The NEW Surface Pro + Laptop - First Impressions

[@brianbuckley5204]

Dave PLEASE test the sleep state behaviors. The most infuriating thing about current Windows laptops is the awful sleep states where it force quits all your apps (yes sleep, not hibernate), and then takes 2 minutes to get fully up and running past all the startup processes even on high end machines. Forget battery life and efficiency, I just want a laptop that's ready to go when I open it.

[@TabalugaDragon]

my experience is the opposite. On my laptop, current Windows standby is super power-hungry, so much so that the fans keep spinning, whereas on all my previous laptops it consumed little to no power in sleep mode. "It evolves, but backwards" meme is perfect for this.

[@usipho]

​@@TabalugaDragon mine won't even shut down. If I force it to do so it'll spend up to 10mins booting. So speeding is the only option (and it still consumes around 10% overnight)

[@marcgtsr]

This is a huge problem with windows, I even considered buying apple, that's how bad it is.

[@userre85]

You have to fiddle with your power settings in control panel. It allows you to set the maximum capacity at which your CPU/SSD/Fans can run on battery and while plugged in.

[@Ronniezim]

This really is key. All of my windows machines die if I just close the lid and toss in a bag for a few days. My M3 max on the other hand…hadn’t touched in days and battery is essentially exactly where it was last I used it

[@4RILDIGITAL]

Keeping my fingers crossed for good emulation performance, it's time we got efficient, powerful chips at affordable rates.

[@Ailidan]

It's absolutely disgusting how Dave subliminally advertises Lenovo.

[@wile123456]

Seeing its microsoft, and how windows have sucked on every level on surface devices, I doubt it. They are completly incompetent at vertical integration

[@MrGamelover23]

​@@wile123456It's not that they are incompetent at vertical integration, it's that they can't do vertical integration because they don't control the hardware.

[@EikottXD]

​@@Ailidanhe literally offered another option that had better specs.

[@Ailidan]

@@EikottXD yeah asians for asians

[@avocadopictures9706]

Hopefully this is the beginning of quieter Windows laptops that don't blast fans unless they're performing actually heavy tasks.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

oh it totally is once software catches up which is really the hard part + the fact of windows itself sucks so bad

[@jairozamora608]

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl No joke, windows 11 being so bad it made me switch to linux and MacOS for my daily driver

[@elementneon]

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl software will catch up about a year or 2 after the hardware is release, and new hardware has arrived, which the software wont support.

[@estiennetaylor1260]

@@jairozamora608 Lol never happened to me.

[@josephgood2704]

Most processors in the last several generations have no problem with this. 20 chrome tabs, casting an extended 4k screen playing netflix, youtube on laptop screen, and transferred a 120GB folder at the same time with practically no noise on the last couple generations of U processors or HS processors.. No actually heavy tasks. But also no blasting of fans at all.

[@joseph2024]

I left windows for the MacBook Air M2, I use that laptop for 2-3 days before charging, have had it since its release, and love it. If widows laptops had done this earlier I’d probably still be with them. Glad to see them finally making a change.

[@definingslawek4731]

How do you get 3 days out of it? Do you only use it for like 1-2 hours per day? Like watch a bit of youtube, write a few emails or something, do some shopping? I have an m3 max mbp and charge it 3 times a day but obviously I'm using a power hungry workflow.

[@joseph2024]

@@definingslawek4731 my workloads aren’t heavy, it’s mostly web, zooms, cloud based software and I’m on it 3-4 hours a day for work. Maybe an hour or 2 for non work.

[@slimerewoods5766]

@@definingslawek4731 If he only uses it lightly for 4-5 hours a day you can definitely get 2-3 days out of it

[@retroelectrical]

@@definingslawek4731 exactly. Is Joe using the M2 to do light typing? I've never heard of getting three full days of real work on any laptop ever.

[@frogpetavideo3940]

@@retroelectrical i have an m2 air and im a full time highschool student in a school that exclusively does digital work. I use my laptop 5-8 hours a day and charge it once every 2-4 days. i never get below 20 percent EVER

[@bearcatpanda]

I think the biggest challenge for these new Snapdragon X laptops will be the emulation of x86 apps. If Qualcomm can get the emulation to work well, then these laptops could be a game-changer for Windows on ARM.

[@MathewPanicker1010]

Wouldn't emulation be an os-side i.e. Microsoft's problem?

[@OnlyCitrus]

Windows Emulation is indeed on par and sometimes faster than Apple as tested by Gary. I hope it all goes well.

[@bradhaines3142]

problem is a lot of that is more of a question of windows than arm, but either can screw it up

[@strawbaria]

Emulation is already not too difficult, more difficult would be handling of all the legacy drivers and whatnot which need more than a "simple translation layer".

[@HouseOfFunQM]

Confirmed that the x86 (and x86_64) applications can use ALL cores on this SoC. M1 emulation was good, but could only use two performance cores at once. This potentially makes this much better, however Apple Rosetta2 also transposed the Intel instructions to Armv8 at install time, which gave them a massive performance advantage immediately.

