Dave Grohl & Krist Novoselic On The 30th Anniversary Of "In Utero" | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

Dave Grohl discusses how his kids' relationship with Nirvana has shaped his perception of the band's legacy.
Listen to "Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend" @ listen.teamcoco.com/vYURvsMY
Subscribe to watch more Team Coco videos / @teamcoco
Listen to the Full Podcast link.chtbl.com/conan
FOLLOW TEAM COCO PODCASTS ON SOCIAL
Conan O’Brien on Twitter / conanobrien
Team Coco Podcasts on Instagram / teamcocopodcasts
FOLLOW TEAM COCO ON SOCIAL
Team Coco on Facebook / teamcoco
Team Coco on Twitter / teamcoco
Team Coco on Instagram / teamcoco
ABOUT CONAN O’BRIEN NEEDS A FRIEND
Deeper, unboundedly playful, and free from FCC regulations, Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend is a weekly opportunity for Conan to hang out with the people he enjoys most and perhaps find some real friendship along the way. Watch highlights of Conan, Sona Movsesian and Matt Gourley chatting with celebrities and meeting fans, along with special segments like “Review the Reviewers” and “Big Dick History.”
ABOUT TEAM COCO
Team Coco is the KZbin home for all things Conan O’Brien and the Team Coco Podcast Network. Team Coco features over 25 years of comedy sketches, celebrity interviews and stand-up comedy sets from CONAN on TBS and Late Night with Conan O’Brien, as well as exclusive videos from podcasts like Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend,
Literally! with Rob Lowe, Why Won’t You Date Me? with Nicole Byer, The Three Questions with Andy Richter, May I Elaborate? with JB Smoove and Scam Goddess with Laci Mosley.
Team Coco
/ teamcoco

[@Goatchild90]

I'm 33 and I'm still in my Nirvana phase

[@LateNightOverdose]

I’m 42 and with you! I have clear memories of hearing smalls like teen spirit, and clearer memories discovering bleach.

[@andyferne3877]

I'm same,

[@refri]

Same age, same phase

[@jaimelynnlynn4056]

41 here, same

[@nickpaz9113]

It never wears off. I’m 40 and still going thru it

[@suemiller2522]

When Dave reminded me that 1993 was 30 years ago, I died a little inside. In my brain, the 90s were always 10 years ago. Always.

[@beachblvdband]

100%!

[@azrealhernandez9636]

RIP Steve Albini🙏

[@agagoogoo]

At 0:24 it is written that Krist Novoselic was the guitarist of Nirvana. Think I can hear bassists all over the world doing triple backflips.

[@Budabaii]

as a bassist. A bass is still a guitar.

[@AcidWords1]

@@Budabaii Yes, but you don't call the bassist the guitarist. You call him the bassist. It's not a big deal, but it is still wrong.

[@TX_AC5G]

As a bassist who covered "Teen Spirit" at my very 1st gig back in '92, I just broke my back not landing that triple back flip.

[@go-nogo1475]

As a Bassist, it is funny when those who primarily play guitar fall into "I play rhythm" & "I play lead" But even though we're in the "rhythm section," we still consider the bass a "lead instrument" lol! (No one else agrees with us!)

[@annegabmbock6030]

@@AcidWords1 You can call someone who plays the bass a bassist or a guitarist, both are correct to say, it’s not a big deal.

[@Tomnedreb]

Kurt's music will never grow old. It's just something universal in the passion and the way he made his songs and his lyrics that speak to generation after generation. And man I love that sound too. Pure genius.

[@bogarde2619]

I've seen you in dozens of Nirvana video's comment sections from many different channels. I even used to watch your covers of their songs. You are truly a diehard Nirvana fan

[@harrypascoe5789]

@@bogarde2619I know I see this guy everywhere too, always thought his pfp was Dave Grohl for some reason

[@tasios.kemble9988]

You are a legend! Used to watch your covers when I was 12 years old because of how accurate they were and how good they sounded. Glad to still see you here haha.

