Tonkawa Man-Eaters | The TERROR of Living With Cannibals

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EPISODE DESCRIPTION
Few groups in the Americas are discussed more in the context of cannibalism than the Tonkawa Native Americans. Their ritual practice of the act led many other tribes in their region to decide it was time to inflict serious damage on the tribe. In 1862 they were massacred, leaving their number a fraction of what they were prior. But there are serious questions as to whether or not cannibalism is really the reason for the attack. These same tribes tolerated the Tonkawa for hundreds of years prior. In this episode I dive as deeply as I am willing to go into the practice of cannibalism, the prevalence of cannibalism in the Southwest, and the hidden motives behind the attack. All of which is done to ponder the question: What would you do if you lived along side man-eaters?
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Anasazi Ate Their Enemies
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Cannibalism-the Ultimate Taboo-Is Surprisingly Common
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Columbus' Claims of Cannibal Raids May Have Been True After All
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Friends And Allies: The Tonkawa Indians And The Anglo- Americans, 1823-1881 by Thomas W. Dunlay
Great Plains Quarterly, Spring 1981
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Human Cannibalism
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Nine Years among the Indians by Herman Lehman (Book)
Notes on the History and Material Culture of the Tonkawa Indians by William K. Jones
Recollections of Early Texas: The memoir of John Holland Jenkins
The Terrible Truth: The Tonkawa Massacre of 1862 by Joseph Connole
Why Did Cannibals Eat Other People? (Hint: It's Not For the Calories)
time.com/4728703/cannibalism-...

[@datesanddeadguys]

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[@joncooke9515]

The Comanche raided a Tonkawa camp and the Tonkawa fled. The Comanche saw that they had left a Comanche leg roasting on their fire which was to have been dinner. The Comanche, enraged, pursued caught up with and de-limbed the Tonks, throwing their live, limbless bodies into a fire to watch them writhe like worms and hear their skin pop. Read Empire of the Summer Moon.

[@carolynhayward7664]

Good God Have people always been this horrifically cruel? is it learned or just the way we are It just makes me so demoralized that we are "supposedly" the intelligent ones" My vote... give the planet back to the animals and let the earth heal with no humans to wreak havoc on each other, the beasts, and this beautiful planet Why is it we have to destroy everything...ourselves and our kind included 😢 😢

[@pennonN]

@@carolynhayward7664Tbh just matters on how you are as a person and what culture you were in back then.

[@allenvaughan1]

Wow! I am now inspired to study this in deep.

[@Tenskwatawa4U]

"So what would you do if you lived next door to cannibals?" For starters, I wouldn't accept an invitation to come over for dinner...

[@filipekraus2880]

I'm from Brazil and I liked your channel, Brazilian tribes practiced cannibalism as a form of ritual, mainly against enemy captives, as they believed they would consume and acquire the strength, courage and bravery of their enemies, there are famous stories like the end of Don Pedro Sardinha who was the first archbishop of Brazil had this fate after his ship sank, ironically he was dissatisfied with the mistreatment given to the indigenous people by the colonial administration and would complain to the king about it, another case would be that a German named Hans Staden was captured by one of these tribes , he witnessed this practice up close and wrote about it, he survived nine months being forced to fight alongside these Indians, some say that he pretended to be a coward so as not to be eaten but that is rumor, but he finally managed to escape and embark on a french ship

[@JaemanEdwards]

Yes much like the Maori. Cannabilism was largely ceremonial, but in New Zealand with no big game, it was also an acceptable food source in times of need. Only the arms and legs were consumed along with the heart.. And the meat had to be prepared by a certain person.

[@gorilla4lifeperry329]

Amen

[@gatbos]

​@@JaemanEdwardsyummie

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@gatbos Similar to pork by all accounts. I fkn love pork.

[@gatbos]

@@JaemanEdwards e z there munchums

[@speakupriseup4549]

Tonkawa kid "Mom I HATE the Comanche's guts" Tonkawa Mom "ok fine, just eat the leg"

[@martinalarcon3108]

The mother said put some Heinz sauce 57 😮😢

[@Mrbread4579]

Gaw

[@jshaw4757]

😂 good one

[@theflamingone8729]

Part of the cannibal ritual protocol was they would start eating from the feet up. At one ceremony, one cannibal asked the other if he was enjoying the meal, he said he was having a ball, to which the other replied "Slow down, you're eating too fast!"

[@rtopalovich]

I see no humor in any of these comments.

