David Choe: No One Ever Wins a War

[@oxiderll8840]

This is why it's important to show up to your history class

[@BrownRecluse1738]

Because if you don't you'll show up and look a fool in front of a Joe Rogan

[@user-isntavailable]

I understand your point but if we think the history we were taught isn't skewed to make us, the US, to be the good guy, then we are naive. Not saying g this guy opinion is right, just saying I'd bet other countries see things much different than we are taught. "He who wins the wars, writes the history. His-story = History" - somebody smart I'm sure

[@yuktz3798]

So you really think, that you learn the real history in school?

[@user-isntavailable]

@@yuktz3798 that's what I got from his comment. I probably thought that samething back when I was in school. That's how indoctrination works. Teachers can't go telling us what really happened. Can't tell them we faked an incident in the Gulf of Tonkin to justify the mass slaughter of Vietnamese people. Can't tell them that we've had the CIA assassinate potentially good world leaders so that we could put the genocidal dictator in charge bc he will look after US's intrest. Or that we've rigged so many other countries elections that they could write the how to book on it. Or that our leaders allowed the free flow of drugs into this country to fund the Rebels in S. America. Could go on n on

[@B00STED.B]

@@user-isntavailable ofc history makes the US look better like in Germany and Japan, they don’t recount ww1 or ww2 history like we do, but that doesn’t mean we neglect the history at all 😭

[@gamedog8194]

My man watched a 45 min documentary on wars

[@krad1314]

more like a 4.5 minute youtube clip

[@FOF275]

It sounds deep until you think about it for two seconds

[@Pa1zan]

🤣🤣🤣

[@attackferrets]

So many years back we would have been imposing rules on Germany but we weren’t dickheads like them they still can’t own nukes tho

[@shaneg4383]

I hate shit like this. Fraudulent intellectual thought

[@davidambrose468]

1 second

[@zebedeesummers4413]

many people win in wars. It is rarely the people fighting but someone wins. People selling guns, people buying cheaper goods, people who have more funding because of conflict, and people who don't need to fear for their safety because enemies of where they live are weak, all these people win.

[@samthachamp5035]

“Germany started every world war” History texts:👁👄👁

[@jonasbrenk8324]

Not even startet but "start's"💀

[@samthachamp5035]

@@jonasbrenk8324 facts 🤣🤣

[@michaelvernon9459]

That isn't the point of this at all

[@samthachamp5035]

@@michaelvernon9459 ok

[@luk4s56]

didnt austrians start both wars tho? if i remember right

[@pitied3744]

"Germany starts every world war" Serbia and Austria: *wipes brow*

[@WarsmithThanatos]

My thought exactly.

[@E-Brightvoid]

Great Britain watching the Dutch Empire fall:😊😊😊 Great Britain watching the resulting collapse result in the rise of the Prussian and Austrians:😮😮😮

[@crazycutz8072]

Austria Roles Mustacehs... draws swords

[@olstar18]

@@Papucs06 I don't know if I'd blame them for the actions of a small group of radicals. Now the one I would blame are the diplomats who didn't think to tell the russians that they would be more than happy to guarantee that it would merely be a punitive attack with no territory gains since that is what they had to promise their own government to get the ok to attack.

[@olstar18]

@@Papucs06 The thing is russia was concerned with austria annexing serbian land but to get the war declaration to pass they had to agree that it was only punitive with no land to be taken by force which could have meant russia would have had no grounds to interfere taking away the direct threat that pressured germany into attacking. If the diplomats had simply told russia it would have been a small war that no one cared about.

[@bsseb2914]

The second he said Germany starts all world wars I knew that he's talking utter bullshit.

[@Svveet69]

Same here lol. Doesn't know shit. USA rebuilt Germany and had a huge impact on the rebuilding of Japan

[@chrissi.enbyYT]

The first was a powder keg, every nation wanted the war to end all wars. Germany lost and was deemed responsible, humiliating the nation and stealing the gold reserves, pushing germany to Hyperinflate their currency, having the debt burden and bad contract with the french. Because of this hummiliation, people rallied up and started WW2. So if we look back, germany didnt start shit, its just effect and result of nations beeing dicks and people beeing gullyable enough to follow these leaders

[@kennethfishman2191]

It is made to look as though Germany started it,In all likelihood they be blamed for the next one also .As soon as Germanys oil is cut off for long enough ,or for what ever reason,the third World War will begin in my opinion,.

[@chrissi.enbyYT]

@@kennethfishman2191 lmao u are lost

[@christiansauer7056]

USA rebuilt Germany?

[@stefannico]

Makes sense. Me, a German, everytime I eat sushi: Ah, the axis powers have won!🙄

[@user-fz3ip3ke8p]

This but unironically

[@Deadly_fox512]

I made a comment on another video stating that if you made a fusion restaurant off of the cuisines of the 3 major axis powers and one from the 3 major allied powers, the axis powers would have much better food. Lol

[@dr.bright3081]

@@Deadly_fox512 sir… you’re onto something! We shall open a restaurant and call it “Musso Hitlers”!

