The WORST Alt History Path - THIS IS WHY!

[@electricVGC]

Anyone remember when you could annex the Soviets as FDR for free

[@FeedbackGaming]

🙌🙌🙌

[@jacekgedek3872]

Tears in the eyes! :)

[@jackoakes1328]

U still can?

[@joeshmo1926]

@@jackoakes1328 no you can not. You now when you do the focus join the Comintern

[@jackoakes1328]

@@joeshmo1926 right but you don’t need to be communist to do that nor join the war. Obv u have to join the war later but u wait till u join. The unions

[@elolawynladriel]

Imagine the reaction of the workers at the ports when you go and cancel all those half built ships.

[@FeedbackGaming]

Communism is when the dock workers are sent home because I don't need a navy

[@Idoexist._.]

​@@FeedbackGamingand then they are fed those sweet ship oil 🛢️ and metal 🪙

[@pocketgroyper9301]

Seeing all of those half built heavy cruisers getting deleted with such remorseless apathy is painful

[@freeportkid]

Almsot like the US actually canceling the littoral ships 💀

[@impostorsyndrome1350]

You said you never did that path, Dave. But you did. When the new dlc came out, you were the one who introduced us to this strategy of the US annexing the Soviet Union

[@craniusdominus8234]

Look, if you know from the start that you're going for Join the Unions, you can sort of preempt the supply problems by building railways in Siberia all the way to the Urals, while Russia is still dealing with a bad case of the Wermacht. It's not exactly an unforeseeable problem, you know...

[@FeedbackGaming]

Siberia Supply 💀💀💀

[@ViktorVildras]

In addition if you build a large anti-train bombing airforce you starve them out, as its a long way of blowing up logistics from Berlin to Siberia.

[@peterscott4715]

Great video, Dave

[@alaricvis09]

That McCarthy fella would like to have a chat with you.

[@jonasastrom7422]

McCarthy did nothing wrong

[@endzor]

4:11 argument for planning economy over market economy. America under Roosvelt, went out of depression becauss of large intervention of government into economy.

[@jansatamme6521]

well hehe if you knew that triggered a recession during a depression which is an achievement, it was the 1st time the US government had intervened in times of economic crisis and it worsened the situation

[@jonasastrom7422]

FDR prolonged the depression, and the depression itself was caused by Wilson's interference in the government along with Hoovers failed intervention into the economy

[@mappingshaman5280]

The US did not go out of the great depression until ww2 started and they were able to sell weapons to the allies

[@robert2690]

And Ronald Reagan’s trickle down “free market” economics made the rich richer and further put more people back in poverty.

[@Maeda-c5t]

Dave found himself on the CIA list after this video.

[@MadpupYT]

It's also very good because some (all?) Of the communist focuses that reduce the effect of the great depression don't have timers before you can take the next one, so what you can do is start doing the historical focuses to reduce the great depression, then start down the communist path focuses to reduce it further before the timer ends, then switch back to historical, allowing you to end the great depression early, and stay democratic.

[@Majster4K]

That's a pro gamer move

[@McHobotheBobo]

Kind of what happened historically tbh

[@AlvorReal]

@@McHobotheBobo Not at all. FDR badly exacerbated the situation.

[@pannik_lucas]

​@@AlvorRealNon American here. Can you tell more about his role in the crisis?

[@NightgerbilTV]

@@pannik_lucas it was a liquidity crisis ie there wasnt enough money in the ecomy for people to buy goods and services resulting in a collapse of people being able to afford stuff like rent:-homless farmers and repossessed farms. goods:- so retail ecomy tanked and small businesses went under as customers didnt have money and unemployment went through the roof :- no money to pay workers. what was needed was a large influx of money. You could print it off in HUGE quanitiies but that causes inflation and a host of other issues. wrecks your middle class see weimar germany for example. So what the solution WAS, was to get gold and specie from other countries ie make them buy american goods for money you can use in the domestic ecomy. What FDR did instead? he sterilised the gold inflows into the economy and made the great depression last until ww2 FINALLY dragged them out of it. Its ironic that hes remembered as a great president, when he was arguably the 2nd worst ever. First being the guy from 1856-1860 who guaranteed the american civil war would happen.

[@Crisis-stove]

Imagine the US and the Soviet Union would have started to cooperate in the forties like this. Would the world have turned communist?

[@Ghfvhvfg]

Probaly yes comunism would spread in The most corners in some ways

[@oobediah2668]

the cold war wouldve never happened, for one

[@noohmayoof2389]

I think that if you don't join the war against the germans, you would annex all the soviet cores, including the ones that the axis took. Never tried it, but it's a theory!

