Dave Allens Top 5 All Time Best Heavyweights

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@JuniorD1975
@JuniorD1975 Ай бұрын
Let’s get the Rhino to 10000 subs. Dave won’t ask for the subs so let’s just do it for him.
@ATKnowles
@ATKnowles Ай бұрын
Dave i think you are a great person, all the best to you pal 👍🏽
@PriPLuXz
@PriPLuXz Ай бұрын
1. Dave Allen 2. The Peoples Champ 3. The White Rhino 4. The Doncaster De La Hoya 5. Papi PPV
@whiskeyrecord2170
@whiskeyrecord2170 Ай бұрын
Another top video Dave, keep it up.
@NewAgeBoxing7
@NewAgeBoxing7 Ай бұрын
Good list! In my opinion the top 5 is: 5. George foreman 4. Larry Holmes 3. Lennox lewis 2. Joe Louis 1. Muhammad Ali
@fantasyboxing71
@fantasyboxing71 Ай бұрын
Great list
@Dillinja2017
@Dillinja2017 Ай бұрын
That is my top 5 as well
@NewAgeBoxing7
@NewAgeBoxing7 Ай бұрын
@@Dillinja2017 great minds think alike 😂
@AminaAmina-xq4bb
@AminaAmina-xq4bb Ай бұрын
I think Foreman deserves to be higher in everyones list for the fact he was champ in the greatest heavyweight era of th 70's and the 2nd greatest era of the 90's...there is also a very high likelihood that George was clean in the 90's fighting against juiced to the gills guys.
@christopherstuckey2433
@christopherstuckey2433 Ай бұрын
Good list- great that it's all so debatable - here's mine for what it's worth 5 Joe louis 4 George foreman 3 Larry Holmes 2 Muhammad Ali 1 lennox Lewis
@rob1969in
@rob1969in Ай бұрын
So glad you said Marciano,I can relax now!
@Jayefive5
@Jayefive5 Ай бұрын
For some weird reason I enjoy listening to this dude!
@sagelight7777
@sagelight7777 Ай бұрын
Remember also that lewis had big problems with frank bruno early in their fight. Mike tyson destroyed bruno in 2 fights. i think for purists you have to look at tyson and say could any heavyweight ever beat him in his prime? Its tough to argue anyone could
@christopherstuckey2433
@christopherstuckey2433 Ай бұрын
On the night Mike fought spinks he was a match for ANYONE in history -Ali would hav struggling with him - he was much faster and more powerful than frazier and he nearly broke ali- foreman didn't like getting hit back -a prime Holmes would have been a test but Larry only just got past cooney and Mike would done him in a round! Lennox at his peak would have been a problem no doubt but he also could be knocked out
@marditoon1128
@marditoon1128 Ай бұрын
The top 10 is quite simple. In a any order. Joe Louis, Ali, Lennox Lewis, Bowe, Vitali Klitschko, Holmes, Frazier, Holyfield, Uysk, Foreman
@FearedAudacity
@FearedAudacity Ай бұрын
Wlad over Vitali all day
@leithkitchen3877
@leithkitchen3877 Ай бұрын
Fantastic channel . Great honest bloke. Great list it's difficult to say going through the era's but most people never pick current or fighters from the recent past in these lists except maybe lewis so fair play to you.
@AdamD-d3l
@AdamD-d3l Ай бұрын
Awesome top 5 right there 👍
@JuniorD1975
@JuniorD1975 Ай бұрын
Totally agree about Tyson
@Soccer-AM
@Soccer-AM Ай бұрын
Great content, great video…..Thank you Dave! 🙏
@PeterGreenough-m7t
@PeterGreenough-m7t Ай бұрын
Best boxing channel about 👊
@christophersavva9733
@christophersavva9733 Ай бұрын
Although I disagree I'm 45 lol tyson beat, burbeck at 21, spinks who never fought after, botha who was also a white rhino pinklon Thomas who was really good, Bruno x 2 and basically everyone else in a time when then where loafs of decent fighters all when he was under 22 hrs of age, and he was sooooo exciting to watch but I dud find your list really interesting and your reasons are solid, listen I've over the last month really enjoy your content mostly because you give us mortals a really interesting insight into an elite fighters mind, training and life, well done mate love your stuff brother x
@DBCHeavyweightBoxing
@DBCHeavyweightBoxing Ай бұрын
Great list.
