I got the Blade 6 TC for about one week now and i am pretty happy with it. The number ring is not as round as it supposed to be and there are like some black dots under the paint of a few white sections but its ok. The shop i bought it had a special offer that day: you have one dart to throw on a board and the number u hit u get that percantage discount on your stuff u want to buy. I said to mysel "f... it, i will go for Triple 20". So i aimed for Triple 20, threw the dart, the dart dropped a little bit and hit bullseye 😂 so i paid 45€ for a board thats worth 90€ 😂 man that was a great day
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
NIce! that was a good way to do a discount! :)
@TheRipper35642 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel that was exactly what i said to them 😂
@amaysaia2 жыл бұрын
Darren, loved the review. I just switched my blade 5 with a Unicorn HD2. As far as your comments about how deep the dart penetrates the board is true. I can bury a 26mm point into the Winmau Blade 5. My Winmau board was getting a little rough so I decided to try the Unicorn. The Ultra was not available through any online retailer at the time. I totally agree about the sound. The wheels do transmit the sound. The Unicorn is much quieter. Their system is does not transmit the sound as much. Also the dart does not penetrate the board as much. I loved my Winmau board and still have it as a backup if needed, but the feel is better with the Unicorn. As far as mounting the board, Winmau is so much better. I even used the center screw from my Winmau board on the Unicorn. It located the board exactly the same and worked perfectly. One side note, The Unicorn is slightly larger than the Winmau. I had trouble mounting a large surround to protect the wall and the Winmau always had a gap. It is ¼” smaller than the Unicorn which fit perfectly on the board. Yes, someone actually hit the gap a few times!
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, yeah Unicorn boards have always been a little larger, not really sure why though. Was it the standard Blade 5 you had as I do think that was fairly soft when I had one ?
@davidcummins11082 жыл бұрын
I had said that in my previous comment on the Eclipse Ultra video that price would be a factor in what board people will go for. The B6TC is €85 vs Eclipse Ultra for €90. The fact that Winmau have 3 boards in the collection gives people that choice. I’d still go for the B6TC over the Unicorn. Will be interesting to see after 6-12 months which one is more durable. Great review as always Darren.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and I was right when I said things were increasing, some of the darts that were already out have increased in price too. But I think when all the stock of the boards considered good value are gone we may be in for a shock on the next batches, if they dont sort out the shipping and other issues its going to keep getting worse. Thanks David, so are you getting a B6TC for definite, I think its also a question of whether its actually any better than the slightly cheaper dual core version too :)
@davidcummins11082 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel Totally agree Darren. Price of everything is only going one way unfortunately for the foreseeable anyway. I was tempted with the unicorn but with the release of the Winmau B6TC and past experiences of Blades I’m going to stick with them. I currently have a B5DC with nearly 2 years playing time on it. I’ll keep you posted on how I get on 👍
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Great, its always handy to hear feedback as it helps others too :)
@zt74892 жыл бұрын
@@davidcummins1108 As AdBlue supplies dwindle due to China not expoerting it, any transport that runs on diesel will be affected and supplies will slow down... driving up demand and the price of everything, not just darts.
@paullewis-canlan38692 жыл бұрын
Dart guru and comedy genius!! 🤣🤣 Brilliant as always. Will be purchasing one so hopefully it performs well.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
LOL cheers mate, let us know how you get on if you do get one :)
@focusandefficiency93592 жыл бұрын
The noise from it us terrible! I dint like the metal coming out beyond the circle either
@alwilhite90542 жыл бұрын
Good honest review Darren 👏, I've been stuck on the standard Blade 5 my last two boards and tbh love them, but looking to upgrade this winter and this ones in the running for sure👍🎯🇺🇸
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Al! :) I guess we also need to ask if we need to spend the extra, not sure it will make a difference to most people, what do you think about the price of the Triple Core?
@alwilhite90542 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel That's why I've never bought the dual core 5, I personally couldn't justify the price diff with the Blade 5 , I play about an hour a day and turn my board weekly and take care of it and they last. And tbh I may try the Blade5 dual core next ,not sure yet.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
yeah I think for most that is the perfect reason not to spend the extra, not entirely sure its need but people get into that frame of mind of wanting what ever the next latest thing is and even if the Triple Core was crap it would still be flying off the shelves as Winmau and their Blades have captured the market. Blade 5's will be no longer made though so they may drop in price and if they do then definitely get one :)
@alwilhite90542 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel I've fell into that mindset myself over the years must admit, honestly I think most premium boards are good for the majority of people. But your right Winmau has cornered the market with their Blade series and so many people think a product will change their game when honestly it's all practice and hard work not new products. But l still am looking for that perfect dart if you find it let me know🤣🤣✌🎯🇺🇸
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@alwilhite9054 LOL I dont think they have made that perfect dart yet! :)
@Patrick_B687-32 жыл бұрын
My B4DC from 6 years ago had the more Orange tinted sections and I never liked that. My previous staple/blade NODOR had better colors a few years before. I’m about to hang a new one, and think I’ll just go with a B5 std. I came from round wire boards, and I honestly think there is much ado about very little since the blade boards got really good after they lost all the staples. I mentioned below, we just hung a new B5 Std at a friends house, and I don’t see how anyone can complain about it at all. As you said here, these changes are marginal at most. There just isn’t much left to improve upon at this point IMO.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
I think the Blades have always had a less red colour and leaned more to a orangey tinge, just this one to me looks a little too orange and not nearly enough red. May be its me I dont know lol Most people dont really need the fancy high end version and will be just as well to get the standard, think Winmau has become a must buy for many though so they automatically want the top end board, may be they think its going to improve their skill at darts?