[@johnfyten3392]

The Tonkawa definitely shouldn't have eaten any Comanche. Of all the people to eat

[@datesanddeadguys]

Seems like real risky business. But they found that out at the end.

[@ericwilliams6146]

,.

[@user-km7qu7pn1v]

yup they messed with the wrong ones

[@user-km7qu7pn1v]

bet ya the commanche ate people too though.

[@tommydeadwood]

Depends on their culture. If they believed they would absorb the prowess of their victims, they would definitely want to munch on some Comanche. But I get what you’re saying, Comanche were the last tribe you wanted problems with.

[@fockewulf2352]

the Japanese did this in the Pacific during WWII, many allied prisoners were butchered for sport and food

[@datesanddeadguys]

I haven’t heard stories of cannibalized Americans but I do know it happened in the Philippines and the malnutrition faced by the Japanese was very serious. If you have an article to throw my way I would love to read it.

[@joshuadavids8535]

​@datesanddeadguys look up the story of George Bush senior. He barely avoided being captured by the Japanese that did practice canabalism. They killed and ate several American prisoners. It was kept secret until the early 2000 to keep the families of those killed from finding out the horror of what to thier loved ones. Even Bush didn't know what happened to his fellow pilots until around then.

[@MaggieKeizai]

@@datesanddeadguys When George Bush was a WWII navy pilot, he got shot down at one point and landed in the drink and was rescued. Other guys in his unit weren't so lucky, they were captured and eaten. Look up the Chichijima incident.

[@adameve2647]

​@@datesanddeadguysmy late grandfather was guerilla fighter in Philippines in world war 2 he said the Japanese are brutal they bayonet babies , behead priest but when they are captured they know what's gonna happen to them that's why they prefer banzai charge

[@matthewcharles5867]

​@@datesanddeadguysit also happened on new Guinea and the other island campaigns up around Borneo. Some Australian soldiers were eaten an Indian soldiers were taken alive to these islands and used as food. I had a uncle who lost a man on patrol in this way to the Japanese and later in the campaign helped rescue some of the Indian soldiers. As you can probably imagine very few Japanese prisoners were taken.

[@kenday7942]

This is the third presentation of yours I’ve watched. Not sure I got steered into it but I am finding your presentations to be outstanding. Very well presented with excellent oration.

[@raukawa4732]

My father’s people were eating other humans until the later in the 1800s. They had the last cannibalism feast in NZ when they cooked 200 members of a rival tribe they had conquered. A few generations later and the two tribes intermarried and today I have relatives who belong to both tribes.

[@theflamingone8729]

From a conversation between Governor George Grey and King Pōtatau Te Wherowhero as Te Wherowhero wanted rid of Europeans and their food. Te Wherowhero - We don't need Pakeha or their food, we have (lists native bush foods). Grey - What if I cut down the forest, you will have no food, what then? Te Wherowhero - Then I will eat you.

[@taricklloyd5904]

Wow what a story.... Horrendous & amazing. Crazy to think that they united after that.

[@JamesWilliams-dz5tn]

“Wah-shi-taw” river. I live on the “poor side) of lake Texoma which is fed by the washita river (among many others) you can see the difference in the color of the water from where it flows in with all the silt. The “Ouachita” mountain range (pronounced the same and located on the border of Oklahoma and Arkansas) is just the french spelling of washita, which means good hunting lands. Located on the border of oklahoma and arkansas. The forced relocation of the five “civilized” tribes, known as the “trail of tears” the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Creek, Choctaw and seminole were forced to leave their ancestral homelands with innumerable casualties.

[@maxelldenomie6131]

When i much younger, my mother would tell me things-family stories and tribal history...one of the latter was that in the long ago (before Columbus), far to the West was a large nation of man-eaters. They became so open and bold in their way, they would raid and herd captives back and feast. In disgust, horror and outrage, tribes hundreds of miles around banded, formed a coalition...and at an arranged time, swept down on them and erased them, including their old people and children and babies. Not even their name is anymore. PS-im of the Oklahoma Kiowas, the Maunkee clan.

[@justmakingthistoreply5085]

Maybe that’s what happened to the Anasazi. The Anasazi likely turned into Cannibals when the Aztecs came north and the Anasazi adopted their customs. Historians make this assumption because Anasazi were found to have some of the same body piercings the Aztecs had like drilling holes in their teeth. But no one knows what truly happened to the Anasazi as they just disappeared and there is no written history

[@alexsetterington3142]

That's interesting as it sounds like the story of the love lock cave people

[@tonypage9302]

Not too be that guy, but Herman Lehmann spent nine years amusgst the Indians, mostly with his captures the Apache, and later joined comanche after killing a apache medicine man in self defense & feared retaliation, the title of the book is nine years amongst the Indians & its a great read for anyone interested..

