Dave Feldman - 'New Data on Energy, Exercise, and Cholesterol'

[@visanchezdiaz]

I started a 90% carnivore diet, after doing a strict keto diet for 6 months... on a blood test done in early July my triglycerides were 233 mg/dL, HDL 69 and LDL 202; a little concerned about the triglycerides, so I started looking on the internet and found Dave Feldman's self experiment. With that in mind I repeated the blood test a week later now making sure to be in a 12 hour fast window and my TG were 156, HDL 87 and LDL 276... not being totally sure about it, a month later I did the blood test again, now on a 18 hour fast window and my TG were 51, HDL 83 and LDL 337... having said that, I totally support Feldman's hypothesis.

[@a.nefertiti6980]

Layperson here: does this wide variability not suggest that these tests are unreliable in gaging health, if they can vacillate so much according to when the blood test is done? What do you think?

[@roses09]

It's been 3yrs, how are you doing now? I'm hoping to stay carnivore for as long as possible.

[@PedroTeixeira]

Thank you for sharing your data!

[@Rita-je6ix]

Watching excellent videos like this confirms what has been happening to me. Recently, I lost over 30 lbs using keto and intermittent fasting, and finally I am on the BMI chart as 'normal'. My fasting Glucose 91, A1c 5.5, HDL 66, Triglycerides 75, LDL 194, Total 275... Instead of focusing on the good stuff, my (very overweight) pcp doctor immediately started to zero in on that high number and suggest statins. I walked out, and am now looking for a new pcp who is not overweight and knows the science. You must become your own doctor as the last several I have visited have all been obese.

[@TB1M1]

That's bad. TC/HDL is 4.2. A lot of bad cholesterol is circulating in your system. Triglycerides are are secondary factor to heart disease. The Cleveland Clinic Studies show this. www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/01.cir.92.6.1430

[@rjlp128]

@@TB1M1 that study was 1995. Old outdated info now

[@Noor-jw2tn]

@@TB1M1 you haven't been listening.

[@jwscheuerman]

@@TB1M1 What does the ratio of TC to HDL have to do with "triglycerides"?? LOL. Did you read the study you linked to? What did that study characterise as a "high triglyceride" level?

[@1dutchess68]

👏👏👏

[@WebTVRebel]

Dave, this is huge. Thank you so much. This raises so many new questions about FDA, AMA, CDC and more.

[@kathya1956]

Todd Layfield n = 1

[@RedPillVegan]

What questions, specifically, as directed towards each individual organization related to what specific guidelines or policy? With direct relevance to the information in this video.

[@tylerh629]

@@RedPillVegan Why all those organizations push high carb and plant based diets when it is quite obvious that there is evidence calling into question that policy. Continuing this ridiculous ad hoc approach based off the diet heart hypothesis scam is killing people. Also why these organizations continue their assault on LDL when the NMR lipoprofile test and NHANES data sets have shown that LDL is a garbage marker by itself for cardiovascular health. Indeed lowering it has worse effects than leaving it alone. It is time that the above organizations dropped their pride and accepted that the evidence against their recommendations is mounting from people like Dave and the other hundreds of studies in pubmed.

[@BatkoBrat]

@@tylerh629 i agree with everything you wrote, except for this one thing you said about the pride of organizations like FDA AMA and others. I personally don't think it's about the pride, i think it's about profit. Carbohydrate based foods like grains are cheaper to produce and can have longer shelf life then most animal based products. Also, foods high in sugar make you crave more (you guessed it) foods that are high in sugar so the companies making these products can make billions of dollars. The above-mentioned organizations are just corrupted and are paid huge amounts of money by the sugar and food corporations to market their products as hearth-healthy. One more point: This is a vicious circle of food intustry, the FDA, WHO (and other organizations) and pharmaceutical giants like big farma. One thing leads to another, but to cut the long story short, if food companies focused on producing and marketing really healthy foods, then the pharmaceutical companies would be out of business. So, to keep this going they have to advertise unhealthy food as healthy trough WHO FDA and others.

[@kimberlycooper4170]

I totally agree with the reasons given for why government, non-profit health organizations, and for-profit food and pharmaceutical corporations are telling us to eat HCLF, vegan, and vegetarian. I looked online at the American Diabetes Association's (ADA's) financial supporters. Although individuals are giving money, the publicly-traded corporations (PTCs), that make money from selling diabetes drugs and supplies, are giving money to the ADA. Conflict of interest much?!? To get a good understanding, study history by reading the books "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz and "The Case Against Sugar" by Gary Taubes. Also, search online for < fettke AND "temperance movement" >.

[@deborahschweinberg8208]

Just had my blood work done a week ago. I have been doing Keto and intermittent fasting for almost 3 months now. My numbers came back Total cholesterol of 272, LDL 179, HDL 82, triglycerides 62. I feel great. I am still overweight slowly losing it but very active. My lab work and urinalysis shows I was in ketosis when the blood was drawn. My doctor is freaking out! He says I am much to young to die of heart disease. He listened to my heart for a long time and said it was fine. He gave me a prescription for lowering my cholesterol which I will not take because I DON’T want to get heart disease. I need to go back in 4 weeks to have my blood drawn again and I will try to follow your protocol to lower my cholesterol.

[@RCThis]

Report back your findings

[@markopolo8845]

It’s the ratio of HDL to LDL that’s important. Your numbers are fine. See Ivor Cummins’ videos or book for more info.

[@Pepe_Sorribes]

Amazing work. This is just a hypothesis, but something else that might also be contributing to the progressively lower LDL-C observed during the white bread experiment, is that the endothelium cells (and other tissues' cells) are sustaining progressive membrane damage (via lipid peroxidation due to higher oxidative stress). Thus, the LDLs in blood are being used up by the endothelial / other tissues' cells to supply phospholipids & cholesterol for repair. Similar to the effect of resistance training, but this time in an uncontrolled manner that leads to metabolic dysfunction.

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

woah...

