BlendOS: The Future of Linux Is Immutable

[@advaitc2554]

And for your next video: NixOS vs BlendOS cage match! 😀 Be interesting to hear you give a detailed comparison (pros and cons) of NixOS and BlendOS. Which one is best for which use cases. And a comparison of the technical skill level needed to learn and utilize each one. Cheers! 🙂

[@dasgeek]

I like that idea a lot. Cage match, who will reign supreme!

[@arimcbrown]

​@@dasgeek Pff, that's easy.. Muffins

[@FengLengshun]

NixOS skill ceiling is frankly insane. I've taken a look at some of their pkgs source code and package testing process. When people says NixOS devs are perfectionist, they're only slightly exaggerating. Mind you, the skill floor isn't that high either - take a look at fleek, and it's as easy as a normal package manager until you decide to eject fleek to independently manage your home-manager config, after which you can get into NixOS and flakes at your own pacing.

[@davidwayne9982]

If all you need to do to run it - is set up the containers.. why the heck didn't the developers just go ahead and put the damn containers in it and have it ready to go out of the freakin box? Doesn't make sense to me.

[@noreasonwhynot4548]

In less than 3 months you'll hop again.

[@dasgeek]

Rude! Maybe 😂

[@Mohammed_x]

@@dasgeek lol did you 😂😂

[@dasgeek]

@@Mohammed_x nope still using BlendOS ...I win

[@Mohammed_x]

@@dasgeek yeah you did it your a man of your word 🙌

[@Elsass68Powaa]

Thank's for this review ! The only one i found for blendos v3

[@dasgeek]

Thank you so much!

[@xellaz]

I started on Arch and now on Debian... I was skeptical at first but BlendOS indeed seems to be amazing with all the features you have said. It might be my next distro to hop on. I'm still on Debian 11 and was waiting for a while for Debian 12 to mature a bit.... but I might just switch to BlendOS instead if everything checks out after testing it. 👍

[@oscs4556]

I’m on Nixos as primary driver now. Before that, I was fedora kinoite with ublue but recently, it got instability problems. My home lab server and other laptops use OpenSuse micro os and OpenSuse kalpa. The home lab server run itself once everything was setup - sometimes I even forget I got a home server running in the background.

[@vortekx7339]

How is it for gaming?

[@ScottManser-eu2pg]

Hello Ryan. Are you still using this distro?

[@MrWilliams001i]

Can you unplug a controller in steam and plug it back and still have control? I lose control when using distrobox in Bazzite.

[@davidwayne9982]

Runs on WAYLAND then?? (for android to work)..??

[@N3yo100]

So if I get it right its arch based with the software from fedora denim Kali Ubuntu and the aur etc ok and its point and click I will check it out

[@TecKnowFreak]

You should make a vid showing how u set it all up no one has any showing the steps this would get lots of views too!

[@unclefester9113]

Please answer one thing..... Why Why Why - do some Ubuntu derivatives write the Distro's name into the Boot Menu - whereas many Ubuntu derivatives only list Ubuntu.... this is challenging when there are multiple drives. PoP writes its name. Others don't...... Editing the menu is more trouble than it's worth.

[@MinuteManGameReviews]

Blend os vs vanilla os, witch one is better?

[@davidwayne9982]

I can install it just fine-- can't figure out how to do the rest of it. Doesn't make sense to me. I do pretty much everything with Debian- and some with arch CLI stuff too- but this confuses the crap out of me. IS there good written directions on doing that stuff somewhere? SIMPLE ones-- many of them say" just do this" and they go off with something that sounds simple only to find out they never described a third of the moves it takes..

[@TheGodzilla2201]

I believe if Blend OS we're to get Windows FIle System support it would make Windows users stay with Linux.

[@DalliMadhuSudanReddy]

Please do the video on installation of BlendOS

[@ShaunakHub]

I have used Silverblue for sometime, while it is mostly good - but sometimes it is a real pain in your backside.

[@davidwayne9982]

IT looks and SOUNDS great- and I'd love to use it- but i'm not TECHY... how do I BEST go about it and finding out HOW to do it RIGHT??

[@RarefiedError]

looks way to heavy for my Nehalem box, in addition I had to hop off Arch & Manjaro due to broken PGP keys during updates. Which was not confined to one machine. Problem followed me to separate offices and ISP's. Hopped to mx23 , problem cured

[@No-name-is-left-to-choose-from]

what about vanilla-os ?