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
Ali Louis Lewis Foreman Holmes Tyson never reached his potential but in his short prime he was phenomenal.
@Plan2Persuade
@Plan2Persuade Ай бұрын
Michael Spinks is Tysons best win
@christopherstuckey2433
@christopherstuckey2433 Ай бұрын
Pinklon Thomas was imo his best win - micheal was terrified
@punkpopnotdead
@punkpopnotdead Ай бұрын
Joe Frazier was my favourite fighter but your right Larry should be near the top of any list
@LancashireLad1975
@LancashireLad1975 Ай бұрын
Same here I love/d Joe Frazier.
@punkpopnotdead
@punkpopnotdead Ай бұрын
@@LancashireLad1975 hart on his sleave fighter
@wungabunga
@wungabunga Ай бұрын
People say Ali would be too small for modern heavyweights but every time he faced a monster he battered them. Now look at Usyk, the ‘middleweight’. Ali using modern, strength oriented training? Untouchable.
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
Ali was actually quite big for a heavyweight in his day.
@wungabunga
@wungabunga Ай бұрын
@@Glasschin2.0 yes, once he’d grown into his frame.
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
@@wungabunga even when he turned pro he was taller and heavier that most his early opponents. Some weight in the 170s.
@alaeddine1630
@alaeddine1630 Ай бұрын
My list of top 5 goes like this: 1-ALi, 2-Bowe, 3-Lennox, 4-Usyk, 5-Wlad .My reasoning for it, Ali as number one because he reigned supreme in one of the best heavyweight era of all time, beating the likes of Joe, Foreman, Sunny, Floyd, Shavers and was the first ever 3 time heavyweight champion, not to mention that he did all of that even though he's prime was stolen from him and he basically had it all, chin, speed, footwork, boxing IQ, heart, you name it. Bowe was an outstanding inside fighter, his chin was made of steel and even though his resume isn't the best, I think he was one of the best to ever do it. Lennox beat everyone even though Mike was out of it, and he didn't really revenge his loss to McCall because we all know what happened but he's resume is one of the best so he has to be top 3. Usyk could go higher if he beats Fury again, and he dominated two weight classes and did it against the era of giants. Wlad I think for a heavyweight he had crazy good footwork and jab and his power was something else ,add to that he is one of the longest reigning champions of all time so I believe he is in the top 5 heavyweights of all time. The list could change a bit if we're talking about resumes alone and not including talent.
@tonynewman8586
@tonynewman8586 Ай бұрын
Usyk no 4 🤣🤣🤣 you need to a doctor / usyk no 4 - that’s funny
@joewhite22
@joewhite22 Ай бұрын
Bowe ahead of Lennox? Lewis has a far superior resume and Bowe ran from Lewis at the time.
@wanderer8919
@wanderer8919 Ай бұрын
A similar list to yourself mate 1. Ali 2. Foreman 3. Usyk 4. Wlad 5. Lewis
@John.Pdcsta
@John.Pdcsta Ай бұрын
Bowe 😂😂😂
@christopherstuckey2433
@christopherstuckey2433 Ай бұрын
Wlad at 5 ? Do u not know he wasn't even the best heavyweight in his own family
@rossgaskell9055
@rossgaskell9055 Ай бұрын
Completely agree on th tyson opinion. Completer myth that he's any sort of all timer. Lost everytime he fought an elite opponent. Best ever win was an old Larry holmes
@LPS-lo9lp
@LPS-lo9lp Ай бұрын
Ok, here we go: 5.) Chris Byrd 4.) Herbie Hyde 3.) Trevor Berbick 2.) Charles Martin 1.) Audley Harrison
@meanon4408
@meanon4408 Ай бұрын
I'm 1992 as well. Read Joe Louis autobiography a few years back. He was washed when he fought Marciano and Marciano did it as a favour to help Louis out who was debt, he never quite recovered. 1. Muhammad Ali 2. Rocky Marciano 3. Joe Louis 4. Lennox Lewis 5. Wladimir Klitschko
@paulmichael9340
@paulmichael9340 Ай бұрын
Composing a Top 5 is a difficult task as like u said size wise and depth of talent in differing eras makes it very subjective. Who’d not make your Top 15 of all time?!!