[@datesanddeadguys]

It is a great read. I have far too many careless mistakes. Just misremembered the title and didn’t check my notes when I pulled quotes. I actually made a full length video on his story back in the spring. It’s one of my more popular videos, called Apache Prisoner. His story is awesome and the book is pretty short and easy for anyone who wants to check it out.

[@ION400]

"I'ma go hug my dog" 😆 Thanks for uploading, your narration is well paced and delivered

[@mikefranklin1253]

There were 2 cannibalist tribes in Texas. Actually the Tonkawas fought for Texas settlers often. They just did not share a victory feast.

[@pattipelayo1389]

I'll always remember ( I'm 70 yrs old ) how shocked I was when my hi-school Texas history teacher, for the 1st time telling us about the Karonkawas... cannibals... you'be got to be kidding !!

[@dherman0001]

Dude, only 2? Likely many more.

[@Texasbluestunes]

Yes.. the Karankawa

[@brigandboy1425]

Cannibalism is a practice for a people who cannot and will not make peace with their enemies. It dictates that you will either survive and be stronger than others, or be wiped out eventually by them. The practice is basically the burning of the ships upon landing; it leaves you and your group no choice but to fight and survive, to insulate and conquer, because the stain is so great that as soon as you are deemed weak, the other monsters will wipe you out, because even monsters remember when they have been hurt by you. I imagine that kind of act isn't something a people can forget, even over many generations. So stretch that dynamic across decades or centuries, but never really take away the stigma, and you have the Tonkawa's situation. The Aztec kept it going because no one before the Europeans could wipe them out and stop them. Why stop doing something that no one can stop you from doing when to stop at all would be to show weakness? Especially when showing weakness means you and yours will be devoured instead... Love your videos. They have thusfar been absolutely fascinating.

[@gladegoodrich2297]

While visiting the Mesa Verde cliff dwellings, the guide said, we cant understand why they moved into the cliffs? They lived on the Mesa's for thousands of years. He didn't want to hear the truth, cannibalism. When the drought came and crops failed they started eating each other. Moved into the cliffs for protection from their neighbors.

[@therighttap6873]

I never new such a tribe existed…gives bone tomahawk a whole new look lol.

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

Go look at your local abortion clinics -COMANCHE NATION

[@joshuathomas043]

Wild you bring that up and really that I saw this video recommended in my YT because I JUST watched that movie for the first time late last night. So when I saw this, I HAD to watch.

[@W47689]

​@joshuathomas043 I literally j watched it aswell. It got me wanting to look if anything remotely similar existed

[@leojablonski2309]

Yeah, swallowing that whistle.... .eeeccchhhh

[@MM33633]

Yeah!

[@ignaciosalas8241]

Great video! You should look into the conquistadors and the natives of northern Argentina, the guarani. They were cannibals similar in a way to what you talk about here!

[@datesanddeadguys]

I have a few ideas for South Americans videos featuring conquistadors. Ripping into their accounts is always wild.

[@ignaciosalas8241]

Would love to see one! The Inca vs the guarani was one of the craziest feuds Ide I’ve ever heard of! Their mix of cannibalism and taking women as money has always stuck with me.

[@Andy-im3kj]

Just like the Aztecs, after ritual sacrifices were done, the human meat was used to create what is known now as "Pozole". Instead of human meat now pork meat is used.

[@Mr.Grumbdy]

Excellent video. Very educational. I am from the southwest . I am from Nogales Arizona. It is a place that is rich in native history .

[@RCSVirginia]

In the early morning hours, nothing gets one as energized and eager for a day's raiding on the plains as warm bowls of the Tonkawa delicacies Chili con Comanche and Albóndigas de Apache.

[@nathanielerskine1875]

Yummy.

[@SteveFrench613]

it makes a turd.@@nathanielerskine1875

[@edwardlangdon9256]

Your video’s get better and better. Keep up the excellent work.

[@BongDonky]

Stellar job with information and delivery. Thanks for your efforts. Saluto!

[@larryreese6146]

Texas had more than one tribevof cannibals. The Karankawa were a well known tribe of cannibals along Texas coasts during the 1600s and 1700s and said to have giant stature, well over 6 ft tall. Perhaps the tonkawa had long ago accepted the idea. But the idea of senseless cruelty is by no means only to the Comanche. During the American Revolution American frontiersmen slautered Moravian converts, mainly Delaware women and children, in their church, many begging for their lives. These people had tried to remain neutral during that conflict though pressured and threatened by other tribes to join them in attacking colonial settlers. The Whites then burned their church. There is no such thing as a civilized people when prejudice and opportunity come together against a weaker group, though that group may even be separate and blameless .