[@cartertran270]

I feel bad considering it’s arguable what actually started WWI it was bound to happen but to blame Germany is harsh. And one could argue that Allies caused WWII and the rise of Hitler with the Taxes and other sanctions they put on Germany.

[@Deadly_fox512]

@@dr.bright3081 no mention of Hirohito in it?! For shame. Lol

[@mornmorn4367]

"noone ever wins a war" 5 secs later "germany won"

[@imf1ipinitwi1dstyle]

“No one ever wins a war” “We drive their cars. They won in the end” lol

[@xxCrimsonSpiritxx]

economically speaking, these countries make more from selling cars than most other countries

[@dunbartonspartanz]

Germany and China own the majority of the worlds debt, when they decide to collect and people cant pay what happens?

[@dunbartonspartanz]

@@professionalschizo why not, because you say? And even if you are right, who says it will stay that way?

[@dunbartonspartanz]

@@professionalschizo it's not about THEIR indebted, they own the majority of the worlds debt, they purchased other countries debt.

[@dunbartonspartanz]

@@professionalschizo so why wouldnt they collect if it's not their citizens? Why do they want to own other peoples debt if they have no intention of doing anything...they're just being kind and if anyone's gonna drown in debt it'll be them...stop talking to me I didnt @ you in my original comment, you took it upon yourself to reply to me, and honestly you seem like you cant read or something so shut up now.

[@billybussey]

His understanding of history is about as good as his art.

[@fffwe3876]

i was like. if germany won, maybe Hitler is driving ford f150 and saying something? I dont think so.

[@PREDATORNINJA2]

@dig bick Austria-hungry started world war 1 though Germany was just backing them up as a ally and really if you want to get down to it it was actually the Serbian nationalist who started it by killing the heir to Austria-hungry

[@grassywasss6978]

@dig bick you have no idea what anyone here is talking about, just stop interrupting while the grown ups are talking.

[@deangreen2567]

@dig bick Clearly you’ve never heard of Gavrilo Princip or Franz Ferdinand, I’ll also stipulate that there haven’t been two world wars, there have been several, the crusades being common examples, also the Napoleonic wars were incredibly impactful on the world we have today.

[@spiritoflegend7483]

Dude stfu, you literally a reaction channel 💀

[@WhenAllMenDoubtYou]

Contradicting himself off the bat: “no one ever wins wars” “They’ve won in the end”.

[@Liz-dragon-street.]

Nah he said .. someone told him that nobody ever win wars ...... (but) he comes afther that with his side of the coin

[@WhenAllMenDoubtYou]

@@Liz-dragon-street. no he’s explaining that we Americans thought we won WW2 but ultimately they won through influence and economics. If we both won how are there no winners in war?

[@B00STED.B]

@@WhenAllMenDoubtYou I’m still confused as to how, even after the war. Germany went through one of the strongest economical setbacks of its country because of WW1 and WW2. Just because a country drives 1-2 cars from your region doesn’t mean you win anything frankly. What influence does your country hold because another country drives a car you make so you lost a giant war, lost millions of dollars, lost 5.3 million German soldiers, damn near through your country into another Great Depression but it’s ok cause they drive 2 of our car models 50 years later.

[@B00STED.B]

@@WhenAllMenDoubtYou it would be like the US invading Japan and being stopped by other countries in a war, expending troops, money and assets just to lose and barely have assets for our own people but say well we didn’t lose that because Japan drives dodge challengers it doesn’t make any sense.

[@samshide611]

"You never actually win a war because these 2 countries that we were in a war once now make good cars and a lot of people drive them"

[@cam5816]

This dude probably asks his daughter what she learned in kindergarten today so he can take notes

[@johng180]

Thats funny!!

[@TheJTcreate]

Yeah, its a pretty shallow outlook on history.

[@burnzy3210]

what she learned in "kindergarten" LOL

[@FWReacts]

What about the homelessness he talked about ?

[@thedutchess1436]

Right, just yo say that america won the freaking 2 nd world war, I mean really?! What?! And Lexus IS a German brand now?! Germany had no clue🤣🤣, can’t believe Joe just never corrected him, makes me question Joe now..

[@Neillusion]

"driving their cars" = losing a war so deep

[@RaveGamer519]

Millions died and now we are in business with them. Its like you fighting a guy talking shit to your girl, you die and 5 years later they hookup

[@Neillusion]

@@RaveGamer519 thats bit of a reach

[@rojayreid908]

@@RaveGamer519 they won in the market world and engineering.

[@Cyclonus24]

@@RaveGamer519 Yeah but they are not the same people. We had to win the war first before ever getting in bed with them.

[@McKae00]

Germany runs the EU...

[@LearningHistoryTogether]

"Germany started both wars" Austria: 👀

[@dimoffcut6460]

Serbia

[@VascoDaGamaOtRupcha]

Actually, Russia started the first one. At least escalated it from insignificant local conflict in Serbia to a global war.

