Date from Hell: Dating Narcissists and Psychopaths

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Think narcissism is just about being self absorbed and the superficial good looks? Think again. Narcissism is a deeply dark disorder that can tarnish relationships, careers and your own individual self. Think you're a narcissist? Or think you're dating one? I speak with Sam Vaknin, author of Malignant Self-love: Narcissism Revisited and a twice diagnosed cerebral narcissist, to delve into the deeply dark world of narcissism and learn about the traits!
DURING THIS EPISODE, SAM AND I TALK ABOUT:
The narcissist traits: Do you blame others for your misfortunes? Are you being hyper sensitive, always feeling slighted by what someone has said or done?
The different narcissist types.... those who use intelligent versus those who use sexuality to get what they want
Traits of the women who date narcissists.... has he professed his love for you on your first date? Wants to be exclusive on the second date? Plans to have children by the third?
Think narcissism is just about being self absorbed and the superficial good looks? Think again. Narcissism is a deeply dark disorder that can tarnish relationships, careers and your own individual self. Think you're a narcissist? Or think you're dating one? I speak with Sam Vaknin, author of Malignant Self-love: Narcissism Revisited and a twice diagnosed cerebral narcissist, to delve into the deeply dark world of narcissism and learn about the traits!
DURING THIS EPISODE, SAM AND I TALK ABOUT:
The narcissist traits: Do you blame others for your misfortunes? Are you being hyper sensitive, always feeling slighted by what someone has said or done?
The different narcissist types.... those who use intelligent versus those who use sexuality to get what they want
Traits of the women who date narcissists.... has he professed his love for you on your first date? Wants to be exclusive on the second date? Plans to have children by the third?

[@mayleaf7831]

we need them out of child protection and family law, they are dangerous psychopaths getting custody of vulnerable kids

[@monikakristina1402]

True. How can we do it?

[@donnasmith6037]

My ex is bipolar manic depressive but in retrospect a narcissist as well . I was a gullible empathic codependent. I looked at him and myself and saw what we were . I divorced him and moved . He put a camper in my driveway and stalked me for years . Finally a judge made him leave me alone. I’m so free now . It’s like a boulder lifted off my psyche .

[@charlottebruce979]

To put a clinical name to his behaviour was one of the most liberating feelings I've had. I'm surprised my head hasn't exploded with all the nodding with agreement I have done with all these enlightening videos about narcissism. I knew there was something wrong, at times I questioned myself as he blamed me for his cheating. Now the love bombing, the robotic personality, the non empathy, the cruelty, the way he would smile when he told me something upsetting, the need for constant adulation and admiration from dating sites, from work colleagues, from strangers on the streets, the discard, the hoovering all makes perfect sense. Thank you Sam for putting so much effort in researching this condition, for the no contact rule, for giving us the word supply for this condition, the list goes on. I'm not alone in this and for that I truly am grateful.

[@Solus793]

With 1 word only. Psychopath: Cold Sociopath: Hot Narcissist: Hollow

[@samvaknin]

Narcissist vs. Psychopath samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders15.html

[@ladylovesherlord]

All of them are: Shallow

[@angelagail7620]

Good way to put it. Definitely know the sociopath .

[@jdncoke2]

god bless his honesty, 'it sucks', i was quite touched for some reason

[@jessiccabatista6044]

So was I. I felt bad for Sam.

[@jonm1365]

this explains why I cant hold a relationship , keep losing jobs, have a My way and my way only attitude, very violent when pointed out and exposed, cold, bi polar, and emotionless

[@lovereadingsnyc]

How are you now?

[@landlubbr]

@@lovereadingsnyc Probably still the same

[@nikkireacts2180]

Get help

[@MrClaike7]

​@@nikkireacts2180there is no help for such people

[@hdecker1000]