[@FeedbackGaming]

Na it forces you to join the war now. Big sad

[@noohmayoof2389]

@@FeedbackGaming YESSSS HE REPLIED...BUT NOOO I CANT DO THE USA COMMUNIST CHEESE AS WELL ANYMORE

[@colBoh]

@@FeedbackGaming Really? I played the game just today, and I was allowed to join the unions WITHOUT being at war with Germany, leading the the Germans just having to withdraw without doing anything. We were both at war with Japan, so maybe that circumvented it.

[@FelipeTempestad17]

That intro for the initial preparations was amazing, every youtuber says the same things at the beginning of their videos but with this i saw everything and the people who wants guides to start have a nice click by click. More of this Dave please 👏👏

[@grimsleeper1006]

i am absolutely convinced persona music fits with anything

[@stonedtowel]

Curious if paradox even remembers how broken commie murica is. Very good shit Dave.

[@bavakian42.0]

Its almost like austerity doesnt help get out of recessions/depressions

[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

My brother in christ it is a video game.

[@The_Watcher-v6]

For anyone wondering, thay first song is called lava cake and is from p5

[@AlexDeLarge1]

The Communal Property Act is actually what allows you to do the Communal Domain decision.

[@DrVadGun]

9:39 me after finding out that lincoln like Marx's ideas.

[@timothyhouse1622]

You can partially go down the left path even as democratic. It is MUCH better than the "traditional" path.

[@keyrex1111]

10:20 Communal Property Act Decision can be done many times, not just once

[@FeedbackGaming]

Every click poop

[@footisman2059]

So.... Infinite factories is a thing apparently.

[@elolawynladriel]

Ah yes, valkyria chronicles engineering theme. I see you are a man of culture as well.

[@TheFrozenFever]

That casual Persona jam on the background at start~

[@tobinhargreaves2481]

American here, although FDR’s new deal was very liberal it was actually Lyndon B. Johnson’s government that gave us most of the welfare we enjoy in the states today.

[@UlulvarCape]

Chasing daybreak when going for berlin is such a fitting theme

[@whatisalifeihavenone4708]

The use of Chaoz Japan when you landed in Japan was genius, Love Castle Crashers

[@drmezzy]

Appreciate the use of Fire Emblem music

[@Tarvos0]

I dig the Valkria Chronicles music whenever you dip into the unit designer.

[@WaterYoshi]

Hiring Walt Disney so that I can be op

[@FeedbackGaming]

+1 stab

[@FlierEmblem_]

Persona and Fire Emblem music? Based Dave as usual

[@peperoni_pepino]

Haha, I guess the game devs are American if they think that pensions are a communist idea.

[@standing710jail]

Does anyone remember the video he did that was the hardest one? That video made me do that, and I struggled to do something until 1939 November. I did the hardest one, and that was Malta, but with 200% Germany and soviet union, you should do that really fun and vary hard 😁

[@RomanRembolovich]

actually mr.Truman had done exactly left part of the focus tree and it did not create any civil war in the us.

[@romawar]

9:45 Is that Valkyria Chronicles 4 ost?...

[@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift]

about that gurantee american dream focus. it is somewhat related to one of FDR's later welfare proposals

[@hydronpowers9014]

Mexico: Nationalize the oil fields CSA: *Angry capitalist noises*

[@TheDefaultName]

OIL?🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

[@Jean-ji5pc]

3:07 "when u close yours eyes but nothing changing at all "

[@adamsaputrama5934]

Victoria 3 when?

[@FeedbackGaming]

SOON

[@Amalek666]

There Should be a Feature even in historical Games, when you Take an alt-history Path, big Nations or Nations around you are Influenced by that. For example, usa goes communist, than Canada and Mexico go fascist so to Balance Out the game.

[@Pulstar232]

they already do that. not specifically for canada and mexico. for example france goes communist if you go with the kaiser if you play germany.

[@Amalek666]

@@Pulstar232 exactly that. But an Auto Feature, for example, If you Go communist in usa, a National Spirit of ticking fascist Support appears in states around you

[@mappingshaman5280]

Yeah and when I play romanov Russia Lithuania usually suicide charges Poland.

[@fragdummy]

@@Pulstar232 In my playthroughs, france goes fascist

[@zacharysilver911]

They do. If you go Democratic as Germany France can go fascist and make a faction with Italy or communist.

[@DaSoda70]

Hmmm, I wonder where Dave found that music at 1:25

[@enzoschebath8044]

CSA vs CSA ..... was ?

