I Bowled Against Another Pro On String Pins

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[@JoshG528]

5:08 love the Sean Rash reference 😂

[@edwardranno7119]

String pins make bowling look like a carnival game

[@binaryanticommunist1882]

Strings are a carnival game. It’s fake. Might as well be a video game. Take note of the PBA pros trying to gaslight you.

[@ksnorts3970]

100%

[@gety3563]

There is a huge difference from regular string pins like these and actual USBC Certified String pins, don’t get them confused

[@Boardsplitter]

The pba celebrity matches made bowling look like a carnival game yet it’s one of the more popular telecasts and does the best at attracting non bowlers to watch. Who cares how bowling looks. Non bowlers don’t complain about whether it’s on strings or not and they are the people we should be trying to attract to our sport.

[@bradhere]

imagine watching for the match and enjoying the back and forth with Darren and Steve. No, another comment about how string pins bad.

[@jp_spareparts]

"Take that you bottle ....." iykyk so good 😂

[@itmebrandon]

This was such a fun video, loved that someone finally gave you some trolling/banter! Everyone always takes these kinds of 1v1s so seriously! This was way more fun to watch.

[@Mr.Fontastic86]

I’m sure Troup would jump to the opportunity to wear those pants lol

[@exoressdelivers70]

When laminate replaced wood on the lanes, when oil was added to the lanes to preserve them, when reactive curve balls came out, when two-handed bowling was approved for tournaments, people complained. Now string pins, people complain. A few will stop bowling, but most avid bowlers will keep bowling. It's just too much fun.

[@Zesterson]

absolutely love the Sean Rash/Jason Belmonte callback, that was such a fun match to watch lol

[@JEST3R_]

The SECOND I hear my local bowling center adopts string setups I’m changing bowling centers

[@keithchrysler3732]

You'll soon run out of places to go. The maintenance is millions less than say, Brunswick A-2s, and they are coming! Like it or not!

[@JEST3R_]

@@keithchrysler3732 then I’ll sell my kit and pour it into pool

[@shawncarnell3149]

It's the future and if you ran a bowling center you would see.

[@keithchrysler3732]

@@shawncarnell3149 you are correct!

[@user-ju3rd9td3w]

​@keithchrysler3732 millions? Try thousands and most likely under 5 for say a 40 lane center with a good mechanic.

[@RB-pc7tg]

If string pins are the future, I’ll sell my equipment and take up another sport.

[@angelaleaga718]

RB so true it's a joke.

[@matthewdubay1180]

Which sport are you thinking?

[@BeaubienMM2]

Nobody cares dude. Nobody cares if you quit the game.

[@dan-xe2xt]

@@BeaubienMM2you will when no one bowls anymore because of this ridiculous crap. The sport is already on the brink and this is what they come up with to attract people? What a joke

[@bradevans5566]

@@dan-xe2xtIt’s not to attract people, they are simpler and less expensive to maintain than the heavy pinsetters. I’m not a fan either, but since my son bowls in two leagues, one at an alley with this new string pin setup, I can confirm there is a different look and feel, but it is close enough that the transition is manageable. I think most recreational bowlers will accept the change.

[@jean-philippetremblay8588]

Loved that victory fanfare from FF!

[@cameronmorgan0203]

Alleys and the game of bowling will go down sadly but truly once these string pins go into affect at most alleys. 💯

[@robvoyles]

they will go empty except children's birthday party's.

[@webmoss]

Leaves 7-10: String pulls; leaves 7 pin.

[@Jknight51501]

That was a lot of fun to watch thanks

[@skidhookroll]

The house pro even yelled "string it!" What's happening to the game is effin' ridiculous.

[@pezmustang]

Super video … Loved the Petey Weber and Sean Rash references!

[@kyleb5169]

This was such a fun video. I love how the amateur actually talked a little game and had fun. Nice to see them not so serious now.

[@enclavevideo]

A house pro is not an amateur.