[@dariusbaja21]

Yes I finally got notified this time around that u have uploaded. As always amazing video , thank u for making my sad Friday night a little bit better . Have a great weekend

[@datesanddeadguys]

I’m happy to hear this topic made someone’s day “better.”

[@mikef.1000]

Just a small point... you mention infanticide at around 10:40 as a practice most societies grow out of. I wish I could say that about Western society... but increasingly, death is seen as a solution: abortion and euthanasia are on the rise like never before. Maybe this says something about our own regression as a society?

[@zarghamkhan1880]

very knowledge, very poise, good choice of words learning alot of new things from you keep up the good work! God Bless America

[@Deejay4Real]

Really hugging your dog at the end had me crying laughing bro! 😂🤣😂🤣

[@freelivefree7221]

A study of history tends to keep me from having to high opinion of humanity.

[@so-dan-bought-some-land]

Awesome way to start the weekend with a Dates & Dead guys video.

[@datesanddeadguys]

Let’s Go!

[@user-qt4ee4nb1h]

We of the Gulf Creek enjoyed frsh fish, shrimp, and oysters. We also had many vegetables and berries. Because of this diet we were unusually tall and lean. Also a peaceful people who didnt have to worry about food. We avoided the people eaters.

[@dougdillon1271]

Great video! Keep them coming!

[@stevenhall2408]

Very interesting. I am Caddo on my moms side, married an early French soldier/settler in Louisiana. There were some stories of cannibals in South West Louisiana separate from the Caddos further north.

[@soonerfrac4611]

Cannibalism has been an often overlooked and more often rejected as false by many tribal leaders today. It was a major issue that white settlers had when they first arrived and it’s why many tribes that didn’t participate in the practice frequently flocked to them for protection form those who did. Sadly, today we’re given the Disney version of the of history pre & post contact American tribes.

[@oldluke7653]

​@@soonerfrac4611Wytes Bad 🤤

[@justinwynn7946]

There's that face! Good job with the lighting, bud👍 Great video and subject... as always

[@tudyk21]

10:53 Karankawa cannibalism is a long held tale. I think Cabeza de Vaca was aware of it. I've never heard of Lipan Apache cannibalism. I live about 20 miles north of the Lipan Hills in S. Texas.

[@datesanddeadguys]

I debated long about whether or not to include that. I found them mentioned twice in scholarly articles as having cannibal rituals (they are listed in the episode description). But the references lacked details which makes me uncomfortable. But I also did a whole series on the Apache, and read many books, and don’t recall that ever coming up. That said the Lipan had frequent contact with Spanish Missions and the “Have you eaten human flesh?” Question in the catechism came from their experiences. I would have to dig a little deeper to be sure but I am confident in the source work. Thanks for the comment.

[@tudyk21]

@@datesanddeadguys I appreciate your thorough research.

[@williamespinosa9094]

You do great work,sir. It's always a pleasure to watch your channel. Appreciate you, sir 👊 ❤🇺🇸

[@STVODVIL]

Awesome topic and video. I can’t think of a perspective missed when dealing with such a complex topic.

[@datesanddeadguys]

That’s good because it is a tough one to navigate. Thank you.

[@bc2578]

I can. What about the undeniable fact that humans might just be fn delicious? I think the Papua New Guineans call humans "long pig."

[@datesanddeadguys]

@bc2578 It makes me uncomfortable that we might be delicious.

[@STVODVIL]

@@bc2578 I don’t know, I heard clowns taste funny.

[@samthomson3394]

​@@bc2578humans taste like pork because we feed domestic pigs our food scraps so our meat taste very similar.

[@noahrodriguez293]

My tribe and our brother nations, Kickpoos, Shawnees and Delawares, were at Ft. Cobb that night. I believe Connole mentions them in the article. I told my aunts & dad all about it, amd we agreed that our grandparents were much tougher than we are now, and we're glad that we live today, and not back then

[@sababaratashvili8629]

"we agreed that our grandparents were much tougher than we are now" Just the new tech provides us with luxury that makes us softer than people in the past.