[@GAMERGEBITER]

1:01 This would look 100x better if the upper bezel and the side bezels would be the same width

[@yannpoco]

Agreed

[@flamingrage100]

Camera and mic on top

[@amirtorhan2762]

Would probably need some type of notch for that

[@iamlorex4786]

yeah but, than we ll have a black are where camera is located. Windows isnt ready forthat

[@yannpoco]

@@flamingrage100 Dell’s top bezel is thinner than Surface side bezels.

[@Shin_Kil]

My first KZbin subscription was to Dave2D around 8 years ago, and I am more amazed at how he hasn't aged at all since I first started watching his videos.

[@dandansfu]

Asian gene + men usually age better + fame + wealth + taking care of ur self

[@turolretar]

+ L + ratio

[@AltraHapi]

​@dandansfu how does fame not make you age?

[@Scruffed]

​@@AltraHapiHe clearly didn't see Macaulay Culkin.

[@dandansfu]

@@AltraHapi unless you act like crazy or too political…etc Usually famous ppl get better treatment when they get recognized Even if , say Beyoncé , didn’t even try to let ppl know who she is and walked into a restaurant by herself and ppl recognized her , u think she will get same treatment as us? Even if she didn’t request it Unless the owner hates her In their day to day life they see ppl smiling , being nice and happy to see them , feel honoured to see them and work with them And they constantly get confidence boost comments. Just look at the comments. Always mostly positive comments. And well deserved as he put up amazing , good quality videos But for us normal ppl , how often we get praise even if we do an excellent job. Again you may have haters , you may be tired time to time of being recognized. For sure fame does can have some impact too but for the most part it’s good This combine with wealth, connection ..etc Stress and positivity ( lack of rejection , always being treated warmly ..etc) All help with delayed aging

[@harbirsingh7266]

If these ARM chips can emulate x86 as good as they say, the Microsoft Surface would become a better product than the iPad Pro since it'll actually run on a capable desktop OS.

[@karenwang313]

They would actually have to make a decent pen to even think about competing with the iPad Pro. The only people who buy one are apple sheep or people who use the tablet for doing work.

[@alexanderzhulin3528]

Keyboard and pen for $450 is definitely not cheaper than before. Insane price for a keyboard.

[@insainllama]

Can probably thank Apple for that.

[@Yzyenthusiast]

@@insainllamawhat do you mean thank Apple? Does Apple control Microsoft pricing??

[@shinobusuicide]

@@Yzyenthusiastyup, no corporation is our friend. Once Microsoft saw apple could get away with these prices they upped them too

[@LuisCruz-ns3bt]

@@Yzyenthusiastinfluence is the better word

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

a good Keyboard is always easily the most expensive part of a laptop

[@Entertainment-]

0:57 The Surface Laptop Studio from 2 years ago had rounded corners

[@samblack3446]

I use that model daily and the rounded corners in combination with the 3:2 aspect ratio is somehow "easy on the eyes" (if that makes sense). I like it.

[@anh49]

Also macbooks haven't had rounded screen corners for "over a decade". They only did that starting with notched macbooks

[@estiennetaylor1260]

@@samblack3446 I'll take 3:2 any day.

[@sharonb.9128]

@@anh49the 2014 MacBook Air is a decade

[@jonevansauthor]

Yes and it's absolutely disgusting to cut off perfectly good screen for no reason. No-one wants this and it's not a selling point, just like notches so your phone can be 2mm shorter aren't.

[@MrCarzo]

Watching Intel slide into irrelevance because they havent innovated in a decade has been such a wild ride.

[@Dipankar89]

AMD as well my friend😔 ARM is the way to go I'm so happy x86 is finally dead

[@shazidulislam9286]

@@Dipankar89 x86 won't be dead for desktops.

[@Dipankar89]

@@shazidulislam9286 it should be, it's a really old architecture tbh

[@tinselnathan]

That’s true! I think The snapdragon is the better choice. Ngl

[@EikottXD]

​@@Dipankar89try gaming on arm...

[@Yusuf-Licht]

Hey Dave, are you sure that the Surface Laptops gets also OLED Screens? I couldn't yet find that info anywere. Thanks for the great vid as always!

[@shadmeister9471]

Same question

[@mattstead2138]

Pro has OLED, laptop is Quad HD, not OLED

[@mop0014]

just make the rounded corners a software feature, the oled has good enough black levels to hide them

[@pratyakshsinha6292]

it also compliments the windows 11 apps which have rounded corners.

[@Entertainment-]

You would be surprised how many “rounded” screens are just rectangular screens with the pixels disabled and a black rounded border painted inbetween the glass and the screen layer.

[@Optimistas777]

@@Entertainment-except iphones

[@iTzNicholas]

Round corners is super innovative

[@zakomentare-xt4vk]

@@iTzNicholaslol

[@myownhut]

Dave u look healthy now appreciate ur hard work mate I have been following you since launch. All the best for Al your future endeavors 👍

[@rafiqmuhamad8251]

Surface as a premium laptop still giving 256 for based model. What a shame in 2024.