@BYGTraining2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've hated that my B4 "red" segments are really orange for years. Still play on it tho so... 🤷
@Patrick_B687-32 жыл бұрын
@@BYGTraining That’s the only real gripe I’ve had about it. My friend just hung a B5 regular and it’s Red like you desire. Going B6 I think.
@Kaylem132 жыл бұрын
Yep we have a blade 5 for the last 18 months and now have a lump of fibres about 3cm wide protruding out at the same 3cm. Looks like the darboard has a big boil, its put me off blade really but this one does look solid. Great review, let us all know next year if it holds up lol. Thanks
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 my last one went lumpy after about 6 months, hopefully this triple core cures that 🙂
@stevenismo19612 жыл бұрын
Picking mine up later can’t wait. Honest unbiased review as always. Well done Daz
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! How do you feel about the price tag?
@stevenismo19612 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel Doesn’t bother me to be honest as long as it lasts. I’m glad they’ve tried to sort out some of the main reasons that darters don’t like blade ( The darts hitting the bull and falling out ) Time will tell if they’ve succeeded. 👍🏻🎯🎯🎯
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenismo1961 yeah I think boards are not crazy expensive at this price, we just got used to cheaper prices but if they last well its ok in the long run :) Hopefully they have sorted all issues but its crazy to think there is always a little something preventing a board from being totally perfect, doubt there will ever be a board that is 100% right for all people and all conditions though :)
@ant883102 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good board. I am not going to need a board for a while, si I am looking forward to the review after its been used a while.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
if it is like most Winmau boards it should be a decent one :)
@jepatawaran2 жыл бұрын
Danggggggg! It looks gorgeous and more minimalist for my taste! I've been using my Harrows Pro Matchplay for months now, i'll probably wait for this one till they have a dealer here in the Philippines. Cheers!
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
What do they cost in the Philippines?
@jepatawaran2 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel the blade 6, not sure. The harrows pro is around $55
@russchamberlain5363 ай бұрын
I love these boards although I get fed up with the colour of the number ring so took it off sanded it down then sprayed it the actual ring itself black and the numbers white looks loads better and it’s wearing really good winmau have definitely hit nail on head with this one. Regarding the sound travelling through the rotor-locks get some of them fabric/gel sticky pads and place them on the difference is very noticeable
@DartsReviewChannel3 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@chrisf16042 жыл бұрын
Winmau really surprised me this year. A board that looks fine and did right what Target did wrong (the number ring), lots of aesthetically pleasing new darts (Firestorm, new Whitlock edition and the darts with the golden tridents on the back of the barrel) when even the new Elysian has a rather bland design...Winmau upped their game imho. Will definitely buy a few of the new darts to add to my collection.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Have to agree about the Target Elysain, this years model was rather boring and I dont even recall anyone talking much about it, if it was green though that would be a different matter lol So what do you think of the Triple Core price, is it worth it? Just interested to see what people think about it :)
@chrisf16042 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel If the Blade 6 turns out to be a long lasting board I think the price is justified. But don´t take me as a reference because as a devotee of the Bandit Duro I´m already used to that price range for a board. For training sessions on specific segments I´ll still hop over to my Samurai II as it is pretty durable and not such a diva as the Bandit can be sometimes with the spider bending when you punch the same segment over and over and missing out on rotating the board in time. Summed up I´d say that high(er) prices for decent boards don´t shock me too much...if it´s quality and durability you buy!
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisf1604 Yeah a fair assessment that, Samurai 2 seems to be a decent all rounder I think, mine has held up well just a few minor issues but will mention those when I do an update video :)
@TitoLukason Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with target's number ring in your opinion?
@antonymaddocks1918 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review on the Winmau blade6 triple core dart board. It looks like a very nice board and will probably last for years. I am using the Mission Samurai11 at the moment, which i have been playing on for a couple of months now and it's a really good quality board for under £50.00. I am undecided to buy the Winmau blade6 triple core dart board. To be honest with you, i am searching for a good quality board that's very quiet when hitting board, as my neighbours bang at me haha...
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think I dont think there is any board that is going to be a lot quieter than others to the extent you may need, I think you may need to put some soundproofing board behind the dartboard or get a darts stand if you have room for one :)
@clarkwebster1712 жыл бұрын
Good review Darren, as always!! I just bought a Blade5 Dual Core last week, not knowing there was going to be a new Winmau release. What i see first off, it looks like, the Blade 6 TC is very dirty on the surface, like a lot of loose fibers and scuffing from the cutting & sanding process? Not too crazy about those flat metal numbers either, as i can see those potentially doing a lot of damage to the tips of the points. Time will tell i guess. Hopefully you'll do a 6 month update video or such. Keep up the great work!