[@dana102083]

All I can say is WOOOOOWWWW... We ned to replicate more of you, Dave!!! Keep up the great work for humanity!! Xoxox

[@NonaK-mz8oy]

God bless you, Dave. An incredible research, determination, perseverance. The bottom line is that you help thousands of people. Hopefully, one day, those in higher level and regular citizens will see the whole picture. Thank you!

[@realDaveFeldman]

That's very kind, Nona -- thank you. 🙏

[@iroc341]

As usual, I learn more from Dave , than any doctor . Thank You DR Feldman.... DR diet researcher !

[@corwynwarwaruk2141]

How can a single blood test for something that changes hourly dictate how a doctor is required to treat cholesterol?

[@zambrocca]

magic of modern "medicine"

[@2tommyrad]

not that this is a complete answer but, when you get a blood test, it's performed 12 hours after eating [12 hour fast]. Beyond that... find a 'REAL' doctor.

[@blkbbw8295]

I guess get tested when at least 12 hours fasted will tell you what your true cholesterol levels are. And anything under 12 hours will give you a false reading.

[@bigbrooklyn]

After watching this you cant have an accurate reading... Then again if we are to assume the numbers they give us are to be true. My opinion...they give numbers most will fall into allowing them to prescribe more meds.

[@donnyrichard3143]

Idiot Drs should not touch cholesterol..fools think Drs any good. Sort the junk food

[@sonyaj66]

Fantastic talk and data sharing, Dave! I'm one of those who entered my lipid profile data on your website based on an elevated LDL following a relatively low-carb pescatarian (not strict keto, but I eat limited quantities of high-quality carbs like berries, sweet potatoes and beans), and on probably 95% of days, I fast a minimum of 12 hours, with it usually being 14-16. My Dr. was bothered by my elevated LDL; never mind that my TG was something like 24, my VLDL was 8 and my HDL was good. She suggested possibly using a statin in the future - hell no!! Also, never mind that the labs I requested to look at inflammation were low (well, homocysteine was on the higher end of normal; I may have a B12 deficiency...), but my cardiac-specific C-reactive protein was 0.24, I think, which is incredibly low. When I ran all my numbers through the AIP formula on your site, it gave me a negative number. For reference, I'm 53, 5'6", and weigh around 120. My % body fat is a bit less than 20%. I lift weights and regularly do fasted cardio now (which I found to be by far the best way to do even long runs; I have yet to ever "bonk"). So yeah, it isn't going to be CVD that takes me out ;). I don't have the financial or logistical means to run labs regularly, but I'd love to know how my labs change before and after the 9-mile fasted runs I've done. I figure between the fasting, lower carb and sustained aerobic exercise, I've likely depleted my liver and muscle glycogen, and am running on ketones. What is my BG and LDL like under these conditions? Very curious! Cheers, Sonya

[@frankacuso]

2 thumbsdown? I don't understand how anybody would do this to a very informative video.

[@andyspark5192]

If someone has a bias opinion about something, they will dislike it every time. 2*2=4 Guess their response to that.

[@danam.5433]

They work for the statin industry.

[@trucid2]

Some people misclick on mobile.

[@kwagnert]

Either a vegan or a bigparma rep.

[@blkbbw8295]

I think someone else said it’s because he used highly processed carbs instead of wholefoods carbs in his white bread experiment? So they felt he was demonising all carbs.

[@NotraNaum]

Hooray for actual science!

[@KETODiamond]

I can say this much. In 4 months all my health markers improved. I had 25 diseases, now just 1. I'm down 133 pounds in 2 yrs. Triglycerides went from 367 to 64

[@ds54ds5sd5sd5]

Hello. My English is not so good, so I must ask you to make me understund it better if you give me the answer: The more we fast on low carb food, the lower Triglycerides go down( but without coffee ). But I don't get the link between Triglycerides and health, we better keep it lower? (So , don't drink coffee? I was looking Jason Koon interview about nutrition(he is poker player, plays alot of hours), he is on keto and drinking alot of coffee with some MCT oil. Or I get It wrong about Triglycerides? Please help me with this if you have a few minutes

[@kathya1956]

KETO Diamond Channel 25 diseases?

[@tylerh629]

@@ds54ds5sd5sd5 The idea of "keeping your triglycerides low" means that you are using the energy in the blood effectively. Low means you are burning it, high means that you are not burning it. I think the idea is that, if you don't burn it and it goes up, the VLDL and IDL particles that hold them can get stuck into places it shouldn't be.

[@TB1M1]

there are often no symptoms for heart disease.

[@jamesgoodwin7742]

KETO Diamond Channel interesting. I had the same results from increasing my carbs and dropping my fat and protein.

[@gattamom]

So...what steps should be followed put these findings into practice for those with scheduled annual bloodwork and have physicians who rely on conventional markers for prescribing statins?

[@blkbbw8295]

Adriana Gutierrez a Bread 🥖 🍞 🥯 diet + weight training a week before the test perhaps? 🤔

[@victorcraig2525]

Dave can you please let me know what is the best diet

[@xnighthawk6371]

Great talk this guy has a good soul... But where was the information about EXERCISE and ENERGY like it says in the description???

[@Shahidaprynce]

Dave is the truth, man. I really appreciate what he's doing!

[@janonthemtn]

OMG!! You are the only one doing anything on lipedema!!!Thank You!

[@realDaveFeldman]

There really does need to be more attention paid to lipedema -- particularly in low carb

[@palyne]

@@realDaveFeldman I was so happy when I saw someone mention lipedema! It's surreal how this can be such a huge issue for such a huge block of population and almost totally unknown even to doctors!

[@mjf1036]

Very interesting and simply adds to my belief that tracking, worrying about cholesterol levels is mostly useless.

[@irvpaton8626]

I appreciate your citizen scientist comments. It may get me off my but to share some very fascinating things I figured out about my own crisis.

[@250txc]

Just self education really but you gotta think on your own. The best education I got on money-matters was when the USA allowed the mortgage system to crash our banking system. Then after the crash, all the brilliant ones stood around, clueless, and acted as dumb as your or me? That was a real education!

