The Comanche and Mongols | How Horse Archers TERRORIZED the World

[@datesanddeadguys]

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[@ahappypikachu9753]

Fascinating Video as always! Do you think you could do one on Dr. Joseph Medicine Crow; the last Crow-nation war chief, who brought his people’s way of war with him to the Western front of World War Two?

[@datesanddeadguys]

@ahappypikachu9753 he is on my list of folks I would like to do something with. In the meantime, if you are looking for something on him, check out episode 94 of History on Fire. It’s a podcast. Danelli Bolelli did a awesome job. He gives the history of the crow then tells the story of JMC

[@grizwoldphantasia5005]

There's a book, Comanche Empire, by a Finnish professor. One of the side effects of nomadic culture is that if you kill a buffalo, deer, bear, or other large animal and don't share it, you are throwing it away, so it is not only moral to steal that excess before it goes bad, it is immoral to not steal it. Hoarding was the cardinal sin. Europeans had factories, mines, workshops, and the workers to run them and savings to build them, and stores and warehouses to distribute them. We are all familiar with this. When these two cultures met, they were utterly foreign to each other. The Comanches saw farms and ranches and stores as hoarding, and it was immoral to not steal what they needed. Then they'd come back the next day to trade the same stolen goods for horses or textiles or metal tools, and the Europeans could not understand this brazen attitude. I'm sure I've paraphrased this much too simply. It's a fantastic book.

[@Armchair.extraordinaire-bo5mv]

I know I stole from you yesterday, but that was yesterday. But Today I got stuff to sell, what's the problem lol

[@jameshill8493]

@@Armchair.extraordinaire-bo5mvI mean it didn’t look like you guys were using it

[@steakeater4557]

@@Armchair.extraordinaire-bo5mvselling? It’s just sitting there.

[@frenchroast1355]

Love the idea of making a Comanche bow video. Heck yeah. That way I can get jonesed about yet another project to add to my already ridiculously large list. LOL. Yes please.

[@datesanddeadguys]

I know the feeling. I have to get on it. I have a pipe dream of taking it out for deer season.

[@mfischer2948]

Your Grandfather made some stick bows. He also hunted deer with a longbow.

[@JaMeshuggah]

I too wish to see the bow video.

[@jonahhex8178]

​@@datesanddeadguysyep. Definitely get on it. I've been planning on a winter bow project for ten years now and it ain't happened yet. Maybe you can inspire me to get off my tail and do it this year.

[@eugeneariz4395]

One thing the Mongols excelled in is the resupply issue. The had plans in place where they could move a desired distance, often up to 100 miles and have an advance group already set the camp up with food and sanitary issues taken are of. They also drove their domestic animals on campaigns so their food issues weren't a disadvantage to a mobile force

[@datesanddeadguys]

Absolutely. When you get your supplies on the go there is no need for supply lines. It creates a logistical advantage other civilizations had to deal with.

[@googane7755]

​@@datesanddeadguysRight no other settled society had this advantage and this meant that the mongols could conduct campaigns thousands of kilometers away for years on end. Where they went made no difference as the saddle was their home.

[@Happyfsscist33]

The Mongolian empire was no joke.

[@datesanddeadguys]

It is just unreal how powerful they seemed to be. Although, when they left the steppe, a lot of that seemed to fade. When Kublai Khan started South and they found some trouble, especially in jungles. Go figure.

[@jondohnson5538]

I can shoot an arrow through a fleas arse @100 meters on the run… that’s a fact.

[@herbthompson8937]

​@@datesanddeadguysthe jungle is a major problem for ANYONE not from there. Look at Alexander when he got to inner India, sure he won the battles, but his troops started getting terrified of what they were walking into. Is the middle east part of the steppe??? No, and they crushed them with ease whenever they had a royal family general. Mamluks just got lucky Mongke didn't die 6 months later or Hulagu would have crushed them as well.