[@hazmatt81]

Haven't bowled in quite some time (15+ years) and I went and got fitted with a new ball today and threw some games to test out my skills. Just like riding a bike after the first game of 158. Found my stance and arrows & shot 214, 226 & 203. But the interesting thing was this house was my house back in the day and they are now running string pins. It certainly does feel weird visually and they seem to not hit as hard (left quite a few flat 10's) but was still the fun I was looking for. It will be interesting to see how things progress regarding these string pins. From what I've seen, this is the way to save costs in maintenance and labor. Darren, you got such great form bro!

[@kenkonarzewski9961]

The muscle memory is there, but it takes a minute to remember the choreography. Welcome back to the sport! Just like 15 years has changed for ball technology, lane patterns and such, string pins (USBC Certified ones) will be non-noticeable for leagues/pros with a variance of 1-1.5 pins max. The first few variations of strings are wildly different than the newest ones (you probably seen plenty of old string pins videos from 1-2 years ago, that's how new the USBC Verified strings are, that 1-2 year old videos are old)

[@gabrielkatzenmeier2655]

You the goat🔥🔥🔥!

[@pezboy715]

5:03 Darren can't be mad about the water bottle, he's also on Storm!

[@MrSolarith]

Steve is always hilarious, did he have his wheel burrow of balls like usual? LOL

[@JK-tn4xp]

That first ball wouldn’t have been so iffy on regular pins. Strings on the pins makes it like a carnival game and you don’t get nearly the pin action that you get from regular pins.

[@brood5503]

I love the usage of the FFVII victory tone. I thought my phone was going off for a second there, LOL

[@VerboltenTroll]

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA “ the belmonte bottle crinkler “

[@liquidrock2u]

Great video. But will there be an unboxing video of the pokemon cards?

[@billylusk3515]

How did he get kyle troups pants

[@VanceTwitch]

The FF7 victory theme, such a good little touch!

[@G.Molisani530]

Darren your why im good at bowling!!

[@notonyourlife7939]

LMAO.... only took 2 frames for the first ridiculous string- influenced shot to appear. String nearly prevented pin from falling. These things are a fucking travesty.

[@nevinkinzel]

But what other shots did you notice where there was an issue?

[@notonyourlife7939]

​​@@nevinkinzel Well if you want an exact tally I'll have to go back and watch it again, but I watched it to the end, and I'm comfortable estimating that there were at least 4-6 shots that displayed fundamentally bizarre pinfall that you would not see with free- fall. Way too much weirdness for such a small sample size of 2 games. Multiply that out over a league season and your average will be at the mercy of the fucking strings. Competitive bowling is about to be sacrificed on the altar of corporate greed. Once the majority of centers go this route, bowling will be taken about as seriously as skee ball or lawn darts.

[@h2bsol648]

I agree, fuk the strings and the morons pushing this garbage.​@@notonyourlife7939

[@SuperLefty1981]

I mean at 2:11 into the video the guy literally asks for the strings for help sooo…

[@UhKimboze]

Would you say that this means we'll just have to throw better shots to keep our averages or... are strings basically rigged?

[@mattvongruben]

I get that pin-setter machine mechanics are really expensive. If it comes down to string pins or no bowling bc all the centers are forced to close, then I'll take the strings, but it makes me sad. The strings really do suck.

[@dysfunctionaldave]

Glad to see someone gets it at least. Yeah, freefall is better- but strings are still bowling. It's not quite as good but once you've played on them for a while, they're honestly just not that bad.

[@edb3877]

@@dysfunctionaldave Lots of comments against string pins seem to be coming from those who don't like their look but who have never actually bowled on them. I've been bowling on string pins for the past 2 years and my average is 2-3 pins higher on the strings than on free fall pins. Definitely not a big deal. A good high flush hit will strike on either type of pins, but I would agree that a sloppy hit has a better chance of striking on free fall pins. On the other hand, a nasty split is easier to convert with string pins.

[@jmbrinkmann1205]

The strings really make the bowler throw a better ball and not rely on messengers. Entry angle and shape of the balls are going to be key on them.