[@dimoffcut6460]

@@VascoDaGamaOtRupcha a serbian gang called the black hand gang killed the austrian prime minister frans Ferdinand and his wife so austria were pissed off and declared war on serbia , because germany was allied with austria , they also declared war on serbia , and because russia and serbia were allied , russia declared war on austria and germany

[@VascoDaGamaOtRupcha]

@@dimoffcut6460 Almost correct, except that the Germans didn't declare a war on Serbia, just assured the Austrians of support in case of escalation. My point was, that the conflict was small and local and could have quickly subsided, but the Russians turned it into a global all encompassing war. (Which they miserably lost btw...)

[@theyreEatingthedogs]

@@VascoDaGamaOtRupcha which led to the final nail in the Tsardom coffin. Plus they had been embarrased by the Japanese a decade before the start of WW1.

[@thomasel9171]

This dude is the type to speak like an expert about things he doesnt understand

[@willmurphy7513]

Yeah fr

[@qqqq986]

This is what happens when you try too hard to have “intelligent perspective” but you’re out of your depth.

[@thedarkking32]

Japan is better than USA

[@jamalahmad9178]

🤣🤣🤣😅

[@yeetuscreedus6028]

But he was still right, yes the first half was stupid about Germany starting every war, but everything else was right, no?

[@kalebball5144]

@@yeetuscreedus6028 Unless you are a Jewish captive in nazi Germany when the allies saved them. Id call that a win considering. Think before you type.

[@dawnygaming5263]

@@yeetuscreedus6028 What about the German engineers who were taken to the US after the war and they helped building nasa or the German technologies used to propel the rockets. If anyone won, was the US. The Germans build some of the best mechanical technologies and has nothing to do with the war, it in their 'blood' to be good at engineering. Would be crazy to mix science with feelings, its a win for all humanity for the Germans to keep developing their technologies.

[@blackarab9121]

“Nobody wins a war” Few moments later “They won at the end”

[@3ico592]

The point is that wether a country’s future benefits from a war is sometimes unrelated to their success in said war.

[@Heartandthehead]

@@3ico592 This isn't some sort of profound thought though.

[@3ico592]

@@Heartandthehead I agree. But it doesn’t have to be profound to be true

[@SuspiciousFrog69]

"They won because we drive their cars"

[@KReeMMeeNAL]

LMAO, logic level 100

[@gOaTcrackalac88]

And now Joe Rogan believes he's learned something.

[@a564-c3q]

Even worse, a part of his audience as well, and his audience is huge. Man, some of Rogan's guests are just so awful.

[@GrubKiller436]

@@a564-c3q Speak for yourself. I've listened to the podcast, but just because I listened to it doesn't mean I agree with everything.

[@a564-c3q]

@@GrubKiller436 "...a part of his audience..."

[@GrubKiller436]

@@a564-c3q You act like he's indoctrinating people and should be kicked or never be allowed on the Rogan podcast just because you suck at seperating wheat from chaff.

[@concernedcitizen4933]

What he says in this clip is so unoriginal. Everybody has probably heard a variation of this Numerous times before.

[@AdventClover]

You don’t need to win war, you need to survive a war.

[@imCurveee]

This is what happens when you get all your news/history from social media

[@tekajikuyalkrul5111]

Fr mate, he should go check to old German map and see how big it was

[@timparker4160]

When you didn't study for the test but you fill it up with wrong answers to make it look like you did.

[@KReeMMeeNAL]

If only you can add smart background music in your tests😆

[@meatwoodflac4526]

Sometimes not talking is the smartest thing you can do

[@user-ov8cu5ff2y]

I now fully understand why my teacher gets pissed at me when I don't write a thesis

[@Han-Solo459]

I just lost 30 IQ points....

[@lemmetellusum4884]

So you're at 0 now?

[@fabiokaya202]

@@lemmetellusum4884 😂😂😂

[@zxc303]

@@lemmetellusum4884 -30

[@sir-reynauld-the-kleptomaniac]

Unfortunate. It’s hard to filter out brain rot from a algorithm

[@sultanhanga]

@@zxc303 -60

[@kingkazuma2239]

Had us in the first half. Thought he was gonna say war isn't about who's right but who's left but he went to "we drive their cars and watch anime"

[@Chuis-gangster]

watch anime🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@GreyGrim]

yea US created anime, we owe US alot 😂

[@achilles7726]

When he said that no one ever wins a war i was with him because i thought he meant that every side loses alot but after that it was just weird 😅

[@MicahMicahel]

in the old days they would blatantly take plunder and women.

[@Dr34mDr]

He’s mainly saying it spurs trauma for generations and is nothing but blind misery.

[@beyoutillfull9695]

Says Achilles lmao

[@achilles7726]

@@beyoutillfull9695 would be weirder if it came from Ares :D

[@abdullahansari437]

Thing is even that original message isn't true. Some times it is such as for most major powers in ww1 and ww2. However, other times it isnt true. Like the USA during both world wars. Winning those wars contributed to the US becoming a superpower and the richest country on earth at the time at the forefront of science and quality of life. There are many more wars with victors like Japan comprehensively defeating the Russian empire before ww1 or Germany embarrassing France in the last war they fought before ww1. I could go on and on, such as Ceaser's conquests of Gaul, Rome defeating Carthage, contributing to it to become one of the strongest empires ever seen and many more. Unfortunately, sometimes war really is a net positive for a nation.