[@kday6340]

@herbthompson8937 it's always surprising to me that India has won any military action. Over a hundred years of competing in the Olympics, and they've only won 10 gold medals with two of those in individual sport. They have such a large population that purely by chance they should have won more, but they haven't. Are they statistically the weakest humans on the planet?

[@herbthompson8937]

@@kday6340 the way they treat women in that sh!thole country, they might be the weakest men on the planet. As far as winning battles, I would say terrain, elephants and outnumbering by alot their opponents would be why they won some battles. Up until the Timurids, no one really was able to get to the interior of India. Imagine seeing a King Cobra or Tiger for the first time, hahahaha I'd be running in the opposite direction as well

[@davidmuir7711]

I’ve often pondered this question. In my estimation I see the Mongols as a corporation. Organized to the nth degree, with leadership at every level trained to serve the corporation. Once assigned to a unit the leader and his men were going to see it through. The Comanche were not so structured, young warriors could opt out if they wanted and run their own operations, so unified cohesiveness was not their metier’. I believe Khan and his Mongols would have prevailed.

[@herbthompson8937]

It's not even a question

[@googane7755]

Mongol tribes were actually just as unorganised before Genghis Khan came along. He had to make tons of reforms to make them the absolute war machine we know today. He even had to decree that no looting was to take place before the enemy was defeated which shows just how highly organised the mongols became by the end of his life.

[@alienlife7754]

Oh without a doubt. The Mongols did not use stone age weapons like the Comanche and pretty much all native American tribes did. Now if the Comanche were given guns it would equal out more, but the Mongols would still win. Almost guaranteed.

[@timexyemerald6290]

​@@alienlife7754 their weapons where already tested by old world

[@wellersonoliveira5334]

I been called indian my childhood/teen years,( even today) but now I take as a compliment. Proud of my roots and love your videos my man ❤💪

[@Endwankery]

What tribe are you descended from?

[@datesanddeadguys]

Thanks for watching. You have a fascinating history.

[@deepindersingh8781]

Bro wtf are you talking about? you’re not an Indian you’re an American. if you’re an Indian and who the fruck am I. Learn some friggin geography you friggin dumb wits and stop confusing everyone

[@wellersonoliveira5334]

​@@Endwankery I am from Brazil, my aunt was indigenous. But the thing is, I never got to even know her. The sad thing about our history here is, Its destroyed to a level, most people don't even know they are very close related to "indians". In some ways, Its was worse than the US 💔

[@randysanchez931]

I’m glad I have Jicarilla Apache, I love these types of videos where scenarios are made possible with great knowledge. One thing I do know is Apache tried not to travel at night and Comanche used it to their advantage. I think it would be fitting for the Sioux vs Mongols. Sioux had impressionable numbers like the Comanche, and were just as unified if not more so. The Sioux as children bred for battle, and played a game they basically named War where they would reenact and often get injured, and these were children counting coup for fun, wanting to get to the battlefield as soon as they could. Don’t get it twisted - Comanche had built a complex and vast network of manpower, trade, and communicable resource that was centrally controlled as well. The Comanche came down from Northern regions to follow the Buffalo. Coincidentally the newly eastern Sioux tribes moved out west towards the Black Hills and upper plains just a little before the Comanche exodus. Sioux and especially Lakota and Minneconjou warriors often were large and imposing figures, Chief Touch the Clouds was somewhere in the 6”5’ range and Lakota had average height of 6 feet or more. Contrasting as to where accounts of SW give Comanche stature of a short (termed possibly the shortest of known tribes) and often plush or chubby figure, less ideal of a foot soldier, and unlike Apache descriptions of SW accounts. In Sioux accounts they often name a worn down and skid-dish tribe I’m not familiar with, I’ve often wondered if it was Nūmūnūū. There’s a reason Comanche refer to the Sioux as cut throats.

[@travispetersen3042]

Did the Lakota and the Comanche ever meet in battle?? It would be interesting to know the outcome and research it!