[@palyne]

Please do. Nearly every good thing I have found and benefitted from that I didn't think up myself to deal with my health issues, came from things I found online.

[@shawn9015]

Love your work Dave. One request dive into how to read a NMR. What each value means and how to understand them.

[@realDaveFeldman]

Shawn I’ll see if I can fit that into a future video

[@heythere6983]

@@realDaveFeldman maybe some kidney function test please? Kidney function tests have always been interesting to me since im usually eating higher protein over the years and usually have high BUN numbers. ,Not long after a meal I had a bloodowrk done recently and it said I had low t3 (thyroid) function and of course bun ratio was a bit high (triglycerides were 404, glucose 80), but we know protein can do this(cause bun ratio going out of "normal" range) and supposedly dehydration but it then blurs the line with genuine kidney issues. Hard to decipher until God forbid its too late. The Test provider said I had "mixed hyperlipidemia" , Yet a week prior to that I went fasted, and those issues with thyroid and high triglycerides weren't there ( I had fasted at least 14 hours for that test. I didnt get a BUN result for that test because the wonderful staff lost my urine). The numbers were high only after the meal but I wondered if I did just consume way too much red meat and fat and was taxing my body. Atfirst I thought it was because I was on antibiotics for a while before I got those tests and the antibiotics messed with my organs ( but it did make me react to food and get histamine reactions, possibly related to kidneys aswell?) but then I realized my peculiar results were after eating, not fasted for 14 hours. So I wonder if simply after you eat you stress out your body quite a bit (in this case, stress out your thyroid and kidneys), and maybe its not an indicator of "stressing it" out and just normal for post meal reactions in your body. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case but there isn't any information on it that I've found and kidney function and lots of meat is always sold as a big issue...Im not insured right now so I cant afford to do any tests for a while lol (chloride and urea nitrogen were also high after the meal if that matters) . There is a correlation to thyroid and kidney function. So im assuming since my t3 was in the normal range when I fasted maybe the kidneys would have had a better BUN ratio aswell. Again, since the doctors sucked and lost my urine I wont know for sure. But the 2nd time I got the test the t3 and kidney function were supposedly off. I think this correlation could aid in the understanding of any worry with carnivore and kidneys and possibly thyroid. Doctors and vegans love to claim red meat alone can mess up your kidneys.

[@NonaK-mz8oy]

you are doing an incredible job... I wonder if your research is on a great demand ...as it must be!

[@takeoffyourblinkers]

Yet the establishment will still call LCHF dangerous. Here in Australia, Keto is recognized for helping psychosis, yet the person I heard on the radio the other day said it isn't a diet you would suggest to an average person. As she called it, an extreme diet. Yet a more extreme diet, like veganism is somehow ok, Mediterranean is always their go to, to push the plant based narrative. Don't get me wrong, getting the masses to at least eat more real whole foods is great, but that is exactly what paleo, LCHF and keto are all about, somehow they are the demons in this whole paradigm. It is like in politics, the mainstream will always praise the left to being righteous and progressive, yet the right side or conservative is demonised, like there is something wrong with having different values that the the all righteous MSM and left don't agree with. The similarities are quite uncanny imo.

[@goolagoonya8140]

Absolutely mate. Was listening to ABC Perth the other afternoon a nutritionist with a uni degree said keto was dangerous and advocated a plant based diet. They just won’t accept the truth.

[@fanOmry]

@@goolagoonya8140 A Very Sad, Funny Truth: The Carnivorous Diet is better for the environment. Less poison. the Fertilizer requires you to either use Fossile fuel, Or Slaughter Animals by the herds. And I didn't include those trapped in the harvesting. Result? Fields become basically Zombie-Fields. Only kept fertile by technology. Carnivorous- Animals are kept in nature-like conditions so the habitat doesn't atrophy. No need for poison. No need for Fertilizers by human actions. Carbon Negative- It absorbes it. Can be incorporated into a multi-story greenhouse.

[@250txc]

@@fanOmry You make some good points but you cannot go without fertilizers to a big degree on huge acres...Same with poisons to some degree. The amount of acres grown today are well beyond that thinking... Just another sign of the times. Yes we need better stuff for managing our crops...

[@250txc]

@@goolagoonya8140 If you break this down, it is nothing more than forcing out bodies to use fat for fuel instead of CARBS. The body has always used fat for fuel. Guys like Dave and several others are now showing what we did not know -- All this CARB burning, that our bodies can do, is very bad over the long haul for our livers and this insulin problem, is killing us over time AND DRIVING UP HEALTH COSTS! F any political leader who ignores this. PERIOD. When confronted with ignorance, just ask the ignorance one a simple basic question on what he uttered. Then ask a second, third question on what he utters ... Actually fun watching an ignorance one stumble here BUT don't be too arrogant or belittling... Belligerence is another form of ignorance and some ignorant ones will get belligerence because they have nothing else in their tank.

[@TB1M1]

It increases your risk of death via high cholesterol, irrespective of triglycerides. www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/01.cir.92.6.1430

[@realDaveFeldman]

Thank you all for the wonderful comments! I'll see if I can answer some over this week (feel free to respond this comment as well), but if you're reading this later than that or I missed you below, you can always visit us at CholesterolCode.com/questions . Cheers!

[@hillsofwi]

I appreciate your efforts very much. My lipid profile is classic LMHR and your science based info. gives me confidence to go forward w/ a diet that I feel better on. I am wondering if you would consider experimenting w/ Resistant Starch? I eat a sizable amount of raw oats, cooked and cooled rice/wild rice and cold beans. My basic understanding is that this type is not able to be processed w/ digestive enzymes but instead travels to the large intestine where it is broken down by microbes and converted to short chained fatty acids. So should this food be considered a lipid? I feel good when eating this and don't feel a glucose spike. Many thanks.

[@dover962]

Thank you for all you do! Please let me know if I miss something but from the results you presented, in order to get the most accurate cholesterol results, I should do two things : 1)fast at least 12 hours 2) drink no coffee just in case I'm coffee sensitive (not sure if that means just the morning of testing or never drink coffee)

[@realDaveFeldman]

85bigsky I may do an experiment on resistance starch - but I have quite a queue right now, so it might not be until next year.