@Dillinja2017
@Dillinja2017 Ай бұрын
Anyone who puts Tyson top 5 is completely wrong imo, Ali, Louis ,Lewis, Holmes, Foreman
@mavok5863
@mavok5863 Ай бұрын
Dave is that a massive new sticker on your wall?
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863 Ай бұрын
I do. Watch the Ted Talk on the hundred metres. Fascinating.
@mattyu1818
@mattyu1818 Ай бұрын
You should do two lists Dave. One "of their time" which you've just done and one where it's at their peak on their best night how would they have done against each other. That's where Muhammad Ali falls out and Tyson, Bowe etc comes in.
@christopherstuckey2433
@christopherstuckey2433 Ай бұрын
Great shout - the best tyson ie Mike spinks vs the best Ali vs Cleveland Williams would hav been magnificent
@Manassa1917
@Manassa1917 Ай бұрын
Jack dempsey in his time was without doubt the most famous sportsmen of his era Dempseys purse for one fight in 1926 was $750,000. This is more than Babe Ruth earned in his entire baseball career and more than the philadelphia phillies and st louis browns teams salary at the time. Dempsey was actually in the Guinness Book of World Records as the highest earning boxer of all time (including post career money making refereeing gigs) with a total of over ten million dollars in income, a record which was not broken until after Ali regained the heavyweight title from Foreman in the mid 1970s. Now, bear in mind that this $10,000,000 record was NOT adjusted for inflation. Jack was the highest paid athlete of 1925 without ever defending the title. People forget how great dempsey was Everything you'd want in a fighter Dempsey scrapes into my top 5.
@TPLK89
@TPLK89 Ай бұрын
Foreman needs to be in there I think hardly anyone past or present would have beaten him in 74. Holmes and Lewis maybe but who knows
@tonyh8965
@tonyh8965 Ай бұрын
Usyk being top 10 is hilarious
@offlineuser4588
@offlineuser4588 Ай бұрын
You having a laugh 😂 undisputed at hw and cruiserweight, undefeated, Olympic gold, an insane amateur record and you don't think he's not in the top 10 of all time. Close the door and turn the lights off on the way out casual
@Decapitorr
@Decapitorr Ай бұрын
Decent list
@andybud1983
@andybud1983 Ай бұрын
Agree with your Tyson comments. He was at the top in a particularly weak period. When holyfield and Lewis fought him, he was smashed.
@TheMrwacko55
@TheMrwacko55 Ай бұрын
Do you realize that Holyfield and Lewis are both older than Tyson? So they took better care of themselves in order to fight effectively into their late 30s, Tyson not so much… so you’re literally discrediting the guys who took better care of themselves… make that make sense
@andybud1983
@andybud1983 Ай бұрын
@@TheMrwacko55 discrediting holyfield and Lewis? Definitely not. I'm saying Tyson got to the top by beating the likes of Berbeck, an old Holmes and a light heavyweight in spinks. When he fought the top tier that came later, he wasn't up to it.
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
Tyson’s best win was probably spinks who he cleaned out.
@Mozza101
@Mozza101 Ай бұрын
You sparred me in Salford so I'm number 2 at least dave 😊
@Lee-py5bj
@Lee-py5bj Ай бұрын
I think jack johnson as well Dave for his illusiveness👊🏻
@gruffydd1000
@gruffydd1000 Ай бұрын
You cannot have a boxing list without Mahammad Ali.....err, you had one yesterday.
@billybeck
@billybeck Ай бұрын
Ali Marciano Holmes Louis Tyson Frazier, Foreman, Holyfield, Lewis, Usyk in no particular order for 6-10
@michaelcooney-t4i
@michaelcooney-t4i Ай бұрын
my only criticism is not putting l holmes top of the list, beat all the best heavy weight champs, and he should of held the most wins, but to be cheated by the judging community, for the sake of knocking marciano off his pedestal.
@Lakenbeer
@Lakenbeer Ай бұрын
That's a good list. A lot of people like to say 'prime tyson', but their 'prime tyson' is determined by when he was winning, it seems. Of course, he was on drugs and partying later in his career, but being disciplined, I would argue, is part of being a great fighter. What you do out of the ring and in it.