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, will be sure to do a few updates on it 👍
@Dpo22032 жыл бұрын
Hi buddy you need to read the press release and box . 1/ the new numbers are laser cut from one sheet of steel, reason is to make it 25% thinner so less chance of a dart hitting the wire a great idea ! 2/As for the carbon there’s a excellent reason why that’s also been used again you need to read why ! 3/ using a digital micrometer on the letters is pointless as they’ve been engineered to have less area 4/ Please base your review after you have used this new board it’s amazing . 5/ as for cardboard packing I’m glad it has less as it makes less carbon footprint excellent that the company are forward thinking . 6/ if you haven’t tried the blade 5 how can you give a honest review on the blade 6 ? 7/ The colour slightly less red means a better vision focus and less distraction on the eye Please” use “ the board and then give a “honest “ review . Cheers 🧐
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your feedback Dave, its always good that people give feedback whether its right, wrong or indifferent its good to have a discussion about it either way. Its also good that people point out if I say something thats wrong or forget to mention something important, although I have been doing this reviewing thing for over 9 years now I certainly dont pretend to be an expert at all things darts, also I am no engineer nor do I have any kind of capacity in engineering. I do ask the brands questions when I can get a chance to and am always happy to learn about the process involved in making darts and darts equipment as I mention in many videos and especially when I mentioned about the guy from One80 who explained a lot of how a board was made. My video was made and edited and uploaded before I got to see any of the launch videos or hear any of the discussions and tweets etc about it. All I had was the info on the box and brochure which was the same. I purposely did not open it as I wanted to give my very first HONEST impression on video, and as I said in my Winmau gift box video by the time my video goes live you the viewer will know more about the board than I did at that point. I did have some questions about the board specifically the carbon layer as mentioned in the video and I got a reply, I also sent other questions where I did not get a reply, presumably because they were busy with the launch. So looking at your numbered points I will try to answer as best I can. 1. I read the number ring was laser cut and that it said it was steel and I also showed the features in the video and told the viewer if they wanted to pause it they could read it in detail. But the number ring has nothing to do with the wires like you say. The number ring clips on and off and has no affect on the spider. Its only the bull and 25 ring that have been made 25% thinner as people complained the older version was too thick. Even though I knew the number ring was said to be metal, as you saw my first reaction in the video was that it looked like plastic. I was not the only one to say that too on first seeing it, others have said the same thing. 2. You cant know at this early stage if the addition of the carbon layer is an excellent idea or not, could just be a gimmick and what was said on the box was kind of vague, just saying it improved durability, again that is the question I asked Winmau about and I talked about the reply in the video. If it has been written about more in depth elsewhere I have not seen it. 3. I never used a micrometer on the letters? I did measure the scoring segments as I have done with every board and many many people always want to know the size of those segments, if you have followed darts on social media in any capacity for the last ten years you would know its often a highly discussed topic. 4. I said in video I will be updating in time like I do with every board I review. 5. less carboard packaging is a moot point, if its from sustainable sources and its recyclable I would rather it be there than to have a board that is damaged and needs sending back and a new one getting re-sent, that would increase carbon footprint even more. Same applies to the silica which helps prevent moisture, boards are often affected by humidity so if its stored badly again would rather it be there than not. 6. Who said I have not tried the Blade 5? I have tried every Blade board and reviewed them since Blade 4 Dual Core. 7. Speaking from memory I think the Blade reds have always been a bit lighter and slightly orangey but it seems a lot more orange on this new Blade 6. Could be because I have been using boards that are a deeper red recently and the orange looked worse than I remember or could be I got one that was lighter coloured. As to whether it makes for a better focus that is debatable. We all see things differently. I have not so great vision and my right eye is my worse eye and it sees things around 30% darker but even to my right eye the colour looked too orange. Bottomline is I found it more distracting than helpful. Again I have heard others mention the same. You say use the board for longer before reviewing, well once again its my first HONEST impression and I never really said the board was bad if anything I said lots of good things about it, whether or not it will wear well and perform well obviously takes time to determine. Also I mentioned the last two dual core boards I had went all lumpy after around 6 months, so I am hoping the addition of the carbon layer sorts that issue. The box makes no mention of the carbon that is stuck on the back of the board though. Cheers.
@dartsgyan80992 жыл бұрын
Winmau's packaging I have to say is not great considering their high standards of boards. They NEVER have/had corner support cardboards and those silica packets. Great review as always!
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
been a while since I last had a Winmau board and cant remember if it had the corner things or silica packs, think you are right now when I think back though. I know the board is pretty strong but they wont know how long they are getting stored for and in what conditions so would not hurt to have something in to protect them from moisture etc. Cheers mate! :)
@dartsgyan80992 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel Yeah. A few of our customers who like to keep the boxes have told they often tore in transit. This can be reduced to a considerable extent by providing corner support.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
That's not good!
@vicfairbrass28142 жыл бұрын
Thanks Darren great review, definitely wouldn't please the neighbours with the thudding lol 😆 keep popping the painkillers you've got a lot of darts to throw. Really looking forward to the updates 😀 🎯 happy darting 🎯
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vic 👍😁
@BartoniGaming2 жыл бұрын
Blade 6 triple core is the best board I've ever used. Superb. Wish the PDC would use them
@AllenJeremy2 жыл бұрын
They are using them now.
@ryanj37912 жыл бұрын
Great review. The issue with the number ring not quite fitting right is a tad annoying and would irritate me. The ultra just looks nicer IMO (and the reds are better 🤣)
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan, yeah it's annoying but it's not a huge issue, others seem to have a better one so just mine maybe. The colours not good though but board seems fine itself 😊
@dazgreen2 жыл бұрын
My number rings the same tbh
@LVPAcharn2 жыл бұрын
l just ordered a Blade 6 on the strength of this review, thank you for a totally honest post :)
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Nice one, I am sure you wont be disappointed! :)
@LVPAcharn2 жыл бұрын
.@@DartsReviewChannel It arrived today in pristine condition and l'm more than very happy with it, thank you . It hasn't improved my darts but is an absolute pleasure to use. A big improvement on the Blade 5, so much more quieter when using a Winmau darts stand. It seems so absorb the dart impact more :}
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@LVPAcharn that's great, good to hear you are happy with it. 😊
@brutus18082 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review I'm going to get the standard blade 6 not because it's cheaper but because the single cores are harder than duel cores ones and I like a harder board and I don't mind the veins in the board either I think they are much better than unicorn full stop but we won't know for a while I need a new board anyway my blade 5 is nearly a year old I play alot when I can after work I use the harrows spiral points that's why if I used standard points it would be much better
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, yeah I understand your reasoning, some prefer a firmer board. I cant remember which board it was, was one of the Blades but my darts used to sink in right to the nose of the barrel, I could hear them hitting the baseboard.