[@realDaveFeldman]

Dover That’s what I’d speculate, yes.

[@TheShumoby]

23:53 Is the dietary fats in grams?

[@adamforte7297]

Fantastic! I used to have diabetes and I haven’t shared with friends on social media what I did to reverse it. Mostly because I want to see if it sticks and people may not believe me but I can change views even if just a few. I’m going to share my experience with others hopefully it helps. Thank You

[@qanononabong8491]

Share it with us, now.

[@RedPillVegan]

Stories like this are encouraging. Did you use Keto? do you plan on eating less than ~ 50 grams of carbs per day for the rest of your life? What happens if you eat an apple?

[@TheHerbdude]

My wife is not diabetic anymore, like you, because of changing our diet. People that comment on the change they see in us are far more likely to actually listen to how we did it than randomly broadcasting it. A lot of folks turn into Keto-Evangelists, which turns everyone off just like multilevel marketing. Just my experience.

[@astridjaye6224]

You can’t give a buildup like that and not deliver;)

[@Earwaxfire909]

It would be very helpful if you could summarize your results from your experiments in some fashion and explain what you think is important. These data could be useful but it is hard to follow and draw any real conclusions since there are so many things going on.

[@250txc]

909, understanding what he says is the fun part and a way to exercise your brain AND to confirm you fully understand what he is saying. So go back, watch the video many times, stopping it as often as needed on the graphs so you can read and understand them. You might have to do this several days in a row because it seems like the brain needs time to fully comprehend fully when so much data is introduced on a new subject. After you do this and get the basic idea here, all preceding videos on the topic will be easier to understand the first, second time listening. Don't be afraid to think and that goes for all HUMANS. You might be surprised how many stupid ideas are right in your face by so many 'glorified ones' in life.

[@MariJ487]

Maaan, you guys are doing a great job and phenomenal videos!!! Keep up the good work!!

[@protoword10]

Amazing...I was on keto and my triglycerides were high (187). I was wondering why? I’ll try your suggestion (I drink also a lot of coffee) Thank you Dave!

[@TB1M1]

Blood sugars on keto usually increase over time.

[@250txc]

@@TB1M1 Can you please that line of thought?

[@250txc]

poto, just a guess here but your body should have fat somewhere because it is being used for fuel. So a important question might be: "When and how was this test conducted?" This video alone shows almost all these variables running up and down all over the place BUT Dave normally does have graph showing a trend of some sort.

[@priusdave2064]

Redo everything with finger prick. The manual on the continuous monitor say it can be 40% inaccurate. It was that after 3 months of careful monitoring.

[@sandpaper631]

Quitting caffeine changed my life!! I’m 7 months no caffeine, no teas and I’m a new person.. I have that child like happiness back, I’m sleeping so good, erections coming back like concrete.

[@gratitude5740]

Al Haymon tmi 🤣

[@4bennybear]

How much coffee were you drinking .tia

[@jradbarrientos5274]

My wife's gonna be happy when she reads this.. Hahaha

[@shaunr5450]

Good news, I'm about to try it and this will motivate me some more.

[@jasoncdebussy]

"Caffeine is not the kicker".

[@jamaloogy]

Or is it drinking coffee takes out triglycerides from fat cells out to blood stream for energy use during IF?

[@TheHeathjblackwell]

I think a lot of anecdotal and some lab testing supports this, and it makes sense if you think about coffee's mechanisms of action. Nicotine would be another interesting chemical to test in this way

[@250txc]

@@TheHeathjblackwell F nicotine! Test over!

[@reneronquillo753]

In your opinion what would optimal lipid panel numbers look like? TotalC, HDLC,TRI, LDLC?

[@greekgirl55]

Thank you for all your hard work and information.

[@mikec7722]

Wow! So glad I found this channel. I’ve been struggling with my cholesterol all my life. I’m going straight to Cholesterolcode.com and plugging in my numbers.

[@HealthCoachKait]

Dave does it again! 👏👏👏

[@dogcrazy25]

Good info. I guess I need more of a summation. I'll listen again when I'm not distracted

[@Jessica-mu4vq]

Awesome, very informative, keep them coming :)

[@RC-bl2pm]

Im intensely interested in this mans message but I find this lecture hard to understand because I'm just a layman. Can anyone link him speaking to a a different crowd and using simpler terms?

[@4bennybear]

I paused the vid and looked up the word I didn't understand. And now I'm less of a layman

[@KetOMAD]

4:21 To see Dave's great rebuttal of the criticism from Peter Attia et al. that his parameters are unnecessarily restrictive.

[@Grze9898]

Where do you know that it was Peter from?

[@hillsofwi]

@@Grze9898 Peter's podcast w/ Dave.

[@pigaman1]

Thanks so very much for all the hard work you and your crew do. Data is data whether is medical or any other form. When I told my PCP that I was a retired Electrical Engineer, he actually started asking me for data sources that I was quoting while explaining to him why I was hesitant to go on a statin drug. Four years ago when I started with my Doc, he said to me that at 68, you know your body way better than I do, we'll work together. Keep up the great work!!

[@markusantonious8192]

The prime message here is that time restricted eating is *the* critical intervention....And fasting 12 hrs is minimal...Most 'intermittent fasters' are doing 16 hrs minimum..every day. In short, yes, eat 'well', cut out sugar, lower your carbs....but it is the *timing*, i.e. maximizing the fasting interval, that is the most significant factor in improving one's health profile.

[@binary]

what about one 24 hour fast every week.

[@AnimaLibera]

Great presentation as always, Dave! Thank you for all you do to help the rest of us. You do make a difference and you are valued!

[@rfshields1]

Ankle and calf edema first, then lower abdomen fluid followed by swollen scrotum and buried penis, apparently caused by milk allergy. I tested after 4 days of carnivore diet by eating cottage cheese, kefired whipping cream and milk...swelling was back in a big way. Now off dairy for 20 days and swelling is approaching zero after over a year of appointments with a variety of doctors. I’ve been on keto way of eating almost 7 months.