[@gatbos]

​@@sababaratashvili8629not to mention ice cream, french fries n hamburgers are easily attainable

[@coldsteelrail1123]

I read a book from Bernal Diaz? First hand account to the Cortez invasion. He was just a common soldier that decided to write a book about his experience... wild stuff

[@davidchosewood647]

I've read a few of the diaries of Spanish conquistadors. They're pretty fascinating. Read one where a guy talks about encounters with cannibal tribes in the American south. Tells about attending one of their ceremonies where they were cooking human organs in a kettle. He said the smell made him and his men throw up. Can't remember what tribe he was talking about or if it still exists. Anyway crazy reading.

[@alanhorvath9642]

I eat cannibals, it's incredible. It brings out the animal in me I eat cannibals.

[@coldsteelrail1123]

@alanhorvath9642 u eat people that eat people?

[@annclayton3420]

Thanks. And thanks for putting your style into your narrative. Well did!

[@mikeable1376]

Thanks again like your work.

[@adamstephenson7518]

Love the video 🤙

[@davidmuir7711]

Olive Oatman and her sister were snatched by Tonkies. They were given mostly raw meat and that is most likely what caused the sister to weaken and die. The girls loathed the Tonk diet although they knew better than to refuse to eat. Hey! You don’t suppose the raw meat they were eating was actually… blargh!

[@My-cat-is-staring-at-you]

They were taken by Yavapais and Olive's sister didn't die until years later, by which time they were with the Mohave.

[@JaemanEdwards]

Raw meat is fine to eat normally.

[@harlanhollywoodcavin1874]

Kiowa- kai•uh•wuh Washita- wash•it•tah Caddo -cad•doh

[@VetroSpecOps]

Aho, Good stuff bro. Could you talk to Pow Wows? I have been to a few im Cali but it's difficult to explain to those who've never attended. I wish to go to another if I could, beautiful gathering and it was impressive. thnx

[@superdrunkdnb]

You deseve way more subscriptions!

[@johnnyscapes6918]

Great historical insight !

[@charlesartificer2158]

Like your videos found them very interesting. Just have one question. Whats up with the flashing I see on some of your videos when your showing the artwork stills?

[@datesanddeadguys]

The intention was to make the film feel more grainy. Maybe the effect doesn’t do what I have intended. Not a fan?

[@charlesartificer2158]

@@datesanddeadguys not really. Im not epileptic but I have noticed that if I watch several videos that have it I get a headache. Thanks for responding and being cool about it. Good manners seem to be hit or miss on KZbin. Earned my subscription.

[@datesanddeadguys]

@charlesartificer2158 I appreciate the feedback. I’m just trying to make good videos. If stuff doesn’t work I want know. Thank you.

[@charlesartificer2158]

@@datesanddeadguys no problem. I am enjoying the history of the old west.

[@masterthedream9580]

Thank you for all you do!

[@chasevideo]

Hey man I've been watching and been subscribed to you since the kidnapped by comanche over a year ago now. I love you're videos and hopefully you continue to make them. Hopefully you can make videos on some other tribes that would be very good. My suggestion is the myaamiaki tribe and ST clairs defeat, it is lesser known and is a very good story.

[@datesanddeadguys]

I just read the Wikipedia page. I can’t believe I have never heard of this one. Especially since I am a bit of a Washington fan boy. It happened during his administration. I would have thought that the over 600 soldiers killed would have been more newsworthy. These armies back then were not that big so this defeat is wild. Worth looking into. Thanks for the tip. And its super cool to hear from people who have watched the channel a while. That Comanche video was my 6th ever. I had under 20 subscribers when it was realeased.

[@brandonlee747]

I love you are videos.

[@chasevideo]

@@datesanddeadguys ofc man it's unknown but is still one of the biggest us army defeats in history.

[@imurgodsgod]

@@datesanddeadguysyou even type like you write scripts lol I can hear you saying it like a video perfectly

[@wallytron101]

Wow!

[@bwalbwal7895]

I love watching your videos! Ben from Australia.

[@sergiorodrigomeyer5005]

Oi amigão sou fã do seu trabalho. Continue assim

[@peternicholson1167]

I'm English but this show was great in the context of learning history

[@vonpilcher3900]

If my Texas history is correct, the Tonkawa were a relatively new tribe at the time, perhaps of dispersed Karwankawa and Coahuiltecan.

[@datesanddeadguys]

Their language is related to the Karwankawa so there is some relation there.

[@marccrener497]

Even the dogs seems terrified after the story xD Great video, it was really a good window to begin ma deep delve in precolumbian history of North America!

[@FuzzyWuzzy75]

Hey, everything tastes better with enough Texas Pete lol.

