Darth Dawkins Joins an Atheist Room and Discusses God's Timelessness and Time

[@theamateurconversationalis71]

If i were the author of the book Darth mentioned I'd be sending him a cease and desist letter on the public recommendations.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

LOL RIGHT!!!

[@theamateurconversationalis71]

How did you get an actual picture of Darth for the thumbnail?

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Skills

[@punnet2]

"Quantum mechanics contradicts relativity" When did he pick up a PhD in physics?

[@Dizerner]

Would you really assert you need a PhD simply to make that statement?!

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Never.

[@michjefferson77]

Whenever it suits him. Like quote mining.

[@davids11131113]

Well Dizerner, Darth is the one who always demands that if you’re going to talk about philosophy with him you need a PhD, although he doesn’t have 1.

[@Dizerner]

@@davids11131113 He talks with lots of people without a PhD. I don't personally like DD, but why lie about him.

[@davids11131113]

Darth gets immediately crushed on his self proclaimed expertise in physics so he cries and runs away…..spectacular well done Darth 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@realBreakfasttacos]

He usually runs away crying.

[@DARTHDAWKINSDEBUNKEDTHEWEBSITE]

Darth contradicted himself on the point he made about God being/not being an eternal creator God. In at least two cases (including the one in this video and another with a Muslim) he points out that God was not creator prior to creation, but I can cite numerous multiple times (I do this in my channel trailer video) where Darth refers to his Fundamentalist God as being an "eternal creator God."

[@porkyboy4226]

I've also heard darth argue with catholics and say "where does it say that in the bible"? He's a c*nt!!

[@realBreakfasttacos]

He always contradicts himself.

[@davids11131113]

If Darth didn’t have contradictions, he wouldn’t have anything.

[@2226253]

Darth should just give an ultimate primary singular physical demonstration of his gawd and end the debate. Problem solved.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Great point!

[@jesot]

In this video, Darth destroys his own position.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

He always does lol

[@davids11131113]

Plus gets crushed on his self proclaimed expertise in physics. He starts getting humiliated and just says he’s not going to discuss this anymore and ran away….hilarious.

[@mikefoster6018]

I could swear Darth Dunning has a giant document open on his screen, full of illogically confusing nuggets that he can awkwardly insist his opponents explain. It's so spectacularly petty, naive and unenlightening.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

He just has it all memorized at this point.

[@mikefoster6018]

@@realBreakfasttacos I've noticed that he often has new favourite gotcha phrases or short concepts that he won't shut up about, like he learnt them the week before, even though his overarching stuff is predictable presuppositional tripe.

[@AJ-vm8ft]

Darth clearly sleeps with men

[@realBreakfasttacos]

LOL

[@BatTaz19]

Gary sounds lonely.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Probably so.

[@dutchchatham1]

If he was a human with feelings I'd agree, but he is a pathology; and walking talking disease.

[@RussianPrimeMinister]

Never forget Gary: Nobody loves you!

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Awwww

[@zigzagzaag]

Darth doesn't even know the difference between relativity, general relativity, and special relativity.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

This is probably true lol.

[@johnburn8031]

If Yahweh is timeless and spaceless, then he exists in no place for no time. Ergo, he does not exist.

[@Dizerner]

Lol, this logic is so dumb. Just begs the question of whether space and time are all that exist.

[@johnburn8031]

@@Dizerner material things I know, or see, or feel. All else is immaterial to me. Faith, Believe without evidence told by one without knowledge, of things without parallel. The Devil's Dictionary, by Ambrose Bierce.

[@CrowManyClouds]

@@Dizerner like how 'The Watchmaker' begs the question of whether every effect must have a cause?

[@realBreakfasttacos]

True

[@realBreakfasttacos]

False

[@waveman0]

this is called special pleading, Gary will trot out any fallacy he needs to so that his 'god' can exist. Gary never debates or interacts in good faith, he spews gobbledygook (thinking he is speaking intelligently and expressing himself succinctly) for minutes on end and then loses his sh&t if anyone says more than a few words to any question he poses or in any interaction with him (accusing them of prevaricating and obfuscating and deliberately be obtuse)

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Very true

[@a-borgia4993]

Reading a book...... Present your evidence Darth!

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Great point!