@christopherstuckey2433
@christopherstuckey2433 Ай бұрын
Even before he lost to Douglas he wasn't training properly - he was a wild young man - and Kevin Rooney struggled to keep rains on him - when Rooney left he was doing exactly as he pleased - the talent was never truly maximised unfortunately
@AminaAmina-xq4bb
@AminaAmina-xq4bb Ай бұрын
Greatest 1. Dorian Darch (for his ability to land a gamble) 2. Foreman 3. Ali 4. Marciano 5. Louis
@andrew4274-q4m
@andrew4274-q4m Ай бұрын
1. Muhammad Ali 2. George Foreman 3. Lennox Lewis 4. Larry Holmes 5. Olexander Usyk This is them in their prime fighting now, not era specific.
@jamesburrell677
@jamesburrell677 Ай бұрын
Holmes was Tyson's best win. He wasn't considered old at the time of the fight. He was considered the Champion and the King of the division and the slight favorite at the time of the fight. There was of course some old lion/young lion talk but it was not considered a foregone conclusion at all. Also, the Tyson that fought Holyfield was not considered a prime Tyson. That fight had been wanted for years but didn't happen sooner because of the loss of his trainer, divorce and incarceration. It's funny how anyone else losing a trainer that they regarded as a Father figure, going through a messy divorce and being incarcerated might be considered to be under duress but Mike Tyson was supposed to be unaffected. It's not a conversation I like because I'm not old enough to have seen certain fighters that should be considered but of the fighters I have seen Usyk #1, Ali #2, Holmes #3, Lewis #4 and then the usual suspects in no particular order. Oddly enough when I think of my clear #1 and #2 and wonder who would've maybe beaten them I think of 1988 Mike Tyson. 1988 Mike Tyson was prime Mike Tyson and I have never seen a fighter that was so feared and considered so unbeatable. It was a brief prime and like Spaghetti Carbonara and certain other dishes you can't just reheat them and recreate the magic. You have to understand what they are and enjoy them at the right time. A case can be made for Tyson but a case can be made that his prime didn't last long enough to make the list and then of course others can disagree altogether.
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
Spinks was his best win, spinks beat Holmes twice.
@jamesburrell677
@jamesburrell677 Ай бұрын
@@Glasschin2.0 I try to forget that one. I'm a big fan of Michael Spinks. Maybe the greatest LHW ever but he was easy work for Mike Tyson and his "wins" over Holmes are controversial.
@Dillinja2017
@Dillinja2017 Ай бұрын
Imo his best win over a prime heavyweight was Tony Tucker
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
@@jamesburrell677 I think the first fight was but I think spinks won the rematch. Close fight but he did enough in my opinion.
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
@@Dillinja2017 not sure on that Tucker was just there to survive and made it an awful fight. Would put the fights with Ruddock and Bruno ahead of that win.
@simontrifunovic1469
@simontrifunovic1469 Ай бұрын
Dave! You and Johnny have got the same hairdo 🫢 It’s like turning up at a party wearing the same dress…..
@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068
@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 Ай бұрын
1. Usyk 2. Ali 3. Lewis 4. Foreman 5. No idea, impossible to pick. Holmes/Frazier/Bowe/Fury/Vitali Klitschko Not even considering the guys from the 50s etc. as I just didn't see much of that era. I know Marciano doesn't belong in a top5 list though as he didn't fight anyone, only past their best guys. Picked Usyk #1 becuase he has the best career being undisputed in cw and hw. Olympic gold medal and the best amateur career anyone could possibly have with 300 wins and few losses against the best euro amateurs and is still undefeated as a pro and has never even been knocked down as a pro. He turned pro late and has mostly fought good opponents too.
@NSDB100
@NSDB100 Ай бұрын
1)Joe Louis. 2)Ali. 3) Sonny Liston. 4) Jack Dempsey. 5) Lennox Lewis. 6) Rocky Marciano. 7) George Foreman. 8) Larry Holmes. 9) Joe Frazier. 10) Mike Tyson.
@dansheehan1584
@dansheehan1584 Ай бұрын
Fury has got to be in top 5
@PunchOn1
@PunchOn1 Ай бұрын
Based on what. Wilder wins ?
@christopherstuckey2433
@christopherstuckey2433 Ай бұрын
No really serious just trolling right ?
@niallkennedy23
@niallkennedy23 Ай бұрын
Jack Dempsey should be in the top 5. In my humble opinion.