[@mannydiaz5941]

The bow would be so cool looking forward to that video

[@thegreatermysteries4134]

Great episode. More like this, please. Also, would love to see the bow-making episode/series.

[@doop6769]

The Mongols would have destroyed them. They had superior military tactics. The Comanche were mostly raiders and lacked the organization and structure to wage war. If the Comanche had the bow of the Mongols, that might have balanced out the armor the mongols wore. So the Mongols could outshoot them being able to take more hits with an arrow. I'd also add in the quality of who they conquered. The Mongols won against organized militaries and defeated many nations and types of armies, so they needed to adjust tactics to their enemy. The Comanche basically used their horse skills because they were the only ones who possessed them. The Mongols could match that taking their biggest advantage away. And if the Mongols took out their war leader, the rest would run off. The Mongols had a rank structure to assume command if one went down.

[@hiimryan2388]

THIS

[@georgeford6439]

Comanche were picked on by other tribes supposedly. The description here would also tie in that they were of smaller stature, hence their prowess on horseback, and fighting atop their mount. After gaining horses from the Spanish, whether directly or indirectly, they were feared by even the Apache. The Comanche along with German immigrants in the Texas Hill Country, honored a treaty between both parties 17:58 duringlatter part of 19th century. The Easter Fires in Fredericksburg, TX. Still honor this tradition. Also check out the Pacific War Muesem, interesting history of Admiral Nimitz and Japan at the end of WW2 and a tradition that is still honored by the Japanese to this day.

[@schneejacques3502]

I think a better comparison would be Comanche vs cossack since they were in simlar time period and cossack were supposedly good cavalry

[@G0rdy92]

Cossacks would clear right? They were a blend of “Western” style combat and nomad. I mean Russia used them to beat and subjugate nomad factions like Mongols, Tartars, Turks and others that had millenniums of nomad warfare experience/ took and subjugated empires themselves. Comanches were relatively new to the nomad lifestyle with much less experience than the Steppe Tribes Cossacks beat

[@EchoVortex713]

@@G0rdy92Cossacks only advantage against nomads were their firearm .

[@melissapinol7279]

​@@G0rdy92And when the Cossacks had dealt with the nomads, they became violent in their own country. My own great grandmother was a Russian Jew, and she told my dad how the Cossacks would ride through Jewish villages and horsewhip the men, violate the women, and burn down houses! Just For Fun. Because of this barbarous behavior, when I took my DNA test I found out I was part Russian. Hmmm. But Jews are Matrilineal, if the mother is Jewish , so is the child. In the end, the family slipped over the border into Poland and immigrated to America. Because they didn't want to suffer another Pogram. I guess highly trained cavalry needs something challenging to do or they go nuts.

[@lettuceman9439]

@EchoVortex713 Not really, Cossacks themselves were not a binary of western + nomadic style cavalry but also know for frontier defense, Russian warfare in Siberia is characterized with the establishment of mobile blockhouse, They unlike the Nomad fought mostly defensively against other nomads and committed raids while also being support with a forward Outpost of fortified wooden fortress which can be disassembled and reassembled in a matter of a day. Cossacks are also pirates, Mainly piracy within the rivers of Central and Eastern Europe, They also have experience fighting more professional European armies and Cavalry, Not as good as the French,Polish and Hungarian Cavalry but good enough.

[@chrishappysofar2090]

Interesting comparison, well worthy of a discussion. Thank you for the video

[@J-S-VAL]

bow video would be awesome!

[@datesanddeadguys]

I am excited about that one. Could for sure be a disaster but that just means a second try.

[@Tonhaoreal]

I haven't even watched it yet, but dude... The Mongol Horde was the most destructive force, ever. As terrifying as the Comanches could have been... yeah. I'm not criticising, super hyped to watch the video, keep it up!!

[@Tonhaoreal]

So I would say the Comanches were nimbler on horseback, just on the fact that they wore less armor, had more manoeuvers and were so confident to boast their prowess in the face of battle. Still, Mongols were far superior in tactics, range, armor. Sounds like the Comanche would fall so easily for the Mongol bait in a pitch, like, in warfare they were no where near each other.

