Devastating Quad Power (Gamebore Dark Storm)

[@jamesyb9364]

Hi Dave there’s nothing more relaxing than re-watching all your videos on a lazy Sunday afternoon. Our syndicate shot 283 of 3 drives on Friday, all of us lads watch your videos and we’re saying how much you would have enjoyed the day. Hope to see some new videos in the near future!

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks James I would have loved to have been there !! It sounds like I missed out and you had a great day👍

[@jamespb93]

Great stuff Dave! I laughed when you shot that pigeon, you made it look so easy and effortless 🤣

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

jamespb93 unusual luck😂

[@edwardnersesian1324]

Appears to be an effective cartridge in regards to terminal ballistics on your plate, Dave. Seems like that new wad provides a good seal to get the most out of the load and gives nice pattern density at that long range you were shooting. USA 5's are about the equivalent to English 4's and they are more than a match for any of the pheasants we shoot over here. The unscripted pigeon was the icing on the cake and not an opportunity to be passed up! Thanks for this one, keep them coming and take care of yourself and your family. Best regards as always, Ed.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Edward Nersesian Thanks Ed down range killing power is a must👍

[@CNW_FILMS]

I laughed also when you shot that pigeon........ Nothing flying is safe around you!!!!! Great video........

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Unfortunate pigeon 😳

[@keithhaynes8079]

What a shoot with that pigeon, very good test and take care Dave and look after yourself.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Keith Haynes Thanks Kieth

[@keithtpc1508]

Dave I tried these in 32 gram 4 shot. I bought 1000. Bearing I am a tall fairly lean build I don't suffer with recoil, I can fire a slab of 36 gram 3's plastic wads all day long with no ill effect whatsoever. I used the quadseals on pigeons and after 75 cartridges I was struggling to keep my head on the stock due to the excessive recoil. I went home battered and bruised and took the remaining 925 cartridges back to my supplier who kindly replaced them with my usual 32gram 4 plastic wads.

[@DFox-ud3gx]

Hello Dave, it's a grand day today young man.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

D. Fox 👌👌👌

[@ItsOnlyCarpingChris]

Great review and as others loved the interlude of the pigeon. As if it was scripted LOL. Defo nice cartridges and environmentally friendly as plus all round.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Chris 👍

[@walterwinstanley8502]

Excellent as ever and very impressive cartridges. I loved the bonus of the unfortunate pigeon, but I missed your compact disc! I use one on all my testing thanks to your previous tests.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Next tests will have them

[@ChrisSmith-mj4uj]

Used them in the 32g 5, very impressed with them. Went and picked up some 34g 4’s and 36g 4’s too

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Brilliant

[@ShotawayFilms]

Good news on the wads Dave.Intrigued to know more about the Teagues internals as a complete breakaway from the original constant conical design.These sound more like Briley or the actual American Extreme Chokes inner profile although as you pointed out there looks to be a pronounced relief to the muzzle.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks my friend - it looks a strange combination and i am still experimenting with them, but my favorit chokes will always be 3/4

[@martinpenticost8323]

Looks like another great product from Gamebore. Is there any chance of you putting some more of your older films back on your channel ?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Martin Penticost yes no problem by popular request we will be putting them up again 👍

[@herrmauser1066]

According to Gambore website these are continential shot sizes. 4's are kindl of large but will do the job

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

i do tend to favour the bigger shot on high birds

[@peterbalac1915]

Unfortunate pidgeon, nice shooting Dave informative video 🤙

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Peter

[@richardlongmuir8348]

Just cartridges have them available for online delivery

[@mchughcb]

Best patterning test I've seen. The office sign is smashed and between testing a pigeon was fried. Outstanding entertainment.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Pleased you enjoyed that one👌

[@banzai385]

Miroku man ! No messing about !

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Christopher Wigmore 👍👍👍

[@KingsOutdoorLife]

We don’t see a lot of Gamebore shells here in the states, but a friend gave me a flat/case of them a few years back. They seem to hit the clays harder and dust them more if that is possible. It’s as if the shot is harder than cheap American loads.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

they are a quality shell

[@salkinjensen]

Hey Dave, i have enjoyed your videos , is there any chance you will do some tests with steel shots like the, Dark Storm Precision Steel, Kent Faststeel bio and so on. Kind regards from Denmark.