@paul1112872 жыл бұрын
What's the quietest board you ever used? This 1 seems quite loud compared to last board you did
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
I think like I say its those rota locks that cause that noise. I did a video before where I tested a few boards, cant remember which came out the quietest now. but I think its all down to how the board is fixed to the wall as much as anything. Usually softer boards are more quiet though.
@MathijnvanderHeijden2 жыл бұрын
im not sure if te color change is intentially obviously but it seems to be more in line with the shade of green and provide a more balanced overall contrast
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
I think its likely on purpose as others have mentioned, but I prefer the deeper red colour personally :)
@ArkansasDarts2 жыл бұрын
Great review Darren! I use the Shot puck system with foam wedges on my Blade 5 DC, do you think that the carbon backing is going to be a problem when I try to put more screws in it? 🍫👍
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! No it should not be a problem, think that carbon back is just a show piece sticker, dont think its the true carbon featured on the box, think its just to denote the difference of the Triple Core basically :)
@ArkansasDarts2 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel Thanks for the info Darren!👍
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
No worries! :)
@Dpo22032 жыл бұрын
It’s not a “showpiece sticker “ 👍
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@Dpo2203 well its some kind of sticker as I clearly showed in the video it was peeling off and it made no mention of it on the box or in the brochure, it only mentioned the carbon layer bonded to the sisal and the baseboard.
@AllenJeremy2 жыл бұрын
That is a unique dartboard, I wonder if it will be used in the WDF World Darts Championship in January.
@TyMarshall0072 жыл бұрын
the Review we all be waiting for the Winmau Blade 6
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Hope you like it :)
@TyMarshall0072 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel I do and I'm thinking of buying one
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@TyMarshall007 so what do you think about the price, I think all things are going up but everyone was balking at the Ultra price but dont seem to mind so much for the Triple Core?
@smiff95672 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel hard to switch from b5 to ultra due to price since I haven't really played on a unicorn very much but i ordered my b6tc earlier, it's a lot more than b5 but I've been on blades forever and it's not much more than a b5dc here in the states. Entry level boards next year will be at least twice what they are today, so probably saving over the long run.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah think many will think same as the Winmau do have a loyal customer base 😊
@missmygamergirl4452 жыл бұрын
Bit of bluetac on the rotorlock might quieten it down daz and maybe the sisal is pushed into hot plastic backboard like a bandit.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it might, people have all kinds of ideas for it, felt pads, bits of carper etc :)
@momorious2 жыл бұрын
That number ring on the bottom part looks horrible and would trigger my OCD everytime I look at the board... No way I could keep this board, immediately back to Winmau / the seller for sure!
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
yeah looks like I got an iffy one, other peoples seem to be fine
@leewilson1792 жыл бұрын
Im not the only one then where things like that are minor to most people is a big issue for me … lol 👍🏻
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@leewilson179 my eyesight is so bad from the oche it makes no difference, its only when up close lol
@AllenJeremy2 жыл бұрын
I bought one for my birthday & it cost £63.20 at Argos in Neath in South Wales.
@cyphnar2 жыл бұрын
Good review very insightful, I think the red looks a bit off too, but I'll get used to it. Just picked one up today, in the England Argos have them at 25% off so the B6TC is less than £60.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah a 25% discount is good :)
@arnoldsegundo65492 жыл бұрын
New numbering makes them really clean looking board. I'm sure it will be expensive here in the Philippines. 😁
@chrisgraves94302 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the realistic and honest review, no way o earth I could justify almost double the price of my G3 even if I did need/want a new board though as I found the B5DC too soft for my taste
@Dpo22032 жыл бұрын
And that’s why I’m happy with the blade 6 it’s not as soft thanks to the carbon .Also the tufting is different allowing longer life , But hey if you don’t try you’ll never know .
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
G3+ is great mine is still going well, the triple core may still be a bit too soft for some
@johnhance58682 жыл бұрын
Ive had mine for about a month now, im not convinced its worth £75?, it does look good but ive found the spider really turns the dart points over, im forever sharpening me darts!!
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
The spider is probably what I like best about it, its so flush to the board which I prefer. Not had any problems with points so far, my main issue is its a bit too soft and some of my darts are going up to the nose of the barrel. Are you darts going in up to the nose, if so may be your points are hitting the backboard which is blunting them or do you mean your points are getting hook noses? If its the latter then maybe your points are to thin and sharp?
@whodey592 жыл бұрын
Wish I could buy the numbers ring separately to jazz up my Blade 5 DC. But I understand why they won't do that. $$$. Btw...the shirt is real nice. Not too loud.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah keeping the number ring just for the blade 6 triple core keeps it more special
@andrewwickstead38022 жыл бұрын
I love winmau boards but…….. I just love the simplicity of the aspar so got some thinking to do
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Winmau boards have a deservedly good rep but there is always people who dont like them, thats the case with everything though, Blade should be the better board though but dont think any board these days is totally bad or vastly worse or better than another.