[@Tonhaoreal]

Now, I think the romans could be the ones to actually beat them, in the steppe. You would need resourses to tear up their plains and make trenches, ditches, pits, an army of balistas to give you cover and as many fortifications as you can get. The most resourceful army ever is the best pick for this.

[@hiimryan2388]

@@Tonhaorealto say that the Comanche were more nimble on horseback just doesn’t really make much sense due to the fact that the nomadic tribes in the steppe in general just worse plain clothing and no armor

[@hiimryan2388]

@@Tonhaorealhonestly the Roman’s really wouldn’t have because that just won’t make much sense. The Han Chinese were able to beat back the nomads by employing the same techniques of horseback archery but armored and armed to the teeth

[@lettuceman9439]

@hiimryan2388 The Qing were Nomadic Horse Archers though, China never really secured it's Northern and Western territories only when the Qing took the mandate of heaven did they gradually secured said borders. Mongol Cavalry was still around btw during the opium Wars, It was the mongol Cavalry and only them that terrified the invading french and English even at odds with the Cavalry of the French which at the time dominated Europe and most of Asia and Africa

[@galenbjorn443]

Love these kinds of videos, do more!

[@WildBill-kf2pc]

Hope to see you very soon. Well done as always.

[@Jibily1]

Can't wait for your channel to take off. You do great work, dude. Keep up the awesome videos!

[@kyleward88]

Osage self bows are a blast to build a shoot. Good luck! Thank you for these awesome stories

[@atomizedart411]

yes to the bow video. would like to hear your researched technic.

[@datesanddeadguys]

The Comanche have a super unique shooting style. Lars Anderson has made some videos on it. They shoot with the arrows on the opposite side of the bow that you would expect. They kept a clump of arrows in their bow hand and would reload over the string in on motion for rapid fire. They also didn’t draw as much as the plucked the string. I am going to look like a goof but I am excited about it.

[@AlecBoyer-f6u]

Please build and shoot the Comanche bow!

[@darinbianco3827]

Voting "Yes" on the Osage longbow.

[@cryptomnesiac]

Great content as always dude. I wish times were easier and I could contribute more, but I make sure to share your vids with friends n family in the meantime.

[@jeffalbillar7625]

Yes to the Comanche Bow and to more videos like this. I greatly appreciate what you do, Brother.

[@rossburney8713]

New upload? My Saturday just got way better!

[@datesanddeadguys]

I love hearing that people look forward to these.

[@Happyfsscist33]

I want to build some bows, about to get started myself.

[@tracyjames2046]

In many accounts the Comanche were said to be the finest and most deadly light Calvary on earth. Superb horsemen who were acclimated to horseback life, put in the saddle at 4 years old, more at home on a horse than their own feet. I admire few as much.

[@lettuceman9439]

Ngl, That's kinda sensational and a bit of pop history, Central Asian and European Cavalry has more renown and effectiveness than the commache have in their entire existence. French Cuirassiers? Magyar Hussars? Qing Mongol Cavalry ? Polish Uhlans? Ottoman and Persian Sipahis? Russian Cossacks and Dragoons?

[@AlonaPalmer-k6t]

Very informative video. Thank you for sharing it with us! 🙌

[@kazzak873]

awesome video as always brother 👍

[@datesanddeadguys]

Thanks for watching.

[@AlexHellene]

Really being enjoying your videos mate. Keep them up

[@randysanchez931]

Comanche had power in numbers - trust me unlike the guerrilla Apache, there was no issue “locating” a Comanche number on the war path campaign or a large and intimidating camp. It was their haughty nature and aggression that made them marvelous. Spanish Governor of New Spain was so enamored by the Chief Querna Verde he immediately offered his support rather than try to subdue. It was like he became ingratiated by servitude to the Comanche, and this was a only a fractional portion of the western Comanche bands.