[@jkterjters]

I’m not very well versed in history but even I was like, “you’re gonna have to elaborate on how all those things are connected, man.”

[@pavornocturnuspasha]

The best part was “Germany is very small, tiny”

[@Quitumbe954]

@bruh meme it's the 7th largest country in Europe tho

[@edixonvc5101]

@@Quitumbe954 Europe is small

[@Deadpoolion]

@bruh meme Well, it's because Canada is the 2nd largest country in the world after Russia. If you measure the world by the provinces of Russia or Canada, all countries except the top 20 are tiny. Even India, which is the top 7, is 3 times smaller than Canada and 5 times smaller than Russia

[@Deadpoolion]

@@Quitumbe954 Europe is tiny (except for Russia).Saudi Arabia( 12th in the world in terms of size)is 6 times larger than Germany, but Russia is 8 times larger than Saudi Arabia (about 45 times larger than Germany)

[@Quitumbe954]

@bruh meme you are European i guarantee you're not indigenous Canadian

[@gravytrain614]

I ate sushi today in Australia. "Oh no Japan won the war"

[@Anglo_Browza]

🍕= Roman Empire 😂

[@SaltareObscurum]

Ottoman Empire wo bc we eat Döner. China won bc there is a China Restaurant ever 3 feet. Damn this Guy Took some Drugs or something

[@clsanchez77]

Shit, had some last night in the US. And I thought the British won when we lowered our flags out of respect to the monarch.

[@Anglo_Browza]

@@clsanchez77 did you guys really fly flags at half mast when the Queen died?? If so that’s that’s very honourable.

[@shawnpitman876]

@@Anglo_Browza F the queen fly them at double mast.

[@ignazstaudinger5361]

I cant stress enough how important it is read books when talking about history. It really helps not embarrasing yourself on yt

[@_Wai_Wai_]

Where do you find these "books"?

[@ignazstaudinger5361]

@@_Wai_Wai_ In Schools, Bookstores and Libraries. Why do you ask? Do you want me to reconmend you some books about the origins of the two world wars?

[@marchermanski2201]

In elementary school it was teached that germany 100% alone started ww1. 20 years later they teach a different Story. PS everybody who got deeper in this topic knows that every big Nation in Europe was pro ww2. Noone tried to stop it.

[@ignazstaudinger5361]

@@marchermanski2201 School History is quite often oversimplified. Thats fine, they are for children. Its not wrong that Germany started WWI, its just not the complete truth. And its definitely Wrong that everybody was „pro world war“. The Polish most definitely wherent. The British also not. Nevill Chaimberlains (British PM during WWII) policy of that Time is even called appeasement. The dutch where mostly pacifistic and in France where also many Pacifists during that Time (a french Anti War slogan from 1939: „Why die for Danzig“) Danzig being the german Wargoal against Poland.

[@marchermanski2201]

@@ignazstaudinger5361 lol...

[@Frutoses]

This guy is living in an alternate universe.

[@robertvel4051]

I mean, wars have no winners

[@crazymage9636]

@@robertvel4051 they infact do. The Vietnam war for example, the North Vietnamese absolutely won that war.

[@Rounduphorsekick]

@@crazymage9636 yeah but at what cost? Thousand of lives lost for what exactly? But agree the winners of war are the rich black point, because someone owns the company tht make weapons and all tht stuff..those r the winners

[@crazymage9636]

@@Rounduphorsekick many different winners and looser on both sides

[@danielchalhoub2618]

he lives in the Crackverse

[@trentthegoat3793]

"Germany started every world war" - Statement immediately loses all validity

[@jasonmannaquin8837]

He was generalizing bro don’t be pompous

[@HeliouHyios]

Whats wrong about this statement? There were two world wars both started by Germany.... Greets from Germany

[@Medhusalem]

@@HeliouHyios what an utterly moronic statement, considering Austria-Hungary started the first world war and Germany joined in as per a treaty. You could even say that the Serbs did trigger the war by killing Franz Ferdinand II.. German education really seems to go down the drain these days...

[@rocksteady140]

@@HeliouHyios Germany didnt start WW1.

[@gra564]

@@rocksteady140 neither ww2

[@rizkypratama807]

“We drive their cars” “Um I want to be paid in USD”

[@Annonymous0283745]

Choe is that guy who sounds all intellectual until you start sobering up

[@NastyNate18B]

Not only is he a pathological liar, he’s extremely ill informed.

[@fraserquibell6012]

Well Germany and Japan lost ww2 but they're far more advanced better societies and better standard of living.

[@brad4759]

@@fraserquibell6012 I disagree heavily with that statement

[@brad4759]

@@fraserquibell6012 where do you live? Like country

[@fraserquibell6012]

@@brad4759 Florida USA

[@fraserquibell6012]

@@brad4759 I also have a degree in 20th century history from a good Uni in GB

[@bravokilo8478]

He's talking out of his ass. This guy knows nothing about this subject yet feels the need to share his clearly lukewarm opinion.