@Ghost-of-a-man
@Ghost-of-a-man Ай бұрын
Got to agree that Mike Tyson is nowhere near the top 5
@dang6092
@dang6092 Ай бұрын
Yep
Ай бұрын
Iron mike is number 1. Youngest heavyweight champion ever
@dang6092
@dang6092 Ай бұрын
Nowhere near
@dang6092
@dang6092 Ай бұрын
@@mistercutts and battering defenceless old folk too
@mavok5863
@mavok5863 Ай бұрын
​@@mistercuttsbro we all know that case was absolute BS, the girl was literally out dancing the next day.
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
Holmes wasn’t that old when he fought Tyson. He fought for another 14 years going 21-3. Twice more fighting for the world title against Holyfield and McCall.
@fantasyboxing71
@fantasyboxing71 Ай бұрын
@@Glasschin2.0 he'd been out of the ring two years, coming off two defeats and was given just over a month to train. He was completely rusty.
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
@@fantasyboxing71 still wasn’t old like Allen said
@fantasyboxing71
@fantasyboxing71 Ай бұрын
@@Glasschin2.0 he was 38, that's well past his physical prime. Not to mention he had been in a lot of wars and had a lot of miles on the clock. Tyson beat a version of Holmes who was old, Rusty, coming off a two year layoff, coming off back to back losses and who only barely a month to train due to Don King shenanigans. Holmes was probably not even 50% of what he was during this fight.
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
@@fantasyboxing71 that’s a lie the fight was signed before Tyson Fought Biggs. It was announced in October and they fought in January 88. He knew about the fight 6 months before and was training for a comeback. He was in shape for the fight.
@fantasyboxing71
@fantasyboxing71 Ай бұрын
@@Glasschin2.0 yeah go listen to Larry Holmes tell how king moved the date forward which meant he got about a month to train, it's literally on KZbin. You need to stop coping and accept that Tyson beat a shell of Larry Holmes. He wasn't young, he was 38. He had been in multiple wars. He was coming off back to back losses and a two year layoff. Holmes wasn't even remotely close to his best. It's almost as bad as saying that Holmes beat an in shape Muhammad Ali.
@RoundtableEntertainmentChannel
@RoundtableEntertainmentChannel Ай бұрын
You're a natural talker mate
@benfinesilver2250
@benfinesilver2250 Ай бұрын
You mentioned Berbick. He was underrated. Not anywhere near the best, but I’d fancy him over the likes of Joshua. Prime Berbick would drop Fury. Might not win, but he was savage.
@AndrewSmith-rh9kt
@AndrewSmith-rh9kt Ай бұрын
For me: 1. Joe Louis 2. Ali 3. Lewis. 4. Holmes. 5. Foreman.
@thetownsend2990
@thetownsend2990 Ай бұрын
Mike Tyson was undisputed for the 3 belt era
@barrysmith4999
@barrysmith4999 Ай бұрын
1. Ali 2. Lewis 3. Holmes 4. W.Klitschko 5. Marciano
@gezparks9630
@gezparks9630 Ай бұрын
When listing the top 5 heavyweights of all time Mike Tyson's name always comes up regardless of what is the result. Lol
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
To the causal fans yes
@Plan2Persuade
@Plan2Persuade Ай бұрын
5. Foreman 4. Holmes 3. Lewis 2. Holyfield 1. Ali
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863 Ай бұрын
1 Ali 2 Louis 3 Holmes 4 Lennox 5 Foreman
@jesusislord513
@jesusislord513 Ай бұрын
Joe louis would be jn there for me for The schmeling rematch, being beat the first time and then winning by 1st round demolition with the pressure he had on him at the brink of the war starting against a "representative" of nazi germany (listened to by 70million world wide) I don't think there's been another boxing event close to it with more meaning behind it.
@christopherstuckey2433
@christopherstuckey2433 Ай бұрын
Have u tried evaluating it by comparing them on their very best night - eg tysons demolishing micheal spinks vs the lennox who demolished rudduck - if u compare them just on their best day it becomes very difficult - holmes when he beat cooney vs the frazier who beat ali in their first fight it becomes very debatable
@tonynewman8586
@tonynewman8586 Ай бұрын
In no particular order . Mike Tyson / Rocky Marciano / Larry Holmes / muhamid ali and Joe Louis ….. it’s hard to give the top 5 heavyweights if not impossible . On the outside lookin In / Lennox Lewis . Joe Frazier . George Foreman . Jersey joe Walcott and Vladimir klitscco . …
@chunkyscotty
@chunkyscotty Ай бұрын
1) Muhammad Ali 2) Joe Louis 3) Lennox Lewis 4) Larry Holmes 5) Rocky Marciano * Usyk isn't on the list because I think you can only rank a fighter all time once they're retired but I agree he will go down as a p4p all time great.
