So yeah, turns out it wasn't as long as the Rohan one, but to be fair, I didn't get to the actual history of Rohan until 50 minutes into that video. At least in this one I got to Arnor proper after about 10 minutes. Also, I had the unwelcome surprise of putting together this video today, and finding out my audio file was corrupted. Always fun when you have to re-record fifty minutes worth of lines.
@elagabalusrex3906 ай бұрын
The dark powers clearly did not wish this video to be released 😬
@restitvtororbis53306 ай бұрын
So glad you made another long video. The Rohan video had so many little details come up that I don't think would have had a place in the more focused lore videos. I hope we get more of these soon, or at least sooner than next year 😅 doesn't even matter what topic, just whatever you feel has enough to talk about
@andrewm32106 ай бұрын
@DarthGandalfYT yet you overcame this adversity for the greater glory of Arnor.
@zaruto86 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, Kind Regards.
@celtofcanaanesurix22456 ай бұрын
the witch king of angmar's ghost is corrupting your files
@thomasalvarez64566 ай бұрын
This video is longer than the rule of most High Kings of the Noldor.
@valentusdolor37426 ай бұрын
😅👍
@talesoftheeldar86886 ай бұрын
Fingon ruled the shortest for just 17 years so…..
@thomasalvarez64566 ай бұрын
@@talesoftheeldar8688 17 years is nothing to an elf.
@dominus14446 ай бұрын
Would be cool to have a follow-up video that covers the lore of Arnor from Merp
@talesoftheeldar86886 ай бұрын
@@thomasalvarez6456 ok but a lot of things happend during fingons rule
@johnphillips47086 ай бұрын
Just happened to be playing a fresh Northern Dunedain DAC campaign when I got the notification for this video. 👍🏻 nice
@johnlogan30966 ай бұрын
What's DAC?
@johnphillips47086 ай бұрын
@@johnlogan3096 Looks like my first reply got deleted as I had included a link to the official DAC ModDB page lol. Anyways, Divide and Conquer “DAC” is a major SubMoD for Third Age Total War “TaTW”. TaTW in turn is a Lord of the Rings inspired total conversion Mod for the classic Creative Assembly medieval strategy game Medieval 2 Total War. Basically, DAC is a RTS set in Middle Earth during the Third Age.
@seawind9305 ай бұрын
@@johnphillips4708 Still have V3 where you can play as Rivendell and only have one settlement. It makes it fun to come up with new strategies
@DarthHoosier30386 ай бұрын
The fall of Arnor is ironic because its geography is much better than that of Gondor. In a fertile basin, not cut in half by mountains or next to scary step-lands mongols could pour out of, like Gondor. Arnor was defended by mountains on all sides as well as stable elvish allies. Its only weakness geographically might be the hill men of dunland to the south, who could occasionally travel and raid north. Yet it fell, and Gondor didn’t. Demonstrates the importance of the human aspect of empire beyond merely the geography.
@ingold14706 ай бұрын
That could also be why the Witch-King was sent to destroy them, if they were allowed to flourish they would be a greater threat to evil than Gondor was, especially when allied with the elves.
@brianc93746 ай бұрын
Those same hillman also seemed to integrate into armor boosting the population. Don't forget dwarves in Moriar and the blue mountains. In addition, access to the sea.
@saeedshahbazian98896 ай бұрын
I think the disaster of the Gladden fields sealed the fate of Arnor. Arnor took heavy casualties in the last alliance. The death of two mighty and majestic high kings (in potential for one) and the 200 knights and lords was a blow that it couldn't recover from. If Isildur or even Elendur survived, the kingdom would be attractive even to the southern Dunedain, and it could slowly recover.
@anti-liberalismo6 ай бұрын
Arnor's geography reminds me of Russia's geography, both were large open areas with large rivers and smaller ones, but minhiriath had a big ass gap to the northeast from which Angmar came and ravaged the land
@spacejunk21865 ай бұрын
@@saeedshahbazian9889 Arnor did fine for 700 year after the war of the last alliance, and even after being split up they did fine until Angmar and the plague screwed them. Their line of Kings is also the one that didn't fail, unlike in Gondor.
@agilitas88596 ай бұрын
Knights of Cardolan thanks you for your service!
@gideonhorwitz94346 ай бұрын
26:47 I might get flack for this but I’ve always found Fornost better suited as Arnors capital than Annuminas. Annuminas always struck me as having more spiritual significance as the city of Elendil the spot where the kings of Arnor would ritualistically be crowned than a center of administration. Fornost suited that task better it was better positioned more defendable and was able to sustain its population longer. In third age total war when playing the free peoples of Eriador I always move the captital from Bree to Fornost and its population grows faster than any settlement.