[@khalil8043]

Oh so Florida man has an opinion now? Lmao your country is overrated 😂 your whole fucking culture is shit, Germany is a far better country to live in , and don't get me started on Japan, so I think you need to pull your head our of your ass, ppl who called US home won nothing from those wars.

[@ninjabreaddman]

your opinion is kinda lukewarm tho

[@matthewerspamer6274]

“The operation was a success, but the patient died”

[@Gazkar_Adi]

Theres no failed operations Only living patient or dead body

[@TheMilkMan8008]

"No progress ever came from war, Only a false sense of increase"

[@mckinneyguy]

Whenever I see this guy pop up. All I can think of is the Lion from Wizard of Oz

[@demonpandagang]

This is the winner

[@JesusChristSaves.]

Haha

[@michelerussell5190]

Was just about to post it, lol. Immediately saw it 😂

[@Boeing737800100]

Bwahahaha

[@k.k8791]

Or that thing from star wars

[@cyrusbm]

Glad to see the cowardly lion from oz is still doing well these days

[@edwinamendelssohn5129]

Ikr

[@EUM_NEMESIS]

"Germany starts both World Wars." Me, a german looking at Austria and Serbia: "Ya sure 'bout that mate?"

[@ItachiUchiha-yc9nv]

Hitler war zwar ein österreicher hat aber dann trotzdem in deutschland gelebt somit war er deutscher ;)

[@isjjcjw]

This has me cracking up 😂😂😂 those two fuck sticks get off easy in the history books

[@Deadpoolion]

@GoldenKnightmare Generally it is not. Read about the July ultimatum of Austria-Hungary to Serbia, which Serbia fulfilled 9 out of 10 points. Mobelization in Russia went after the announcement of the Serbian war. Now we know from the archives that Germany was going to start a war even if Russia cancels the mobelization. The Austrian-Serbian war did not technically start World War I. Just as they do not consider the beginning of World War 2 in Spain or in China, or Czechoslovakia. The First World Germany (and its allies) will announce the war of the Russian Empire (allied with France and Britain). 2 world Germany (and its allies) declares war on Poland (allied with France and Britain)

[@Hyporama]

Why Serbia?

[@Nebrophonus93]

​@@Hyporama because a Bosnian working for a Serbian organization assassinated the Arch Duke in Sarajevo

[@zzospreyzz55]

When you don't understand why a war is fought, this makes sense.

[@dakneegrow.]

he left out the part that his friend was high asf when he told him this lmao

[@pauliewalnuts2527]

Germany did not start the first world war. That would be russia really for escalating the austrian and serbian conflict.

[@jsisjdndnjwjejejjs2342]

Technically yeah, but Germans were aggressive enough to take advantage of the hyped up situation, which resulted most likely in the Eskalation. They didn't start it, but they put the fire in to mske it a world War

[@frogntoad3134]

Saves me the time to write this one out thanks

[@frogntoad3134]

@@jsisjdndnjwjejejjs2342 no idiot the defensive pacts by the countries in Europe escalated it to a world War-_____-

[@CorrosiveColin]

Well to put it in Layman's terms: Germany/ Austria: Hey you need to apologize for killing our Duke! Give us reparations! Serbia: We didn't do shit! Piss off! Russia: I second that notion and provide another piss off. Slav gang for life.

[@zealeos1744]

@@jsisjdndnjwjejejjs2342 Germany defended their allies who were being taken advantage of. From my personal perspective, the Union was the villains of the First World War. Just look at the policies they enforced when it was over against Germany and tell me that they weren’t vile and evil. No wonder they had an uprising. But we don’t talk about that cause “we” were the victors which means we were the good guys cause that’s how history works.

[@TheKingmanthe1]

Driving countries cars is not related to the war… It’s not like the moment they lost everyone was forced to drive their vehicles. The reason we drive their vehicles is because we helped build their countries back up and create a better society that is capitalistic. The leadership in those countries were replaced…

[@demnbrown]

And that's completely disregarding how many American cars are sold in Japan and or Germany

[@farid.2972]

@@demnbrown You right the you see so many Fords in Germany. Especially the Kuga and the Focus.

[@DevSharma-yg6jk]

You don't get it bro they lost the war but it didn't effected them but America starts a war in 3rd world country and American wins than that country gets affected

[@Goldn177]

I don’t know if you get what he’s saying. Like yeah, sure. “We” won, but literally at what cost? I used to be all “hoorah” and wanted to be a marine since I was 12. Till I learned WHY we went to war with these countries. Why we invade, yeah sure, you steal and send a civilian airliner into one of the largest buildings in one of the largest countries (militarily), you’re gonna get fucked by said country. But the amount of loss, amount of death. The rapes, the mindless killing of civilians in their homes, just being obliterated by bombs made by Americans. Just like us, they had no part in that war. It. Is. Fucked. Go ahead. Make your comparisons. But just as Russia drops phosphorus on civilian homes, we dropped grenades in living rooms. At the end of the day, we are all fucking human. We are all living beings made out of the exact same shit. Minus all the processed American bullshit that we willingly poison ourselves with everyday. There’s no winning, you simply cannot win if you’re killing your own. Russian, American, Chinese. I don’t give a fuck where you’re from, unless you’re a threat to an active society, you’re the same as me. And at the end of the day, the end of our lives, we ALL go and face the same. exact. thing. Death And i dont know about you, but I’m not one to want to feel responsible for cutting someone’s journey in half while I continue on mine.