[@530mk]

The Weizmann Institute of Science (via gut biome, genetics, etc ) is showing how each person reacts differently to foods.....for some a croissant with butter and jam spikes blood sugar and for others it does nothing....I wonder if you would consider this test and as part of your preamble describe how certain foods are friendly to you or not. It seems more and more that one persons experience with diet and health is different from others.

[@astridjaye6224]

Well said

[@SydneyCarton2085]

I suspect genetics have a significant role on how diet affects us. I mean lactose tolerance and intolerance is an obvious one.

[@dennishp]

This is interesting way of monitoring health. Im planning to do this: I sleep 7hrs a day (7pm to 2am) I work at 3am till 8am. 9am: Prepare my meal. Scrambles 10 eggs w/10 pinches of sea salt and cooked in 10 tbsp of lard (i rendered). 10am drink plain black coffee (2 sticks of nescafe regular coffee) with tbsp of butter (unsalted) 11 am to 2pm: Strength training (rest the next day) drinking 2 liters with 8 pinches of salt within workout time 3pm : Eats scrambled eggs Drink a liter of water, eats tbsp of butter 4:30 to 5:30pm- Running 5km 6pm : Eats dinner 7pm sleep What do u guys think about this? P. S. I would eat meat and beef liver as substitute for eggs.

[@polentusmax6100]

thats a lot of eggs dude, make sure they are organic. i would add beef heart or other organs, if you add liver with that much eggs you will pee green (i tried lol).

[@Noor-jw2tn]

@@polentusmax6100 not really. Vince Gioronda ate upto 36 eggs a day.

[@BradHughes10]

For the whiteBread experiment, how long had you fasted before checking your numbers? Just wondering if the 12 hour fast or longer would have dropped your triglycerides after all those carbs.

[@MYfriendsknow]

Thank You Dave and crew!

[@shelly2758]

Excellent, dave, as always! Keep up the good work!

[@johannes6760]

I may be wrong. But I interpreted that Coffee raised Trig not caffeine!?!? Sean had Decaf (no caffeine) and still his Trigs were raised.

[@realDaveFeldman]

Yes - we find it’s more specific to coffee. We haven’t seen it in heavy tea or diet soda drinkers as of yet.

[@peplegal8253]

Most stimulants increase adrenal hormones (cortisol and adrenaline), which in turn increase triglycerides. Coffee has a huge number of chemicals...caffeine is only 1%~2%. Before century 18th, coffee was used as medical or ritualistic purpose...nowadays it's a daily food. I can't survive without my coffee. .

[@RoScoHutch]

Regarding Dave’s comments at the end, it seems like he’s in a unique position to not only encourage more N of 1 experiments but maybe even coordinate them? It seems like crowd-sourced science could be exponentially more effect if all of the N of 1’s were performing many of the same experiments, following the same controls, then pooling their results together. Then we would have the best of both worlds, the power of N of 1 for each individual and the power of N of many to have a stronger, more established message.

[@realDaveFeldman]

Scott Hutchison Ya know... there might just be something I’m helping to set up right now along those same lines. ;)

[@greatpilatesnow]

When I started Keto I kept it under 5 grams. Lost weight and lots of toxins! I lost weight too fast in hindsight. Felt very sick during the process. I wasn't lipodemic though. I coach some who are. Fasting and walking has worked for them. I must say there's some psychology needed with for them. That's what I do along with Keto.

[@sweetcara14]

There is some evidence that what a lot of people are missing when they feel sick going on keto is salt. Salt is not the hazard to our health that it was previously thought to be, at least not for most people who have good kidney function.

[@spaceghost8995]

I'm glad there are diligent data nerds out there like Feldman! Citizen scientist!

[@motomatta1]

Excellent information 🙂👍

[@victordasilva5255]

I want a redo on the coffee...say it ain’t so man....😔

[@exit5620]

He said coffee was ok for most ppl.

[@TheRealBrook1968]

Tea or chai with cream now? I am going to test this myself, after one more cup o' joe.

[@naomiklahn9065]

He *did* say "a small number of people are coffee sensitive. 😊

[@realDaveFeldman]

Victor Da Silva Right - we only see this coffee sensitivity in a fraction of the total.

[@themindmuscle4141]

Take l carnitine with the coffee :p

[@KindergentlerMr.Softbelly]

100 years ago all medical research was done this way. Then big medical and government involved and it was a good thing for a little while. Now that line of research is corrupted for a high percentage of projects. This is a disservice. Your renaissance crown research is refreshing and needed.

[@TB1M1]

It was pretty reliable before 1980. The Universities were then bought out by industry.

[@250txc]

@@TB1M1 A cured patient is a lost customer...

[@TB1M1]

Yes, correct the corrupt research like the Norweigan Hunt study all say high cholesterol is good. It's complete lies funded by the statin industry, they even took 3 out of 4 data points from Framingham. www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/01.cir.92.6.1430

[@smartfirst]

Can you do a test with fruit instead of white bread and see the effect on triglycerides reading.

[@realDaveFeldman]

Maybe next year. Queue is pretty full right now

[@texastrustedoralsurgeon6830]

Dave, this is fascinating data, and presented immaculately. Now time to make your efforts explode into the popular culture. Let’s make your movie premier, “Super Size Me...Low Carb. Edition” Of course that’s a play on words because the ‘subject’ , an overweight person, eats drive-through fast-food everyday for a month, BUT...no fries, no bread, no soft drinks, no ice cream. They would eat meat, cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, onions, mustard, mayo, water, black coffee. The kicker would be that am overweight person can eat a modified fast food meal 3-4 times daily for 30 days and lose weight. No excessive allowed, and bloodwork would be done every 3 days x 10. So what’s do you think?

[@petermitchell6348]

Did the guy have sugar with his coffee?

[@realDaveFeldman]

No, I believe he kept it free of any additives.