[@FacheChanteDeux]

It's a cross between honesty, depth and eloquence. Plus people always used real instruments which brought more depth to the music. Unfortunately we don't see those qualities in today's music. There are exceptions here and there, but it is not the norm.

[@Tomnedreb]

@@FacheChanteDeux Hear, hear

[@Anson120]

Hats off to Conan for recognizing this amazing album. Nirvana indeed changed my life.

[@Christopher-md7tf]

"All Apologies" is one of the best album closers ever.

[@chadgrov]

Kinda. Sounds too much like a suicide note in retrospect now

[@mateostenberg]

@@chadgrov if there's anything profound to take away from this whole episode, it's to not view Kurt's music in that way. No one knew, Kurt didn't even know. This is how suicide works. Kurt was probably in a similar place emotionally for a long time leading up to his death, which is to say when someone knows they are going to kill themselves, it can happen any time and for any reason. Read into it all you want, but I think it's strange to argue whether or not it's good just because of your own personal obstacles.

[@chadgrov]

@@mateostenberg he talked about it for years. he said he wanted to become a famous rock star and kill himself. People that attempt suicide and complete it tend to talk about it more than people who don’t. The main thing I really thought about Kurt was that he very likely had severe bi-polar disorder. When he was manic he became almost giddy and child like with the right interviewer and others he was miserable. Heroin compounded it. that’s all.

[@JaysonBucy]

You can tell Krist and Dave that my 16 year old daughter is in love with their 30 year old music. It meant a lot for me and it means a lot to her.

[@FacheChanteDeux]

She has good taste! Keep playing her the good stuff.

[@kaydee9358]

My 14 year old grandson is a multi-instrumentalist, plays in a band, and plays Nirvana songs frequently. He is so enamored with the sound and the legacy of Nirvana. He also loves Dave Grohl's work with Foo Fighters. His interest passed on to me and I, who didn't listen to Nirvana in the 90's, now listen to them frequently. They've withstood the test of time and their appeal spans generations, as Dave was talking about with his daughter.

[@martynchapman9660]

I am now 46. I just couldnt listen to Nirvana for decades after Kurt passed. My eldest Son is is just about to turn 16 and has been listening to Nirvana for the past few years. I found it hard to listen to at first, with all of those memories from that time. But things really have come full circle. I really do miss you guys. I never got to see you live and I regret that. I was hoping to see you play in 94. But it was not to be. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the music!!! its been emotional! Be safe. Cheers!

[@jimjiminy5836]

I see quite a few kids that age that dress just like my friends and I back in those days. It makes me really happy to see.

[@Seth______]

I fell in love with Nirvana late 2019 when I was having an existential crisis and their music held my hand and calmed me down in a deep emotional way. I was going to college for a performance major in saxophone but I was so burnt out and lost. I didn't feel like I fit in, I had different goals and ideas. I didn't understand why I needed to take math class to play an instrument. I didn't want to play jazz or the traditional music that saxophone is known for. I realized I wanted to play rock music with the sax. So fast forward to now and I'm playing in a band in Minneapolis and having a blast playing Punk, Midwest emo, Ska, Nu metal, Post grunge. Forever grateful for Nirvana!

[@30MinToNewOrleans]

I’ve listened to Nirvana every day for 20 years still not sick of it never will be

[@mentiramentira]

hell yeah

[@Sheri7029]

Did anyone else catch the moment where Krist said he felt bad about something and Dave shut him up fast?

[@kelb6073]

👀

[@rikkifknrobin]

I think you're looking too deep into it. He was finishing his thought and pointed at Steve. Didn't shut Krist up at all

[@Sharibaby80]

When my teenage niece walked in with a Nirvana shirt, I think I shared a proud tear that life really does come full circle. Dave is so right about hearing a song and remembering exactly the setting of what I was doing, feeling, details. These musicians have given the world so much.