[@mnbvcxz109ify]

You're good in my history book. Thanks brother

[@Kazen169]

most human quote that i feel in my soul "this was a pretty dark one, I'm going to go hug my dog" *subscribed*

[@brycepardoe658]

Very interesting! I'm Māori. We are a Polynesian people. Among all Polynesians survival cannibalism is acceptable. Specifically among my people Māori war cannibalism was also traditionally practiced. In fact most Māori (myself included) don't see anything wrong with it in its proper context. I never knew about the Tonkawa till now. They are like us! A very interesting tribe.

[@datesanddeadguys]

A ton of the information on see on the topic comes from the pacific. Without being anywhere near an expert it seems like it has been a much more recent practice than the way the west typically feels about it. I have considered doing more research on that region if this video is successful. I would love to know more. Thank you for your comment.

[@brycepardoe658]

@@datesanddeadguys A good observation! I can't speak for other Polynesians but I know that that for my people women & children were banned from participating in it. High ranking men like chiefs also tended to avoid engaging in it. For the most part this was a practice among Tūtané. The warriors that do the actual fighting. I think the proper word for that might be infantrymen I don't know. But it was for the killers. Women & children weren't even allowed to witness it. Chiefs would also go somewhere else when it happened. It was done for two reasons. One was to turn the enemy into shit. The second reason is to become possessed by the spirit guardians of one's tribe. When a warrior does that he opens himself up spiritually to becoming possessed. I'm research on the Tonkawas further. Amazing video.

[@tudyk21]

Among Papua New Guinea people, kuru was common. Due to cannibalism.

[@datesanddeadguys]

This is interesting. It’s almost like a trope in films where a protagonist is conflicted between doing something that is forbidden in order to gain strength. Something that others in his group would never do. Maybe the forbidden thing comes at a great cost. These ceremonies in cannibalism were often not public. Like brash young men coming to age doing something to gain an edge over their enemies who they see as existential threats. I never considered the “turn the enemy into shit” aspect but logically it makes a lot of sense.

[@brycepardoe658]

@@tudyk21 Yes! From eating the brains. Māori only eat the limbs. A tohunga (I guess that would be a priest) of my tribe taught me the process. No hands, feet, or face. It's also a specific guy that prepares and cooks the enemy. Take the meat from the limbs and mince it. Cook that minced meat with vegetables and serve it. According to my tohunga if a warrior sees cooked hands, feet, or a face it will give him nightmares.

[@Music-lx1tf]

News to me. Thank you for the education.

[@Und3rgroundMan]

The Atapaka tribe from Southeastern Texas, what is today Houston, also practiced cannibalism.

[@Jibily1]

Your dog is so cute!

[@datesanddeadguys]

His name is George and he is a very good boy.

[@solyluna1778]

In the Tonga and Solomon islands, it was practiced for sport...

[@datesanddeadguys]

If this video is successful I have thought about exploring the predatory aspect that some groups practiced in that region. I have had a hard time finding research on it but I know there are groups that hunted people by canoes. Raiding like Vikings. Keeping human caches as snakes on the trip. Really crazy stuff.

[@zb7766]

Great video, as usual! The way you tell stories is so engaging! You should look into/make a video about the tribes around the Great Lakes (anishinabe/Ojibwe, haudenosaunee/Iroquois, etc). There is a lot of interesting history/battles that occurred in this area that I think would make great stories. For example, the battle at the west end of the st Mary’s straits in 1660s, the battle of blue mountain in 1696, Pontiacs uprising - rebilion on fort michikimackinac - 1763 (just to name a few).

[@shirleybalinski4535]

I'm with you as I'm a resident of the Upper Lakes. Lots of Native history there. Historians tend to view these Natives in as peaceful, Gardners. Nothing could be further from the truth. All anyone has to do is read. Some of these accounts are truly horrific.

[@marcwhittle9810]

There is also endocannibalism as the only proper funerary practice of disposing with the dead (and loved dogs lest the dead return as spectral zombie like 'por'e') is still in use with the Yanomami of northern Amazon region of Brazil and Venezuela although they find the actual practice of cannibalism abhorrent. While the Gua-Jibo no longer practice cannibalism it was known well into the 20th century and I have discussed this with some elderly Gua-Jibo who remembered the practice and spoke openly about it. For the Gua-Jibo of the Llanos of Colombia and Venezuela it was identical in purpose as for the Tonkawa except the processing of the victim was different and there were some taboos in place that were strictly adhered to.