[@kevindavis5966]

@@DevSharma-yg6jk WWI affected Germany significantly. Look up the Weimar Republic. It's the primary reason there was a WWII. You don't think two atomic bombs being dropped on them affected Japan? Japan would have taken decades longer to rebuild if the Allies (largely the US) hadn't helped them rebuild. You think they'd be dominating the auto market right now?

[@CONNIEMALAN]

War doesn't determine what is right. It only determines who is left

[@mattymojo]

This is a very very simplistic view on who "wins" a war, this is the type of discussion I used to have when I was 12.

[@dusannestorovic5699]

I would agree that the overall loss outweighs the "victory" in a war but this guy's view of everything is just idiotic..

[@Sikanda.]

The parallels he draws are pretty reductive. To permanently boycott any German products wouldn't prove any point regarding 1939-45's outcome and be incompatible with international relations and peace 😑

[@B3RyL]

"Japan lost the war." "Oh yeah? Then why is half the population in the west addicted to anime?"

[@benmaghsoodi2067]

How can someone with this level of intelligence manage his daily life?

[@GregLemons]

Because what he lacks in history knowledge he makes up for in common sense, personality and in the end of all the high school subjects don’t matter.

[@MamasFunkyMonkey]

Because he doesn't have "this level" hes delusional and repeats what is said to him he has no idea what hes saying hes a lemming

[@crazymage9636]

@@GregLemons seems a trend of the modern age, ignoring history and facts because you feel like it today.

[@kyunikoi]

@@GregLemons Sure, if you don't know high-school subjects that's fine. But maybe don't talk about your view on them when you're as ignorant as can be

[@GregLemons]

@@kyunikoi People make mistakes and form thoughts about things. It’s what we do, it’s called curiosity

[@edgar-kk6qb]

Bros high as fuck Lmfaoo

[@AkWar9]

When you’ve been detached from the reality for far too long.

[@sk8nchill52]

Lol right. Both sides get fucked up in wars. We get it. But the winner gets fucked up less, that’s why they’re the winner. And both sides recover unless they’re absolutely annihilated by one side. SoooOooO yeah gimme another Toyota I like those cars they last forever thanks Japan 🤙🏻

[@sk8nchill52]

@Mr. Melendez no, I get what he’s saying. But there are obvious benefits to being the victor. He’s basically stating* the obvious like no one understands that both sides get fucked up. Everyone understands that. But it’s still better to win than lose every single time

[@sk8nchill52]

@Mr. Melendez You’re making the notion that the people starting the wars are the ones that are always winning. This is not true. I would say the world as a whole profited when World War II was over and hitler was dead. What if we *just allowed him to continue his conquest? What if he won? War is not just about taking people’s land or stuff. It is about ending evil forces in the world. Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of peace, I’m all for it. I live a very peaceful life myself. That all changes when someone brings war to you and wants nothing to do with peace.

[@sk8nchill52]

@Mr. Melendez haha I just don’t agree with the entirety of what he is saying. Does everyone lose SOMETHING in war? Yes. Do the winners come out losing less? Yes. Can countries recover after war? Of course. And some never recover. Some go away forever. Some wars sacrifice more than others. His statement is too generalized and it’s trying to say that everyone is loses and war isn’t necessary so just don’t do it. He’s right, as long as everyone agrees to peace. Peace might be “give me all your resources and we’ll remain peaceful.” In his example of us driving German cars now, imagine how many German cars we’d be driving if Germany won the war haha

[@sk8nchill52]

@Mr. Melendez We can hold two truths at one time, it doesn’t have to be “either or”. 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@mascwintle2968]

Small countires thay dominate everyother country :UK enters chat

[@pipedgolf4634]

Nope that’s just England that steals everything they want including chunks of countries

[@sergiofabrietti9960]

"Makes sense?" "No"

[@nexusinc.4367]

The psychological damage caused by WW2 will never leave humanity. It's a forever scar that we just have to deal with now

[@johnmileso21]

It’s almost like the expectation is that if someone looses a war, they should never be allowed redemption? They can’t exist in any way? After the world wars, were able to force Germany to use their superior engineering for good; to make cars instead of weapons. I’d call that a pretty significant win.

[@goodcomrade2949]

Not to mention they are both nato.

[@thethirdjegs]

@@goodcomrade2949 japan cant join nato.

[@dusannestorovic5699]

I don't even know what he was trying to say here Were we supposed to kill every last german alive to win the war??

[@Zumbum01]

The only ones preaching this dont understand how absolutely screwed we would be if we "lost"

[@nuriyya9566]

The sad thing is that he is so confident about it 🤣

[@makaveli89cm77]

lol

[@lukakaps9548]

"someone was explaining to me the other day, war sucks."

[@TwinsInVancouver]

Austria : I'm not here

[@MotionSickness17]

“Germany starts every world war” Serbia: o_o

[@dusannestorovic5699]

😐 aye bro why you doing us like that..