@davidhayes4814
@davidhayes4814 Ай бұрын
Mike Tyson had (still has) a cult persona, which is a different thing to his boxing status. He captured people’s imagination … almost like Big Arnie did in The Terminator. Facts scarcely come into it.
@riverdean7
@riverdean7 Ай бұрын
usyk hasnt fought enough people at heavyweight to be top 5
@LancashireLad1975
@LancashireLad1975 Ай бұрын
I ain't watched it yet but you better have Smoking Joe Frazier in there. ✌️
@fantasyboxing71
@fantasyboxing71 Ай бұрын
Usyk is great but he doesn't belong on a top ten heavyweight list, his resume lacks the depth of other great champions. If he had another five defenses against good contenders perhaps he could be considered.
@JackRascal
@JackRascal Ай бұрын
I don't think that having Tyson outside of the Top 5 is that controversial. Maybe having Usyk in there and Louis not, I don't know. Like you say, it's hard to compare heavyweights, because it's not like-for-like.... for many fights in his career Muhammad Ali wouldn't even have made the modern heavyweight limit.
@idek3150
@idek3150 Ай бұрын
No particular order: Muhammad Ali Tyson Fury Oleksandr Usyk Lennox Lewis George Foreman
@idek3150
@idek3150 Ай бұрын
Also Joshua is not in the top 2 of the era lol he has never been in the top 3 of the era
@ripavah
@ripavah Ай бұрын
2:22 "he never boxed bowe" david he beat the guy who beat bowe twice...
@yorkiemike
@yorkiemike Ай бұрын
Boxing doesn't work like that though, does it?
@AndrewSmith-rh9kt
@AndrewSmith-rh9kt Ай бұрын
Nobody beat bowe twice and Tyson lost to holyfield both times.
@yorkiemike
@yorkiemike Ай бұрын
@@AndrewSmith-rh9kt Sorry I left an incorrect comment, clearly losing my mind.
@sagelight7777
@sagelight7777 Ай бұрын
If you are looking at legacy then yes Mike tyson isn't top 5 but if you look at it from the point of view of him at his very very best he's the best ever. I don't believe anyone could deal with him. He could deal with any reach, come inside and one of the most powerful punches ever. His defense and movement was extraordinary. But yes his legacy is nothing compared to some.
@chrisnewell1065
@chrisnewell1065 Ай бұрын
What if fury beats usyk? Does that put him up there?
@andrew4274-q4m
@andrew4274-q4m Ай бұрын
Ali went on too long, but was still the greatest. Also he was the same size as Usyk, so no reason why he couldn’t beat Fury.
@jakehtafc8342
@jakehtafc8342 Ай бұрын
Controversial opinion but i think ali is overrated bc of what he did outside of boxing and what he did yes he was great but i think lennox did more then him and possibly a few others id had him around the 3 spot Also love the channel dave
@jesusislord513
@jesusislord513 Ай бұрын
Had 2 wins against monsters in Liston and foreman
@SK-kh2rs
@SK-kh2rs Ай бұрын
Outside adds to the legacy. Had prime years taken away from him and still achieved what he did
@fantasyboxing71
@fantasyboxing71 Ай бұрын
Ali Louis Lewis Holmes Holyfield Foreman Marciano Wladimir Johnson Wills
@Adam-o1x2t
@Adam-o1x2t Ай бұрын
Obviously dave cares more about money then his own kids.
@Adam-o1x2t
@Adam-o1x2t Ай бұрын
I thought he was joking, but after watching dave's videos he always seems to forget a lot of things. Dave from my heart stop boxing, for your health. Slurring aswell. It's sad to watch. CTE is a serious thing !
@ToleVerban
@ToleVerban Ай бұрын
Hearn has really pushed this whole "resumé" thing over the traditional "record". Makes me cringe.