[@maddymud]

I was at that show - it was hosted by Four Non Blonde lady - Linda Perry. I paid $250 to be in the balcony of the Pallidum. My atty pal snuck in for free and was on the floor. He was in a suit from a meeting, I think he borrowed a clipboard and walked straight in. I paid $50 a song for the five song NearVana set. Beck also fronted and so did St Vincent. The level of joy to get to hear those songs live was so fantastic. Then, poor Cheap Trick had to follow - and they too were fantastic - full voice that could still hit all the notes, greatest hits. Couldn’t believe how good they were. After the show was over the Pandemic hit.

[@redbluegaming9340]

Who's here after Steve Albini passed away🥀 Rest in peace legend

[@SP-po1sd]

I love each episode of this podcast, especially when it's all about music.

[@noelyeo]

yeah it's so rare

[@caprise-music6722]

LOVE what Novoselic says in the beginning, about putting on the record, like you’re invited to come listen to Nirvana in Rome or LA. One of the things I’ve always wanted is more concerts from 1993-94. And this is brilliant. They were so so very good!

[@jeremiaherickson2068]

I feel old. I bought the album on release day. I cant imagine how Dave and Krist feel.

[@primeryai]

Same here

[@aisle_of_view]

Same. Release day 1993. Played in the car, much more an ear bend than Nevermind.

[@AndyAcker]

Same. Waited in line for a midnight release. It's my favorite Nirvana record.

[@BIGT537]

Me too, from Asda in Southampton. Can remember the tape on my Walkman and how I felt about it.

[@rickb.341]

Kurt should be there with them..and enjoying this moment .. I will never stop saying that.. RIP

[@johngurnhill8743]

Love to seen a older kurt

[@sianspherica]

Thank You Team Coco for uploading nearly 50 minutes of this incredible podcast episode. I listened to the whole thing but having this much video of the episode is so appreciated.

[@normabernal6676]

Im 45, im a huge fan , my kids love Nirvana, I travel to Seattle from San Francisco to bring flowers for Kurt outside hus house (green house) Ive been on Aberdeen just to visit his childhood home where he grew up, I visited the under bridge where he used to sit and weite songs ❤ I love Kurt, I love Nirvana, I took a picture with Krist Novoselic and he smiled very cute on the picture.....I wish I could meet Dave too God Bless You Guys 🙏❤️

[@user-og1rv6sr8e]

I hope these wonderful dudes understand that for gen x they were a breath of fresh air. Everything was so stylized and overproduced with glitter and hairspray and spandex. They just came along and said here's who gen x is. We aren't flashy and shiny, we're jaded, sarcastic and we knew we were being told a lot of bs. ❤

[@chadgrov]

They were so badass even Pantera had to switch course. Even they were spandex dorks until CFH came out. and I’m sure the pre Nevermind grunge style was already started to come about. Nirvana changed so much about popular music in the early 90’s

[@reqeffect]

Bit presumptuous speaking for an entire generation..... Maybe it was spandex where you lived? Sorry for you. Record stores existed and we used to buy Butthole Surfers, Minor Threat, Electro Hippies, Millions Of Dead Cops, etc. way before Grunge. Tad, Mudhoney, Melvins,, God Bullies, Jesus Lizard etc. we're from the same scene as Nirvana, and they were way bigger than Nirvana before Nevermind.

[@somenothing7914]

yeah, like reqeffect said, thats just punk dude. not particularly gen x or even representative of before or after. that’s who they were & had the courage to be, but they knew that they were tight, & i think they knew people would recognize that. & that was because they knew, that the youth/people are tight. & thank god they did get big. RIP kurt cobain

[@konradk1066]

I am absolutely LOVING this series, and these in depth conversations with Coco’s great questions that clearly show he is a true admirer of Nirvana. But is anyone else a little miffed when Krist’s title card says “guitarist?” He was the ace of Nirvana’s Bass. Please update it to Bassist😢

[@lespaul1142]

Well, it´s a Bass Guitar..so, it's not completely wrong.

[@Goatchild90]

In Utero = Classic album

[@ryangood25]

I prefer it to Nevermind, personally

[@mmcwill1]

Conan, thanks for this. As I listen to these guys, I'm transported back to the Nirvana days, and I feel like I'm in my late 20s again. This is a time machine! Going through a Nirvana phase when they were here on this planet was one of my greatest joys...