@northernsegageorge65102 жыл бұрын
I’m buying both the Blade 6 and the Ultra. Both look excellent. Loving the numbers on the carbon board.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good plan, be sure to update when you them and let us know which you prefer :)
@TheRipper35642 жыл бұрын
So how is it going so far? Which one do u prefer and why? I am also about to buy one of the boards u mentioned but i can not decide...
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRipper3564 wears well but very soft for me still looks good though, thinking I may be preferring the Ultra though, still too early to say for sure.
@TheRipper35642 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel thx for your reply. So according to my throwing style that is not the hardest i think the blade 6 TC would be the better choice for me right? I fear if the board is too hard my Darts would fall off the board because of my soft throw...
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRipper3564 yes it will be better for you assuming that all the B6TCC are equal and with dartboards that is not always possible due to the natural materials used.
@scottgabriele12152 жыл бұрын
Always an honest unbiased review. Love the board, [Christmas present 🎁 ], like the shirt, did you really eat the chocolate bar 🍫…
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott! LOL no I just rubbed a Jaffa on my face lol :)
@ColossalCrib2 жыл бұрын
Still using my Blade 5 from 2 years ago. Only changed it around because of the points I was using.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Doing well then :)
@scotthunter42462 жыл бұрын
The red does look a bit off. Does the coloring resemble the Shot Bandit boards?
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Think it's a bit lighter than the shot
@monkey10is522 жыл бұрын
Another great review Darren 👏
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate 😊
@vinnymac4226 Жыл бұрын
Update on my blade 6 dual core. Great board to play on but doesn't last anywhere near as long as a blade 5.
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update, I think a few have said that :)
@smonks77142 жыл бұрын
I've just brought the B6TC & it's a great looking board, the red segments are more orange, but all the colours look great, nice bright colours, the spider looks great too, i know it's a bit pricy at £75, but it's worth it, might as well treat myself once in a whilst, i think the outgoing Blade 5 dual core might have started around £50-£60 when that was released. Noticed there's not much difference in the size of the wires on the spider compared with my old Unicorn board, my old board was the Eclipse Pro, lasted well but needed a replacement, brought my board from A180 Darts. I was looking at this board & the new Unicorn Eclipse Ultra, the Unicorn feels a bit too busy around the surround, which can be off putting, the Winmau board feels just right
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
I think boards can be a bit like darts in some ways, people will often prefer one over another for various reasons but there is less consistency with boards, my B6TC feels quite soft now its bedded in more but one guy told me his was rock hard so I dont get it?
@smonks77142 жыл бұрын
That's true, for me the Unicorn board feels too much branding around the surround that could be distracting, keep it simple like the B6TC has done, plus i do like that Winmau have included a spirit level with the B6TC, which is a handy little gadget. I have the Unicorn wall clamp, which is very good, & no need for messing about drilling holes everywhere on my wall lool, I would recommend, & fits all standard dartboards perfectly, you can't have the dartboard cabinet up with it, although the surround fits perfectly over the clamp
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@smonks7714 I was thinking about getting the Unicorn clamp but was not sure it would work with all the boards I have. Whats it like for noise? My wall is a right mess with so many different holes from lights, soft tip boards etc lol
@smonks77142 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel the only noise you get is drilling holes in the wall to put the clamp up in the first place 🤣, you hear nothing other than the sound of the darts landing in the board if you put the clamp up properly & securely. A tip though, measure the clamp on the dartboard first, before putting the clamp up, the horizontal section doesn't line up with the bull but lines up with 13 & 14 segments, i think the hole [which you screw into] at the top of the vertical section does line up with the bull
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@smonks7714 ah cool I might get one soon then, I change boards around often so think it would be good for me, wonder it will work with the granboad soft tip boards?
@paulboardman2472 жыл бұрын
What am I missing with the "honest review"? I've seen it a few times now on different videos. Great video btw
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
A certain other guy was claiming because we were sent items and he was not that all our reviews were not HONEST. Cheers! :)
@garythompson1302 жыл бұрын
Very funny start to the video 😂
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
LOL cheers Gary! :)
@Violet_901-youtube Жыл бұрын
Bounce outs seem to be an issue. More then other boards I've had. Not sure if the new super wire system works to be honest
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Cant say I have noticed many problems with bounce outs but its not something I get a lot of anyway, think the way my darts land and how soft it is the darts seem to stick right in.
@zt74892 жыл бұрын
Have winmau doubled up the black ink around the trebles on this board to make it look less worn around that area as more darts pile into the board?
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
possible I guess, hard to know for sure though
@richardlewis19362 жыл бұрын
I’m really enjoying my board only had about an hours play so far. I am considering painting the number ring white tho, that’s my only “issue”
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
LOL you know I was thinking the same but having said that I got used to the Aspar number ring so its no big deal the colour of the B6 one, just like all things its a bit strange when something is different to the norm at first :) How did you feel about the price tag?
@richardlewis19362 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel yea I think you are right if I was to leave it then I’m sure I would get used to it. The price didn’t put me off at all. The previous dual core was around £60, this one is better and with the way of the world atm naturally the price has to increase also with unicorn bringing out the ultra for £75 it’s already became acceptable.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@richardlewis1936 Yeah I think its a case of we have to get used to it being more costly, think most people are fine with it if the thing lasts well though :)
@mikedell31442 жыл бұрын
Darren; really timely review. My bulls are wearing out on my Blade 5 Duo core board and I've started to look at new boards. I just checked a couple places here in the US; out of stock currently with a price tag of $119.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
The Triple Core is $119? Blade 5's will no longer be made, so once the stock of them is gone that will be it, not sure if some shops may sell them off cheaper though.