[@AnteFuerst]

Yeah, but Germany has his own part for the escalation.

[@jebosamvasjako]

Serbia didn't start WW1. Shows how uneducated you are. Europe was a powder keg waiting to blow since emerging powers such as united Germany wanted their place in the new world in terms of colonies. Imperialistic tensions started ww1. Also, Serbia had nothing to do with the assasination of the archduke Ferdinand. It was done by a group of diverse peoples that were from Bosnia and were sick of the anexation by Austro-Hungary.

[@matycer1898]

@@AnteFuerst german escalation was like "Austria-Hungary handle it please. You have all my support I just need to enjoy my every year cruise"

[@sasakosanovic1043]

Hahahaha, Jessus you are even dumber than he is. But I expect no less from a Brit.

[@Tonyrg1988]

This is what happens when you think too much

[@maximilianavdeev7363]

People that don’t have a real jobs and just say around and do drugs and talk to cameras all day have a lot to think about and nothing to actually do. The problem with about 90% of society today is that they don’t do anything of value they just talk and walk in circles.

[@FannySMUDGE]

You disagree?

[@dawnygaming5263]

@@maximilianavdeev7363 I agree, its easy to lose yourself and get self-absorbed into the illusion that you got things figured out when you contribute with nothing to society.

[@FalonGrey]

@@FannySMUDGE Any rational person would. Aside from the point that Germany didn't actually start World War I, World War II itself was not about wiping out all of Germany or Japan. This guy is applying a medieval style of thinking to modern day wars, especially since the goal of most modern wars wasn't to wipe out the entire country, but to force, or stop a certain action taking place. If you disagree with this, please point me to a modern-day war you would like to use as an example.

[@connorbarr7314]

I swear I had this conversation with my dealer

[@Dcll8451]

Wars aren’t fought to win. They’re fought for money and influence

[@redberries8039]

'no one ever wins wars' British Empire has entered the chat

[@suzannebaxter2888]

Thank you didn't we just and we are smaller than they are. I do not drive german cars. I ride Triumph bikes

[@anthonyz1327]

We lost because we use a german product?

[@gilwillia]

Someone should point out that the alternative option in 1939 was rather worse than driving a car.

[@ganderson14]

Duhhh

[@a564-c3q]

That dude has absolutely no clue what he's talking about. Plus, things don't even make sense in itself, as you pointed out. I'm so glad and thankful all the top comments realized that things are way different than the guy in the video tells them to be.

[@DontWatchAdsJustRefresh]

JA

[@DontWatchAdsJustRefresh]

AUTO GEHT BRUMM BRUMM

[@thoughtgaming492]

To say people don’t win wars is to ignore the reason many people go to war. You literally live in a country who’s freedoms were won in war. There are winners and losers in war, but the winners still pay a heavy toll for their victory.

[@Typhanos]

Baby's first philosophy thought

[@KINGMARC0]

test

[@jerrygibson2689]

He looks like the lion on the Wizard of Oz.

[@lovablealexa7839]

Buuuuuaaaajhhhhhhahahahahahahahhaha I can't 🤣🤣🤣 and he does now that you pointed out!!! Aaahhhahahahaha omg

[@carlosnevarez4003]

Dude, I'm in tears over here!!! 😂☠️🤣

[@runookiomah169]

My thoughts exactly

[@aaronpugh3396]

"we defeated the wrong enemy" - General Patton

[@proudtitanicdenier4300]

Every single nazi is gay

[@tenaciousx00]

nazis lol

[@ajkalwaysneedsmoreinfo.576]

Yep

[@degenetron7590]

Nazis definitely should be defeated, fuck em, but we should've also taken on the stinky soviets whilst we were at it. If we had russia and china on our side during the 50s, we'd probably have world peace rn. Instead they're starting shit rn

[@p3llaeon]

Straight from the "I am fourteen and this is deep" subreddit

[@colterwebb6382]

Carthage feels much better knowing Rome didn't really win the punic wars

[@dropit7694]

Someone’s been watching Oversimplified

[@colterwebb6382]

@@dropit7694 hahaha actually just saw they posted punic wars videos like yesterday. Imma try and get those watched today. Nah I just always think of star ship troopers the book when ever I hear anti militaristic arguments. And this particularly reminded me of the scene early in the book when the teacher is asking his class about violence and basically says the same thing I did when a student comments that violence never solves anything.

[@nigelraporam6917]

Yeah the Romans razed carthage to do ground but carthage still won

[@PeterJavi]

Well the first and second Punic war are actually great examples of this statement, if you completely ignore his explanation. Rome was stuck in the first war for over 2 decades and really went far to keep rebuilding fleets in the first war, all for a few islands. In the second war they threw an insane amount of legions at Hannibal. They won those wars in the strategical sense, but it sure wasn't pretty.

[@colterwebb6382]

@@PeterJavi ya but that wasn't my mans point. My man said that no one actually wins a war. That the losers are actually the winners if cultural aspects are adopted by the winners. This like goods and products. Well sure the Romans did learn to sail because of the puni, but it's not like Roman became punic is culture or practice after that. Yes the wars were long and the bloody, but carthago no longer delendum est. And if the Romans chose not to remember it existed there is very little chance we would remember they existed either.