[@MrWaterlionmonkey]

The liberian civil wars are the most baffling examples of Ritual cannibalism. They occured in the late 90's and early 2000's. Many of the sides would eat their prisoners. This war happened at the hight of Will Smith's popularity.

[@sarahkatepeterson1]

What a handsome dog! Neat video.

[@datesanddeadguys]

Don’t call me a dog.

[@robengl6553]

It was ritualised cannibalism common among Texas tribes.

[@artfantasies]

Hey, your Grandpa had a great motorcycle ... just looked at the 2 cylinder engine, it looks like the one of the new Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor. ... Anyway, keep up the good work!

[@mitchellmcaleer2969]

I'm going to lighten things up a bit with something from The Critical Drinker. Excellent work, love a good story about allegedly noble savages eating folks.

[@santiagosanchez8683]

Speaking of the Aztecs, I remember hearing that allegedly the original recipe for pozole used human flesh instead of pork. Not sure how credible the source was though

[@milieu675]

I've heard they taste the same

[@Jaws_52k]

@@milieu675they do

[@aidencanoe9320]

There is some evidence that Colombus’ claims of seeing Carib people on certain islands farther north in the Caribbean than previously thought. There is no physical evidence of cannibalism though like in the feces of other tribes. Only problem i could find, great video and thank you for the respect.

[@datesanddeadguys]

That’s true. Archeologists discovered their bones as far north as Florida. Doesn’t point to them directly practicing cannibalism in that area but does lend far more credibility to Columbus’ claims. Especially as the previous position was that they were never there at all. Thank you.

[@copperlemon1]

It's interesting that the Tonkawa spoke a completely unique language, which may go along with a distinct culture and religion compared to neighboring tribes, which were generally larger or shared cross-tribal linguistic/cultural ties. If they were particularly unique, that may have aggravated the powder keg situation wrought by forced migration, decades of endemic warfare, and the political circumstances of Texas statehood and the civil war. That said, very similar language and culture shared by the Huron and Iroquois (who are also speculated to have engaged in cannibalism) didn't seem to do much for preventing bloodshed. Same can be said about many of the plains peoples.

[@JaemanEdwards]

I doubt your correct when you say they spoke a completely unique language. In fact I guarantee it.

[@copperlemon1]

@@JaemanEdwards Tonkawa is assessed to be an isolate. Any related languages are either long extinct or otherwise unattested.

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@copperlemon1 Are you saying like the difference between Hawaiian and Maori language for example. Or the difference between Spanish and Portuguese ? Cause I guarantee they were able to converse with other tribes in some linguistic form. The clue is in the name Tonkawa. Cause Sitting Bull's name was Te Tonka ia Tonka. And Kawa sounds suspiciously like Kiowa.

[@copperlemon1]

@@JaemanEdwards More like the difference between Basque and French. "Tonkawa" isn't what they called themselves, it's an exonym like "Comanche" or "German."

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@copperlemon1 What did they call themselves ?

[@RC15O5]

1:57 I too am a descendant of Iron Jacket, Peta Nocona, Cynthia Ann Parker, and Quanah Parker. I am estranged from that side of my family so I presently do not know from which of Quanah's five wives I hail, unfortunately. I need to visit Texas and introduce myself to that side of my family and learn the chronicle before all the older members die. I'll take up the free trial, see if I can try to uncover that piece of history in my blood.

[@thomasoreilly6358]

the movie bone tomahawk springs to mind in regards to this topic,,

[@anasevi9456]

well despite the macabre subject, great informative and well balanced video. Thank you. Most everyone from the Irish to Chinese in the old world were accused or even openly accept their ancestors were cannibals at times, but their seems to be way too much sensitivity towards it in the indigenous american world. As if without such accusations the colonising Europeans would have been any less brutal and shameless. That is a massive massive underestimation of the cynical logic of a conquering people, and nothing new to the region beyond the unified scale.

[@StigEtDump]

I suspect that all living people have an ancestor somewhere, sometime who did this, most likely many ancestors. Many native Americans seem to have been living a Mesolithic/Neolithic life right up to historical times so we shouldn't be surprised that they did some pretty old school stuff.

[@JasonBrinkley-ef4zg]

It truly is the ultimate disrespect considering your enemy is literally turning you into poop

[@JoeSmith-sl9bq]

We’re all turned into poo. Just most of us become maggot poop

[@RomaniaMoto]

Great stories

[@terrybritton1355]

Washita and Washita river are pronounced Wash-it-a. I didn’t recognize what you said but you did get Ft Cobb right.

[@markconlon814]

Your grandfather had good taste in motorcycles, a British Ariel square four, keep these great videos coming!