Scary. I was with a somatic.First year great, second was hell. Sad part was I did see warning signs after a couple of dates when he thought someone was picking a fight in the bar with him after a concert. There was no one there. He was hallucinating. I told him I was done and he had a sit down with me, and said he's had a cocaine problem for years and I was a good reason to stop. He started the love bombing. Jewelry, dinners left at my door, travel, concerts. I went away one weekend at the 9 month mark to see my kids.I don't know what the heck went on when I was away but he flipped the switch over night. But never went away. I became a once or twice a week date. I kept telling him to go away and he'd creep back in after a couple of weeks sending me youtube videos at like 3 in the morning of songs. Up doing coke no doubt. Loner type, quiet, family construction business which enables him. Just works there. His brother runs it. He lost his place in the business due to his ways. Went to reform school in high school, dropped out of college, went to rehab, that didn't last, in jail for a month for drug possession. Has lived in the world of Grateful Dead concerts for years. Tethered to his parents still big time!! Has his own house(builders) but catering to his parents all the time. We went to Florida and they are down there 6 months a year so we spent the weekend there, went to Miami Mon thru Fri. and returned to the parents the following weekend because heaven forbid we miss Sunday dinner. Says his father didn't pay attention to him or come to his games, but yet he's the kid that never cut the cord. Got married, cheated and the ex has given him minimal contact. In spite of that, she has been drawn back into the harem herself. Never has had a boyfriend since. 17 years. What a bizarre world I found myself in. Now I look at him like a mentally ill, zombie. But it really does screw with your mind. If I had walked away at 9 months when the trouble started, I would have been better off. The second year of back and forth is what screwed with my head. You are longing for the return of the good times which never come back.

[@alysfreeman11]

I like the metaphor 'alien', makes sense as they are wired completely differently to the human experience. Family or origin subsequent relationships....after a while you realise they are not who they are in real terms after invested yourself. It is a scary place when the mask falls. I can't recommend Sam's work enough, plain and clear work which has opened up answers for many people. And you are so so right about dating sites, it's a hunting ground.

[@madelineeppley9917]

absolutly so true my ex husband.so distant from his family.uses you and treats you aweful.not a care in the world about me or his children.enless i threten devorce.he dont want to part with his money.not our money.only his.so glad i left.our children suffer a great deal of pain.he thinks that im the reason they have problems.even when they tell him its you.he still blames me

[@eastbaysf]

I dated a narc once .. it was a roller coaster ride from hell.. he would sabotage our dates by showing up late (while waiting in the car and watching how I act and to see how soon I left). You are always guilty for his problems. The wedding proposal came on the 2nd date.. and he offered his last girlfriends ring. Sicko from hell made me give him tons of cash and left me broke and homeless. He took me for everything and left.

[@theronzonie]

+eastbaysf wait second date? lmao hold on second date?

[@eastbaysf]

***** Jill, I was 36 at that time and still trying to recover,, I am 54 now.. It was like total mind control. Its scary to think hat kind of thing can happen to a smart and witty woman. But that's narcs for you.( I saw a psychiatrist)

[@josjos2729]

I dated him for exactly 2 months, my very first narc that I was aware of. From day one he told me he has nothing to give me. So I thought casual would be fine but then he started demanding my attention and texting me at midnight threatening to walk. I told him to walk, I have no time to beg any man to stay. Our conversations were crazy, one minute praise one minute putting me down, one minute saying this another the exact opposite. And he loved texts. He always implied I could never leave and he admitted he is fucked up. That fooled me for a while because I though narcissist don't admit they are fucked. But he called me crazy alot and he had too much drama it was exhausting. He even started taking my a identity and talk like me. He made me start liking him alot and every time I said it, he just laughed at my face and The last time he was so loving and sensitive he gaslighted me just a day after. And told me he really can't be with me. I was ok then. I move on and find someone better for me. It took only three days for him to come back. You know the silent treatment was now obvious. But I thought he gaslighted me he should not come back like he does with a stupid move. But I knew he would come back like always. That's when I chose to tell him to never ever contact me again. Apparently I am carrying his child. Too complicated but I never want to put my child in that psychos life. ahhh life!

[@rremyy1]

My ex gf was also a narcissist and always sick on dates pfff really crazy and lies lies lies with charm and you believe everything in the beginning they make you crazy!

[@evaharris5239]

@@Suite_annamite yes I even got two proposals and never a real wedding. Once we lived together he would always be late when we were leaving the house risking me getting to work late. One time I just left without him and he ran after the car haha.

[@christinehaigh9807]

I find the control freaks have absolutely no Patience. By the way, great video!

[@janetwilliams5765]

I met someone recently who seemed great, but for some reason he kept talking about his health, loving the attention asking me for advice over and over I left feeling drained. Narc alert.