[@uncleflansy5621]

The craziest part of the 'Heart shaped box' video with Dave's daughter Violet singing is the fact that Beck is randomly there playing guitar.

[@Uninterested69420]

Lol what💀💀😭

[@WalnutSpice]

What an incredible interview man, Conan is just straight up the best to do Late night and then have an even better career after

[@davidr1620]

In Utero was the first record I ever bought with my own money. I first heard Nirvana when I was nine years old -- I think no less than a couple months before Kurt died. I didn't know the names of anyone in the band. I barely even knew what a band actually is. I didn't know what was "cool." I wasn't a part of any movement. I was just a child. But my life changed when I heard it. The sound was glorious. It wasn't a trend for me. The friend who showed them to me was the only person I knew at the time that even talked about Nirvana. It was just one of those special things where the quality was undeniable. As much as I loved Nevermind -- oh boy, what an understatement -- I'll never forget holding up In Utero and Nevermind side-by-side, trying to decide what was going to be my first record. I ended up choosing In Utero because, man, the sound of that guitar and the band thrashing away was like an eargasm. My friend showed me Very Ape and Milk It, and I couldn't stop thinking about what I had just heard.

[@notanotherjamesmurphy5574]

it’s funny how 1993 was a huge year for all 4 of these people. And extremely challenging

[@richardharris3818]

Graduated 92 and so happy that i experienced nirvana and the grundge era. Definitely lightning in a bottle moment in music, the nostalgia i feel from this interview is just magical

[@roknrolbilly]

GREAT TO SEE YOU GUYS TOGETHER.....🎼🎵🎶 thanks for the memories and music.....

[@jazminratzlaff5357]

Happy 30th anniversary of In Utero! Love each part of this episode on Conan Needs A Friend Podcast.

[@fabygoo]

I love Dave so much. These videos have been wonderful to watch!

[@sabbracadabra8367]

He sucks so much

[@rogerironhide4220]

Thank you Kurt, Krist, & Dave❤ for an awesome album & music that you guys created for the world. I've been there all along & still here at 40. It's really good to see you 2 Dave & Krist😊❤. Conan thanks to you for remembering & reaching out to these great guys. I love Nirvana. Really is a great thing what took place here.

[@tleeg74]

Great to see Dave and Krist together. My one regret is passing on a Nirvana show decades ago. I wish I would have went to it. I'm a huge Nirvana and F.F. fan.

[@athenagirl2183]

I’m 40 and I’m still in my Nirvana phase and my 17 year old musician son is full blown in his Nirvana phase. It’s a thing. It will never go away.

[@wakasmama]

My 16 year old has been going through his Nirvana phase since in utero (see what I did there) . Those of us who got to experience Nirvana as it was happening was such a special experience. And to be able to see new generations experience it is awesome.

[@collectYaNeck]

i was 10-14 when nirvana's music was put forth into the world being in the Pacific Northwest. It was an amazing soundtrack to those pivotal years and i always felt kindrid connections to them and other northwest bands by growing up the same environments where it rains half the year and there is real poverty. I cant thank these guys enough. powerful

[@josecanales2978]

I’ll have to agree with Dave. It’s the feelings the music evokes that keeps it timeless

[@djmoonchild01]

I remember the Napster/kazza days, scouring for all the then unreleased demos n home recordings, they had become my favorite band right before he died with in utero, unplugged and the new years eve mtv show that I recorded live on VHS and played over and over again..they were peaking for real and then it was over..I was destroyed but never stopped listening or seeking unheard recordings 🤘🤘🙌🙌👍👍

[@xliquidflames]

I remember things about where I was and who I was every time I listen to _In Utero,_ also. I remember who I was hanging out with when I first heard the album, what I was doing, things I haven't thought about in years. It may not be to the same degree that it is for the artists but the fans have the same experience, I think. I remember exactly where I was and who I was with the very first time I discovered Metallica and listened to the black album for the first time. The same is true for Nevermind and In Utero and Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness and Korn's self-titled album and on and on. It has a name, that feeling. The term has been completely corrupted and commercialized these days but that's nostalgia. That's true nostalgia.