[@danielcombs3048]

Another fantastic and interesting perspective between the two waring factions. I agree that the mongols had an advantage. Because of the sheer numbers, weapons and armor. But also there pure determination. Didn't they march Themselves and elephant's 🐘 over the Alps too fight? PS yes I would like to watch the production of your long bow 🏹. Thanks for all your insightful knowledge 🐎🏜️

[@datesanddeadguys]

The catheginians marched the elephants over the alps. It was an expedition led by Hannibal in the Punic wars. The mongols did fight war elephants though in India. They did not like it. They scared their horses

[@mr2981]

Horses didn't come to America until the Europeans, so the Comanche certainly didn't have anywhere near the time with horses that the Mongols did.

[@danielcombs3048]

@@datesanddeadguys ok thanks, I stand corrected. I will have to do a better job at learning history. And that is why I watch your blog. Appreciate it. Thanks you very. much.

[@Happyfsscist33]

Never forget the Gurkha's .😱 Gurkha's vs Apache

[@hiimryan2388]

Gurkhas were good infantry but I’m not sure if they would do well against ranged

[@jameskirkpatrick5569]

I recently found your videos and have been bingeing them and fell asleep to your multi choater video on the apache. Would love to see a video on your comanche bow making it and shoot8ng it eventually

[@mfischer2948]

Very enjoyable, a what if video. As far as Roman Legions vs horse archers read about Crassus vs the Parthians.

[@datesanddeadguys]

He was a rich guy. I am sure they just thought he would love the taste of gold.

[@mfischer2948]

Ouch...that's hard to swallow!

[@herbthompson8937]

They got lucky Caesar was murdered. Caesar would have gotten the revenge he wanted so bad.

[@stephenkenney8290]

​@@mfischer2948Oof!

[@stephenkenney8290]

In all seriousness though, even the fractious Roman civilization of the first century BCE would be the best choice to fight nomadic armies. Their mastery of logistics, adaptability, a massive pool of manpower, and an utterly insane drive to achieve victory would make them the best choice.

[@DavidAguilar-wo6ho]

Great video! Interesting topic, would be cool to see a vid of you trying horse archery!! Also the Mamluk Turks were great at halting the expansion of the Mongols into the rest of the Middle East and Egypt, mostly because they too were horseman and had a large trained cavalry

[@herbthompson8937]

The Mamluks got lucky, that's all. Their horse archers were a watered down version. Mongke died which forced Hulagu to return back to Mongolia with 80% of his army, leaving a bum general, Kitbuqa, behind. And once Hulagu came back to finish the job, Berke started the process of the Mongol Empire starting to splinter by allying with the Mamluks against Hulagu because he was butthurt Hulagu destroyed Baghdad. If Mongke died just 6 months later, the Mamluks would have been easily run over.

[@DavidAguilar-wo6ho]

@@herbthompson8937 I see the internal politics of the Mongol royal family influenced the outcome of that conflict, thanks for sharing

[@herbthompson8937]

@@DavidAguilar-wo6ho I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not

[@DavidAguilar-wo6ho]

@@herbthompson8937 I’m being grateful that you shared your knowledge on the subject, that’s all

[@herbthompson8937]

@@DavidAguilar-wo6ho sounds good! I'm a huge fan of most of the steppe armies. The Mongols really were so close to conquering from Pacific to Atlantic. A couple untimely deaths screwed them. But in the end, I blame 2 men, Berke and Kublai for the downfall of their empire. Berke allied with outsiders, the Mamluks to fight against Hulagu. Kublai became the Great Khan and just decided to allow everyone be semi independent instead of forcing his power on everyone.

[@Rufusthered186]

Looking forward to you making the bow. Great channel btw

[@carleto9597]

Very interesting comparison and good video. Ya, You can make the Bow video, and follow through later on of making of the arrows on the plains. Thanks for the video.