@darylsmith3945
@darylsmith3945 Ай бұрын
I agree about tyson, but would usyk beat prime Tyson 🤔
@giac8958
@giac8958 Ай бұрын
Dave Great list What Usyk achieved is absolutely incredible but I think that Vitali Klitschko would have beat him Mike Tyson would have knocked him out Sonny Lyston would have beat him George Foreman would have beat him So not sure about top 5
@32handsomeUK
@32handsomeUK Ай бұрын
Come on Dave !!!! wipe that smirk of eddies face, the same guy that under paid you and flogged you off !!! ALLEN IN ROUND 9/10 Do not be a punch bad Dave, let those hands go because he’s not a good fighter, he’s just a big puncher for 3 rounds
@SK-kh2rs
@SK-kh2rs Ай бұрын
Prime mike beats the heavyweights Usyk has beaten and would have gotten no credit. Agree hes not top 5 but how people have usyk in top 5 is beyond me
@allanthompson2394
@allanthompson2394 Ай бұрын
Yes, Larry Holmes was Tysons best victory
@Glasschin2.0
@Glasschin2.0 Ай бұрын
Foreman destroyed a prime Ken Norton in two rounds.
@frasersteen
@frasersteen Ай бұрын
Marciano is a tough one, big doubt in m mind about how many of his fights were fixed. Also I find it amazing that literally every sport under the sun has seen huge improvements in ability over the years. Tennis, golf, weightlifting, track and field. Every measurable aspect of human performance has improved but somehow boxing fans think these boys from 100 years ago (or 30 years ago even) would destroy today's fighters. I don't buy it.
@SK-kh2rs
@SK-kh2rs Ай бұрын
Old foreman was giving the new improved advanced 90 heavyweights hell 😂 Talent pool of heavyweights has declined as big lads in america dont bother with boxing no more. People will mention other countries are now into boxing but no nation touches usa due to its genetic diversity and size. Olympics show how they have the best athletes and none of the big gifted ones are bothering with boxing
@frasersteen
@frasersteen Ай бұрын
@@SK-kh2rs old George beat a lot of low tier opposition plus Moorer. If you are telling me that Frazier or Liston could beat the likes of Dempsey McKean and Otto Wallin I ain't gonna disagree with you.
@peep5118
@peep5118 Ай бұрын
If AJ isn’t in your top 5 you don’t know boxing.
@Swut
@Swut Ай бұрын
AJ been beaten by Ruiz, Usyk, Dubois. Not even top 5 of this generation let alone of all time, doesn’t even make the top 50 🤡🫵
@rob1969in
@rob1969in Ай бұрын
@@Swut If Aj goes in ,then so does Audrey Harrison!
@peep5118
@peep5118 Ай бұрын
@@rob1969in audrey top 8
@trollsarebad1541
@trollsarebad1541 Ай бұрын
He didn't have AJ in
@markrobinson7975
@markrobinson7975 Ай бұрын
1. Derek Chisora 2. Audley Harrison 3. BIG Baby 4. Prince Nazim 5. Anthony Joshua
@sajidmahmood5191
@sajidmahmood5191 Ай бұрын
Dave Please stop Fisher and make me Rich putting 1k on you
@AndrewSmith-rh9kt
@AndrewSmith-rh9kt Ай бұрын
Tyson doesn't make the top 10. Everyone judges him on what he might have been, not what he was. His record just isn't good enough you're right. Great heavyweight but not at the pinnacle all time.
@davidfleming6493
@davidfleming6493 Ай бұрын
No doubt Larry Holmes was a great boxer but his resumè wasn't very good at all. His best win was probably a debatable one against Ken Norton who had seen better days. Tyson's resumè is actually better in my eyes, although neither has a stand out win against another great. Tyson may have lost to Lewis and Holyfield but Holmes lost to Michael Spinks twice. I couldn't have Larry top 5, nor Tyson either.
@roathripper
@roathripper Ай бұрын
worrabout jake paul?
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863 Ай бұрын
And Ronnie P
@rob1969in
@rob1969in Ай бұрын
@@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863 n big john Fury
@Filmmaker2022
@Filmmaker2022 Ай бұрын
I agree with you about Tyson. I would say his best win was Larry Holmes for sure. He did that with style.. he was the only person to knock Holmes out (and look what Holmes did after Tyson)... so that was a good win. Controversially I wouldn't put Ali in the top 5 .. He got lucky against Norton. and just don;t think he would beat the giants of the division like Lennox Lewis etc. For me: 1: Joe Louis 2. Lennox Lewis 3. Usyk 4. Larry Holmes 5. Dave Allen & Vitali Klit (tied)
@Repcitykickz
@Repcitykickz Ай бұрын
Ali was not the greatest it infuriates me when people call him the greatest of all time. He wasn't great he was good at best. He's only remembered because of his political views and for standing up for his race. Yes, that's commendable, but he's far, far from the greatest..