[@brianmatic539]

Peter Mitchell no it was black :( cholesterolcode.com/guest-post-impact-of-coffee-on-triglycerides/

[@zambrocca]

don't know, but for sure a teaspoon of sugar in the coffee is not a problem

[@blkbbw8295]

I got the impression that the guy was low carbing/ketoing, based on the days with no coffee results. But maybe he was using sugar free sweeteners?

[@mistymarley9782]

Thank you for your experiments!

[@mp7925]

Not sure if helps anyone, but I had for years TG around 2, above recommended on carbs. They did not go up on keto, but they did not go lower either. BUT ... what I found and checked several times with lab, it looks my TG goes under 100 only when taking CARNITINE. It looks only that influences them. Note however I do not eat meat that have a lot of carnitine, I eat mainly cheese & eggs on keto. Maybe if I would eat meat would have good TG and no need for additional carnitine. As for HDL, it was for years around 1, going on keto did not look like to improve, however there was tremendous improvement with adding Omega 3 (i also do not eat fish) from fish oil to around 1.50, when I add MCT oil I have constantly HDL between 165 and 180.

[@kimdavis7812]

Is the HDL/LDL ratio different for women as opposed to men? What is the optimal ratio for women? Thank you

[@boomerman1100]

Very lean guy, mid 20s. I've suffered from a Patulous Eustachian tube much of my life, exasperated by stimulants, the weather and multiple t-tube surgeries, and am thus a Non-coffee drinker. I've done the dirty bulking, my goal to weigh 200 lbs and came close at 192, this was before understanding carbs vs fat, hence dirty bulk.(Force feeding) After watching this, I plan to injest small dose or decaf Coffee as a way to boost my metabolism, balanced with a high enough fat intake to prevent "drying out" I expect massive strength gains, and a body weight increase, despite the stimulant on my metabolism.

[@gimmeanicecream9228]

Dave, the slide at 13:25 seems to show a measurement of 228, but the graph showing approx. 288...?

[@realDaveFeldman]

Nice catch -- I'll have to revisit that spreadsheet when I get a chance. Thanks! (FWIW, the correlations were done against he data, so it's more likely the graph is wrong than the outcome calculation)

[@JensFLLife]

Please help, need advice on high altitude (approx 10k ft at base) and keto.. can’t seem to find much info on it. Other than traditional advice like “carb up” and “fat takes more oxygen for metabolism than carbs do, so,carb up”, etc. In the past I have been at high altitudes on a traditional (high carb diet) and still had some mild altitude sickness. On keto now for about 2 months. (Btw, I love at sea level, FL) Is it safe to continue keto when we travel to high altitude ? will it increase my risk of altitude sickness ? .

[@realDaveFeldman]

JensFLLife Can’t speak too much to altitude. But I’m skeptical carbs would be better than fat given respiratory exchange ratio.

[@godislove8740]

What do the locals eat? Can you outperform a comparable local person? In normal circumstances -don't kill your Yak.

[@JensFLLife]

Dave Feldman Thank you for you reply, this makes me feel better. Thank you for what you do!

[@polentusmax6100]

by now you are already adapted to fat burning, but i would be carreful in the first months of the adaptation.

[@reneronquillo753]

So how many hours should you fast before doing a blood test?

[@WebbyWunda]

I'm not an expert so... From what I've seen/read so far, about 14 hours seems to be a good period.

[@jerseyjim9092]

Then there's still the question of whether the rise in ldl from drinking coffee is a good thing or a bad thing.

[@karlint39]

Absolutely fantastic work. It seems like the whole industry should change based on this kind of data. Question. Perhaps you explain this later on in the video, but I was wondering if you were taking your HDL, LDL and Triglyceride levels after fasting? You said you eat 3 meals between 10AM and 8PM, so when did you take your blood levels, right before 10AM? That would mean fasting 14 hours, which in another video you said was what you considered appropriate.

[@christopherdockstader16]

I found honey helped me after 10/12 months of fatigue on Carnivore. 50 years old. Previous alcoholic for four years.

[@polentusmax6100]

try remove honey and eat fat with your meat, to see if works.

[@Vitatalks]

Countries that consume the highest levels of overall fat, saturated fat, and have raised cholesterol levels, have the lowest levels of cardiovascular disease and coronary heart disease.

[@tomg5405]

The bread experience could be biased as you ad process meat?you should do the experiment with different diet considered as healthy same low fat,vegan,vegan high fat....It would be also interesting to see the test on different people ,fir Exemple last study on glucose level showed different people reacted completely different to same food

[@astridjaye6224]

And different bread but I agree different meat with just 2 ingredients or not much more than that

[@ahmedajabi2654]

could the decaf thing possibly be a placebo? interesting

[@realDaveFeldman]

Kind of skeptical on that one. :)

[@astridjaye6224]

Curious as well. I don’t though if any coffee is fully decaf though. Super coffee sensitive (ugh) it messes with my blood sugar badly and my mood. Decaf still does it to a degree. Assuming it’s that it’s caffeine but maybe it’s more than that.

[@StriderGTS]

An actual scientist! We need more Dave Feldmans

[@kathleen.d.1231]

We need more bio engineers.

[@tchaiquentin]

Dave - where can us citizens purchase the cardioCheck..?

[@realDaveFeldman]

Mine is via PTS Diagnostics

[@tchaiquentin]

Dave Feldman Dave, seems LDL is calculated..? I guess the focus is Trig and HDL and their ratios...

[@nadiacobos6401]

Awesome video!