[@yakamen]

What sort of mad genius decided this was worthy of scholarship??? YOU SIR. YOU ARE A BRO. Thank you for convincing me I needed this in my life.

[@channelbelongtous]

Funny you mentioned the deadliest warrior show. It was dumb, so is this contest of 'who is stronger, X or Y'. Your regular content is so much better

[@wyrickb]

Would love to see a video on your osage bow! Ive always been fascinated with Native American culture, thanks for these awesome videos!

[@raycouch6953]

I enjoy the way you tell stories the very interesting and fascinating at the same time you keep the curiosity up keep up the great work you make a great storyteller

[@georgerivera6970]

Really cool subject matter! Great video

[@futurescalling]

Seriously, I love this channel ... Viva Dates and Dead Guys!

[@monique8433]

❤ love your stories

[@datesanddeadguys]

Love your comments. Thanks for watching.

[@evan7743]

“Geography shape cultures.” Indeed.

[@Thecathunter]

Very good video. I would like to see how your bow turns out.

[@oldfart5063]

100 vs 100 would have been interesting . the gorilla tactics of the comanche would have negated some of the superior armor and bows of the mongols . fighting at night would also work to the comanches favor . they could have stolen horses cut off supply lines and made night raids . if they faced each other in daylight and lined up like the french and the british the mongols have the advantage because of the bows . but if they're mounted on the same horse the comanche are more mobile and faster . its a very interesting comparison .

[@coldenhershey857]

The idea of Roman legionnaires squaring off against Comanche horse 🐎 archers is intriguing. The Roman Gov/General Arrian wrote a tactical manual for fighting horse archers called the Allani, also keeping in mind that the Roman soldier was better equipped and trained than his US counterpart of the 1800’s where conscripts were known to desert their post. Romans were keen to take care of there own!

[@edwardkuenzi5751]

A hundred legionaries would be slaughtered on the great plains, but I don't think any mounted archers could conquer the Roman Empire in its prime. The environment is everything. The strength of Rome is the ability to put enormous numbers of fairly well trained people in the field and replace losses. Logistics wouldn't allow such a large army of infantry to operate on open grassland and a sedentary society doesn't have enough people with the requisite skills to fight effectively while mounted. That's why the Spencer Carbine was such a game changer.

[@baiyuantongbei]

This was a great presentation. Thank you. Others are not so good. I was checking to see if my own hypothesis, that the Mongols would have outnumbered (as well as out organized) the Comanche. It seems that history provides many examples of how certain civilizations would have fared against the Mongols. The Polish had advanced armor by comparison, but lost due to their lack of flexibility and speed. Interesting comparisons arise, with "speed and agility" being the key in each case. The German victory in the Teutoburg Forest is one, where a far better force with advanced capabilities was annihilated by tactics and lighter weight battle strategy.

[@JM-nm3bg]

The Cumanji (Cumans) got their butts kicked bad by the Mongols. Most were then drafted into the Mongol horde but many took refuge in Bulgaria, the Byzantine Empire and Hungary.

[@Ulysses3113]

Very interested in seeing your bow etc.. 👍🏻😎👍🏻

[@travispetersen3042]

I would love to see a video on the making of an Osage bow.

[@justinwynn7946]

Love the info. But you gotta do something about that lighting, my man

[@darin7369]

I've made two sinew backed osage bows and they shoot every bit as good as my fiberglass recurve of the same draw weight.

[@anotheryoutubechannel4809]

ok so i just happen to think of this com nation and dayyyyum, you got a video about it! Thank you!

[@outtherefaraway]

Phenomenal video! Thank you!

[@allshewrote928]

Well done, sir.

[@BrionK]

Do the bow! Would love to see the build and use details. Love these match up, compare contrast videos. Would like to see leadership and elite/special team comparisons like the kesikten & yassa emissaries vs. the lobos & big horses.

[@Music-lx1tf]

Great show, I liked it. The idea of mounted horse archers goes way back. The Assyrians back to around 2200 BC. Yes they had their ups and downs like a third world stock market. And at their peak they had 3-4 armies with up to 250,000 men each.