[@karineribeiroribeiro7373]

PodCasts of Team Coco is Excellent!👍❤👏👏👏👏

[@davidrodriguez5721]

Great video series! Keep it up.

[@fukutoob9065]

I’m 43 now I bought this album in 93 on cassette tape I never really liked nevermind it’s always been in utero for me from the first time I heard the drums at the start of scentless apprentice. The album is so much more than a album to me it’s my youth, it’s what I have compared every album to since and there was only 1 that ever came close and that was the foo fighters first album. In utero is the greatest album of all time! Can’t believe it’s been 30 years! God I’m old!

[@TrollingForTrouserTrout]

Dave is so right I found nirvana at 12 and never turned back

[@fictionfisher7869]

My 13 year old daughter is listening to Nirvana now all of the time. Love it!

[@golafs]

realized I was also 14 in 1991 when I first heard nirvana. Still love them

[@silentgnome]

Dave said something true, there's an age when we all go through a "Nirvana phase". I had it when I was 13 and now I'm 43 and I still love Nirvana's music. In fact, as I've grown into adulthood I've learned to better recognize the things Kurt was trying to communicate with his lyrics.

[@redeyedbuggers]

I’m 37 & been a massive Nirvana fan since I was about 13. Now I have a 13 year old son & he just discovered Nirvana & has become a big fan of them. Makes me proud!

[@krisfrederick5001]

Kurt made every record he wanted to. Weather changes moods. Dirty and dark, pretty and poppy but punk and heavy. Then In Utero. Aggressive poetics with moments of patients and transition to peace

[@JohnDoukasPhotography]

It's fun hearing them tell these stories. I've been a lifelong Nirvana fan since hearing Nevermind when it was released, to collecting tons of bootlegs and everything. However, I generally skip listening to In Utero and most live shows during it's tour. I don't skip it because dislike any of it (I love it all), but because it reminds me that a few months later it would all be over in the most tragic way. But, hearing these stories gives more glimpses into the real story that it wasn't all doom and gloom...

[@92GreenMachine]

I'm 30 now and have my first little one on the way... I'm a bit conflicted if i should surround with the music I fell in love with or let him find it on his own. The music is strong enough that each generation will discover it like some fossilized gem ......and mine it for all its worth.

[@A_random_NPC]

powerful words from Dave

[@hranko3143]

I had no clue that Nirvanas Bassist is now a pastry chef.

[@kingman2332]

I need to see that video.

[@vivianaaavou]

Love them

[@ST-xg3gy]

Love these people!

[@tuneandsmash9346]

Please upload the rest of the interview! Where they talk about Milk it, In Utero sounding sweet vs. menacing etc

[@jdd1979]

I remember exactly where I was when I heard the news about Kurt. Hard to believe it’s been so long.

[@rangerwhite5165]

I can remember buying Nevermind in 91. It's a lifetime ago. I don't think anyone now can realise how big they were at the time, or how influential the album was. Amazing.

[@CorinneWoods]

My sons 11 and he loves nirvana so Dave is totally right when he says we all go thru a nirvana phase.

[@indo604]

Covered heart shop box a few times great song he should be proud she picked that one

[@vampirewilde]

The title should be "Dave Grohl on the 30th Anniversary of 'In Utero'"

[@johannludwigwolfgang2889]

😂

[@forestsunset9617]

And he is dismissive to Krist when he is talking, this guy has a big ego for sure.

[@bobbylostandfound]

Amazing what he says about the nirvana phase. I was 11-14 the first time around

[@techn1kal1ty]

38 years old and wearing my Nirvana shirt under my collared shirt at work.

[@adriantrusca1245]

Loser.

[@khairulbasirrudin732]

Nice..My 11 year old got through her Britney phase..Now we'll see if ahe can listen to Nirvana 🤘🏻 I agree I got into it because if the feeling that it gave too..God Bless you guys! Thank you for saving my childhood!