[@lisclm]

thank you Sam for all your info!! My former narc use to tell me we were from different planets!! He was truthful about that!!

[@Tomatoman857]

So many topics in this video! The most important to me, however, was just accepting that she was a narcissist without understanding. As Sam said, you must be one to know one. I always seek to understand, to perfect, to find the answers, no matter how hard I have to work at it to do so. With her, after so much emotional capital was invested before I understood what she was, I tried even harder, believing I could "fix" her by loving her. I was wrong, so wrong. I only made myself a bigger source of supply. I learned to accept the unknowable and move on. It was that or perish. It took 4 1/2 years, but she's long gone and I'm wiser for it. Now I can spot 'em a mile away.

[@Miss_Maggie]

I envy you. I'm still living/trapped in it.... He isolated me, ruined my life & depleted every resource I had to get out.

[@debsabatino311]

Jim Griffin, 4 1/2 years for me too. The most confusing relationship. If I'm ever even a little confused in a relationship again, I'm gone! When I was discarded like a piece of garbage, it made those 4 1/2 yrs wasted, a lie! It's despicable.

[@Tehgamerstation]

That was an compelling talk. Or monologue.

[@627pts]

something everyone should know about ....sadly i admit i allowed myself to be a "victim" in a relationship with one for most of my 30's (at a very vulnerable time in my life ). still trying to understand it and myself ever since . It was the last relationship i've allowed myself to be in..I hope it's not a sort of permanent "damage" that i am trying to recover from.......5 years later :/ everything Sam Vaknin says in this is true !!

[@JasonGoldstein78]

youtube H.G. Tudor

[@dande_lion]

The best talk of you I listened to so far. And I really like that you talk so fast. It saves a lot of time. :-)

[@sandramadrigal6320]

@sam I had the exact feeling you described of something being off with my ex about 2 weeks into the relationship. He was indeed robotic and fake. I even gave him the nick name of RJD2 for a bit. I tried to break up with him but he made it seem like this relationship meant the world to him and he seemed devastated so I went with it for a year!. He did seem to love animals though and had gotten 2 cats and he became obsessed and developed a love and attachment to the cats that he would display in front of me as to make me jealous. As he had at that point become unemotional and unaffectionate towards me. This was very bizarre but he used to say "they will never leave me". So the part about the animals would not fit him as he would put those cats before any human being, even before his own family.

[@rcooper8892]

Its called triangulation. He did it on purpose to get a reaction out of you.

[@Lorob854]

Sandra Madrigal wow where his name !! Exact story here

[@Lorob854]

Sandra Madrigal dang I never understood the cats and his infatuation with animals

[@Lorob854]

R Cooper it’s so weird that they seem to need u so much but then they discard u... he was very needy than he triangulated... back and forth

[@rcooper8892]

@@Lorob854 yep. They want you to be jealous and act out for their attention. They get off on ridiculous stuff like that.

[@ScotCampbellwindowpainter]

I thought of myself as some kind of hybrid narcissist, I have had some of the characteristics in the past but I have many of the characteristics of an empathy and enabler. My main narcissistic attribute was my unending need for attention from people and the public. Yet on the other hand I was an enabler and sympathized with people to the degree that I would place everyone's needs and wants above mine. A strange combination of traits.

[@raberta156]

dude its not all black and White, the Internet is full of shit

[@marym897]

Yes

[@amanda4sss]

Borderline Personality Disorder

[@christinehaigh9807]

I found 3 of the men that I was with seemed very unnatural, abusive, lie to your face, misrepresent themselves and make you feel awful about yourself, they also don't look for anything to see if they have anything in common with a potential friend/partner! They want an instant girlfriend right NOW! I've read the books Love Fraud, Counterfeit Hearts as well and I plan to look for other books on these characters.

[@ladylovesherlord]

Parasites

[@cherisecavali4168]

Sam is brilliant, this man sounds uneducated in this topic and it's odd how most men think women are narcissists while there are many but most are men, which explains the state of the world. My mother is a narcissist as is my father an inversed co-dependent. Men never like to take responsibility for the fact that it's their gender that has messed up the planet, that they are still in control and hate women for wanting equal pay except when paying our bills. Hopefully this show host will go a lot deeper into this study than simply using this platform as a discussion to get him attention.