[@1982ballou]

Blend os has a problem with nvidia . I could not install it on my hp pavillon. During installtion : terminate plymouth boot

[@abhish3kkk_]

blend os beta is limited period or a lts release?..and does blend os supports integrated intel iris xe graphics?

[@dktol56]

The documentation for blendos looks pretty limited. I'd like to see more detailed info on the internals, along with administration (command line tools) and customization options. I really want to know how this thing works before making much of a commitment. It seems to manage the arch host os image updates from ios files downloaded from some repo using zsync. Interesting, but confusing.

[@bubnov]

what can you say about this OS after 4 months of use? do you use it till now or you just tried it?

[@oscs4556]

Would love to try blendos but couldn’t install it on my spare tester laptop. Also, there was no option to encrypt the drive.

[@davidwayne9982]

So I can set up the other containers, and then work in DEBIAN- and let it all work together?

[@seasonfilms9375]

Do you know if maybe installing SImple KVM to run mac OS is easier now than on Mint? I have had a very difficult time on MInt trying to install so I wonder if it's time to once again switch distros! Uhh!!

[@shivrajsingh8661]

This operating system is not installing properly in laptop just only showing on video

[@motionthings]

The "bus factor" on this project is not good Looking around the GitHub repo, it's only one developer?

[@michaelharmon5502]

For people using 2018 or newer intel Macs with T2 chip, at the moment only Gnome and Plasma by KDE are supported, but they do say others will become available in the future.

[@This-Is-The-End]

Distrobox ?

[@rml695]

I prefer Silverblue myself due to the default GNOME desktop. As someone who is visually impaired, GNOME is the go-to for accessibility options that don’t have to be manually configured or installed.

[@AlwaysGeeeky]

I’ve been loving vanilla os for the last month, is this much different or is there any primary differences?? Love your content!! DLN!!!!!

[@dasgeek]

I do t know a ton about Vanilla, I know it has multiple package managers but I don’t think it has the same level of options. Vanilla looks awesome too though!

[@Aoitori365]

@@dasgeek Vanilla was first they use basically the same technologies but implemented slightly different

[@albu2b1]

I know I'm a bit late but this is Fantastic, thanks gonna put it on my laptop now, thanks so much appreciate this.

[@trey_a_12]

blendOS vs VanillaOS?

[@logichog4181]

I'm gonna try it out this weekend

[@fabricio4794]

I Will Try to Distro hop on this...if Fill all my needs....i adopt is as my Main OS

[@gh0stcassette]

This is cool, but it kind of just seems like a more limited version of Bedrock Linux, which allows you to do the same thing (mix and match components from multiple distros), but with any distro you want, it even lets you use kernels and init systems from different distros

[@gh0stcassette]

The only potential advantage here is the immutable root fs, but that's not really my cup of tea, I'd rather just use ZFS or btrfs snapshots to rollback my root fs if something breaks after an update

[@bhody]

OpenSuse MicroOs is better...

[@TJWolf]

Haven''t seen video from you some time . hows things DASGeek. Looks amazing can't wait to try it. Can you do custom window manger like eww in it. not sure if tried that with hyprland and eww.

[@dasgeek]

Things are well! I haven’t tried yet, great question I will look into it.

[@nunyobiznez875]

An immutable OS is great, for some public terminal or for embedded devices, where the hardware manufacture wants to be able to lock you out of your own device. I know there are other advantages, but at least for my own personal system, no amount of advantages can make it worth all of the other hurdles and hassle that also goes along with it. So beyond temporary, I'd probably never use an immutable OS myself. But, the other aspects shown of BlendOS, are quite interesting.

[@Vampirat3]

What hassle did you have ? Clicking a button and following two instructions ??? Skill issue.

[@GoonyMclinux]

Dude...... Linux quit being hard years ago, it takes longer to install drivers and software in windows than it does to install linux, watch a movie and eat lunch.

[@nunyobiznez875]

​@@GoonyMclinux Well, uh dude, I have to wonder if you know what immutable means? I think you'll find it takes a very, very long time to install drivers and software on an immutable system, like forever, because that's the whole point of immutability, it's read-only. And yes, I find that a bit of a hassle to work with when I want to install software or make config changes. The only way to make changes to an immutable OS, is either re-image the entire system, or to use overlay fs layers, which are additional complexity and hassle.