[@kirkwatson1442]

One of the best albums...ever❤

[@starmelter-band]

It wounds me how adorable Chris is.

[@cosmorecordz]

Funny Dave would say this because my son is 13 and yes he listens to Nirvana a lot. 🤘

[@marcelinomedina3232]

Great interview! I mean no harm but I wish that Krist talked a bit more! No offense to Dave or Steve. I just like to hear Krist because he was there since day one!

[@thebasementband8366]

I love music

[@madhman12]

Is there a way to watch the whole podcast in video?

[@gregdahlen4375]

krist and dave both have distinctive speaking voices. also they both wear some clothes that reference the pacific northwest, dave with the flannel shirt, krist with the logging boots

[@cal3blipa]

Every town in every state there’s a nirvana head I’m not talking about teen spirit but I’m sure that kid goes deep into the fecal matter days. ❤

[@wallacelovecraft8942]

Nice talk.

[@hayeonkim7838]

❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@williamgregory1848]

Conan really needs to become a music journalist because his knowledge and love of music is evident throughout this interview.

[@generaljellyroll8737]

There is a moving company in Portland called Annie-Hual and they should use only heart shaped boxes.

[@ryanegger4425]

is there a way to watch the entire interview

[@vooptr]

The first band I fell in love with. Love these guys.

[@davem6583]

Might as well have just interviewed Dave.. he doesn’t let anyone else talk..

[@samueljones9812]

Also, why does Krist keep being described as the guitarist for Nirvana? He was the bassist

[@traviswilliams4548]

Yeah, bass GUITARIST

[@bogarde2619]

​@@traviswilliams4548guitarist usually implies regular guitar. also why is Pat not there?

[@konradk1066]

For real. I love this series, but that part keeps irking me. Like when someone mispronounces a word really badly

[@patreekotime4578]

​@@bogarde2619 Pat toured but wasnt part of the recording. Thats why Steve Albini is here. Pat is discussed.

[@bogarde2619]

@@patreekotime4578 I know but he was still a part of Nirvana was there for the In Utero shows, feels like he should've been there

[@jakedill2468]

Rest in peace Steve !

Lol at the final bit about selling a lot of T-shirts. The Nirvana logo is just a clothing brand these days to a lot of kids and I remember when I was through my mandatory teenage Nirvana phase around 2000-2002, it was sooooo freaking hard to find a simple smiley face nirvana shirt. Every kid my age who liked rock was either into nu metal, Blink 182 clones or Strokes clones.

[@NiueanHoney]

Will this be released in full??

[@TheSickNeeds]

I bet money that they will once the views drop off on all the parts.

[@Budabaii]

1:27 what a satisfying snap.

[@thegeekguy3608]

RIP Steve

[@friezas_]

Gold stuff ✍️🤤🫶🏻

[@aghamom]

where can we watch the whole episode?

[@chosen_remnant]

Where's is this full interview in it's entirety? SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!

[@spiffydigs]

I didn't like Nirvana as a teen in the 90's only because I love vocals more than any instrument. I didn't think Kurt was that great of a singer. It wasn't until MTV unplugged came out that myself and I bet MILLIONS of others became fans. When you slowed the music down, Kurt was a master vocalist! Only then I was able to go back and fall in love with almost every single Nirvana album. Seriously, I even bought that MTV unplugged album for my mother. It's such a shame that it was so late in Kurt's career, I didn't get a chance to truly appreciate his art until after he was gone.

[@dwaynekoblitz6032]

56, still in my phase as well.

[@golafs]

where to watch the full episode?

[@thebasementband8366]

On an I’m sorry. You met hunter. My hero

[@paulaopp]

Krist Novoselic, guitarist of Nirvana 👀

[@davgrol]

4:54 😂

[@grownmanrecordnight]

That last statement by Dave really...wow. I'm gunna need a minute.

[@paramount243]

today!

[@fladmus]

I never "got" Nirvana's music just thought it was okay. I really REALLY like these guys though.

[@MrJlc93]

Every kid goes through a Nirvana phase, I bloody hope that's true ❤️