[@thekommunistkrusader3921]

14:52 so question feedback, when you say the latest patch do you mean the open beta patch or like the one thats absolutely finalized for the community

[@impostorsyndrome1350]

it used to be you wouldn't have to go to war with Germany, that was just too OP

[@JonMI6]

You can go Communist without ever going through a civil war as the US. I’ve done it before with the MTG DLC

[@jaisummons2304]

I heard UDSU, I never heard of USSR. And Germany made a faction called NATO and British and France joined it.

[@justaperson3910]

So I don't think that flipping to communism as the united states should remove roosevelt from power if that path is "democratic socialism" because if it to show a reforming of the nation and it keeps congress, why earl?

[@Line_of_Sight]

He used ParagonX9 - Chaos Japan during his invasion of Japan Marvelous

[@sangeetakushwaha2408]

You were building Nuclear reactors

[@FeedbackGaming]

shhhhhhh

[@rudebox5688]

Hey Dave, A game mechanic I never hear you talk about is stealing technology blueprints. Maybe because of the RNG nature so it's not appropriate for your guides. It also requires 3 spys, ideally 4. I've recently started doing it and it seems OP, like getting 1942 computing machine in 1939 for 150 days of research OP. This was with only 3 spys, could do even better with 4 (italy can get 4 early) It seems less good with naval / military tech as you often just get small bonuses. Would love to see you test or talk about spy operations.

[@joelh5071]

Do you have to be in the war with Soviet enemy to hit the join unions button? If not, you can just hit it and annex Soviet, and peace out straight away

[@dropbear8579]

It would be funny af if Stalin became your VP and you got Soviet advisors and military staff 🤣

[@mystoftheraptor8622]

mfw Fire Emblem Three Houses background music

[@SoloTURK11]

4:17 bro watched too much not just bikes

[@humboldtsentinel]

Would have it been easier just to leave the annexed Ruskie armies to sit on the Urals (albeit with perhaps improved tech/supply) while punching through the Mediterranean to cap the Axis from their weak side?

[@blckmes1233]

Can someone pls explain this aa tank "meta"?

[@tylerhovind7187]

Not 100% sure but I think it's a fairly cheap tank design that provides hardness, AA, and AT all at an efficient cost.

[@robertlewis6915]

The CSA was in the right here.

[@jung9399]

Interesting that paradox made Patton a general for the communist side

[@tonyravioli1982]

Patton loved America. Although it was a communist country it still had democratic elements so it's not like it's maoist china or the Soviet union where people start getting disappeared and murdered. I mean after the civil war legit reallowing people to enter is the most America and unrealistic thing under the circumstances of being communist.

[@rahmi.2934]

18:50 Oppenheimer bombs

[@atlantiswolf]

I remember holding off the civil war until I had a large army with tanks and I crushed the Confederates in like a week or 2 because they didn't have anything that could really go toe to toe with tanks.

[@MickyAngello]

Seen this done so many times. Never seen someone make the confederation of nations as the UK, and then turn fascist by 1939 (maybe can be done earlier) exploit

[@zoso8700]

Does Join the Unions give you cores on all of the USSR or just ownership?

[@colBoh]

Just ownership. You still have to garrison the USSR, which is a nightmare... Unless you release the Soviets' constituent countries as your puppets, which will help shorten the front line. American Komi, anyone?

[@averyvincent8361]

how is everyone?

[@FeedbackGaming]

gd gd

[@Left4Candy]

Uhm, how many casualties did they inflict on you?

[@MediPL]

Excellent choice in Persona music

[@primesonic4459]

Hoi4 Dave Lofi release date when ?

[@thecpt6265]

feedback gaming vid drops, me happy

[@FeedbackGaming]

LAD

[@XaidenAtwood]

i love that you used layer cake from persona 5 lol

[@02091992able]

The problem with the US spending money today is that they have no one watching what the money allocated is used for. So, they hand money to a state to improve roads and bridges. Something like billions of dollars. After a set amount of time nothing has changed, and the money is nowhere to be found and the roads and bridges are still in terrible shape. Also bills purposed in the house and then sent to the senate. Today's legislation they use fancy words to describe the bill like "relief" or "infrastructure" and only about 10% of the purposed money will actually go towards that. One of the relief bills during covid gave Egypt 300 billion dollars for military equipment which at that time they bought exclusively from Russia the one before that mentioned cannabis over 70 times. The infrastructure bill as part of the "build back better" plan only had about 10% of the funds go towards infrastructure. It's not like the interstate and highways act at which billions went towards building our interstate system that money was used by the feds to build it and they built allot of it during the 50s and 60s.