[@kylerjohnson988]

@@nunyobiznez875I haven’t found it to be time-consuming or complex to install drivers or any other type of software on an immutable distro. FS overlays are not unique to immutable distros. For example, the .bashrc file (along with most “dot” files you’d normally have in your home directory) is essentially a fs overlay that overrides default config for that user. So I’m not sure I understand how immutability adds complexity there when it is already a well-established pattern in every distro I’ve ever used. The only issue I see with immutable distros right now has to do with multi-user management. It’s easy for a user to override the defaults for that profile, but what if i want to make a global change for every user on the system? Since we can’t modify core (or at least it’s frowned upon to do so) I’m not sure if there’s a way to handle that.

[@advaitc2554]

Sounds really cool. Can BlendOS make it easy for me to install the latest version of Ubuntu *with* Btrfs? Or do I have to do some complicated terminal commands to do this? I'm a Linux newbie so I know next to nothing about the command line. I've been using Ubuntu for a few years but I only know 3 or 4 or 3 simple terminal commands. That's it. Thanks for the great videos! Very helpful for a newbie like me. Cheers! 🙂

[@dasgeek]

You can get latest version of Ubuntu but not with BTRFS. You wouldn’t really need it in an immutable OS

[@advaitc2554]

@@dasgeek I'm now downloading BlendOS to try it in a VM.

[@dasgeek]

@@advaitc2554 Let me know how you like it!

[@TheLotw]

It does nothing more than what you can do with Distrobox on any distro you install. You could use Debian as your core OS and still have the aur, etc using Distrobox, plus distrobox allows for some added functionality. I was impressed by BlendOS at first, but the more I have tested regular Arch linux with distrobox the excitement for BlendOS is falling. The only main difference is the immutable system and their GUI for the containers, which is limited right now. Also if you are a Arch or Fedora user normally and like the kernel updates those two give, well you wont get it in BlendOS, it takes weeks or longer to get a kernel update. For instance BlendOS is on 6.3.9 and regular Arch is on 6.4.7.

[@tryanderrorworld7421]

Is it bloated?

[@arimcbrown]

Man, I love that thumbnail. Nailed it! Will this distro snap the rest out of existence?

[@kimtaiferragamo]

I installed Blend Os...........nothing but problems..........

[@gogereaver349]

running vms on top of vms i bet. with flatpack and aur if arch or flatpak and rpm-fusion if fedora there is really nothing you are going to be missing package wise. even the guys that make this say there targeting more devs then everyday users and in that context this os makes sense.

[@FengLengshun]

What is great about blend is that it does the import-ing automatically. There's good and bad side to this. On one hand, it's more convenient than typing binary/.desktop path to export in Distrobox. On the other hand, for some people it's just more work to get it to import only what they want. Personally, I'll stick with Distrobox, because I'm used to it and I now just use bazzite-arch image to get Steam and many gaming tools pre-installed.

[@belthazor6415]

Thanks I’ll check I out

[@sohrobby]

All I heard is “NixOS is the future of Linux”.

[@PestisNonSapien_GMO_exHuman]

I've been using greybeard(suse microos) and ublue(fedora) but was never a fan of RPM distros. They both use distrobox. It sounds like blendos does the same thing. But since the host is Arch it is far better than the immutable RPM distros. On the downside I'm not seeing sway as an option. Sway works on the evil RPM distros though.

[@Jeff_Seely]

It is very cool, no doubt. But perfect would be that anyone could install, configure, and live in it. It's just not there yet but it will for sure!

[@jonjonr6]

I don't understand why my settings only have options for setting up containers. There's no android apps or anything else. So far, I'm not impressed with this distro.

[@lsdowdle]

You can pretty much run any distro's appplication on any distro (immutable or not)... with distrobox (which uses podman or docker). BlendOS is "so amazing" in that it does what all of the others can do. dog bites man.

[@tomsk]

Yeah but it uses containers for it, so there is huge performance bottleneck for example in gaming.

[@dasgeek]

I haven't noticed bottlenecks but I will pay attention to see if that arises. Gaming works really well.