[@IshanKhandelwal]

Atleast they r giving 16gb base ram not like MBA

[@adityanair5340]

@@IshanKhandelwal tbf macos is less demanding than windows

[@metamon2704]

@@adityanair5340 they are not, it's just what apple tells you.

[@ArthropodSpidey]

@@metamon2704 it is. I'm pretty sure you've never even used macOS and just talking out of your ass.

[@cgh2467]

@@metamon2704 Coming from someone who used an 8GB M1 Air it ran far better than any windows laptop I have had with the same memory.

[@ilyasz4473]

Honestly the only thing I would like from this situation is for ARM Windows to become good enough so people can figure out how to dual boot macs with it :)

[@andrei8683]

Well true, it might be quite good for hackintosh. But ARM is not supported now, as far as I know. Only intel based processors mostly supported.

[@scod3908]

MS Windows has cut a deal with Parallels to ensure Apple users can only emulate their OS, and are doing everything they can to stop people running it natively on Apple products. Look up all the online grassroots dev projects to convert Windows ARM to Apple M series Silicon products.... they all go quiet Are Qualcomm/MS colluding to stop people from having the ability to directly compare the SoC with the same OS?

[@rahulbiswas52303]

Doesn't matter if it's Intel or AmMD or snapdragon. If you buy asus, warranty will be screwed for ya

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

AMD INTEL NVIDIA they are so dead for so long now, i mean their time was counted with M1 which was like an enternity ago... NOBODY will ever want anything from them, and no ai is not gonna save nvidia it will delay their dead for the longest but gpu's actually suck for ai

[@iamakkkshay]

​@@JohnSmith-pn2vl You are comparing it wrong, Apple uses the latest TSMC 3nm fab on top of ARM architecture to get all the efficiency. When Intel's Fab get better then they will also enjoy a much lower tdp for same performance, also Intel's X86 is constantly getting smart and modular as ARM.

[@maxrinehart4177]

​@@JohnSmith-pn2vl GPUs is not used for AI only, nvidia will never die as their product will shift towards another thing that benefits from their massive parallelism cores. gaming then cryptocourncy mining then AI ... etc.

[@Space97.]

​@@JohnSmith-pn2vlfr arm in the future not them. I hate x86 because x86 chips are absolutely terrible for battery life on mobile devices like laptops and that's a understatement 😂

[@israellewis5484]

@@iamakkkshay TSMC 3nm is not actually 3nm, but it's 3.5nmE. Don't be fooled by marketing. Transistors are actually larger than the marketing suggests anyway. Copper wires, and I/O on the silicon are not even going to be anywhere near 3nm. Mostly 28-12nm in size, since I/O performance does not increase as the lithography size decreases.

[@jtland4842]

All I want is for new laptops to support LPCAMM2 so we can have upgradable and serviceable ram in laptops again. Lenovo just brought it to market in the Thinkpad P1 Gen7 so hopefully the rest of their laptop range will get it this year or next.

[@ettcha]

Samsung announced at the same time. I hope all this brings about some great machines. That emulation layer had better be good too.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Exactly. Otherwise, it's going to ruin the devices.

[@dominic7012]

Laptop from Samsung? Good joke.

[@collinsgichuhi8255]

The Samsung Book 4 Edge was accidentally listed by a Vietnamese website and was costing around $2089

[@houssamalucad753]

@@dominic7012 Have you been in a cave or something? they make decent laptops already, now with the new chips they might step it up to making great ones.

[@Space97.]

​@@dominic7012I see they don't sell in your part of the world 😂

[@AdamConder]

I never thought I'd see a Macbook Air with a windows sticker on it.

[@p.aradise]

and they say apple copies lol

[@LoneWolf-py7ps]

@@p.aradise hahahaha apple sheep talking what a great sight to see

[@Space97.]

Bro really hahaha 😅

[@p.aradise]

@@LoneWolf-py7ps how am I a sheep when I'm stating facts? don't you think these look a lot like macbooks?

[@theothernodude3139]

@@p.aradise Don't try to rationalize with him. It'll be like talking to a brick wall.

[@TheBen4151]

As someone that much prefers windows OS over apple for a PC, I haven't even considered buying a new windows laptop since I got my M1 macbook air. Very excited to finally consider making the switch back.

[@k.vn.k]

This is basically a MacBook air copy.

[@boutstaxx]

Personally I use a Dell Xps 9520 upgraded ram myself to 64gb and a M1 1tb IPad still haven’t found anything worth me updating

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

xou probably used windows for decades and did notr learn macOS in depth like most

[@movieblues4614]

"Very excited to finally" be tracked by your ID to see W11 personalized ads?