[@kmbmartgirl]

I have had interactions with two narcissists. One was very successful in hacking my computer, waiting 2 months, and then taking money and chatlogs, changing them, etc. I tried to call the police about internet terrorism, but since it didnt involve money, and all of the past behaviour she bragged of, including identity theft, and saying she would destroy my life. Of course no one else saw that face of hers. I seemed to be the crazy one. the result of this was the loss of a bf, leaving the internet, and going to an intensive outpatient program for 2 years. Ironically the sociopath that I met there, would be very charming and inconsistant. but i didnt think about it. He was there for depression. He manipulated situations including getting my roommate out of the house, and taking my 4000 camera. Of course, he was never seen in the program again.

[@debrarock2065]

my life has been affected, because of Your work. All the other KZbin channels have pulled their info, from Your channel.

[@subtlequest]

Thanks for the open honesty Sam.

[@lilyjane1011]

Excellent podcast from beginning to end. Thank you!

[@O12345Dan]

Dr Sam: I am so thankful here, I think I have figured out the term that has been wrong with me for years now "Cognitive Distortion" I need to snap out of this thinking, some how and some way..I have ALWAYS had a low self esteem, my entire life and I end up with someone in a relationship who treats me very badly, and I end up staying for some reason or another (and also maybe some trauma bonding going on there)..... well, I'm tired of this being treated badly and now I just need to work on myself. Now I have somewhere to get started from, it's called "Cognitive Distortion"....wow, thankyou....!!!

[@jessiccabatista6044]

This was THE BEST INFORMATION EVER! Thank you, both.

[@user-np6tf8zx1u]

Amazing interview. Thanks Sam

[@natalielewis871]

Love your honesty Sam

[@user-ys9mn3ll8y]

awesome book: Malignant self love :)Thank you!!

[@josun2222]

It’s like your describing my last relationship experience. Like you knew him personally. Six months of this craziness was all I needed. Very interesting case study though.

[@orionsstar6326]

Wasnt Narcicius someone who loved himself and drowned in a lake, while seeing his reflexion on the water?

[@samvaknin]

Elviro Mori Yes, Narcissus was (in Greek mythology).

[@orionsstar6326]

Sam Vaknin Absolutely, had to go and look it up, out of curiosity. Nemesis noticed this behavior and attracted Narcissus to a pool, where he saw his own reflection in the water and fell in love with it, not realizing it was merely an image. Unable to leave the beauty of his reflection, Narcissus drowned. Narcissus is the origin of the term narcissism, a fixation with oneself.

[@kmbmartgirl]

I know a very very human person who does not display any of these symptoms, but he has been abused by the mental health system for 15 years. I am showing him information in hope he finds that all these labels were thrown at him because he is complicated. He has some of the diagnosis...and one thing that is not seen. He has EXTREME PTSD.

[@cathyann5014]

very good information....thank you

[@ketteh_bandit8537]

Awesome stuff.

[@gothangel68]

Incredible video

[@Feralbam1]

Great talk learned a lot thanks. I hope i can cure myself some with this.

[@julianearing3478]

I think that my fiancee is narcissistic and bipolar because he sound exactly like how you were describing a person who is acts and thinks the only thing is when we first got together we used to make love all the time almost every day and now I'm lucky if we make love once a week but other then that he has all the signs and symptoms I have asked him to get help and one time he said he would and never did now he said he won't he doesn't need help he's fine but he's not he has a bad anger management problem and also is an alcoholic

[@goldangel029]

Wow. You are so right.

[@aishajaha5052]

Can the somatic ever behave this way with women to try to possibly suppress homosexual desires?

[@marym897]

Aisha Jaha Excellent question. I believe so yes. However, I believe his jealousy of the male led him to use sex to overpower a male, humiliate, and take what is his. Then discard. Someone had a shirt. It said $ 20 is $20. It’s whatever he’s hungry for at the time. But not close to home.

[@barbarahuffman3118]

He telling the truth. I was with a narcissistic. He did not want me to have any body in my life. He has a ex - wife and he did not want me to take to her. And he was really controlling. I got out. I am learning a lot of things.

[@christinehaigh9807]

Some can't seem to love in a normal sense!

[@samvaknin]

Narcissists, Love and Healing samvak.tripod.com/faq74.html

[@christinehaigh9807]

Allow me to say that there are many who can't love in the normal sense.