@T-Rev9516 ай бұрын
Yeah, if I remember right, the Canon from BFME2 RotWK is accurate in the fact that at the time of the later stages of the Angmar wars, Fornost became the capital because of the centuries of war, and the Great Plague from Rhovanion and Angmar simultaneously. There just weren't enough Dúnedain left in Annúminas to actually populate it fully. But when Aragorn returned and reforged Arnor with Gondor in the 4th Age, he made Annúminas the capital of the Reunited Kingdom as it was under Elendil.
@anti-liberalismo6 ай бұрын
I believe Annuminas was the best spot in the beginning and the best city of the two, because it was better suited for an defense(an attacker would have to take Fornost and later cross the Baranduin to get there), and the lake Nenuial would provide fish and fertile lands in the valleys of the hills of evendim, so the population could grow quicker. Also, I believe most of the dunedain lived west of the Baranduin of the time, they were a minority in Arnor but were still in the hundreds of thousands I think, so Annuminas was closer to them than Fornost, and though Fornost was the last city in the Royal Road from the south, it became more important because of the devastating war of the last alliance, in which so many of the dunedain and the Middle Men died, it could imply a great hit on the people west of the baranduin, which would render Annuminas less important
@Eduisit5 ай бұрын
I never saw it that way, interesting. I agree there was history and spiritual significance in Anuminas as the middle men had been there for so long. I thought Fornost was smaller so it was easier to fill with people and it was closer to the enemy and thus became the capital.
@patrickroberts295 ай бұрын
someone had to say it didn't they, you bastard!
@andrewm32106 ай бұрын
Clearly this is the place to come for the highest quality Arnor content on KZbin!
@liamgardner5273 ай бұрын
This is better than any show. Just more lore!!! A fan since 2007. Love it!
@spacejunk21865 ай бұрын
I love how in "of the rings of power and the third age" is paints the picture or Arnor dwindeling and basically going downhill after Isildur dies, but when we look we can see that the Kingdom did fine 700+ years after, and even after the split continued to exist fine for even longer.
@Benevolent_Fafnir2 ай бұрын
The irony of how the North kingdom fell but kept its Dúnedain blood mostly pure, compared to how the Southern kingdom endured at the loss of much of its Dúnedain blood.
@cavetroll6666 ай бұрын
Very cool thanks for video listening while I work
@Miami-jt2jp6 ай бұрын
I Remember when I was one of your first hundred subscribers and I kept leaving comments for an Arnor video
@saladinbob5 ай бұрын
I enjoyed that, thanks for making it. I think Tolkien's lore is so vast that it suits itself better to long form videos, but I understand why they're special projects.
@baizen16 ай бұрын
Been watching since your 4th video of the War in Middle Earth Series. Glad it's gotten this far while still finding unique topics to discuss
@kckaz4453Ай бұрын
Tremendous job. Thank you. That was very, very enjoyable.
@istari06 ай бұрын
Excellent video! I love these longer, extended looks at things so please keep them coming.
@samuelvine6 ай бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this :) - I look forward to more long length vids like this for sure!
@LadyAlaina42-c3e4 ай бұрын
So happy I found your site. I will have to listen to this again to recall so many details of the history of the Dunedane and Aragon. No-one ever seems to have a happy life what with the wars and menace of Sauron. It is no wonder so many write fan fiction to give these characters some happiness. Nevertheless, thank you for such a detailed historical understanding. Tolkiens genius continued to astound me.
@henrikg13885 ай бұрын
I think this was excellent and well researched. Yes, it's long, but I fell asleep to it last night and caught up this morning. Just what I needed. 👍
@romanmoravcik70486 ай бұрын
Can you do the same for the Dwarves?
@saeedshahbazian98896 ай бұрын
Great video! I have been waiting for this ever since your announcement, and I will be watching it over and over Now that you've mentioned it, a podcast video on Aragorn II would be amazing! With flashbacks all the way to his ancestors😍
@WhoIsCalli5 ай бұрын
Loved this long form videos. Thanks so much
@josephhoskins73546 ай бұрын
So happy that you made another long video. Thank you
@erichtomanek47394 ай бұрын
All Good things come to an End. Old Arnor/Eriador are gone. Yet they are reborn in Joy after the War of the Ring and into the Fourth Age of Middle Earth. Let us hope our own world is as Fortunate.
@Badclamz83GaMinG5 ай бұрын
I absolutely Love your longer format
@jonrhoades18456 ай бұрын
Great video man. I appreciate the effort you put into these videos and topics.
@Kartal49ful6 ай бұрын
I always womdert why nobody makes a movie or more movies about arnor. Its such a great history. And you could have much more creativ freedom
@olivierschraepen54515 ай бұрын
I would love to see one that also features the rebuilding.
@spacejunk21865 ай бұрын
Agreed. I would like to see how they managed to habe a three way civil war that resulted in a stalemate with nobody winning.