[@MrJonRose]

Cotswold Country in Cirencester have them in stock

[@domj345]

Fantastic review as always Dave 👏 and nice shot on the pigeon!

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Dom

[@danmcn7343]

Unreal how easy you made shooting that Pigeon. Some shot sir. If I shot one at that distance I be bragging about it for weeks

[@zsuzsannaivan5841]

Yeapp. I have probably one shot per year like that.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Dan a bit of luck really

[@danmcn7343]

@@DaveCarrieShooting Ave seen ur video not too many ppl shoot like that. Ave a wile habit of lifting head off stock any tip ls in how to stop this lol

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

@@danmcn7343 stock sounds too flat you should try a comb raiser

[@simoncarey8065]

Love the bonus pigeon Dave, they look a cracking cartridge and also well priced I hear.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Simon Cracking shell

[@nickevans1763]

Another great video on pattern/density/impact. Well done Dave. I assume your Mirokus are bored 18.7 like mine. Using some 40gm wool wad loads I get terrible blown patterns through tight chokes, but a half or 5/8 choke shoots an 83% pattern at 40yds. Any comments / advice please ??

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

I did reply to you Nick by gmail

[@motohunter2390]

Always forget to ask you as it just reminded me when you shot that pigeon just wondered if you do pigeon shooting ? Roost shooting and decoying ? Would like to see a video of you doing it

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Don’t shoot pigeons apart from the odd one, but it may happen in the near future 👌

[@motohunter2390]

@@DaveCarrieShooting shame its the most sporting bird of all and the hardest to shoot if you can shoot them consistently then you can shoot anything i do shoot driven pheasants partridges and ducks or rough walked up but it dont interest me that much pigeon shooting is alot more fun and challenging and its free yes im a tight ass but driven shoots are a rip off dont understand why someone would pay that much ive been lucky enough to get them for free never payed for a driven day but i choose pigeon and corvid shooting over it anytime and its free and also cheaper and more fun then clay shooting and cant eat clays

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

motohunter it is truly the most sporting of birds and on its day takes some beating

[@motohunter2390]

@@DaveCarrieShooting do you still go rabbiting dave ?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

motohunter No but used to love it, I only shoot grouse when in surplus and prefer to just shoot birds that are put down for shooting such as pheasant and partridge - thus leaving our wild indigenous species alone, I think commercial shoots are the best conservation tool we have got as it takes so much pressure of our wild stuff👌

[@drgdfhfdhfd498]

Is possible you could shoot at 70 yards with some load, i cant get any reasonable pattern at that distance. Are there alot of luck patterning wise involved when you shooting at 70 yards ?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

It is possible with the correct loads and choke👍

[@drgdfhfdhfd498]

@@DaveCarrieShooting I would love that to be your next shooting test video. Fan from Sweden :)

[@mikeproctor3664]

Great video. Are you guys having an ammo shortage over in the UK like we are having here in the U.S.?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Not really Mike (if you mean bullets) we are only allowed to purchase a small amount

[@andrewhurstcars]

Nice shot on the pigeon. Bring back the CDs next time!

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

No problem Andrew👍

[@nayelicoello2543]

Buenos videos amigos de caza saludos buenos catuchos🇪🇨

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

muchas gracias

[@01redleg]

Have you released the footage of you testing the quad seal at Warter?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

not yet - soon tho

[@RobertSmith-qs8yl]

Cracking shot on the pigeon, but you really need to read up on internal and external ballistics, any two cartridges with the same muzzle velocity and shot size/type will have the exact same energy at any given down range distance, it being irrelevant how the cartridge was constructed. Momentum is a factor of gun weight, mass exiting the muzzle and its muzzle velocity. Quad seal benefit, potentially a better pattern, however pattern is also a function of the gun choke otherwise why choke a gun barrel. Less propellant to obtain required muzzle velocity is certainly a commercial benefit as reduces the manufacturing cost of the cartridge.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Robert

[@colinjohnston5465]

Hi Dave, what's your view on the steel equivalent shells? I know Gambore have brought in a range with biowads and I wondered if you'd a play with them?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Don’t think steel will ever beat lead, but Gamebore are making great advances with the new wad

[@colinjohnston5465]

@@DaveCarrieShooting the wad changes are great but 2 shot sizes bigger means less of a pattern, with a harder shot means more injuries to me. Have you tried bismuth? Forget thw price, I just need to know if they work! 😉 Then I will trim my shooting around the economics of the cartridges and my MK60s!