[@sonofage]

@@dolurosu why bother with these apple fantards? see the smug response of probably didn't learn macOS in depth. what a smug response. I use a macbook M2 pro myself and there are things i prefer on windows like native tiling and clipboard history but macOS also isn't that bad either, since it feels like Linux but root user isn't accessible without enabling it and my VMs run a bit laggy. At the end of the day, use what works for you. stupid brand chasers. really hate these types.

[@shashankdogra]

My man killing it with those Uniqlo T shirts lately.

[@cameronbosch1213]

I'm still a bit suspicious on how Windows will work (or won't work) with ARM...

[@ZeitGeist_TV]

Mostly won't is my guess.

[@jak8274]

Windows already works fine on ARM since the Surface Pro X

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@ZeitGeist_TVAnd while Qualcomm is working on Linux support, good luck having to likely compile a lot of apps yourself, if they are FOSS, otherwise, you're currently screwed.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@jak8274 Key word on mostly. And I don't use Windows anymore, so I don't really care.

[@d3rocks4u]

​@@jak8274 I'm using one now and it's not all the way there yet

[@djsnowpdx]

The fact that the M4 beat the Snapdragon X series to market is why Qualcomm’s choice to show off the X Elite right after the M3 launch was all hype. Yes, we need low-power laptop chips, and yes, it’s nice to know when they’re coming in advance, but man, Qualcomm comparing their chip to the Apple M2 in their slides when Zen 5 laptop chips are now around the corner… they’re two different beasts. 0:16

[@VaporSprite]

Microsoft pushing for the ARM transition again... Third time's the charm?

[@netnomad47]

They want to catch up with apple

[@tringuyen7519]

Snapdragon Elite should be great against the M3 & AMD Hawk-point. But the M4 is already out & AMD is introducing the 12 core Strix-Point in 2 weeks!

[@adrianstere]

@@tringuyen7519 Amd and Intel are shit. Fan noise and low battery level no matter what products they release. The are light years behind apple and i hope this time Snapdragon Elite X will finally be able to deliver performance with no fan noises and excellent battery life.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

well now they could just copy apple since they showed how to do it. but windows is such a mess, it's way worse than android, it is literally the worst, so the software transition is the hardest part and will take a lot of effort time and money.

[@vishals7433]

​@@tringuyen7519highly doubt amd and intel can catch up with efficiency and power per watt; anymore. If these keeps on x86 will be nearly dead in future. M4 litreally killed best intel ever in single core with much less power and probably cost cheaper to apple. At this point no reason to use x86 variant except for gaming. The thing is so done for.

[@bhgemini]

Dave. Do you record via OBS, Atem, or similar? Instead of cutting between A & B camers in post, it looks like your are live changing cameras.

[@ddkeydd]

Yes he is

[@nadeemashraf2643]

he shows his camera and live changing set up in his Ipad review.

[@DeusRegum]

I prefer the square corners. Rounded corners seem like an inefficient use of screen space.

[@yoyo-nf1ww]

i prefer rounded

[@ctrl_x1770]

I agree, especially considering how movies, media, websites, etc. are all designed with a rectangular screen in mind. Standards can change, like how laptop screens went from 16:9 to 16 by 10, but a visual change with no real benefit like rounded corners is really just wasted screen space.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Same here. Especially given that it makes IPS panels cloudy around the edges (bot really the case with OLED but it's still a waste of space).

[@precursors]

All those 16 pixels lost…

[@AryaStarky]

What screen space are you missing, it’s literally the corners

[@gettcouped]

Definitely exciting! You are definitely right; we will need an EXTENSIVE amount of reviews to make sure it works for whatever use cases apply to each of us.

[@BlueGamer-q3v]

I am really excited for full native Linux support for these devices, which seems to be on the way! Also, eagerly waiting for Snapdragon X based Chromebooks.

[@mug786]

yes! imagine having a low power state on linux. imagine having a linux on a laptop!!

[@BlueGamer-q3v]

@@mug786 not sure I understand the tone of your comment.... What really excites me regarding these Snapdragon laptops is the possibility of having a thin and light Linux laptop that lasts about 20 hours on a single charge.

[@MrMoogle]

Same! I just left a comment wondering about Linux support. Glad to hear they are working on it! Fedora installs so easily on my Thinkpads and I would love to have that with the battery life of ARM.

[@mug786]

@@BlueGamer-q3v sorry, i'm not very good with tone. the biggest problem with linux on laptops is the lack of power efficiency. it's not even about arm or x86. the cpu itself works on max all the time, unlike macos or windows, where it idles unless there's work to be done. so a x86 windows laptop can last 12 h easily, but if you install linux on it it will be constantly warm and die in 5 h. hopefully we'll see this adressed soon.

[@kozad86]

You'll have to jailbreak them, MS has another exclusive deal with Qualcomm on these like they have for older ARM PC hardware.

[@AkashSingh-le1gk]

I always map that copilot key or whatever it is in previous gens to right ctrl. Makes it more useful for me

[@ZedDevStuff]

i honestly never use right alt. Would bind it to < if i get a laptop with one considering it's a rare key on laptops (even full size keyboards)

[@vik1ng313]

How do you remap that key?