[@iceman5117]

​@@jmbrinkmann1205except it makes picking up even the hardest splits trivial.

[@Joker81075]

Agreed but let's see where the price for league etc. settles at for these centers that go string. It best be less than what bowlers were paying prior to crazy hike that has occurred recently.

[@GreyDuck54]

Any bowling alley that uses string pins is an immediate no go.

[@origamielephant7093]

For real. They will be like "String pins = less money + Hey where did all my business go"

[@playdiscgolf1546]

“But but but we don’t have a mechanic, it’s cheaper in the long run, blah blah blah” Then you’re not a serious bowling center

[@hankgolfer1]

​@origamielephant7093 Bowling center won't lose money. Save money on mechanics and machine repair. Cost of strings so much less. That is why Bowlero is changing their houses to strings. Bowlero will make more money on making them entertainment centers selling pizza, beer etc. Having party crowd bowling.

[@robvoyles]

@@hankgolfer1 bolero is ruining bowling too., it makes sense.

[@hankgolfer1]

@robvoyles As the saying goes, "It's all about the Benjamin's" Bowlero is a business to make profits. They don't care if strings ruin the purity of free falling pins. They will make big money on party nights, food, beverages, and entertainment. Making bowling centers fun time places. It's sad because strings isn't pure bowling. I will hate it if it comes to my bowling center which in fact, is a Bowlero establishment

[@timothyhaynes5282]

Hey Darren What weight ball do you use ?

[@TBONEnoble]

If strings become the standard ill be done bowling

[@oiler62]

Same here.

[@dysfunctionaldave]

See ya guys, hope you enjoy your new hobby

[@CrowOnTheWall]

We'll just go where freefall is still a thing and watch the string pin places go under with less regulars.

[@oiler62]

@@CrowOnTheWall the casual bowler and kids/ parties won't care about strings. These guys don't even know how to keep score!

[@kenkonarzewski9961]

@@CrowOnTheWall Yeah String Pins will be the future. USBC Certified strings have been tested and are about a 1-1.5 pin difference in average at most. Welcome to the future of bowling.

[@EvsColeto]

That Final Fantasy victory music was specifically from FF7, the BEST one

[@austinbailey8076]

Was this filmed around Christmas time?

[@antheather5864]

Came here to see if anyone else noticed the christmas tree in may

[@WilfredTewawina]

We all know you were going to win dtang! Should've put the pants on for the people though!

[@surfacetension]

A long time mantra of mine: Make your spares; the strikes will come.

[@keithchrysler3732]

Nothing wrong with those string pins! Pure skill!

[@JibeAndJelly]

I never played on string pins but from what I've seen, no strings looks much better

[@kenkonarzewski9961]

The free-fall I think will always LOOK better but the give/take you get you'll notice. No missing pins or offset racks. The average is about 1-1.5 pins between USBC certified strings and free fall. Most of the anti-string pin crusaders are also the anti-2H crusaders so it makes sense. Their game is evolving and they don't like it.

[@dopereflx7203]

It is. Strings are a joke and cheating

[@kenkonarzewski9961]

@@dopereflx7203 You can say it until your red in the face, but the data backs up that the difference between USBC Certified Strings & Free Fall is minimal and more makes up for miss-set racks, saves time on stuck balls and dead wood, and saves money on mechanics.

[@dopereflx7203]

@@kenkonarzewski9961 the only part I can get behind is the fact that alleys will save money. Local Alleys are what makes this game great and people need a break where they can get it these days. Beyond that I think strings are a joke. It’s just hard to not feel like a silly carnival game…maybe it’s just me.

[@edb3877]

@@kenkonarzewski9961 Well, too bad for them. Things change and we have to change with the times. We ain't in Kansas anymore, Toto.

[@MisterJBowls2hands]

Victory cape…niiiiiiiiice

[@kenkonarzewski9961]

There's is such a weird consistency on people who despise the idea of string pins so much, and what channels they comment/follow. It's crazy.

