David C. Pack - You Have 51 Days to Sell All Or Lose Salvation

[@MsCarBat]

That's right, Mr. Pack, YOU will receive a greater judgment..!!

[@exRestoredCOG]

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[@aservant2287]

He won't make heaven. 1 Corinthians 6:9 do not be deceived no extortioner will enter the kingdom of heaven

[@dennisdiehl8941]

The man was, no doubt, trying to recover the money he personally gave to this prophetic and pastoral charlatan.

[@johngulloo5901]

I never thought of that. Good Call.

[@williamisrael8525]

He said this in 2016...imagine if people had sold all their possessions and gave it to that man....they would be living on the streets....

[@exRestoredCOG]

That's the thing, though, people HAVE. I knew of people who had to move back in with their parents as adults beyond their 40s!

[@RichardNogan]

Yes those that get into power. Twisting scripture.

[@exRestoredCOG]

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[@fredgillespie5855]

The reason the early Church members sold up and had "all things in common" was because they thought that Christ's return and the end of the age was immanent. It was not because God commanded it, He didn't.

[@exRestoredCOG]

Exactly this.

[@LukeMarkam]

To argue Pack’s point in that though, he is saying that Christ’s return is soon as well

[@exRestoredCOG]

@@LukeMarkam Ha, yeah, 80+ false predicted dates since March 2022. 😆

[@fredgillespie5855]

@@LukeMarkam - Well Christ's return is certainly closer today that it was back then - but there is a lot, time wise - to happen before that event. That leaves Pack with a problem, either he doesn't understand prophecy - or he is one of those people who "through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:" (2 Peter 2:3) Personally I would just steer well clear of him.

[@Handyman-d5u]

Question: I do know that the rich man was told to sell all that he had. Was he told to give all that to the church/ I don't remember Mr. Armstrong preaching this.

[@exRestoredCOG]

He was told by Christ to give all that he had TO THE POOR, not to the church (this is in the Bible). Both HWA and Pack have twisted this and state to give to the church, trying to say it was because it was not built yet. They use Ananias and Sapphira, too, but that story was about lying. Instead of giving fully what they got, they gave some and lied and said they gave it all. HWA absolutely has twisted so much in regards to money. Making up 'excess second tithes' and tithe of tithe, and he admitted it was an administrative decision but then made it a command. In almost every single co-worker letter, he also guilt tripped and hung salvation on a carrot stick, telling everyone to sell all, all the while he lives it up lavishly.

[@fredgillespie5855]

@@exRestoredCOG - That instant evangelist Stanley Radar was interviewed on 60 minutes. He was asked about the allegation that the Church had $50million in gold in a Swiss bank, his reply "every prudent organisation has a strategic reserve stashed away." I wonder where that $50 million went to. Radar also had a fleet of Rolls Royce cars (he collected them) rented private jets to the Great Leader and owned the accountancy firm that did the Church's books. Meantime tithers were mostly living in poverty. The Church eventually admitted that tithing wasn't taught in he New Testament. As the saying goes - "there is one born every minute" and I was one of them, but despite it all I learned a lot - much of it by thinking for myself and asking for answers.

[@johnpeter1999]

Only wolves in sheep's clothing snarl and threaten. They use the scriptures to spiritually terrorize the brethren as they fleece them for all their worldly Goods. What happened to the first church and it's prophetically happening again. We must hold back the tithes and offerings until God corrects this issue in the divided churches.

[@sonnyfleming904]

What a jerk. I'm talking about David

[@exRestoredCOG]

Haha. He's a very dangerous man.

[@MargaretWalkerCellist]

Sigh...This man doesn't minister anything but threats: Christ didn't do that. HIS ministry has gone to his head and he is FULL of himself, NOT the HOLY Spirit. That's how he comes across to me anyway... Sigh.

[@exRestoredCOG]

No, I completely agree. He does preach what Christ taught at all. He does the exact opposite.

[@347-gf8rc]

The same thing happened in late 1999. People were told to sell all their possessions and prepare for the Lord's return in 2000. Later on, I saw most people regretted that time losing everything they owned. This false teaching is no difference to that of 1999.😭😭😭😭😭

[@exRestoredCOG]

Who was the leader, then who taught that? David C. Pack? This man has had many people sell all. Many struggle and can't get back on their feet because of this man.

[@vic2152]

Wrong, wrong, wrong ,wrong. Anyone who asks ordinary people to put their financial security in jeopardy laying on them psychological pressure through corrupted doctrine has a lot to answer for. Acts 5:1-11 shows us that their (Ananias and Sapphira) sin was to lie to the HS. There would have been no penalty otherwise it was their money to do what they liked with (Acts 5:4).

[@exRestoredCOG]

This 💯 spot on.

[@mannybaquero2129]

Sell all and give it to me 😂🤣 It baffles my mind to see people actually following this buffoon !!!

[@exRestoredCOG]

@@mannybaquero2129 I know 😮‍💨😕

[@user-tu9ox4hj9g]

Pack doesn't understand Jesus was testing a specific man not every reader of the book. 10% is the prophets rule of tax to the church. Not to sell everything you own. Which is a stupid action to pursue. I feel bad for his victims.