[@mowthpeece1]

Re: Coffee..we've known for a long time that coffee releases triglycerides into the blood...I read that in a Muscle & Fitness magazine in the 1980's. It's why we lose our appetite when drinking it. That and it increases adrenaline which also releases glucose into the blood. You're in fight or flight.... what I didn't realize is just how much. That's crazy. But it does indeed explain why I lose my appetite with a cup of coffee... And I too have the low tri, high HDL, high LDL "problem," and am a weight lifter. I just read, though, that high LDL is protective in older people...I also have longevity genes. I think there's a connection. LDL captures bacteria and viruses..it plays a role in immune function. Were you aware of that? My doctor has stopped caring about my high LDL because my CVD risk is something like 1.2% because of the ratios. But having been raised in the era of LDL is the devil, I am OBSESSED with getting it down, or being completely sure I'm in no danger of CVD. So I am endlessly researching. But honestly, I think I might be wasting my time. I don't have metabolic syndrome and just gave up sugar for good. So I think I'm ok. But these damn vegans are scaring the crap out of me. However, get this, I have been vegan...and both times by week 3-4 I start losing valuable memory. I kid you not. I get stupid...I forget the day and date, start getting clumsy and drop things... I think it's B vitamin deficiencies because I fix it with animal foods. Not everyone can be vegan. People need to know this.

[@jefferyjeffery1707]

Hi Dave....!! Don't get me wrong...I greatly appreciate your studies. Fantastic...BUT!!! The problem I have, is that it seems you are more enthralled with making graphs and charts of it.. Instead of acfually explaining what's going on in the body with the physiology, that is the cause of your results....that's what people truly need to know, to help people understand what2s going on, in their own bodies. I do medical research, tieing the pieces together to explain the overall picture, as to what goes on in the body. Like...you seemed to be amazed. That when you switched from fasting/keto...to eating white bread and processed meat. You said. As I recall... To find that your triglycerides dropped. Well YES!! That should naturally be expected...it shouldn't be a surprise at all. To explain... When your fasting, you run out of glucose/glucagon energy stores....SOOO!! Your body runs to the fat warehouse, and starts pulling fat, stored as triglycerides, back out of storage. To be broken back down into energy sources. Sooo....yes!! Your triglycerides will naturally go up, as your body starts using stored fsts, as when your fasting!!! Because...when you use up glucose and glucagon...ya gotta have something.....or you die!! And fat is no mystery....that's wjat it was put there for....ancient times. You eat all you can when food is plentiful...while extra is stored away for those rainy day, days!! BUT....when you came off of your fasting/keto....and stick the bread in your mouth, with that lovely disaster of processed meat!! Your going to get an insulin spike from the digested white bread carbos....sooo!! What happens... You no longer need those triglycerides taken from storage, to be broken down into a source of energy, to fuel the body...because it takes too long. WHEN...you've now got white bread carbs dissolved into glucose for fuel!! Instantaneous fuel...so triglycerides will then start dropping again, when you start eating white breads. I mean...YES!! Your experiments...tests and charts are AWESOME!! As they are great visuals...BUT!!! They are only a visual. Your not using the info, to explain the body processes, to explain the physiology of why your test results, correlates with body physiology. Or....when you do, and get a great exercise...why LDL drops...then comes back up!! Or....when you over exercise...or overly fast....that causes LDL, to spike back up!! I mean....the physiology is very easily explained. But...in your videos, you never proceed to explain the physiology science, of why this occurs!! It seems to me...your more interested in the charts...which are great. BUT...the body physiology needs to be explained. I say this constructively....because the world is so HUGELY confused on this whole matter, of cholestrol, carbs, triglycerides, when its not hard to explain. Or like the girl you spoke of at the end of your talk, who did an extreme hard core ultra low carb diet. And she lost about a pound of fat in each leg...of fat the medical community thought can only be reduced thru surgery!! Well.... No...!!! On that extreme of a diet...the survival mechanism of cortisol, will kick in, from the stress aspect. WHICH....its well known, will actually strip fats and proteins from the butt and thighs, to turn it back into glucose. To keep blood glucose levels relatively stable, in a given range!! AND...cortisol will actually force feed...so to speak....glucose into the cells!! IT'S not really a mystery, or shouldn't be, when you understand the physiology and structure of how the body supplies and transports energy, from using different types of energy sources. I just think, you're missing a great opportunity, to use your charts, to explain physiology, so people will learn about the processes, to get a better understanding, of their own body. Jeffery

[@AnotherEarthling666]

Jeffery Jeffery He widely did it in other presentations where he addressed the physiology behind those numbers. It is not practical to repeat the same concepts over and over on each public speech for simply time/topic reasons.

[@realDaveFeldman]

Thanks for your comments, Jeffery. For this talk in particular I put more time into the data, but in my talk from last year, I spent over half of it explaining the energy model through an analogy that many felt was very helpful, but many wanted me to bring more experiment data for the next talk. (And the year before that was half explanation, half data.) It should really be emphasized that we are only allowed 30 minutes for our presentations. Moreover, all these experiments are on the CholesterolCode blog where I can do deeper into depth without time constraints. And yes, much of the physiology you’re talking about is covered in the model here: cholesterolcode.com/model/ - although this is more for lay people. The actual paper should be forthcoming soon. :) On Gillian’s experiment with ultra low carb, we actually were tracking her cortisol levels, which remained normal. She also was getting regular dxa scans alongside her measurements and had no loss of lean mass (I think she actually gained some in her legs). Again, I appreciate your constructive feedback. Thank you so much!

[@moiragoldsmith7052]

Yes! I agree and also a 2 week experiment on myself would not convince me of any correlation noticed. I love his passion in trying to find answers though. It always evokes deeper thinking as to the why n how of it. Thanks.

[@jefferyjeffery1707]

@@AnotherEarthling666 Hi Dario!! Noo..Id have to disagree. Yes...you may have seen Dave mention this in other videos. BUT....there are 10s of million of people, looking to solutions, that haven't!! And they desperately need help. It would literally take 20 seconds. To give a brief statement, of the...WHY!! As its not the data that matters so much. By the WHY, it's going on and means!! And yeah...if you've seen tons of David's videos, as I have. It wouldn't matter so much. But data, still needs to be put into perspective, to confirm what's going on in the body.

[@jeffreyehlers1605]

Great explanation! Can you explain why ldl goes up with meat consumption? Is that because of the cholesterol in animal flesh? If so is animal flesh something to avoid?