[@cyraven2834]

I grew up a quarter mile from the washita river. It is pronounced wah-sha-tah

[@bradketsdever1138]

Could you investigate the story of plenty coup? The last crow chief thanks in advance.

[@chasevideo]

I encourage u too do ur own investigation, go to the library or even search online about books mentioning plenty coup

[@davidchosewood647]

Tuned in to watch an educational video and got a commercial.

[@jasonkirkk]

Cover the Karankawa

[@dmeinhertzhagen8764]

The French Jesuit relations books relate several different instances of ritual cannibalism amongst different tribes way back in the 1600’s. Hurons, Petun, Iroquois, Ottawa, etc The first white man to set foot in Ontario (Étienne Brûlé) was eaten by Mohawks if I remember correctly.

[@chrisrus1965]

Just because you can nibble doesn't mean you should.

[@datesanddeadguys]

Good advice.

[@andyk55]

Thanks!

[@user-km7qu7pn1v]

great videos btw - love the channel lol

[@mitchelldison9164]

Happy thanksgiving

[@Salmon_Rush_Die]

I heard somewhere somebody said the Tonkawa were a carribean people - not originally from the mainland. Any truth to this? Would make sense, perhaps.

[@kenneth9874]

The carib were reputed to be cannibalistic as well

[@WFshorts]

Cruel times to have lived in. This one was dark for sure.

[@chrtra392]

Interesting. I grew up in that area and I always heard Kiowa pronounced KAI-O-wa, Caddo pronounced KAHD-do, and Wahsita - WASH-eh-ta.

[@johnhanover2229]

Yet, we can’t call them savages. I have a famous cannibal buried not too far from my home in Alferd Packer.

[@JaemanEdwards]

As a Maori I accept and like the term savage. It actually means kickass now. But I accept the old meaning too. And we were cannibals too so no arguing there either.

[@jnightmare0]

people gotta eat

[@johnhanover2229]

@@jnightmare0 Easter Island they had missing loved ones, rival tribes were asked to smile to see if they ate them.

[@ACR-iu4sk]

Hi, love the show(s) but I have always heard the word 'Kiowa' pronounced with a long I. You say Kee-o-wa. I couldn't find it pronounced Keeowa anywhere. Where do you get that pronunciation? Thanks and please keep up the good work. Very interesting stories. If you're ever looking for material, I suggest you read the five-book series "The Winning of America." An excellent documented history of America and a great read. The first book in the series is titled, The Frontiersmen. If you love Indian and Settler history, you'll love these books. True, as well.

[@paradoxstudios6639]

I encountered members of the Tonkatoy tribe while walking through Oklahoma, they yelled insults at me and threw large metal toys my way, they accused me of being a paleface.

[@justbe1451]

Taking a life seemed to have more meaning back then, it is so different today.

[@chasevideo]

gang violence has alot of meaning, more than you think.

[@Zorro_c.s.]

10:05 Errro ! This was debunk many years ago and some historians still debate this. There was no evidence of Mexica / Aztec were cannibals, conquistadors often over exaggerate to make indigenous people look bad. For example, they saw a “pyramids made out of skulls”. It was really a stone pyramid with carvings of skull’s. It is true there were Indigenous nations that did in parts of the continent. Great video though !

[@eramossomosyseremosespana9899]

jajjajajajja. Y te lo creerás. Los Aztecas no mataban 2 o 3 guerreros, masacraban a poblaciones enteras y después se los comían.

[@thegolfcartshop]

suuuure wokey 😂

[@charlesbullghost5491]

On northern great plains at that same time period. The western Lakota sioux indian warrior people. Well during there encampment in the Kansas and Nebraska region. Many of their warriors had to keep a close eye out for unexpected sudden Pawnee Indian attacks! Who wanted to steal the young Lakota sioux indian girls away! The would do the same kind of very terrible acts of human hunger, cannibalism on poor innocent victims! The very true oral stories of the seven council fires of the once powerful Great sioux Indian nation. My great inspiring for today. Have a great fabulous wonderful day.😀

[@GS-xt8fu]

Yes. Suggestion. Comanche…….not the best tribe to have a problem with.

[@user-nc5gr8qu1i]

Tis is not so surprising. Amongst the tribes in the area before they had horses they had to leg it everywhere and protein was protein. In the groups to the south and in areas where things got really rough humans cannibalized their own tribe members. That changed with mobility of course so now it was taboo. The Pueblos., Mayans, Aztec, all practised cannibalism in a religious sense and not as a survival situation as some of this is.