@smiff95672 жыл бұрын
Double top darts is about 127 usd shipped right now, high but it's available at least
@snipezpro95548 ай бұрын
mine shows holes when i pull out my dart it dont heal so good
@markhempenstall53792 жыл бұрын
Hope it's better than my blade 5 which is as hard a rock since the day I bought it think I'll go with the new unicorn
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
This is the problem I mention often, some people get bad boards and it's likely due to the way they get stored and transported etc no two boards are ever alike either. Hope whatever board you get it ends up being a good one then☺️👍
@barty2381 Жыл бұрын
Any ideas how I can hook up a little mic behind the board which I can hook up to my amp and speakers, so I get the thud from the speaker when the dart hits the board! That would be boss 😆
@DartsReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
LOL no idea, not sure why you would want to though, could just put it near the board?
@leewilson1792 жыл бұрын
Ive noticed on the blade boards the reds are not as vibrant as other boards, like you say more of an orangey colour. Nice board though but think its the ultra for my xmas present. Good review though as always 👍🏻
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lee, I think you are right about the colours if I remember rightly now, will need to look back on my old Winmau board reviews, but seemed more orangey than I remember on this one, no big deal but certainly like the fuller deeper red of the Ultra :)
@leewilson1792 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel Darren as you have both eclipse ultra and b6TC would you be able to measure the diameter of both boards please…. I have blade5DC at moment with a winmau surround and ive heard theres a size difference in boards. Im fancying the ultra at the moment but not if it means having to spend another £30-£40 on a new surround to fit it 👍🏻
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Blade 6 45cm exactly Ultra 45.7cm so nearly 46cm
@leewilson1792 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel thankyou mate, appreciate that 👍🏻
@leewilson1792 жыл бұрын
Im sure the winmau surround would fit over it 😬lol
@donnyruis3 ай бұрын
Great review very preciese thank you sir. ! :)
@DartsReviewChannel3 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@drewzyboy2 жыл бұрын
Do you find this board quieter than other dartboards due to the carbon inside?
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
not really, not even sure what the carbon is doing yet. I think its quite a noisy board though.
@drewzyboy2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I still have a Blade 5 dual core in good condition. Think I'll hold off upgrading for now
@petedee1232 жыл бұрын
The numbering looks good, but it'll mess up those who like to play loop
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
yeah they all get battered eventually :)
@spider24102 жыл бұрын
Great review as usual I have a mission dart light do you know if the mounting clips will fit the new b6tc as it is slightly thicker than my blade 5 Regards carl
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Carl, I think it should fit but will check when I get a chance 👍
@spider24102 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel thank you keep up the good work
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Mounting clips are tight but with a bit of bending to fit they will fit fine
@tomgengar2 жыл бұрын
I think on any board Rocky The Main Star can throw 9 darter lol . Nice review of the pretty solid board . Price seems as a bit high range .
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Rocky had 9 nine darters already, he felt like showing off 😜🐶
@tomgengar2 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel he is in any case should be main star in this review lol 😜
@TomasMisura2 жыл бұрын
since now I am proud owner of Winmau 6 DC. what surprised me that dartboard is quite soft, much softer that 5 DC. From that reason I kept also my old one as a backup because it's still in good shape regardless of a signs of lumps . On the other hand it's not so loud i can practice a little bit longer than with previous no matter I cared what my neighbors thinks about it :)
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking its pretty soft all round, sometimes my darts are going in almost to the nose
@TomasMisura2 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel have to try make my throw a little bit softer. But I'll see
@darrenbigbearflett68872 жыл бұрын
I'm getting mine delivered soon, might use my silicone wedges as does sound woody with the rota locks, great looking board 👍🎯
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Rota locks are great idea but should do something extra to them like adding a rubber plug in the thread or something to prevent that woody sound. Let me know how you get on when you get the board :)
@nadnosredna49022 жыл бұрын
Love my blade boards and my tc is on the way, not that I need a new board I like my collection though and this will nicely add to it. I devised some foam wrapped in duct tape (2 half moons) that I slide between the board and the wall, really don’t need the roto locks but use them for extra stability and really drowns out the sound. Just thought I’d share, if you or anyone else has a better idea I’m all ears. Appreciate the review, was good to see what I will be getting.
@adamkettlety86572 жыл бұрын
Would I be able to screw the gorilla arrow pro bracket into the back of the carbon fibre backing without damaging it?
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
I am not even sure the carbon fibre thing on the rear is the actually carbon fibre mentioned, the box shows it inside the board not outside, its just some kind of stick on stuff that already has a hole in it for the screw so doubt putting more holes is going to do any damage
@tomasmorrissey73242 жыл бұрын
Nice board hopefully price drops before I have to replace my blade 5 DCs one thing I would like Dem to sort it maybe it just happens to me but when tighten the rota rings my ocd tends to kick in and I overtighten dem and days caused the center screw to pull out and bring d chipboard with it maybe d new back will help but I'll f it's just sticky I doubt
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
not sure, the way things are going the prices may rise more. Yeah the screw issue is something I mentioned in the Ultra review.
@tomasmorrissey73242 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel cheers dazzer as always top notch riview so if you buy a blade 6 dual core is the only difference to d 5 DC , the number ring and the hope the bull and trebles won't be as hard
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Seems that way
@Dpo22032 жыл бұрын
The old problems with the blade 5 have all been addressed with some very clever engineering to make the new boards last longer and using some very clever carbon and laser cutting from one piece of steel on the new metal numbers But better than all that is the way the darts don’t bounce out … like other cheaper boards that I won’t mention . I feel as though a further review and more study into the engineering that has gone into this board and time will show how it is better and worth the little extra for our passion of darts 🎯 Thanks for sharing and I look forward to a follow up . 👍😎
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, I dont know but sounds like you may be involved in the making of this board, is that so? Or are you just repeating what they are saying is going to make it last longer as we cant know untill we have tried it for a great length of time? As mentioned in the video though I will be doing an update as I always do. It certainly looks like the new features should make it perform and last better and for many that will definitely make it money well spent if its so :)
@texasdonut29572 жыл бұрын
whats the difference between this one and the normal version? 3core?