[@kayp89]

13:10 "What is best in life conan? Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women."

[@jamaalg9906]

I love the Mongolians but i think the show was more about a 1v1 as far as i know. I agree that if the two armies were to clash the mongols would win. But a 1v1 would be very interesting! You should delve into this more!

[@travispetersen3042]

Would you consider doing a piece on what might have happened if the Comanche and the Lakota Sioux had met on the battlefield? I have often wondered who might have come out on top in a fight between these two great tribes of horsemen.

[@a2backfire143]

Seeing the bow finished would be sick

[@dougearnest7590]

I'm shocked -- SHOCKED - at the thought of the History Channel getting something wrong! Please tell me this video was supposed to have been posted on April 1st. Otherwise, a great episode, as I'm sure you already knew.

[@Nogi520]

Great content

[@Sean-fb7cy]

The bow video would be interesting

[@lmccampbell]

push forward regardless the satisfaction of crafting your own bow is worth more.

[@Hellbillyhok]

Great video

[@JoeFabeets]

If you made a video about the bow and the making of the bow I would watch it

[@10laws2liveby]

I agree with you that the Mongols would have taken the Comanches's, but Aleksander is in a hole different league.

[@GarySiegel-m1f]

Greatest episode ever🎉 0:01

[@jhines93]

Great video, glad i found your channel. Your take on the Comanche vs Mongol is interesting. Usually i would concur that armor changes the narrative in war. Armor is great against slashing weapons and hand to hand combat. So the numbers of Mongols if you take the Comanche off horseback I would give the victory to the Mongol. But piercing weapons vs armor not that advantageous. The Comanche are faster on horseback and more agile and even acrobatic on their horse fighting with less weight without the armor. The Mongol could shoot farther with accuracy and on horseback but still not as fast. I believe it was the Comanche warriors ability to speed shoot arrows that inspired the revolver to be created to win the "west". So shooting speed should be a consideration in your comparison. Ultimately with numbers and a close enough skilled mounted military the Mongols would win but not easily. I say the Comanche were more skilled on horseback and with a bow and arrow. And the reason why the Deadliest Warrior didn't factor in armor is because against the bow and arrow its pointless.

[@WildLastFrontier]

Please do a video on making your bow! Living history is the best.

[@charlesbullghost5491]

You talking about very deadly poison effects on the bow and arrows! The Lakota sioux indian warriors actually put human shit at the end of the tips of the sharp patt of the arrow head. So it can very immediately throughout the blood stream faster of a painful death sentence of a poor unlucky human being. During the old west the fighting indian wars time period. My great inspiring wisdom for today. Have a great fabulous wonderful day.😀

[@HLStrickland]

At @9:36 - I was just getting ready to say - farming. That would make them stay in ONE SPOT. "All who wonder are not lost" - they just hate farming.

[@trisgilmour]

Please make the bow video

[@henry-thepizzaeater-morgan704]

Doityourself Comanche bow tutorial? By All means Go all ahead ! 🤩

[@mer171]

Additionally the armor waste horse down making it slower than what the Comanches would be dealing with making their flight faster than the Mongols could pursue

[@guntertorfs6486]

Ahaa , the promised video !!

[@petelcek]

When "The deadliest warrior" episodes were released, I watched Comanche vs Mongol and I type: "No go."... The same conclusion. The Comanches oocupied more or less empty area, where most 19th century Europeans could not live easily, so they did not establish large settlements and so providing supplies for larger armies was a big deal at that time. Mongols on the other hand conquered the civilizations that were the biggest and most advanced at their times, like Chinese and Persians. And there are some major differences about lifestyle of Eurasian steppe nomads and Prairie Indians. They are often describe as "nomads", but they are very different kind of nomads. The Eurasians cultures are pastoralists with domestic lifestock and the Native Americans are hunters of buffalo. A major differences of that kind of "nomads".