[@exRestoredCOG]

Me too. It's definitely intentional, though, that he twists scripture. He is power and money hungry and is always finding ways of getting more. I feel sad that so many fall for it. I feel ashamed that for a time, I did, too. 😮‍💨

[@wjc780114]

This the best most comprehensive article I have ever read about tithing. It’s very long though. stevenmcollins.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/15092731/Tithing.pdf

[@paulbrooks2024]

Gerald Flurry is he the preacher,

[@johnpeter1999]

You couldn't be more right. False Apostles prophets and ministers as well as teachers take the scriptures out of context. We must stand strong.

[@rexjamerson9316]

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[@johnpeter1999]

It's not our job to argue with this man necessarily. Our job is to recognize with God's help the part he plays in end-time Prophecy. This man's actions are a wake-up call for the entire church of God.

[@exRestoredCOG]

Definitely a wake up call.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Good luck with that. What kind of a god needs your money?

[@earesponsible]

We'll, it's been over 3 months since this message. Has ANY of the warning come to pass? This guy is a false prophet. None of the writers of the New Testament mention tithing.

[@exRestoredCOG]

Nope. He gave multiple dates in between then and now, too. Now he has walked back June 16. He is absolutely a false prophet as the Bible states and warns of.

[@johnpeter1999]

In Matthew 23 verse 23 Christ himself "DOES" command tithing. That is how he is going to do his final gospel work in the last days. I do agree with your assertion of the teaching in this video. This outrageous teaching is a proof of God's true church. Paul the Apostle was repeatedly warning the church about "THE DECEPTION OF FALSE MINISTERS WRONGFULLY TAKING THEIR MONIES" AS WELL AS THEIR BELONGINGS. This is prophecy being fulfilled again. Holding back tithes and offerings will weaken their power call mom until God corrects these issues.

[@markh4926]

Keeping track of a man's own money??? Sounds kind of evil.

[@exRestoredCOG]

@@markh4926 Exactly.

[@matrixIT1958]

Well, it's been a lot more days than 51 days, and nothing happened. I wouldn't listen to someone like this, who has just enough of the truth to get you off track and on to a different Jesus or a different Gospel.

[@exRestoredCOG]

@@matrixIT1958 Yep. He's what the Bible would call a false prophet!

[@ZFGMinistries]

I don't know where this 51 days is coming from.

[@exRestoredCOG]

Abib/Aviv 1 😅

[@JamesRichardWiley]

What if David is wrong? You have 51 days to ruin your life.

[@exRestoredCOG]

Yep...

[@guitarman122763]

Didnt 20% of his congregation get dragged away by one of his ministers this past fall,,if so ,,,thats alot of money!

[@exRestoredCOG]

You are talking about France I'm gathering. Approx 10-12 members left following the French minister out. More than half of the members in France. 👏🏻

[@exRestoredCOG]

Not only that, chunks have left from the US and the UK/EU as well. A LOT of money to lose!

[@deemonti2876]

Mr. Armstrong married his secretary after his wife Loma died. The marriage last 2 years. I don't know how many wives Mr. Pack had, but he did marry with Mr. Armstrong ex wife .

[@exRestoredCOG]

I couldn't find this information online.

[@fredgillespie5855]

Which wife was that, the Cherokee "virgin" with the 17 year old son that Herbert married in the 1970s?

[@mickey801]

Just like he is stealing from God's people

[@exRestoredCOG]

Absolutely. It's financial abuse and exploitation.

[@tylertucker2608]

He is the worst excuse alive. God doesn’t care about money, men care about money. God can talk with a booming voice any time he wants. Men have to buy air time.

[@exRestoredCOG]

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[@surewordofprophecyministri2227]

Rabid Wolf

[@exRestoredCOG]

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[@bettysavage5638]

& where exactly is this sell all in the Bible 🤷🏽‍♀️ 51 days & 4 years 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️ you better not do this or listen to this man none of this is anywhere in the Bible

[@exRestoredCOG]

He refers to the verse talking about how the people had all things common in Acts. David C. Pack butchers this scripture completely with the intention to get money from the members. Making merchandise of men. Unfortunately, it works. People do sell all and end up in financial ruin and don't get out of it for many years. 😤

[@johnpeter1999]

False ministers self interpret the scriptures . All the churches are doing it enlarger or lesser degrees. This teaching is reprehensible an outrageous. And yet this is happening in God's Church exactly like the first century. God will soon correct these issues. We need to seek God for patience until he does

[@bettysavage5638]

@@exRestoredCOG if at all I’m sure 👍🏾 sad tho very sad 😢 how gullible & naive people are & this man & others like him take advantage of them

[@deemonti2876]

Mr. Armstrong married his secretary after his first wife died. I believe Shirley is that woman.

[@exRestoredCOG]

Shirley was Herbert W. Armstrong's secretary. David C. Pack married her.

[@PatMerriman-eg7qg]

Something's wrong with you

[@exRestoredCOG]

There's a lot wrong with him yes.

[@johnpeter1999]

He is deceived and fulfilling end time prophecy.

[@RobertthefirstKing-jy1gp]

Don't be discouraged by naysayers. I've been studying scriptures since my mom died. And you're the one that taught me how to read scripture. And I've been following a timeline myself. Our timelines are almost identical. My problem is I have no one to converse with. About this, Answer me this question. When is the harvest of first fruits in 2025?