[@Mike1614b]

string pins are fine for kids and people who play maybe a couple of times a year. period. you can watch slow-motion videos and see how many pins are pulled over by the strings of other falling pins.

[@GoodnotGreat88]

"Is there such a thing as slim when the first number is bigger than the second" Darren just casually throwing shade at 95% of adult men

[@tmay092698]

I love how the strings tried to get you in the first shot 😅

[@therealvongogh]

People don’t know about the belmo bottle vs Sean rash 🤣

[@daVibes945]

Fun Fun Fun 😅 😂 😂

[@brandonsmiley13]

Take that you bottle.. I’m fucking dying 😂😂

[@nadapuesnada7716]

String pins are one more reason why we can't have nice things.

[@Dude-etiquette]

Great video, can’t believe that you have a 30 waist!

[@ScubaChris]

I just saw the recent Walter Ray match on String Pins. A rolling pin was prevented from knocking over the 10 pin because of the string & it was commented on. Because of that i'm not a fan of them. But for leagues to house bowling it may be ok. Just my opinion.

[@robvoyles]

not my league.

[@sooner300]

When was this filmed 😂🎅🎄

[@bradleye1683]

I think it was like dec 2nd or 3rd

[@notonyourlife7939]

On the 4th of July...

[@axemastersinc3269]

I give up. How does the tape help?

[@werty1389]

when you said the coach didnt like you were talking about the other utah bowling team?

[@justinkuhn9980]

BOOOM

[@IzukuIXLilly]

I honestly didn’t notice after a while…it’s kinda like Once you see it, you’re adapting Your throw just to keep the score outta reach if you want the win

[@bradleye1683]

This was a fun night. Except for the fact that I lost the bowl off to win a free ball by one pin.

[@GenericBronzie-rx3ck]

I feel so called out. "Is there such thing as a slim when the first number is bigger then the second" I wear 32/30s LOL

[@Calebs.bowling]

He should have said that Darren had to wear polka dot pants the next time on TV

[@BasketBowlers]

TIL I learned the lanes at Texas Star Lanes were in fact repurposed. I heard a rumor that they just buried the lanes when they demolished Texas Station.

[@bigboots6114]

i will quit bowling before bowling on string pins

[@myquest666420]

Same. But only because I quit 2 years ago because of the 7 pin lol I was getting frustrated with bowling so I picked up golf instead. Probably need to go back to bowling.

[@BeaubienMM2]

No one cares if you quit man

[@bigboots6114]

@@BeaubienMM2 yes they would care because i am one of the people keeping bowling going in this country

[@robvoyles]

@@BeaubienMM2 bowling centers would, unless you own one, it really doesn't matter what you think.

[@BeaubienMM2]

@@robvoyles I do not own a center. As a bowler myself, string pins are the least of my worries, and even if it was a turnoff, I wouldn't feel the need to announce it to a KZbin comment section like all the other dramatic incels above

[@markcoleman8568]

What the date of this Christmas tree in the back round *(((

[@fozzandpeep5670]

It should be a requirement that you have to wear pants like that to bowl on string pins. That way the bowling matches the pants. String pins = arcade bowling. Install coin op machines where you pay at the lane with quarters.

[@Aaron-144]

It’s so quiet without the pinsetters….. very weird.

[@JRBowling1997]

So true. Would rather hear the pinsetter sounds.

[@stephens9772]

Filmed this a while back I see lol

[@4AustinBerube]

Exciting! i just moved here to cedar, and im doing the PBA league steven is hosting, its been really tough but fun! cool to see you at our center!

[@BananaManV5]

A shame we dont get a box opening

[@BeefyTacoCS]

Great vid. If I were to give the fella a tip, i'd recommend not crossing his arm on his follow through. Hes trying to overcrank it and is killing the drive b4 it reaches the pins.

[@jusdesireable3224]

Darren making it look too easy.

[@tomy5868]

Careful in cedar City. Children of the corn live there

[@bhartissimo]

Why? Just why? (that was before I watched the video and talking about string pins). After watching it, I'll still ask why string pins? But the challenge was fun to watch. Good video.