[@leeshaw6641]

haha, after all the testing, he swung onto that pigeon which said it all lol

[@keithtpc1508]

Dave have you used the Quad sells on pheasants yet?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Tried the 34grm 4s and 5s great little cartridges

[@robsharp7913]

Any idea when 20 bore loads are coming Dave?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

I would think next season Rob!!

[@robsharp7913]

@@DaveCarrieShooting Thanks Dave, Keep up the good work!

[@Verminterminator]

No DVDs today then Dave

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

No but due to return

[@JW-oy1hg]

I would like too try them out on pheasant here in the usa

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Ideal JW

[@alistairtaitsnowie4570]

How do these compare recoil wise from the normal black gold? Which one is better on that front?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Very similar Alistair as far as recoil is concerned 👍

[@tobyhanson199198]

Dave who did the pattern testing you mention?

[@nickevans1763]

May be reference to video on Utube by Shoot Straight Ltd.

[@williecosgrove]

Would they be good enough for grey lag geese out of a semiauto full choke 36 in barrel do you think ? Thanks

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

They are not in steel at the moment

[@williecosgrove]

@@DaveCarrieShooting We dont have to use steel over grass land in EIRE

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

williecosgrove I think they will be developing a new wildfowl load around the new Quad wad that they are going to produce, I would hang on for these👍

[@williecosgrove]

@@DaveCarrieShooting thanks Dave

[@tonyashton780]

Hi Dave hope you and family are well. What are your thoughts on banning lead shot and going on to steel. I'm against it on every level from less effective and humane than lead, does not suit all shotguns,/barrels!, very poor science as to its effectiveness,known to rust or needs zinc coat more toxic than lead!!!, started by John Swift ex BASC enough said, a tool for the anti, s. Even MP Liz Truss rejected the anti lead group, s findings as per John Swifts presentation. What are the alternatives, we can use paper or recyclable cases, bio wads, but I know Diamond Shot is with out equal. Take care my friend going to be an interesting 3 to 5 year period in cartridge manufacture. Regards Tony

[@tonyashton780]

@union310 Some properties still have, it's only when modernising that high pressure high grade piping is used. The water pressure on old lead pipes isn't a patch on modern one, s. I see your point but iv never heard or had evidence presented of anyone in the uk injured/killed by lead consumption. It is vital for energy retention and clean humane kills. Steel shot is rubbish and just not needed.

[@tonyashton780]

@union310 Can't fault your opinions and I was lucky enough to enjoy a cane rod from my late grandfather. It was made by a certain Dick Walker entombed in angling history. My nephew has it still. I only use a. 410/28 guage both 3/4 and full fixed choke. There is no way I can run steel through them. I'm sure I'm not on my own and yes lead is toxic no question, but we don't have a good viable swap to option yet IMHO. I'd happily use an eco cartridge but steel is useless side by side with lead. All the best mate regards. Tony

[@ВячеславАльмухамбетов-ш7л]

Здравствуйте....скажите пожалуйста...как профисионал стрелок,,,,я хочу купить ружьё итальянское со стволами длиной 81 см ,длина ствола влияет на дальность выстрела..или нет..?, или 71,76,81 .длина стволов одинаково???? Я просто люблю дальние выстрелы...стаю перед выбором..что посаветуете мне...??????

[@benbeats2329]

Love the all your video but can't take these video seriously until you can compare them to another brand

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

длина ствола не влияет на выстрел, но длина ствола может повлиять на манеру обращения с ружьем, чем длиннее стволы, тем устойчивее поворот

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Hi Ben there is plenty of others doing other brands and i do not get in to a situation where it would be possible to rubbish another brand, you have to come to your own conclusions

[@jonnyellis3134]

What range was this dave? Thanks Jonny

[@jonnyellis3134]

Pattern testing no pigeon 😊

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

50yds

[@charliedaubney2765]

Lmao that pigeon

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Charlie Daubney lucky shot 👍

[@Jolly56Roger]

No one can afford these tha nose!

[@christopherdodds1598]

🤣 Brilliant

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

thanks