[@LannyRoe]

If you have a child like fascination with dinosaurs you should look into the bone wars of the 1870s. Very interesting look at early paleontology

[@LXEagle]

Cool video! But did no one attempt to develop armor as the mongols in the west before the rangers had colt revolvers? Cataphract or knightly armor would probably slow them down too much but how about some leather armor. I think that is the reason why mongols had such a powerful bow. On the other hand, maybe a fastmoving unarmoured Comanche trained from childhood to shoot insects would ride up close and aim for the gaps in such armor.

[@ramonbenitez1323]

The fight would be a bit closer, this was due to the fact that the it was mainly mongol heavy troops who wore armor, the Mongolian war tactics mainly relied on speed and mobility, the standard mongol warrior wore little to no armor

[@Ador828]

Well done basic stuff

[@s.wvazim6517]

Love this

[@skaagkaal2613]

Good luck with the self bow regardless if you decide to film the endeavor. You'll learn a lot just from the ordeal even if you don't get the product you envision or heaven forbid the bow breaks. Bow making is fun and I recommend Jim Hamm's book "Bows and Arrows of the Native Americans". I also recommend using weed trees invasive to America like Russian olive if it's in your area to learn on.

[@dmason8078]

Good one

[@codydunsmuir9398]

King Kamehameha next 🙏 please Or the tribes of the Peruvian coast

[@lucretious7]

Great episode, and I enjoyed the music you used too. One thing you didn't consider so much is the effect of home turf. The Comanche had such low numbers because they lived in a very arid place with a low carrying capacity for pre-modern people. But they could thrive in such a difficult environment. If you took 10k Mongols on horseback vs 10k Comanches on horseback, and have them fight in an environment like east Texas 1840, the results I think would be pretty close. Any force that held off the US military for decades would make for stiff competition.

[@datesanddeadguys]

My counter to this was that the carrying capacity was larger than the population due to the massive Buffalo herds. I have a hard time thinking a much larger force would have a hard time getting the food they need.

[@brianl4137]

Would love to see the bow build

[@kleokleopatra3536]

intersting comparison !!!!

[@PESO_NY]

High as fukk thinking to my self!!!!! What if the Mongols discovered the New World by exploring and expanding into Siberia, and then they crossed the Bering Strait into Alaska. What if they started a conquest up there, which they would undoubtably face little resistance and thru time and centuries they migrate south but by that time they already evolved into to what becomes the Comanche 😂😂😂

[@pickr2604]

If you need some Osage orange for your bow I can get you some. We call it bodark here. You think it’s wood but it’s almost like cutting steel. It’ll turn your entire shop yellow 😂

[@iamrichrocker]

how about the might Samurai as foes to the mongolians/Comanche..now that would be a sight to see..lack of mumbers might be the Samurai's downfall tho..and please show the bow crafting..i dig stuff like that too..great video..and glad to see your sub numbers climbing..

[@BigFists2024]

The chichimeca in Mexico defeated the samurai

[@chukwuv2738]

BROOOO YOU MUST MAKE THE BOW ON HERE

[@r0b0saurusrex80]

In regards to the Mongols at the height of their skill, motivation etc... A varied "professional" army of heavy infantry and Mixed Calvary of horse archers and heavy cavalry would defeat the Mongols. But that wouldnt happen for a long time. No one was allied with each other... small kingdoms would get overwhelmed by numbers of Mongol soldiers who were commanded by Generals who EARNED their rank. That is the most effective combination.

[@Daylon91]

I'd love to see an episode on us the Sioux, who were regarded as the finest horsemen in the world by Crooke and Benteen and the only red tribe of us to win not just little battles against the US govt but the greatest battles (Fettermans massacre) and the only war won by native american tribes.. Also, are u doing an episode on the Dillard Brothers. One 9 year old and the other 11 year old and how they whooped 30 Comanches. The 11 year old doing the only shooting.

[@t2realmadrid]

Maybe the Mamluks or the Janissaries