[@christinehaigh9807]

Narcissism...self-esteem and such

[@samvaknin]

Soulution Violent, Vindictive, Sadistic, and Psychopathic Narcissists health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4938

[@SusanAndersonLLC]

I am the daughter of a NPD, ex-wife of a Clinger Psychopath (19 yrs) and Ex-GF of Somatic NPD (3 yrs). What is the demographic of the NPD? Is there a certain culture that is more NPD than others? I am of E. European background (Macedonian/Polish) and notice in my experience certain cultures the unhealthy expression of 'love behavior'. After years of not being able to take the pain any longer, I wondered for some years if I am solidly CoDependent or am I posess NPD within myself. I do not find use in using anyone for success, as Ive always worked hard at my own, however I do believe Ive always wanted 'credit' for my ex's upbringing, if you will. I was addicted to the highs of helping (clinger) and arguing (Somatic NPD)....The dysfunction is all I knew.... what type of therapy is needed to break away from this pathology? I always wanted to play the role of a traditional woman however I also sought men that needed fixing or helping. What is it? NPD? CoD? How is this fixd - CBT? EMD? In the end, the men in my life were sadists, cheaters, conmen, and stalkers. I believe now that I could have been killed many times over. Writing a book seems to be helping me therapeutically, however I still wonder how this ends in order to start over. I do wonder about my traits, and how they comingle with the callousness I was drawn to throught my life, starting with the Father. Thank you for educating me...

[@samvaknin]

Only a qualified mental health diagnostician can determine whether someone suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and this, following lengthy tests and personal interviews. These may be of help - click on the links: vaksam.tripod.com/1.html vaksam.tripod.com/npdglance.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq82.html vaksam.tripod.com/faqpd.html Healing and Curing Narcissism vaksam.tripod.com/faq63.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq77.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq70.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq12.html vaksam.tripod.com/10.html vaksam.tripod.com/case03.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq31.html vaksam.tripod.com/abusefamily8.html vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders37.html vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders45.html Pathological narcissism is a reaction to prolonged abuse and trauma in early childhood or early adolescence. The source of the abuse or trauma is immaterial - the perpetrators could be parents, teachers, other adults, or peers. Pampering, smothering, spoiling, and "engulfing" the child are also forms of abuse - see these: vaksam.tripod.com/narcissismglance.html vaksam.tripod.com/npdglance.html vaksam.tripod.com/journal42.html www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php/type/doc/id/419 Narcissistic and psychopathic parents and their children - click on the links: groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/narcissisticabuse/conversations/messages/4727 The Genetic Underpinnings of Narcissism vaksam.tripod.com/journal43.html Portrait of the Narcissist as a Young Man groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/narcissisticabuse/conversations/messages/5048 Adolescent Narcissist - A Case Study samvak.tripod.com/narcissistadolescent.html More about narcissistic groups, collectives, cultures, and societies - click on these links: vaksam.tripod.com/14.html vaksam.tripod.com/journal87.html vaksam.tripod.com/journal79.html vaksam.tripod.com/lasch.html vaksam.tripod.com/journal62.html vaksam.tripod.com/journal63.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq47.html vaksam.tripod.com/15.html Narcissism and Religion vaksam.tripod.com/journal45.html

[@tennyc]

@28:00 you described gay life perfectly. what is frowned upon by heterosexual culture is actually rewarded and encouraged and seen as "normal masculinity" in gay life.. shocking the amount of narcs in this nation and how its ingrained as "normal" behaviour

[@samvaknin]

gay and transgendered narcissists www.narcissistic-abuse.com/faq18.html

[@tennyc]

Wow thank you so much the narc who destroyed me is a Teacher who has everyone fooled

[@angelagail7620]

Wow. Again. All of that and then some on both of us. I have nothing to say but could say so much.

[@honeybee519]

To add... I just finished reading an excerpt of an article you wrote on Borderline Personality (found within a Yahoo article you linked below). I still require more information.

[@samvaknin]

samvak.tripod.master.com/texis/master/search/?q=borderline

[@honeybee519]

Could you please do a "companion video" to this subject with regard to The Game & this so-called pickup artist movement? (specifically in terms of online dating & social media cyberpaths) You mention the bond between an NDP person & those women who have similar psychological disorders. Please elaborate upon the bond between women with BPD & men who are somatic NPD. If I can untangle that NPD/BPD ball of string I maybe able to have a healthy psycho-free future. Thanks!