@capitalcitygiant5 ай бұрын
Please take this in the best way possible but this is the kind of stuff I love to fall asleep to 😍
@Eduisit5 ай бұрын
Brilliant, great video man. It was great, and to make it even greater, I suggest looking into pronunciation, e.g. Eriador. I’ve never heard anyone else pronounce it like you do. I’ve heard it pronounced like Err-ē-a-door, with the stress on the first syllable. Err as in first syllable in error and ē being the long E sound. Various Tolkien experts including audio books and scholars say it this way so I assume they are right. Love your work, best of luck going forward.
@grimgrauman76505 ай бұрын
I love how we don't get names for the brothers that split Arnor (something quite Important) but we get the names for a lot of Dunedain chieftains that we only know the birth & death dates. 😂
@WhoIsCalli5 ай бұрын
Did this while playing Return to Moria. Thank you 🧝♂️
@thelawfus5 ай бұрын
1:10 this humor earned a sub all on its own.
@elMentity2 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Buuuut show more maps maybe? Love maps. ❤️
@flyfisherMN16 ай бұрын
Great as always! Thanks!
@theleakyprophet6 ай бұрын
Bravo! This was wonderful.
@PeculiarNotions6 ай бұрын
Another excellent, podcast style video.
@sayagarapan16866 ай бұрын
Brilliant work DG
@teeheeteeheeish4 ай бұрын
One thing led to another, and Aragorn was crowned high King
@titanscerw6 ай бұрын
Congrats to 40K Darth ... :)
@Subo236 ай бұрын
Nice art, interpretation of Lotro’s Annuminas looks like
@paolomesterom68996 ай бұрын
Another amazing video!!👌🏼
@Seagal996 ай бұрын
Incredible review 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@Actual583 ай бұрын
Great job
@kaosdevice6 ай бұрын
great stuff! Thank you
@PigeonLif5 ай бұрын
More of these pls.
@nunofernandes47226 ай бұрын
you are so underrated my friend.
@LeonKong-w9v6 ай бұрын
Can we get a video on Ciryatandor from MERP, The land of Akhorahil?
@WedgeyPage6 ай бұрын
yes!!!! please do more videos like this
@biscuit7156 ай бұрын
I've honestly never understood the whole reasoning behind giving up on Arnor and becoming the rangers. You've just won a huge victory, there's no reason to think that they would be unpopular, and surely the realm would benefit from some leadership to help it regrow? Was it shame? It's always portrayed as noble but it seems so odd to just abandon the people, from their perspective at least.
@The_CGA3 ай бұрын
Manpower. The Numenorians had lost the manpower to hold onto the mandate of power. Claiming title when one doesn’t have the swords to pack it up tends to go badly. Internal disagreements over the succession also likely played a
@anti-liberalismo6 ай бұрын
All hail Darth Gandalf the Great!
@Pallandoii6 ай бұрын
Well done! I wonder if a similar extended Barrow Wights video would be possible in the future?
@PenguinofD00mxxx6 ай бұрын
I've been looking forward to this. Arnor is simply the most intriguing of two Realms in Exile.
@vanmars57184 ай бұрын
Can you do more such long videos? I love listening while getting ready to sleep and many KZbinrs have annoying voice or very loud music. It would be perfect if you make for characters as well. Thank you 🙏
@ajavierb20786 ай бұрын
Yeessssss!!! By the blood of Arnorrrr!!!!
@gabrielblanchard39219 күн бұрын
_Fornost Erain_ is actually translated in the text of _The Return of the King:_ "Norbury [North-Fortress] of the Kings."
@ravenhill_of_yore_1968Ай бұрын
just subscribed.
@4Bobay6 ай бұрын
I would have enjoyed being a soldier of Arnor posted to Lond Daer.
@concept56315 ай бұрын
29:03 Fracturing of Arnor 32:38 Arrival of Hobbits 33:10 Angmar
@4Bobay6 ай бұрын
Question: Did Isildur cut the One Ring from Sauron while he was down? Or was Sauron still capable of fighting?
@crabberdabberye16 күн бұрын
Sauron was utterly defeated. Tolkien states in a letter he dies from Elendil and Gil-Galad.
@thestraightroad3055 ай бұрын
Five minutes in and I’m longing for a map.
@untitled5686 ай бұрын
So Elendil just showed up in Eriador and proclaimed himself as a king? How did that go over with the people living there lol
@istari06 ай бұрын
He was the leader of the Faithful and most of the Númenoreans living in that area were also of the Faithful so I imagine it went over quite well.
@waltonsmith72106 ай бұрын
Judging the the disloyalty of the Hillmen, not very.