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
one has one core, one has two cores and one has three cores other than that think everything else is the same, oh the Triple Core has the different number ring too
@mikehalfmoonmullins4042 жыл бұрын
Darren good to see the review before i order that board
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah let me know what you decide, that is if you are getting one or not :)
@mikehalfmoonmullins4042 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel darren going to order it late tonight due to time zone differences , any exciting news on Harrows 2022 lineup . Thank you in advance
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@mikehalfmoonmullins404 I see, hope you like it then, what do you think of the price tag? Not heard anything from Harrows, but should expect their launch in next couple of weeks I guess :)
@mikehalfmoonmullins4042 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel $120.00 u.s. dollars for triple core versus $90.00 dollars for the basic blade 6 . Not a deal breaker for me really
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, boards if they last work out a decent buy anyway, if you get 2 years or more then dividing that by daily use is not too bad, think we just got spoilt by the cheaper boards over the years :)
@martinkirwan32532 жыл бұрын
Good rieview and the red does look not red shall we say .
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin :) No its definitely not a proper red. Are you getting one?
@martinkirwan32532 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel I might but I'm happy with the mission that I have at the moment but at some stage I will definitely try one 👊🎯
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@martinkirwan3253 yeah I think the Mission are very good for the money and should be perfect for the vast majority of people its just Winmau Blades are like that must have item it seems lol :)
@CoasterRob2 жыл бұрын
I'm tempted to get a blade 6 but what's the difference between the 3
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
answer in the video
@TomasMisura2 жыл бұрын
Nice timing! I am thinking finally replace my B5DC and use it as a backup dartboard. One option is gladiator and the second one was Unicorn regardless I don't like it. Target definitely don't but this should be good choice. I have take a look if my reseller has already it in the stock and more importantly what is the price
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Hope one80 don't come out with a new one it will get very hard to choose lol
@fuzzyharold2 жыл бұрын
Nice looking board, great review! I’m still trying to wear out my Gladiator 3 maybe I’m not throwing enough darts!
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! My G3+ is still going strong too, for me they are still the best for wear :)
@popeye59892 жыл бұрын
Have to be honest not too keen on the colour. Any rumours about one80 releasing a new gladiator board?
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
no its not good that colour. Oh I hope not, already going to be doing a long term on the three recent new boards, if One80 bring out a new one I doubt I will have time for anything else lol :)
@waylandquiaoit38712 жыл бұрын
I wonder if blade 6 and eclipse ultra dartboards r competitors?
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
for sure :)
@markknowles31772 жыл бұрын
Just opened my blade 6 tc and was really disappointed to be honest hence why I found your video for the price you pay I expected it to be better built. The number ring is a key point for me. If the can’t be bothered getting that correct then why trust the build on the rest of the board. sent back and gone back to a blade 5
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Was your number ring like mine too? Heard a few comment they had the same problem so it cant be a one off.
@markknowles31772 жыл бұрын
Ye and the top left bracket for the ring was off the edge so as soon as I went to lift into position the ring just slid down. I know it sounds like a small problem and could easily remove and adjust the bracket but as a tradesman myself pride in the finished product is paramount and it just feels thrown together as opposed to trying to really innovate new boards and as I said originally if your paying more you expect better.
@VforVolusia2 жыл бұрын
Just got mine and have exactly the same problem.
@markknowles31772 жыл бұрын
@@VforVolusia personally I’d send it back like I did and buy the blade 5 dual core I can’t fault it and half the price or give the unicorn eclipse a go. I stuck with Winmau as I had the surround and halo so wanted it all to match
@gorefest99392 жыл бұрын
It's a board!!!Yeah!!!!
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Indeed 😊
@jinjunmei2 жыл бұрын
Great review. My Blade 5 is still going strong so it'll probably be a while before I upgrade. Looking forward to the Blade 7 Quad Core in 5 years! 😂
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! That will be the Blade 7 apple core as I said in the intro lol :P
@paulp.34292 жыл бұрын
were did you get the blade 6 chocolate bar?