[@edb3877]

Why string pins? Two reasons: 1) pin setter cost / complexity; and 2) it's very hard for some bowling alleys to find a good mechanic who's willing to work for cheap.

[@bhartissimo]

@@edb3877 Those are good reasons. Thanks for sharing.

[@zackisbot]

❤

[@6538970]

A whole crowd of 11 people

[@wintonmoy5560]

That Asian dad stare did it in the tenth.

[@arthurr7866]

The Bowlero Bowling Franchisee's nationwide went eith string pins. It's supposed to help keep the cost of maintenance down but the last Bolero bowling house I went to one game of bowling was $8.+. So much for keeping bowling affordable. I won't bowl on string pins and I refuse to pay anymore than $3 a game.

[@jbivens3]

A 29 😂😂 one day you'll grow into a real boy!

[@TheGweedMan]

I absolutely could not tell that those were string bowling pins. This is a fun video to watch!

[@donaldross8597]

I imagine all the people that are talking about the string bowling probably had family members that said they were gonna quit once they quit haven't pinsetters that actually used people..

[@ceciltuttle743]

So is this the transition to string pins??

[@notonyourlife7939]

Of course it is... and just like every other forced transition to things that nobody wants, it requires propaganda... also known as predictive programming. Nothing new about it... it's a process as old as the Town Crier.

[@notonyourlife7939]

Of course it is. The propaganda wave is just beginning. You'll see. It's called predictive programming. The media has been doing it forever... it always preceeds the forced transition to things that nobody wants, but will be shoved down your throat anyway

[@notonyourlife7939]

Of course it is. The propaganda wave is just beginning. You'll see. It's called predictive programming. The media has been doing it forever... it always preceeds the forced transition to things that nobody wants, but will be shoved down your throat anyway.

[@notonyourlife7939]

Of course it is. The propaganda wave is just beginning. You'll see. It's called predictive programming. The media has been doing it forever... it always preceeds the forced transition to things that nobody wants, but will be shoved down your throat anyway.

[@notonyourlife7939]

Of course it is. The propaganda wave is just beginning. You'll see. It's called predictive programming. The media has been doing it forever... it always preceeds the forced transition to things that nobody wants, but will be shoved down your throat anyway.

[@HybRidChrome]

Mimikyu!

[@TonysMusic1974]

No string pins!!!

[@scupking]

I have been bowling for 35 years and have no issue with them switching to good string pins.

[@MrBPC76]

I guess gone are the days where looking towards the future meant hoping for improvement or breakthroughs

[@ablestmage]

I would try string pins, but i would personally go set the pins up myself by hand for each game, than play string pins regularly

[@francisdelacruz6439]

If you make the strings thin and of the material that with lighting it disappears. You cant complain about what you cant see.

[@farmboy805]

String pins are absolute garbage, and you can’t convince me otherwise. You can shorten and lengthen the string length all you want to make them “certified”, but as long as there’s still a string physically attached to the pin, it will alter the pinfall. It makes the already dying sport of bowling look even more like a joke. String pins belong in the arcade, not in certified bowling centers.

[@nevinkinzel]

But you're okay with pins bouncing off the walls and curtain, right? What hits did you see in this video that were altered by the strings? The only one noticeable to me (though I was distracted while watching) was the shot where Darren almost had the pin move into the 8 slot. (Certified) String pins will require more accuracy. How is that a bad thing?

[@jcappucino]

Ryan Shaffer was bowling a match and a messenger was heading for the pin and the string stopped it short. You could see the sudden stop.

[@iceman5117]

​@@nevinkinzelthe walls and curtain are in play. Strings are a foreign object introduced to the deck Darren had to blow his shit on that split to avoid the 90% chance of a string wra0

[@playdiscgolf1546]

@@nevinkinzelyeah we are ok with it, it’s called bowling….where more power and rotation, give you better pin action. Yep we like it the way it’s been, since pin boys….Id rather pay my son to set up pins for me than overpay a bowling alley to play an arcade game.

