There are options for less money out there as you have shown. I'm a bassist I looked at the J bass plus I was not impressed , I would still keep Sire V7 over it . Sire really knows how to do the rolled edges better.

[@fredriksvard2603]

Sire vs this, knife to a gunfight

[@stefanchernev4996]

I absolutely agree about the countoured heel joint... A missed opportunity!

[@moagoo5714]

You are the absolute best at this. So dang much usable information. Thanks!

[@thereareplaces]

Darrell - Thanks for the review. I enjoyed this one along with many other. Until now, however, I had not realized how good you were at”… damning with faint praise.” While one cannot follow your videos without realizing your disdain for Fender and its products, I thought this review of the Fender Player Plus was a disservice to your listeners, especially those of us who are looking for helpful commentaries on the merits (or lack of them) regarding new guitars. Imagine my surprise when your review did not even include playing the instrument. Instead, we have to rely on your comments. They include: “Yep, worthy upgrade…”, “…Not worth the price…”, “… lack of a contoured heel is a deal breaker for me…”, “No bone nut, it’s really just plastic…” and other criticisms wrapped with faint praise. I was looking for a Stratocaster-type guitar and decided that I might take the plunge and buy a Fender American Professional II HSS, but was loath to spend that much money. I was not enamored with the existing player series and did not see anything else in the Fender line that seemed it might be a good alternative to the features on the American Professional II HSS. So, I sat and stewed for a while thinking about alternatives. When the Player Plus HSS was announced I was immediately interested, did some research, purchased one from Sweetwater and had them set it up for me as desired. I am completely pleased with the Player Plus HSS. It has an interesting, pleasing sound, is wonderful to play, feels extremely comfortable to hold even across long sessions and was an acceptable price for the equipment offered. The lack of a contoured heel does not seem to be a problem for me (especially given the small size of the heel), nor does the screw-in trem bar seem to be so difficult to conquer. Indeed, even though you have deemed the guitar “… has nothing new…” (compared to releases of similar products over a decade ago), I found my copy to be an excellent guitar that met my needs and had the Fender brand to boot (as well at the 75th Anniversary logo - just something fun, obviously not something necessary). I am sure Charvel, Yamaha, Music Man and other companies make great products (although your reviews of them seem, also, to find things you don’t like about them that appear to make little difference in the real world (like your “small” pot tirades, followed by your admission that “..I have never had a small pot fail…” But the fact is that some of us may want to purchase a Fender. When I look at You Tube music videos many of the performing artists are using Fender Products, and I rarely see one of the alternative brands you mention. There is likely a reason for that omission. However, this just shows you that there are brand preferences and for some people brands are important (just ask PRS owners). Don't start, I own a PRS SE Hollowbody). Darrell, there is a large group of new players out there who did not experience the past, or, if they did, were not interested in guitars at the earlier stages of life, but who are now looking for good information on products that they may buy today. Fender is advertising the Player Plus for a new generation of guitar players. Maybe they have struck the right chord, as their new product seems to be flying off the shelves of suppliers. New players….new taste… Nah, crazy idea isn’t it? Enjoy your channel. Love your playing.

[@jmc2567]

For me,someone that can't play,but is looking to buy a good,quality guitar to learn on and play and one that lasts,this is an excellent vid,the Yamaha and/or charvel sounded good,as did a couple of the others,I have been thinking fender or Gibson but been trying to find others of good quality,the money I save on brand name could go towards a better amp or pedals and stuff,whether we can get a lot of other brands in New Zealand i,m sure we can.thankyou for a cool vid.👍👍👍👍👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🎸🎸🎸

[@RickFoxx777]