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmHTYotmgdCBipI
@DL-zj4wd2 жыл бұрын
in the last days i decided to buy the eclipse ultra instead the aspar, but now i see this....now its clearly a hard decision
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
lol it always is, think the Ultra is pretty good to though, at least so far :)
@DL-zj4wd2 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel what i know from reviews is, that the unicorn boards look nearly perfect out of the box, never seen a broken spider or something like "holes/crater" in the sisal (dont know how to explain); my own blade5 has a really shitty OG 20 field :( but for my taste the blade 6 is much easier on the eyes in comparison with the unicorn ultra. what im afraid of is to buy a blade 6 triple core and get a destroyed OG 20 field again, or other imperfections, while unicorn has 90% perfect quality boards. i hope, you are able to understand me^^
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@DL-zj4wd Yeah I understand what you are saying. :)
@jaydoyle73802 жыл бұрын
Can anyone help me out with some info please? I got this board for Christmas. I use quite long points which vary between 36 and 41mm and they're burying themselves quite deep into the board already, considering its a new board I find it quite odd as this wasn't the case with my blade 5 dual core or most recently I had a mission samurai 2 which was extremely firm at first and I'd say after a year I'd still consider the samurai 2 more firm than this brand new triple core board I got for Christmas. Is this normal due too the triple core and winmau just having a softer sisal or have I just managed to end up with a board from a bad batch. If I use 41mm re grooved points for example they are going into the board almost too the grooves not quite but almost which is very deep for a 41mm point as these grooves are far back on these points made by red dragon and winmau which is the exact reason I use them but I fear in a month or so if the board becomes softer they will go even deeper past the grooves which is pretty crazy on such a long point and would damage the sisal if it gets to that point. Is anyone else's board soft like this and is it just the norm for the triple core. Any advice would be really helpful. Its also a lot noisier than my brand new blade 5 dual core and samurai 2 were when I first got them. Got no receipt and my local argos's are sold out anyway so if it really is a problem I'd probably just try find a normal blade 6 and put the triple core ring on that which is such a disappointing situation to end up in for a £75 board.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
dual core, triple core are generally softer boards, top layer is deliberately softer to allow the darts to penetrate and stick into lower layer. My B6TC is pretty soft too but no two boards will ever be totally the same, natural fibres are never 100% consistent and the conditions/environment will affect them in different ways too. Chances are the standard Blade 6 may be a better bet for you or stick with a Samurai 2 or try a One80 G3+.
@jaydoyle73802 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply, that makes a a lot of sense then if the top layer is specifically softer for that reason. I'm happy too stick with this blade 6 triple core as it was a Christmas present lol i was just worried I'd got a dud. I've put 2 surrounds around the board too dampen the sound of it as like you say in the review the rota locks do make the noise louder on the wall. My target corona light is helping keep the 2 surrounds on otherwise the 2nd would just fall off lol. When this board wares in maybe a year or so I'll probably switch to the standard blade 6 or most likely the blade 6 dual core as I don't really like the veins on the standard blades. Definitely keeping this metal ring for any future boards though as it does add a nice touch of class lol.
@jaydoyle73802 жыл бұрын
Just another little question I was wondering if you've got the answer too or ever noticed. Do you know why winmau boards in particular seem too come with white smudges on the black areas it's happened on every single one I've ever bought and then more develop over time. Sometimes I've had to use a sharpee after a 6 month period lol. Didn't happen at all on the samurai 2.
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@jaydoyle7380 Sorry for late reply, some KZbin bug seems to have stopped a lot of comments, got around 40+ new ones today that seem to be from about 3 to 4 weeks ago and a few even longer. Not sure about the smudges, could be something to do with the ink not drying right or maybe the way the spider is pressed in and some marks are left on the sisal?
@digmastersi80262 жыл бұрын
Gladiator 3 is the best value board on the market. 😉
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
It is now, let's hope they don't raise price of that too
@chrisf16042 жыл бұрын
Nah, but the Gladiator3+ surely ranges in the top 3. I play most of my sets with Firestorm Onyx points from Target and the Samurai II wears off way slower than the G3+. While the Samurai does take my two hours of daily practice quite well even after more than half a year , the G3+ became softer and louder (!) only after two and a half months. The G3+ indeed is a good board, especially when you can fetch it in a sale, it is pleasant to play on and has colours superior to the Samurai, but if you play a lot, then durability is what you´re interested in the most.
@dionysis842 жыл бұрын
I got a few newer ones then they release all these beautiful looking ones. Ive got to try this one and the new target one as well as the unicorn. What one do you like the best????
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Think it's going to be between the ultra and the Blade 6
@dionysis842 жыл бұрын
A man can only have so many dartboards. Ill be putting them in the bathroom if I keep buying more! Haha
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@dionysis84 LOL dont do that the moisture will ruin them :)
@mrmods79122 ай бұрын
Packaging of this board is a disgrace! Good luck on getting a good un!
@FingerTriggr2 жыл бұрын
the number ring is just bad, good review
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, think others have a better number ring than mine, guess I got a bit unlucky 🙂
@TheZeSnow2 жыл бұрын
Where's the update man? :D it's been 3 months
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Soon
@Oioioilarva4462 жыл бұрын
Hello bro can you review the exact? And great vid
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I will be reviewing them soon 👍
@Oioioilarva4462 жыл бұрын
@@DartsReviewChannel letss go!!!
@CoasterRob2 жыл бұрын
Will you be doing a review on MVG Exact darts
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
yep
@johnholmes1252 жыл бұрын
Can't be any worse than the shite unicorn boards for me the bulls advantage 3 is still the best board ever made after 5 years still looks like new
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
you used the Unicorn Ultra too? Not tried the BA3 but had a BA2 it was rock hard and lasted fairly well but spider was rubbish, lifted and bent. One80 Gladiator 3+ has been best for me so far.
@hongvtm49292 жыл бұрын
Hi darren i has important news for you (PDC) professional darts corporation with be partnership of winmau blade 6 triple core sponsor for the cazoo premier league of darts 2022
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know 👍😊
@shotgundamien2 жыл бұрын
Made in kenya?
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
yes
@shotgundamien2 жыл бұрын
By any chance have you tried boards not made or sisal/paper/cork? Materials like abaca or hemp fiber?
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@shotgundamien no I havent, heard of them though
@johnholmes1252 жыл бұрын
Also sounds noisy
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
it is
@drewzyboy2 жыл бұрын
Is the Blade 6 Carbon noisier than the regular Blade 6 ?
@DartsReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@drewzyboy not tried the regular one but will fairly soon