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863 Ай бұрын
Sorry, he beat Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Shavers and Lyle. The first two were considered monsters...and unbeatable. Also remember, his prime years, 27 to 30, were taken from him.
@jamescoyle7254
@jamescoyle7254 Ай бұрын
What gives you the right to be "infuriated"?? It's just one man's opinion Maybe he would be "infuriated" by your choice. But I doubt it..... He's too sensible
@SK-kh2rs
@SK-kh2rs Ай бұрын
This is absolute nonsense 😂. Outside the ring adds to the legacy as he had his prime years taken away. He was competing in an unreal era where it was 15 rounds and shined the most. His most iconic moment isnt what he did outside the ring its the ko of foreman. No other boxer has an iconic moment that is universal like that moment.
@fantasyboxing71
@fantasyboxing71 Ай бұрын
Ali fought 37 fighters who were ranked in the top ten when he fought them and beat 32. He beat all of the top guys in the 60s and the 70s and left no stone unturned. He beat all time greats such as liston, foreman, Frazier and Norton. I think he was a bit better than "good."
@Repcitykickz
@Repcitykickz Ай бұрын
@fantasyboxing71 he's not the greatest, tho in my opinion. As Dave said, others' top 5s will be different.. Lennox lewis would have played with ali & so would holyfield. Fury would rag doll him, and uysk would have made him look stupid, and I still would ony put 2 of those in my top 5.
@DannyPower-r2m
@DannyPower-r2m Ай бұрын
Your a dreamer lol
@tonyh8965
@tonyh8965 Ай бұрын
Definitely not Marciano. Not even too 10 on resume’. Mike Tyson had a way better resume’. Only reason he in there because undefeated. Best wins against old timers
@tonyhopkins8250
@tonyhopkins8250 Ай бұрын
He beat Spinks
@BOXINGFREEKS
@BOXINGFREEKS Ай бұрын
Tyson is very much hyped up by casuals, but aversely he is unfairly underrated by the avid fans. When Mike beat Larry Holmes he was TWENTY ONE, Holmes was 38, a year older than Usyk is now, and a year younger than Joe Joyce who a year ago was seen as a massive threat. If you watch Larry Holmes, you know his signature style was to throw out the left jab that had accuracy and timing to destroy heavyweights. During the fight with Tyson, Mike closed the distance and Larry constantly resorted to stiff arming Mike and couldn't use his main attribute. What makes this more telling is that actually, Larry Holmes lost to Oliver McCall three years prior at age 35, a prime age for a HW of that shape. McCall who went on to lose convincingly to Frank Bruno. We all know the level of Frank, and we know how it paled to Mike. Not to mention McCall losing to Tony Tucker, who Mike also beat at a young age of 21. He also lost to Spinks three years prior too, twice. Spinks who we know as a very nice name on the record of Mike. Spinks' only defeat was by Mike Tyson. Yes McCall did beat Lennox Lewis but that was a very lucky shot and Lennox avenged that in devastating fashion. Now the argument of whether he deserves Top 5 is still very clear, it's a hard five to get in to. But "doesn't get near it" and "far from" are very much unfair, Mike was a 20 year old Boy when he beat Trevor Berbick. During that era too there were a lot of boxers underestimated by their lack of fame - whom Mike beat.
@FaceDownFemi
@FaceDownFemi Ай бұрын
Valuev Ali Lewis Louis Hide
@roathripper
@roathripper Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863 Ай бұрын
White Rhino Big Cat The Rabbit The Old Mongoose The Wild Bull of the Pampas
@FaceDownFemi
@FaceDownFemi Ай бұрын
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863 I was going to put White Rhino in but Hides roll about in the rain swung it for me
@stratblaster
@stratblaster Ай бұрын
You cant have convicted rapists in a top anything.
@besty8974
@besty8974 Ай бұрын
Where the fuck is Hughie Fury?!
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