[@sixthsense2939]

Seems to me that the trigs and LDL shown in the graphs (at about 28:00) are related to diet, while weight is merely a marker of where a particular diet has taken you.

[@250txc]

sixth, maybe.... The body is gonna burn the easiest form of fuel first, sugars, then after 15-20 minutes or till you exhaust your supply, the body turns to burning fat. In the case, like here, Daves body should be able to start this harder, fat-burning process, easier as he is a fat burner with his history of the keto diet. So, how long did Dave workout? I missed that part. Runners knew all this decades ago on switching over from sugar to fat-burning without any clues on this keto stuff... No way most of us thought your body would burn CARBS for an entire marathon... In fact, when I was a runner and living off CABS and as little fat as possible, I thought about 20 minutes into a run, that I could feel my body switch over into fat as a fuel source because I'd have a few ~minutes or so of a ~sluggish body feeling that would go away shortly ..

[@dcrock8978]

Lmao my wife’s docile horse turned into a bucking angry guy after the neighboring horse kept eating his HFLC special food, leaving him the cruddy high carb diet that the neighboring horse was supposed to eat. As soon as she switched him back he’s the sweetest guy.

[@2bbossfree]

I raised race horses. I never fed them corn. I never put molasses or other sugar in their feed. They had much less inflamation and I could take horses that didn't run for previous owners and win, without them turning into crazy animals.

[@akanecortich8197]

With regard to high Trig levels. It is it relevant if your blood sugar levels are good and thus your CRP low. Without the systemic inflammation elevated Trigs may not be an issue, as it requires this inflammation for the plaque to enter the artery walls. So the bottom line is that the Most important numbers are your blood sugar levels at all times. AND for older people I think that now Vitamin K2 MK7 is a Critical Must - this aids in the protection of elastin in artery walls. As you age your K2MK7 levels fall, thus 'aging' your artery walls and allowing plaque build up, regardless of blood sugars.

[@TB1M1]

Triglycerides are a secondary cause of artery closure. The primary cause is abnormal lipid ratios often coupled with hypertension.

[@mannyradzky493]

You are truly awesome. Thank you SIR!!

[@hardcorejab]

When are we gonna see high meat science

[@___xyz___]

Great talk

[@jenniferjes8524]

Great information

[@biodivers5294]

I’m mostly on keto now for six months and have seen my HDL rising and trichlycerides dropping. LDL and total cholesterol also rising. The ratio’s cholesterol/HDL and trichlycerides/HDL are 👌, so I think I’m doing fine!

[@LS-qu7yc]

Bless you!!! Thank you for your research!!!

[@skeeterburke]

I would encourage everybody to learn just a bit of organic chemistry (unless you already did, then maybe you can help teach the rest of us!). it pays to understand the names of the functional groups imo. for example, whats an ester, whats a ketone, etc. Professor Dave Explains, Tyler Dewitt, i would recommend those channels chemistry is fun! all those molecules and stuff, it's like playing with a Lego set

[@oswaldobermudez1904]

I been checking my blood glucose level for a few months, and I been checking with each test how my diet influence the result, and so far when doing keto my fasting blood glucose is 85 on average. Then I decided to go back to eating carbs for 3 weeks, and surprise my average is now 100, I feel more tired when I wake up, and i don't feel as energized as when I was doing keto. I would be trying carnivore next week and i would also be checking my systolic and diastolic blood pressure together with my blood glucose level.

[@LH-tc6so]

Should I fast LONGER than 12 hours before next test or LESS than 12 hours. My triglycerides were 87 HDL 83 but LDL elevated to 210 after a 25lb weight loss journey over the last 3 months. . Body fat decreased from 36% down to 21%. But dr wants me on statins because of LDL & TC

[@cavendish009]

I was wondering how blood group affects what we eat ? I have recently switched to a much more carnivorous diet (sort of Keto) and I am Blood group O. It seems to agree with me very well but maybe if you are a different blood group then this diet may not be so good ??

[@1975Angelgirl]

I am in carnivore groups with thousands of members, this question gets asked often. The consensus is that blood type has nothing to do with how people feel on carnivore. Many A's including myself are thriving, who according to the blood type diet should be mostly vegetarian. His diet has been debunked and his ideas about how the different blood types originated is not at all correct.

[@entropy0917]

Wonder what happens with particle counts when the basic numbers change drastically over a very short time? Seems that would be very interesting to know. Great video!

[@DanielTrevorOnline]

As a subscriber, I love your research, but I must have missed this somewhere. What is "N of One" or "N=1" mean? Thanks so much for your work!

[@justanothergigi]

N is the number of participants in a trial. Therefore those experimenting using just themselves are N=1. (someone can correct me if I am wrong. :)

[@hillsofwi]

N is number of people in the experiment.

[@vamvra5498]

Normally n=1 means no result.

[@250txc]

@@vamvra5498 Please explain that math?

[@dchiffy]

As always, brilliant

[@jayfinn6698]

Triple bypass march 2018. Try too get better blood markers than me now,no wheat,grains ,rice carbs period.I'm 55 and out lift kid's at the gym.

[@slingshoter8783]

I haven't seen a picture of any thing he drank. Drinks can make a big difference. I would like to see a test from Bergamonte® citrus extract

[@olfssen]

what is your blood pressure marker?

[@qilinwang5889]

This video really blows my mind.

[@NonaK-mz8oy]

brilliant! thank you, Dave!

[@watcherworld5873]

I am here watching this video because my LDL numbers just shot up. After watching this video I think it was due to me going close to a carnivore diet a few days before the blood draw. My Triglycerides was 60, my Total HDL-C Direct was 85, and my LDL Cholesterol was 287. Since my triglycerides/HDL was only 0.7, I think I am going to resists any coercion to ingest statins.

[@SandyCheeks1896]

So it’s time to cut coffee. This is going to be hard. I’ve never had a chemical addiction to anything except coffee.

[@KR-jg7gc]

And ?

[@marlenegold280]

It would have been interesting to see the same effect in Postmenopausal women of 60, who have Hypothyroidism, being treated with T4 or properly dosed T3.