[@brentspotswood]

I’m curious to see how this goes. I hate Mac but have been using a MacBook Pro for the last couple of years because it allows me to do the things I want to do without having to worry much about battery life. If I can do dev work, some light gaming, and some video editing then I really look forward to ditching the MacBook. Maybe ditching the apple everything.

[@AllGuitarSucks]

Its funny to see people saying they hate Mac but buy one anyways

[@hyperpedro2868]

It is a transition year. I really hope so. Close to move to Mac because of the battery life. But if we can get good Windows laptop with good battery life and without horrible Apple upgrade price I am all for it.

[@sonofage]

I use the macbook for traveling and the windows PC at home so i get you. With ARM, perhaps I can encourage the company i work for to have an opening for purchasing windows laptops for some.

[@alexdenton6586]

I am also going to pre-order the latest Surface Laptop and replace my Mac mini with it. Not only is Copilot plus PC impressive, but I have always preferred Windows for video games. Since I am subscribed to Shadow, it’s perfect for me-plenty of power and battery life to last a long time without charging, while still having access to my Windows in the cloud for gaming.

[@Ashanmaril]

Apple hasn't been doing rounded corners on the MacBooks for a decade. I believe the first time was the 2021 MacBook Pros

[@cameronbosch1213]

On the iPad Pro since 2018.

[@Ashanmaril]

@@cameronbosch1213 he said MacBooks. If we’re talking other Apple products, the iPhone X rounded the corners in 2017

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@Ashanmaril That's true. Like he said, only the top corners were rounded. All four sides of the Surface devices are.

[@Ashanmaril]

@@cameronbosch1213 I’m not disputing they rounded the corners differently, or commenting on it at all. I’m just curious why he thought Apple was doing it for a decade when it’s really been like 2.5 years

[@safwanshams9524]

I have a macbook pro from 2018 and it has rounded corners

[@Justanobody8472]

*Look at that subtle off-white coloring... the tasteful thickness of it. Oh my god... it even has a watermark*

[@brightziee]

man... been waiting for this launch this whole year 😭😭

[@ivovass195]

Thank you for excluding the copilot bs from this overview of these new devices. I see a good future for these thin and light laptops 😊

[@riklaunim]

I hope Linux support will be good and device tree lists will be available for each device.

[@onlysublime]

I can't wait to see one of these machines get in your hands! I preordered the Surface Pro with OLED, 16GB, and 512GB for $1349! fun times ahead!

[@paulhernaus]

I have a Surface Laptop Go 3. I never noticed, but while watching your video I now saw that it has 4 rounded corners too.

[@aliettienne2907]

1:06 The rounded corners for all four corners do enhance the overall beauty of the laptop screen. 1:06 The thin bezel design on the Surface Pro screen is sufficient and it is also elegant. 5:52 That massive leap in battery capacity is superfluous to use while travelling. 5:52 This type of battery capacity increase will increase the value of the laptop tremendously. 5:11 The omissions of a physical bezel have made this screen look absolutely gorgeous and addictive to stare into. 5:11 A two millimetres Accidental touch protection (the thickness of an old traditional bezel design) will eliminate people's fear of accidentally touching things that they shouldn't have touched if it was also a touch screen device.

[@greysenpaige]

Are you sure about OLED on the laptop? I can't find confirmation on that anywhere.

[@ethangaines2658]

Same... Let me know if you find it...

[@MrMoogle]

Clicked on the video to learn about the Surface, ended up being interested in the Lenovo Yoga, haha. I hope this second go at Windows on ARM goes better than the last. I wonder how Linux works on these things? I've never looked into ARM variants of Linux distros before.

[@frankhuurman3955]

also interested in the Lenovo Yoga ARM + Linux combo, I'm wondering if most of my games can run on it. If yes then I'm definitely getting one

Great! Do they run Linux?

[@valramos2003]

Dave does not attend tech companies’ developer conferences and product releases - they go to Dave.

[@DavidAlsh]

Linux support? 👀

[@pmabrouk]

I am glad that you are excited. Most serious software won’t run on the snapdragon x systems. I do wish that reviewers acknowledged this.

[@STREETFOODJOURNEY5]

i have the same exact Uniqlo t shirt 😂

[@fightnight14]

Holy moly this is the Surface Laptop that I've been waiting for. I abandoned my Surface Laptop Go in 2022 and got an M1 Macbook Air. It's time to go back up to the Surface!

[@michaelayeni177]

Same here my dream was a macbook that runs windows and my dream is HERE

[@fightnight14]

@@michaelayeni177 I hope that MS really nailed it this time but I’m not setting my expectations too high.

[@dinesh665]

Linux arm users: this could be my machine

[@digitalspecter]

That's me. I've been waiting for these devices. If the Linux support gets there I'll be buying several X Elite machines.

[@WololoWololo2]

⁠Linux already support arm

[@AntonioSocorro-n9w]

I have been using windows 11 on Parallels on the mac and running a bunch of x86 software, what I can tell is that so far the Prism emulation has been excellent, and this is running on top of an existing emulation layer. I cannot wait to see how these devices will perform natively.