[@benjaminmiddaugh2729]

6:59 You do know that multiculturalism is not a panacea, right? Edit: I'm aware that it's likely part of the bit, but I'll leave this here for those who take it seriously.

[@pocketgroyper9301]

For some reason when you go communist as USA you get to keep almost all of the generals in the Civil War(it's insane to think Eisenhower, Patton, etc would have ever supported communism but w/e) So, that plus the manpower bonuses pretty much make it always better than going fascist. I wish paradox would make a non aligned path for the USA to allow them to voluntarily become a monarchy if Britain goes non aligned, and then form the United Kingdom of America. This way you the player can play it instead of only having them as a puppet when playing as Britain.

[@tonyravioli1982]

Nah. If america had a non aligned it would be "we are the true emperors" and taking uk as puppet.

[@olemlund]

Ugh... The USofA focus tree is so sad. 😭

[@wrightgaming5173]

You should do vapsid Estonia

[@JasonWolfeYT]

Best America build is still 1) core porta Rico 2) leave naval treaty 3) homeland security act 4) cap Allies 5) cap Germany 6) cap Japan 7) cap soviets You can get FDR holding 79% of the planet

[@OverlordMalarkey]

Dave: The path nobody just cos noone likes civil wars Me: But.... but I like Civil Wars

[@theomegapyrope9715]

persona 5 music heard persona 5 exploit when

[@Some1ButNotU]

18:49 nuclear reactors?

[@scubandym1941]

Great video. I’m having a hard time letting go of my flame tanks, I just add flame tanks and the AA tanks if I can afford it. The AA tanks are so strong I don’t think I need it

[@vaclavnutil2646]

feedback gaining class consciousness ?? 😳

[@SomeNoobWithCE]

As an American i cam actually say this isn't ALT history. This is reality. People get more freedom and protest. Get more liberty, protest.

[@aJ-bw2sw]

bruh

[@thelordofcringe]

I'm pretty sure putting the literal mafia in congress as "representation" for workers isn't liberty lmao. Average urbanite mafia parasite opinion.

[@unbindingfloyd]

They should have the USA core the USSR and rename the country to USSA or something

[@krematos5765]

Tip: If u not join the war againts Germany. U can anex whole USSR. Overrun Germany divisions, which going back to borders. Them declare war to Germany and anex them for free. Cuz whole German divisions are still in USSR.

[@Tispy]

do you get cores on it, tho?

[@phoenixwright7802]

love the Three Houses music 🥲

[@frankunderbush]

CSA path plays just like democratic USA but it snowballs so incredibly hard, and early, AND you get to justify wars against anyone you want like the real Uncle Sam

[@jakubwysokinski3266]

I hate naval invasions, I'm doing same one you did with prep before war and I don't have naval supremacy Sadge

[@colonelreb2688]

Freedom under communism/socialism/Marxism? Yea those two things totally go hand in hand...

[@kittencorp.3295]

Under democratic socialism.

[@bwarre2884]

A bit like big corporations and freedom?

[@redcrown5154]

@@bwarre2884 i know a third way :)

[@truwu8177]

7:00 something something

[@robert2690]

I want to live in this alt-history.

[@mrbeen4662]

But its the tought That counts If when the south rised back again

[@sahilhossain8204]

Lore of The WORST Alt History Path - THIS IS WHY! Momentum 100

[@snekkie117]

supply depots desperately need t obe reduced in cost they take so long to build

[@ben9583_]

Classic US play, but the editing here is pretty outstanding, 10/10

[@TheBusbyBabes]

imo join the unions is an insanely strong decision

[@Mr_Dimento]

I like the fire emblem music

[@yorkofski4197]

Got here through discord!

[@FeedbackGaming]

www.discord.gg/feedbackgaming

[@AntiFurry927]

Communists when the rich run out 💀

[@Rizzo_67]

I got inspired and did this one it was a lot of fun.

[@darthsidious1004]

I thought i was very late with the focuses but somehow i outproduced you in terms of stockpile in infantry equipment (had like 30k guns) but then the war started while i was still democratic so i flipped to communism and won it within the year of 1938. Idk how but i guess luck

[@Jay_Es]

Never expected Paragonx9 on a hoi4 vid. :D

[@TankBoii]

Building Refineries

[@charlessmith9903]

3:28 not alt history just 2023

[@Badmaster3659]

Me as the usa building nukes: 18:49

[@CARL_093]

its a killing munchie

[@FeedbackGaming]

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