[@joecandioglos5405]

Loved the crinkly water bottle routine with Belmo and Rash. Not a fan of string pins, although that's where the leisure sport is going...hopefully not the pros. Free The Pins!!!

[@user-kr6ld3qb6d]

I hope strong pins are not the future the only thing string pins you should be useful as for 3-year-olds to go bowling on

[@richiebarrettjr3629]

Alot leagues has dropped out not happy with strings blame on USBC ❤

[@kenkonarzewski9961]

If there was an older lanes with the older string pins I understand but the new USBC Certified ones will be the standard within a decade.

[@jonmayer]

@@kenkonarzewski9961 then bowling will be worse off in a decade.

[@kenkonarzewski9961]

@@jonmayer That's like, your opinion man. USBC Strings have a statistically barely noticeable difference in scores from amateurs, pros, conditions, and robots. The current USBC study has proven that before certifying a specific set of strings. When did you try them out yourself?

[@mikep2390]

@@kenkonarzewski9961 And who conducted this "study"? You DO know that the USBC is, effectively, owned by the BPAA, as in the bowling PROPRIETORS-aka OWNERS? Did you think the USBC headquarters moved from Green Bay to Arlington, TX just for the hell of it? You know what organization has had its HQ in Arlington for years, right? FIGURE IT OUT. This is the proverbial fox guarding the hen house...the USBC is a separate entity in name only-the BPAA calls the shots. And yes, when you change a FUNDAMENTAL part of the game/sport, it is no longer the same-PERIOD...wake up and smell what you're shoveling.

[@ericksamuel6281]

@@kenkonarzewski9961 I actually do have a bad experience with that kind of string pin technology in duckpin bowling. I rolled a strike one time, and the strings were having a hard time keeping the pins up upon resetting them, since a few of them keep falling down when they land on the lane. I'm not taking any chances in playing 10 pin bowling that has that string pin setup, because it might run into the same problem that the duckpin lane had. Plus, the unnatural pin action when you knock down the pins, and the fact that the strings could get tangled up if you add too much strength to your roll. That's why I considered String pin setups to be an abomination to bowling, because I've seen the problems with it first hand, and I'm not gonna take any chances in bowling in center that relies on string pins as a lazy way to cut costs.

[@feqz368]

This first strike of Darren already showing some shitty ass Pinfall with strings. Please don’t keep pushing towards this direction. No benefit other than less costs for the alleys.

[@runnerboy6886]

Merry Christmas?

[@richieroyer1274]

Oh I hope not “japetto pins” you can manipulate the ropes throwing the ball harder they don’t give a correct read as a real lane. The center here that had beautiful lanes went more to the family center side and went the cheap route on the lanes and put in the rope pins. You can make the rope of the 3 pin hit ropes of 5678 pin which isn’t right.

[@RB-pc7tg]

If all centers move to string pins, I will build my own pair of lanes and free fall pins.

[@dmo8921]

String pins belong at the carnival, where they probably came from

[@playdiscgolf1546]

It’s so bizarre to me that such a large portion of a sports die hard, (who’ve kept the bowling alleys open with all their business) just get pushed aside and mocked by a select few.

[@davidmemmer3233]

Strings are coming. Proprietors like them because they are cheaper and safer.

[@bizzarroh]

Bowling? Where are the pack rips?

[@mrsir1872]

Literally doesnt even look like the pins are on strings. Am i watching the right video?

[@kirklamb3270]

I will never compete on anything with string pins. If my local center goes that route, I am done with them. The cheap route is not the best!!

[@russellgilbert3453]

I wouldn't even entertain bowling on string pins, that's NOT bowling! 🤔

[@volleyballkid]

If they do this to all bowling alley's i will never bowl again

[@fracturedraptor7846]

From down unda Belmo squints at this video.

[@squidly2112]

So, do you win stuffed animals too? .. other carnival games you can. String pins, destroying the sport of bowling one frame at a time.