[@davids11131113]

Right, if you have a good argument for a position you should be able to lay it out yourself in a couple minutes at most, not tell someone to ‘read a book’. If he’s read the book, he should then be able to give a quick summary of the salient argument in it he’s talking about.

[@ericbatterson7720]

Does Darth ever enter a room where he doesn't have Mod powers?

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Sometimes. He doesn't talk though.

[@ericbatterson7720]

@@realBreakfasttacos he couldn't survive a cross

[@davids11131113]

Darth says the other guy has mic problems, it’s pointed out Darths mic is pretty bad and Darth just ignores it….hes so arrogant he can’t even entertain the possibility that his mic has issues wow.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Yes!

[@Swifter315]

Lmao he thinks B theory entails a contradiction. “Abraham Lincoln is both dead and alive” isn’t a contradiction on B theory because a contradiction requires that two propositions are made in the same sense. B theory doesn’t say that Lincoln is dead and alive at the same time. These two events are indexical in the same way that I am “here” and you are also “here”… indexed to the person speaking. If anything A theory has the issues…. one huge problem is that we know that time dilation is true. We have known for years that there is no one “universal time”. It’s insane to deny that. Also you can’t say things like “tomorrow will better” is true because under A theory propositions about the future don’t refer.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

I was dying laughing at that.

[@twcnz3570]

Come back, LBTT!!! Gary needs you. Or someone.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

YES

[@ericbatterson7720]

Wow, its all Ad Hoc

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Always

[@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761]

Darth Darwin....scared littil 🐑,...😅

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Always

[@davids11131113]

‘I was looking at my notes and this 1 time you made some ‘noises’ m’kay so I’m not talking to you anymore’ ….wow darth why not just bottle up your weak sauce and sell it at grocery stores at this point 🙄

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Right!

[@thevulture5750]

Have you seen how the KJV Bible is mathematically encoded

[@realBreakfasttacos]

LOL

[@kokos9652]

hearing dingdong say "you don't have to be rude"...

[@realBreakfasttacos]

LOL

[@davids11131113]

Yea neither does darth, but he is rude as part of his stage act.

[@davids11131113]

‘Here, you need to read this other ‘tour de force’ book that explains what the Bible and god is all about’ …. but wait darth I thought the Bible was all that was needed for the ‘complete understanding’ and also it all depends on ‘gods revelation’ right? What a clown 🤡

[@realBreakfasttacos]

This is true!

[@Dizerner]

I'm surprised Darth rejects timelessness, usually he is a bit more astute than that; this is the logic of Open Theism. Scripture gives us clear indications that God is fundamentally in a timeless realm and still acts within time.

[@hudsontd7778]

What scripture verse indicates that God is in a Timeless Realm and still acts In Time?

[@Dizerner]

@@hudsontd7778 The major foundational verse would be Isa. 57:15, God is dwelling in eternity. We can make many other arguments such as from the name of God itself "before Abraham was I am" (not I was), and from some philosophical and logical arguments stemming from the attributes of God. God entering/interacting with time can be most seen in "the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" but is a logical extrapolation of the creature/Creator distinction.

[@hudsontd7778]

@@Dizerner ok thanks, so the next verse says. Isa 57:16 For I will not contend forever, nor will I always be angry; for the spirit would grow faint before me, and the breath of life that I made. Yahweh is projecting that there will be a time when His anger subsides, when He is no longer in conflict with people. This does not sound like timeless eternity, but that He is experiencing relationships in real time. He states that dispite Israel’s continued rebellion, Yahweh will heal Israel and cause them to worship Him through healing. He goes on to give one last warning to those who remain determined to rebel: There is no rest for the wicked. Taking Isaiah 57:15 as a prooftext for timeless eternity is not warranted. The context seems to be about God’s eternal inhabitation of His courtroom. The phrase is used of human beings. The immediate context is about God’s emotional changes in time. There is nothing to suggest God is non-temporal in the context

[@Dizerner]

@@hudsontd7778 You came in wanting to show somehow it doesn't say what is says. Otherwise this conclusion is not one you would reach. I've dealt with Open Theists, they are married to their theology over anything else.

[@hudsontd7778]

@@Dizerner it clearly says what it says and given the context of the verse its NOT talking about a Timeless God, it's clearly talking about God's relationship with mankind Creator Creature Distiction In Time. You an Atheist/Agnostic?