[@jeremiahm3765]

"No one ever wins a war." "They won."

[@AkWar9]

🤣🤣

[@LixxLixx]

He really needs to get better at telling stories

[@ce5890]

Yeah, I often wonder how did he end up getting this gig

[@justinwatson6932]

@@ce5890 because he is interesting

[@LixxLixx]

@@justinwatson6932 like um well like well like and like i like don’t like think so

[@snesie7172]

Listen to dvdasa

[@mariabrar6290]

People who financed the war, companies that make the weapons, etc. all win in wars. The people lose.

[@brandonburns5249]

“We will not stop until there is a Tiguan in every driveway!” - Adolph Hitler

[@RigelOrionBeta]

"Nobody ever wins wars." "Germany won the wars."

[@controversiallyhonest570]

Germany sympathizer ya like ze little piggies From shriek you can eat all my fake kitten

[@historyandfactskingdom1961]

Yeah this bro ain’t know what he’s talking about

[@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894]

Then live under the nazis

[@marechalsaintcyr7946]

Must be amazing to see the world in such simple terms. I know more than he does on the topic yet I can guarantee you he's happier than I am

[@whxthefucksmx]

Ignorance is bliss

[@kelvinb16]

Japan and Germany both have a higher standard of living than the US today though. I understand he's incorrect about Germany starting both world wars but I think he's getting at the trade offs after the win that ultimately really hurt the US. Germany had their war debt squashed and became the leader of the EU and have low crime, low addiction rates and are continuing to thrive socially and economically which he was getting at with the german cars and the US soldiers mental health issues and big pharmaceutical companies exploiting that

[@RossIsFine]

"Only the dead have seen the end of war." Plato

[@FacingWorld07]

Is not about knowing sh!t, it is about sounding like you know sh!t.

[@harrywhybro4997]

Germany a tiny county 🤯 It bloody well isnt

[@redbullasdf]

Yes it is

[@bradlymacy4108]

Yes it is

[@LixxLixx]

it is though look at it on a map

[@jjllama2305]

It is small in land size and population, compared to US, China, India

[@sora64444]

It's really small tho

[@seasgarage]

"Can't afford a nice car so she named her daughter alexis"

[@soju3oy]

Lexus is owned by Toyota, and Toyota is a Japanese company.

[@seasgarage]

Precisely. Infiniti is made by Nissan, which is a Jay a pan company.

[@possibilities2934]

No one ever wins any confrontation.

[@thomasjefferson6334]

"We defeated the wrong enemy" - US General Patton

[@libertusprimus]

"War doesnt decide who's right, only who's left"

[@zxZethxz]

Not when who’s left profited so much off that war they became the biggest arms dealer in the world, even today and becomes a world superpower. US is fact that there’s definitely winners in war.

[@wit6665]

He has so many points but they're all in the wrong places

[@joelgrosschmidt5507]

“Germany starts every war” Mongoria: o_o

[@samalander88]

-_- *

[@Spspspspspspsps]

German starts every world war.

[@Sure_You_Betcha]

@@Spspspspspspsps thats simply not true... ww1 was literally started by Serbia and Russia, or Austria depending on how you wanna interpret the historical data. Germany was just blamed as they were the biggest power in the central powers. And if you wanna get way more technical, the allied powers caused WW2 as well due to their blatantly unfair treatment of Germany after ww1. But thats a very strong technicality, as that still required significant actions to be taken upon germanys part.

[@Spspspspspspsps]

@@Sure_You_Betcha he said, Not me, mr history. Chill

[@Sure_You_Betcha]

@@Spspspspspspsps well... Now you know I guess lol.

[@kaiwanmansur3242]

I wish I was as stupid as him, he must have a really good life.

[@jacobpunke1269]

Considering that the Allies learned from WWI, they helped to rebuild these nations and make them stable so they would not need or want to fight another war.

[@Bloodydemise]

"There's no such thing as a good war kiddo." -Greg Universe

[@PrayedForYou]

"War is a racket"

[@randomtime6308]

“Nobody ever wins war” Something I learned from A.O.T

[@randomtime6308]

@Levi Chicwown interesting. I love the negative comment 👍 keep up the unnecessary hate, the rest of your miserable life will reflect your sad character

[@JC-dy7tf]

Choices...'I'm sure to get a heart, a home, a brain, the noive'

[@Kelso540]

This makes me wish I saw a Japanese restaurant called, "Axis Sushi."

[@johnthompsonnunu2556]

He’s source “somebody “

[@gavinbauer574]

My last brain cell just died watching this.

[@carlosnevarez4003]

Man... I love reading the comments on KZbin 🤣☠️😂

[@ketansuvarna3336]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@styx1362]

"The war never, the battlefield just change." Teemo. It's a game quote but still true

[@AmateurBarbarian]

“Pearl Harbor didn’t work out so we got you with tape decks.” -Joe Takagi, Die Hard (1988)

[@Goetsby45]

It's NOT the war but what you do in the time of peace, that establishes your position in the world.