@anti-liberalismo6 ай бұрын
@@waltonsmith7210 according to the Unfinished Tales, the men of "eastern arnor" went to the war of the last alliance led by Isildur, those men were probably the Hillmen
@spacejunk21865 ай бұрын
The Numenorians were to normal humans like the Noldor were to the dark elves. Sophisticated, powerfull and more wise. They also had good connections with the elves and Gil Galad. I guess it was the same reason why Thingol was accepted as King of Beleriand. It was just better to have him a leader.
@TealWolf265 ай бұрын
"Well I didn't vote for you!"
@RicoThingol6 ай бұрын
Ufff gonna slowly digest this video, seems yummy, God I love Arnor!
@thesockstudios20366 ай бұрын
this is perfect to listen, meanwhile I build my kingdom in minecraft
@emperorkane3176 ай бұрын
I have a What If question: If Aragorn was slain at the Battle of the Black Gate, who would rule Gondor? Would Faramir or Imrahil have become King and start a new line considering both would have the most legitimate claim to the Throne? Would they have kept the office of Steward as the ruling figure of Gondor?
@anti-liberalismo6 ай бұрын
If Aragorn was slain I believe Faramir would have the best claim since he was a descendant of Anárion
@crabberdabberye16 күн бұрын
The rule would return to the Stewards. There would be no more King.
@talesoftheeldar86886 ай бұрын
Where is it stated that the shire was overrun ?
@bristleconepine41206 ай бұрын
I am thinking about the framing device of the Lord of the Rings being the translation of the Red Book of Westmarch, annotated after Samwise' departure to Valinor by Gondoran scribes. Those Gondoran scribes would have had access to the historical records of Gondor, but those of Arnor and other realms would be in varying states, with probably many details lost. I suggest that the history of Arnor that we have would be much richer and more detailed were Arnor's records available to them.
@T-Rev9516 ай бұрын
To be fair, i think it says in Unfinished Tales or the Silmarillion that even Arnor was just a shadow of Númenor. Much of the culture wasn't saved because Erú quite literally wiped the island out I'm less than 30 minutes. I feel like what we get is actually pretty good considering had Elrond stayed longer we might have gotten more information or if Tolkien had gone more in depth on the topic. Because Cirdan didn't take the last ship with presumably Celeborn and Thranduil until years after Sam left across the Belegaer. Sam left after Rosie passed and passed the Red Book to his children but I think Merry, Pippin, and Aragorn were all still alive and flourishing as messengers for Rohan and Gondor and as king respectively. Gimli and Legolas had yet to sail down the Anduin and to Valinor also. Aragorn would have likely remembered much of what Elrond told him and of his own studies when being fostered in Rivendell. Not to mention Elladan, Elrohir, and Arwen who had much longer to study history from their father who fought in the wars. Perhaps the new age and fading of evil and magic was just naturally changing Gondor's culture and the Fellowship and Arwen were some of the last of a bygone age.
@PerseusPhox2 ай бұрын
I would love a LOTR PC game where you can play Arnorians or Gondorians
@concept56315 ай бұрын
0:01 11:06 34:01
@ingold14706 ай бұрын
I wonder if the reason the Dunedain of the north dwindled is that their women emigrated to Gondor for better living conditions and amenities. Small towns in modern times have a similar problem, imagine how severe it would be in a society that has gone from the height of civilization to a hunter-gatherer remnant by the choice of its leadership.
@istari06 ай бұрын
This would have been a far more difficult journey at a time when people did not move around as much as they do in our time.
@ingold14706 ай бұрын
@@istari0 True enough, some intrepid Gondorian merchants would need to be involved, since I doubt Lindon sailors would help it along.
@gabrielrekt6 ай бұрын
Wholy damn 🫨
@elagabalusrex3906 ай бұрын
Except Finwe and Gil-Galad, of course.
@genghisgalahad84655 ай бұрын
Wielder of the Flame... 🔥??? 🗡 ⚔️ 😈 🧙♂️ 🌌 🎅
@astormofwrenches55556 ай бұрын
So. Many. Ads.
@astormofwrenches55556 ай бұрын
If I have to keep getting up from what I am doing to skip all the ads, the long form format becomes worthless to me. I wont be watching any of your longer videos for this reason.
@HagalSkrymir9992 ай бұрын
Sadly the story of Arnor is nonsensical, because Tolkien is clueless about population growth. And not just human population, but fauna and flora becoming plentiful as well. Also Arnor not having trade and relationships with the Dwarves in Khazad Dum and the Blue Mountains makes no sense whatsoever. The Dwarves playing no role in general makes no at all, even with the dwarves isolationist nature.
@TrashedKiller6 ай бұрын
Arnor is the western roman empire
@Skyrimkid98005 ай бұрын
Gondor is Eastern Rome/Byzantine. Isn’t Mordor supposed to represent Turkey/Ottoman Empire?