[@tomsk]

@@dasgeek ah okay thanks, I was reading somewhere gaming in containers and it was bad, but maybe it got better 😅

[@rudrasaraswatubuntuunity7537]

blendOS dev here; not really, no :) Unlike VMs, containers use the host's kernel (they're essentially namespaced chroots), so there simply isn't any such thing as a bottleneck as long as the host's drivers are available inside the container, which blendOS handles during container creation.

[@tomsk]

@@rudrasaraswatubuntuunity7537 ah hello, great! so for example if I install Lutris, use Nvidia proprietary drivers, then install some game, it will run exactly same as native?

[@bosmanka]

@@rudrasaraswatubuntuunity7537 This whole container thing sounds a lot like Solaris is the good old days

[@Aoitori365]

FYI before anyone decides to use this try it in a vm first i installed it on hardware waydroid does not work at the moment no idea why i followed the barely documented instructions in the settings app and this is on the release it is not a beta but i guess expecting a distro made by a literal child to actually work the way it is supposed to is false

[@colbybraden]

I've been using Universal Blue for over a month now. Amazing immutable system. But having one based on arch has piqued my interest. Maybe I'll spin it up on my laptop later today to test it out

[@TrustJesusToday]

Debian 12 is perfect.

[@saumyacow4435]

"Sounds awful" - Marvin the paranoid android.

[@gogereaver349]

just sounds like a whole lot of overhead you really dont need.

[@Cos1331]

So... , where is "my NVIDIA " panel in this RUSSIAN DOLL distro ? ( actually a Virtual Box with more Virtual BOXES inside ) . From where gets my gaming laptop performance ?

[@locutusofborg2362]

Reminds me of the joke about a frog in the blender.

[@moshesabovich9362]

I don't DistroHop ! I like and use Mint!

[@locutusofborg2362]

I fixed the name BLUNDERos

[@Vampirat3]

Yo , hey so are these all containerized ? Can you re- containerize ? Need that one. I would say for sure , is the future, yeah. Immutability is simply basic security . Interesting though. Ty , and good review. I will review and maybe be back.

[@raderator]

Looks like they're copying Zorin. Best looking distro.

[@vanessaaduran6376]

"I found the perfect distrobution" Red flag! Immutable system is not knew in Linux. Just install Linux on spi flash and power cycle and wala an immutable system.

[@marcello4258]

Man man.. auf nem Server willst du das sicher nicht haben.. wie kann man von Zukunft reden? Außerdem finde ich es auf dem Desktop auch total unpraktisch. Nutz einfach podman und nen stabiles base wie debian

[@drkwrk5229]

Indiabased distribution again, it's a virtual problem init.

[@gxtoast2221]

Immutable OSes should use immutable programming languages. Period.

[@each1-teach1]

*THANOS OS!!!!*

[@mavfan1]

I'm going to annoy people by calling these unchanging distros instead of immutable. Just because.

[@ShravanZende]

Thanks for the video! Did you know blendos is made by 13 year old Indian kid!

[@davidwayne9982]

I'm NOT concerned with IMMUTABLE.. I keep ALL my data on a separate drive-- ALL OF IT- so if my system goes south- big freakin Whoop-- I just reload it and go on.... and even with MX-- you can make an ISO out of your system set up YOUR way- and just reload the damn thing!!! The only thing I'm in need of- is being able to run my ANDROID app from my SECURITY CAMERA SYSTEM on my computer too in addition to my phone.... Other than that-- SCREW the immutability-- that is not big plus.. and NOT needed. I tried my BLINK android app on BLEND and VANILLA OS too-- and it never worked on EITHER.. no matter what these "promoters" say.

[@YouGotOptions2]

is it true that this OS was created by a 13 year old??

[@alfredwilmington3587]

U T T E R N O N S E N S E !

[@elmariachi5133]

Evolution is proof that ummutability never had a future ;)

[@locutusofborg2362]

DELUSIONAL much? The FLOCK Immutable is not Linux's future.

[@catchnkill]

Agree. Linux users are not those users for immutable os. However, it is not wrong that it is the future of Linux desktop. It is the same way as IOS, Android and macOS. If you are using those OS and ok with it but not ok with using the same tech in Linux desktop, you are a hypocrite.

[@nawazwaseem2219]

Linux is still dead my man

[@linuxramblingproductions8554]

Thas crazy