[@SP_Saga]

4:57 - Thanks for using metric units Dave! 😊

[@tipoomaster]

If the Prism x86 emulation doesn't eliminate the efficiency benefit, they should make a Surface/Xbox handheld competitor out of this chip

[@saitejakonjela]

Is Intel dead?

[@sasia8738]

May be they are sleeping for now,will wake up with new specs and they will sleep again so on .....

[@Jjhffbki]

Gone… reduced to atoms

[@tradingbroofficial]

Won't buy it, I'll stick to x86 for compatibility

[@liquidmark5081]

Please stop. I can only get so excited.

[@aibel99]

Dead to me after they said they gonna build a mega factory in Israel

[@SeanStratmann]

Are you sure the surface laptops have OLED options? According to the Microsoft description, the laptops have PixelSense displays while the Pro has the OLED. Hoping they have an OLED option!

[@Emissary52]

When they're on sale for $379 at Best Buy, I'll pick one up. The prices on these machines are too high! They're priced just like Apple stuff. I'll gladly buy the model that has an IPS panel and a plastic case for half of what these machines selling for. Until then, I'll keep my cheap $279 Walmart Lenovo Core i3 11th gen laptop that I added a 512 GB SSD drive and 8GB of ram to for $50 more.

[@michaelchoi5247]

sucks to be poor bro.

[@Vishal-p4t]

How the hell this guy is getting younger and younger day by day 🔥 You're an inspiration in many ways dave !

[@elementneon]

The disparity between how much reviewers seem to love devices with Snapdragon chips, and how much users of those devices despise the slowness and lag they inevitably always seem to have, is pretty amazing. Either reviewers are super out of touch, or Qualcomm has a significant marketing budget.

[@scod3908]

Portable device MS Windows have been living in the shadow of the M series chips for 4 years, chained to the wall by their charging cables. Snapdragon only needs to be in the same ball-park as the M series for them to eat it all up. Higher thermals, greater range of hardware compatibility issues, MS Windows X86 application conversions 4 years behind and parallel development required to retain X86 compatibility... we'll just see if the extra performance from the ARM SoC can make up for all of those issues.

[@az-fy3mp]

or ur's panicking as apple and intel stock went red today while qualcomm stock is 2% up

[@scod3908]

@@az-fy3mp Couldn't give a flying F about the stock price, only care about the products offered. Qualcomm was a relative nobody in the field of processors to premium tier laptop buyers before their acquisition of questionable ARM based products developed by ex apple employees under licence terms which got them sued by ARM It's no wonder companies including MicroSoft were pre-releasing benchmarks from questionable sources {cough, signal65 who are apparently so biased they literally appear to advertise the Snapdragon product on their website's home page, cough} to push pre-orders trying to get the devices to market as quickly as possible. With all that cash behind them they can drag the process thru the broken USA court system long enough to make a fortune even if they lose or settle. Don't forget Qualcomm spent $1.4b purchasing Nuvia's ARM "server" licensed design, it's all about the profits The Qualcomm cores aren't as refined (see single core performance tests) and the device applications in the premium market are getting interesting to compare (eg, Macbook Pro M3 14" has 25% larger battery than the 14" Samsung Galaxy Book equivalent as well as the M series chips utilising a combination of efficiency cores which the Snapdragon lacks, so you can presume a marked difference in battery life). Let's not forget the PC-crew harping on about soldered memory.... while Samsung and others quietly released their Snapdragon products with eUFS memory

[@scod3908]

@@az-fy3mp how often do your troll accounts get removed that you comment from a ~6 month old account? What's your motivation, huh?

[@az-fy3mp]

@@scod3908 well, to keep it simple i'm allergic to bu11sh1t, when people gave a negative comment on products that wasn't even released yet, it seems kinda weird to me. why don't you predict the winning lottery number for this week too while ur at it? lol...

[@FastRedPonyCar]

I've been running the win11 ARM build as a parallels VM on both my M1 Mac Mini at work and another on my M1 Max MBP at the house and it's been absolutely flawless. I've tested some pretty obscure windows software on this ARM build of Win11 and everything just works... as a matter of fact, ARM Win11 runs faster on my macbook pro than a couple of brand new i7 laptops we have at the office. It feels on par with a new Precision 5680 with the 12 core i7 13800H CPU running standard x86 Win11.

[@johnnydoe3603]

20 Hours would be Sweet 😅

[@AhmedSh-nc6lj]

Best options to buy: Galaxy Book 4 Edge: 512+16 Amoled 2X + 120hz + X1E80100 version Yoga Slim 7x: 1TB+16 OLED + 90hz(1000nits) + X1E78100 VivoBook S15: 1TB+16 OLED + 120hz + X1E80100 Other Options: Dell XPS 13 but comes with IPS FHD+ screen Surface laptop 7 15" but comes with LCD screen too and 256GB base

[@flamingkillermc2806]

0:59 False apple has not being doing rounded corners for that long

[@victortoba-ogunleye4056]

AHA!!! Its just about 3 to 4 yrs

[@khaledchebat3802]

Hi Dave, Just a note that the OLED display is only available on the Surface Pro line and is not on the Surface Laptop devices.