[@FreekeeChakra]

Sam, I"m intrigued by the fact that you're a cerebral narcissist and now engaging in what seems to be an altruistic mission to educate. What's motivating you? Do you feel compassion and empathy that drives you to help others? What triggered the self awareness that catalyzed this transformation?

[@samvaknin]

I am not engaging in it "now". I coined the phrase "narcissistic abuse" and started the entire online (anti-)narcissism movement in 1995! I do it for money and fame (narcissistic supply). You can learn more about me and my work here: vaksam.tripod.com/indexqa.html vaksam.tripod.com/mediakit.html vaksam.tripod.com/rebuttal.html vaksam.tripod.com/narcissismphotos.html vaksam.tripod.com/narcissismvideos.html vaksam.tripod.com/cv.html vaksam.tripod.com/archive01.html (scroll down to section titled "Sam Vaknin, NPD") vaksam.tripod.com/journal1.html (my journal) vaksam.tripod.com/sipurim.html (short fiction) vaksam.tripod.com/contents.html (poetry)

[@naturalbornscorpio929]

Jodi Arias? If Travis only knew but even I've learned a few things from this tragedy & I vowed to stay away from psycho women no matter how hard it gets.

[@wsalaam02]

wow this is real sad to say why are people so evil and hurtful

[@adventride]

I met my ex and it was love/lust at first sight. My close friend introduced us. Supposedly he was single and had been divorced for 4 years. Week two of our relationship my intuition told me he was married. My close friends tried to convince me to let that thought go. The friend that introduced us somehow got him to admit he was still married but had not lived at home for 4 years. Needless to say I was not happy, but somehow my ex convinced me he was "available" and he was going to get a divorce, he just didn't have a reason to divorce before he met me...(I fell for it). Then almost two years into the relationship my son got in some trouble and i needed to help him. My ex told me to let my 18 year old son help himself and the day my son went to court my ex (at the time my boyfriend) called me to tell me he was going to F%&$ someone, or everyone if I did not come to see him NOW. This was the first time I knew he had some kind of disorder I just did not know what it was? I took a flight to see him within 3 weeks of this crazy call. I knew something was up. I checked his phone and found out he was seeing someone else. He finally admitted it and then turned cold as ice. He wouldn't even look at me. He was mad because I looked in his phone. Infuriated he was caught. He told me he didn't tell me to save my feelings. I said, how could you have me come here and act like you missed me, loved me....? He had no answer. It has been almost 3 yrs since I left him standing in the middle of his living room, no eye contact, complete disconnect...and have not seen him since. We talked on the phone but I cannot forgive him, nor can I talk to him about anything without yelling at him then months go by and I send him nasty text. Is he a narcissist? Am I? How do move on?

[@cmaze3253]

Have you done a video about how to breakup with a male narcissist?

[@karolinawojtowicz7374]

Sam Vakim is there any test on you’re side or one you can recommend to se if one is narcissist

[@Hrodric]

I was thinking i was Narcisist but i'm not like this... at least not in this degree

[@Cassibales123]

Is having self awareness of something the same as coming to terms with it?

[@samvaknin]

Narcissists and self-awareness www.narcissistic-abuse.com/2.html

[@samvaknin]

outoftouch Fetishism is discussed here: www.narcissistic-abuse.com/pedophilia.html and about serial killers here: www.narcissistic-abuse.com/serialkillers.html

[@jasonmacdonald9678]

@Samvaknin if I demonstrate narcissistic traits would it be better for me to refrain from social interactions i.e. abstain from going to clubs etc.... is there a way to treat this or is the condition a life sentence? perhaps it is better to avoid human interaction if these traits cause hardship to others? I appreciate your insight and cannot begin to show my appreciation for your work, thank you.

[@samvaknin]

+Jason MacDonald Healing and Curing Narcissism vaksam.tripod.com/faq63.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq77.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq70.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq12.html vaksam.tripod.com/10.html vaksam.tripod.com/case03.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq31.html vaksam.tripod.com/abusefamily8.html vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders37.html vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders45.html

[@MrGOTAMA420]

the smarter and more diabolic the N. the longer they can hold it together

[@allhim108]

How does one recover after getting away?