kudos to you for always being so uplifting, it's always a pleasure to watch you review something. That Tequila Sunrise finish is so beautiful...to bad that's the only reason to buy this guitar. I love Fender amps and guitars, I really do, but lately seems like all they ever put out anymore in terms of necks are the Modern C neck or deep C neck and those necks are good for beginners but not for me or all the other guitar players I know. I have been playing on stage and every kind of venue for over forty years and a point of fact is...very few of the guitar players I know or have ever known ever use a C neck for very long. Most of them convert to a soft V, mid sixties C or something thicker like an oval (SRV model) and even a few of them like the fifties U shape (baseball neck). Fender also seems to be pushing those noiseless pups of theirs, I know Beck and Clapton use them and at one time many of my friends and I tried and used them (briefly) but now, no one I know or have known still uses them. We try them every now and again to see if they have gotten better, but in the end the tone is just not there so we always wind up replacing them for something else with much better tonal qualities. One last thing I would like to mention, is that those Zinc blocks on the bridge are not good for sustain or sound transfer, they sound cheap and are cheap. I preface all I have said to say this... If you are a beginner this is a good little guitar for you...however at this price point it's unlikely you would choose this guitar. Again, the paint job (and maybe the nice saddles) is the best thing about this guitar. For me to buy this guitar would mean I would have to upgrade almost everything on it i.e. neck, bridge (not the saddles), tuners, pickups and most likely the wiring assembly and strap locks, which would cost me another grand or so depending on the cost of the pups and neck I would use. If it was in the $500.00 range I might consider it just because of the the paint job...MAYBE. IMO, Fenders pricing of there "MADE IN MEXICO GUITARS" have gotten way out of control. With whats available on the internet I can build my own guitar with close to top of the line everything (including Nitro Paint) for less than what there charging for this guitar. C'mon Fender you can do better than this. PEACE

[@michaelnettles2570]

Sure like to see you demo a Burns once. Never seen a demo of a Burns...and they have cool singles. Do it bro! Just do it!

[@JF-em6hr]

Well I complained about it enough(everything being 9.5" radius) so I guess I better thank Fender now for making a resonably priced 12" radius. Thank You Fender!

[@colakeith1]

You never mentioned G&L as competition GREAT guitars and real quality while more affordable. I will just keep my 2001 Standard Strat

[@aariyanasayani]

Darrell - proud to be Canadian everytime I watch your channel! You’re one of the few I subscribe to. Can you do a review on some beginner pedals for an advanced player start with?

[@huginstarkstrom]

I'd say that for that price, Charvel are the better option...that said, I ordered one in March and still haven't gotten it - they did send me one with glue marks on the neck and uneven frets, that I sent back. But apart from those mistakes, the guitar would have been excellent. I am looking forward to getting mine probably in Novembre.

[@justmehere6094]

Lines like this make me glad I bought my Trad Copper Deluxe Roadhouse when I did. The only thing I wish it had, that this does, is the smaller headstock. But, what made THEM so great was all the 'upgrades', and they were priced unbelievably well. I actually think they were close to standard MIM prices of the time. These seem a bit over priced in that regard. GRANTED compared to MIA, great price, but that speaks more for the MIA prices. After all, MIM are mostly the same materials, made by mostly the same people (appears to be a lot that work at both factories, being so close to each other).

[@jensmeier7716]

I throw in my Sire Larry Carlton S7...has features of the Player Plus + a roasted maple neck and fingerboard! I love it and sounds amazing for 499$/€ !!!

[@flbiker57]

Just got mine yesterday. Neck pickup worked for a few minutes before cutting out. I had the same problem with a Player Serieis Thinline Telecaster I bought a few years ago. Had to replace the pickup selector on my on dime. Fender authorized repair wouldn't do it.

[@TheSharkbyte99]

Hey Darrell, why aren't Godin guitars (other than Multiac's) ever really showcased on your channel? The electric solid bodies offer so much compared to the "brand" rivals in the way of tones, pickup options, outstanding build quality, playability, versatility, neck feel, etc. Being Canadian made I'd would have thought to see many featured on your channel. Love what you do with your reviews, keep up the excellent work!!!

[@kirkscobey3031]

Sorry jumped off the Fender bandwagon! Love the Squiers but you’ve got me looking at the Schecters more and more

[@waynecribb4922]

I appreciate your reviews as they are always very informative and enjoyable. Keep up the great work ! Thanks for all you do !!

[@ridgebringger6520]

The content we need. Thank you Darrell

[@zippyt.libertine3787]

YES! Also making the deal sweeter is the American Strat for under $600.

[@jamesp.rogers5156]

I'll tell you Darrell , my 1996 MIM start with HSS will smoke any of these "new" Fender player series and the only thing I changed was the tuners ,I put a great set of Schallers on there .In fact when I bought it , I had two MIM Strats , two Japanese and one American and the MIM I bought was absolutely way better than all of them ,even the American Strat which cost double at the time . Oh , by the way In 96 I paid like $350 for it.

[@stephenguild5281]

I agree they made a mistake on the neck heel. My Nashville tele has that contoured heel and I love it up on those high frets!!!

[@avh9394]

That Sterling you reviewed is looking better and better!