[@lordwafflesthegreat]

Can't wait to put Linux on it!

[@kajetanczerwinski3962]

Linux (few apps) + ARM (few apps) = very few apps, sadly ://

[@fluffy_tail4365]

@@kajetanczerwinski3962 on linux you can just recompile stuff...most programs are open source

[@youtube_bot839]

Box64 and wine are already pretty good. These laptops should push their development even further.

[@petkogeorgiev2103]

@@kajetanczerwinski3962 Because of the Raspberry PI being so popular, pretty much all Linux software has ARM builds. Which to me is funny, as app support is one of the biggest problems with Windows on ARM, but no one acknowledges how good is Linux on that regard. My guess is that Linux currently has more ARM apps than Windows on ARM will have when these laptops release.

[@enkvadrat_]

@@kajetanczerwinski3962 I only want programs and not apps

[@MrBaskins2010]

finally ARM chips, hope windows 12 has less ads

[@A_GodApple]

Im surprised how he didn't compare this to the Apple Silicon MacBooks, which are the gold standard of laptops

[@josephle2381]

He did?

[@metamon2704]

how would he compare when it hasn't been released yet, did you even watch the video?

[@A_GodApple]

@@metamon2704 but he literally had it in his hands… and he even showed benchmarks of it compared to M3, might as well compare to MacBooks completely…

[@LofiMiso321]

This snapdragon x chip can compete with the base M3 chip that Apple offers, from last year. These chips will be released along side laptops that will go to market in 2025, when the M5 chips would be releasing. Kinda still lagging behind and playing catch up.

[@eds464]

@@A_GodApple most likely benchmarks given by the marketing team. Remember this is early access so just because he has the products in his hands doesn't mean he has free reign to test everything. This tactic or concept is not new with these companies.

[@hosseindianati7798]

Because you showed actual devices, I subscribed to see your in depth reviews.

[@kamaboko1]

Looks interesting, but at the end of the day it's still Microsoft. I've been let down by them too many times. They won't get me again.

[@theresalwaysanotherway3996]

compatibility and battery life are absolutely the most interesting parts of this device

[@hamrik25]

Cant charge this with USB C!! Its 2024. My toothbrush uses USB C

[@eskizerz]

Well I’m sure your toothbrush takes less wattage😅

[@MaxPower-11]

It’s not just a question of emulation. It’s also a question of how well Microsoft optimized Windows (and native ARM Windows apps) for the ARM architecture.

[@Catzanova]

600 nits - so no HDR

[@SamuelKYu]

A Proper 14inch 7845HS, 24G, 1T Laptop retails for 4000 CNY(less than 600 USD) in China, so anything above 700 USD has no merit being called CHEAP

[@definingslawek4731]

Wow that is crazy cheap, wish we had options like that in europe. I just bought an m3 max macbook pro for 3000 USD, I at the same time bought a 2300 USD windows laptop which I sent back as it wasn't as good.

[@imNotMeWhenimHungry]

I'll never forget when the US Air Force discovered Chinese spyware on Lenovo computers and banned purchases from them

[@TomNook.]

Microsoft ones will take photos every seconds of your screen. It's wonderful!

[@StuartRoskelley]

I'd be most interested to see a real world wsl example running on these laptops. My current laptop is fairly beefy on specs, but still struggles with daily wsl Ubuntu, vscode, and docker. A significant part of this is ram usage, but better processing management with a swap could in theory make this much better.

[@shashank_sati]

22 sec ago is craazzy

[@alex-chicago-80]

I haven't bought a laptop for years, opting to just use my custom built PC. I'm pretty much a hybrid consumer, using Apple and PC products for work so I know my way around both products. I've held off on buying an M Mac because of the rumors of these ARM chips. IF they deliver on performance and software compatibility, then my choice for a new laptop just got much easier.

[@suanthang2463]

Damn! I'm early af

[@Movie101yt]

Dave do you think the next big productivity laptop like Samsung tab s10ultra will also be a snapdragon elite chip?

[@NguyenTran-eq2wg]

The surface line up actually costs $1299 for the 16GB version. They say it starts at $999, but after you click pre-order on the website, you’ll see the only RAM option is the 16GB one, and the price is $1299.

[@Space97.]

I thought they said the surface pro starts at 999 not both?

[@NguyenTran-eq2wg]

@@Space97. On Microsoft’s website it says $999 for both.

[@tamal]

ARM ThinkPads with native Linux support would be nice.

[@xxnike0629xx]

My issue with these Surface products is the lack of user upgradeable components and that cloth-material finish on the laptop.