[@maturingempath5071]

See Richard Grannon - Spartan Life Coach

[@rhonddalesley]

Slowly

[@sabrinabowden-hughes1730]

Get a Bible and find a good church only God can bring true healing to your mind body and spirit

[@tintrach]

what is the term when Somatic and Cerebral narcissism are combined in the personality?

[@samvaknin]

All narcissists are BOTh somatic and cerebral, but one aspect is dominant and the other recessive and emerges (is expressed) only during life crises: www.narcissistic-abuse.com/faq29.html and www.narcissistic-abuse.com/journal21.html

[@tintrach]

Ahhhh. That makes perfect sense! Thank you for clarifying.

[@whitepride1004]

A person who is a psychopath is normally a narcissistic person, but that's a side-effect. That's all it is. When you don't feel certain things you get cocky. For instance, I walk into a super market and calmly walk out with two carts full of groceries without blinking an eye. I load them up into the car, wave to whoever is collecting carts, and go home. I have the money to have bought them, but I want that slight thrill of getting away with it. Would I kill someone? No. But I have had the thoughts. I would never do it, but I had a decent set of circumstances growing up,,, eh, for the most part I guess. At home, anyway. Edit: actually, I guess I'd shoot a guy if he was messing with any of my family. Not willy-nilly though.

[@badhans1307]

i am definitly a narcissist

[@Teddietonbear23]

🙀🙀

[@christinehaigh9807]

do they falsely hallucinate?

[@samvaknin]

Pathological Narcissism, Psychosis, and Delusions samvak.tripod.com/journal91.html

[@marym897]

I think they hallucinate and fake it as well.

[@Tarotinzichten]

@@marym897 i believe that my narc faked his psycosis for a part to dominate me more

[@tamicagle1729]

Unfortunately describes my significant other to the T !! He also shows his vulnerable childlike side too me also ! He is very possessive over me , insecure, love bombing , emotionally sensitive, grandiose personality, given to out burst once of anger when under extreme stress ! Of which I told him never again , and hasn't ! Jealousy and controlling individual ! He denies of course, but admits his jealously because of his ethnic background, Hispanic decent ! He regards himself as highly intelligent , handsome , grandiose. Im guilty of teasing him with silly pet names , at that time , early on I had no idea of his mental state ! And he has taken it to the higher level now , that I have to lasso him in off the edge of his joking now , crazy behavior that he loves to do ! But I love him, regardless ! Its hard not to when he loves me so much , he tells me everyday ! Iam have several health problems and told him so , by our second date , but never made a difference to him except he thought it depression , and constantly makes sure that I eat everyday ! Or he gets upset ! Angry he says ! He has broken English and kind of cute! Make no mistake we have argued and I have broken with him at leat 4 times in 3 and half years, but he always comes back , in a day or two. He never wants to leave for good ! I guess Im stuck with him !

[@uyiose6404]

i want one in my life

[@TheHalusis]

we shouldnt label and put people hastly in that box SO quick!! Maybe they require Love in life..are drowning in other sorrows

[@maxineyolanda85]

+Beatrix at The Cchw Club Very True. It is better (healthier) to recognize & AVOID those kind of manipulative, cruel, hateful & hurtful people. Regardless of how much love/patience/understanding/forgiveness they receive they do not change their evil ways. It is abuse. One CANNOT change abuse - one can only TAKE it or LEAVE it. NO CONTACT is the best solution. Amen.

[@TheHalusis]

I said So quick,...In these last days Love shall wax cold. fulfil prophesy

[@ericalagogiannis8331]

Arseoles

[@uyiose6404]

i want a female Narcissist

[@honeybee519]

Could you please do a "companion video" to this subject with regard to The Game & this so-called pickup artist movement? (specifically in terms of online dating & social media cyberpaths) You mention the bond between an NDP person & those women who have similar psychological disorders. Please elaborate upon the bond between women with BPD & men who are somatic NPD. If I can untangle that NPD/BPD ball of string I maybe able to have a healthy psycho-free future. Thanks!

[@samvaknin]

How to Recognize a Narcissist or a Psychopath on Your First Date, Before It is Too Late? health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4976 Narcissists and Personality disordered Mates, Spouses, and Partners health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/5013