[@dustinbaconflipper]

Increased ARM support = increased value in my Steam Deck. Let’s goooo

[@dantierandbalogh]

Off topic, but will you review the pixel 8a? Would love to hear your thoughts on it

[@RinzSach]

They’re quite chunky actually in terms of volume cm3 but light. The MacBook Air 13.6 and 15.3 have less volume than even the smaller 13.8 surface laptop 7 in comparison which is quite surprising. I know it’s comparable to a 13.6 m3 MacBook in weight but volume is an interesting way to measure.

[@ashraffouad]

Thanks for the video, I’m getting confused by the number of processors to buy, and what processor is best for specific purpose. Plz have a video for this buying guide.

[@vasudevmenon2496]

Yeah performance in most x86 apps and Linux. Would love to see sustained performance between 13 and 15. Black version has 64GB and 1TB SSD. One bad thing is 13 inch didn't use 65W when you use x Elite. 39W base adapter doesn't use fast charge. Completely appalled by $2500 pricing since 15" has better ports and adapter with 2600$. Microsoft should have added 8840u or 8845hs in the mix. It's been long since the first surface amd laptop.

[@Mourik131]

That ASUS looked cool. Big screen, lots of ports, numbers keypad. How is the webcam?

[@eingoluq]

I need guidance. I AM NOT THAT TECH LITERATE! But I know a few things. I have used Revit, Autocad and Twinmotion on my Surface Pro devices for years, since the first one. Because of the scale of my projects, the surface was always perfect for what I needed. It is time to upgrade, but this new ARM stuff has me confused because all I know is that it is a mobile chip, meant for efficiency and power. does that mean there is a hit in performance? I want to use Davinci Resolve, Revit, Autocad and Adobe Suite, like I typically do. How good is the support for typical Desktop PC apps on these chips? would I be losing out on Power? and should I just get the previous Surface Pro and not the new one announced today?

[@Ezdiess]

U need to wait and see how the new translation layer will work on these app u r using. Raw power on these arm chips should be higher, but everything comes down to the support of the invidual apps, because for now i belive they are made mostly for x86 architecture, not arm

[@eingoluq]

@@Ezdiess okay. But I've been seeing talk that they have compatibility for x86. Is that what you mean by translation layer?

[@mhtweeter]

note: mac’s only started having the top corners rounded in late 2021 with the macbook pro 14 and 16 with m1 pro/max

[@extra4542]

FINALLY thinner bezels and I truly hope windows does ARM right

[@Joe_P593]

Dave: you are the first reviewer who actually understands that this inane move to thinner & thiner bezels is stupid. We need to hold these larger tablets without triggering items on the screen. This is especially a concern for those of us tech lovers who started in tech when Steve Jobs was an unknown, working in his garage…..Many of us of this vintage now have arthritis and need larger bevels to hold & enjoy the unbelievable performance a modern flagship tablet provides. Thank you!

[@Ozturw]

Dave, great review. 3 minutes 45 seconds you have said Surface Pro 11, you meant to say Surface pro 10 I think. Looking forward to testing the Surface pro 10

[@ksumar]

I personally loved the last laptop as it has amazing ports at 6:38. HDMI, 2 USB3, SD Card, Headphone Jack and if anyone spotted it, a NUMBER Lock for those Accounting Crunching moments. Winner for me. Sorry, what was the price and spec for the £1,100 model?

[@imSterling]

IINM, the Surface Laptop Go had rounded corners before the MacBook did.

[@duzzl6743]

It's good that Apple has actual competition in the premium Laptop industry now. It will force Apple to also improve.

[@marc_frank]

i wish they did a heavy stonewash finish on the pro. laying it on the back in class to take notes makes it very prone to scratches. a stonewash finish would hide those. a skin helps, but not it's ideal.

[@Marcin-Pilat]

I've been using a Surface Pro 7 i5 for the past 5 years and have been thinking about switching to a M3 MacBook. But my workplace got MacBooks because of their great battery life, and after using one for over year I still can't get used to MacOS. Managing files, windows, and multitasking just feels so unintuitive, and it's missing a lot of basic productivity features. Honestly, it feels like using Windows from 10 years ago. Plus, trying to use Excel professionally is a nightmare since the advanced tools in Power Query and basic keyboard shortcuts aren't there. I'm really excited to see the first reviews of the Snapdragon X Elite to find out if Windows laptops are finally a good choice. I might wait for the second generation before making a decision, though, since my Surface Pro 7 is still lacking only the battery life.

[@chidaruma_]

A lot of Free and Open source OSs have had support for ARM for a while now, app developers have been porting their software to ARM, and Windows now releases it and it's a wonder lol

[@picknassaro]

As long as that spyware called Recall can be turned off, and when it says it's off it's ACTUALLY off, and Windows Update doesn't turn Recall back on, these are exciting machines.

[@ashketchup6443]

Recall is local. Nothing is supposed to get sent out.

[@MarioShadbox]

Man, I love that Yoga 7x, being in Argentina makes very dificult to get access to one, but I'll get it sooner or later. Great vid Dave!