David Davis: Sweden's pandemic response arguably better than Britain's lockdowns

David Davis on the conclusion from the scathing report which found the UK's Covid response was one of the UK's worst health failures.
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[@saltnessmonster]

Given the UK are seeing businesses fail, mental health down the pan and the NHS is backlogged I think Sweden won

[@stephenobrien5909]

Won? Is this a game? The world lost because it was fooled into this mass hysteria that we aere all in danger. Nothing could be further from the truth as the stats show. 99.98% recovery rate, and most people don't even know thay have had it. Add to this most people who tested positive went home and self isolated withNO symptoms. Total and utter BS. Then you say mental health down the pan, to mention nothing of the cost, then why were these questions not asked to this man?

[@jeanettecollis5653]

@@stephenobrien5909 I agree. This is nothing to do with health. Pure propaganda and nudge. Disgraceful.

[@stephenobrien5909]

@Peter Stark The world lost including you who seems to be gloating.

[@stephenobrien5909]

@Peter Stark back your "fact" up with stats then mate

[@lukebrown997]

Arguably? No. It is definitely better, I pick freedom and personal responsibility over tyranny any day of the week

[@robertadowns217]

Also, Christopher Chope MP, spoke in the Commons about the Yellow card and the growing numbers of deaths and adverse effects from the Vs. He was largely ignored! Again disgraceful!!!

[@timcomley3241]

Calm down

[@freedomfighter5335]

All the experts signing the Barrington Declaration have also been ignored... but when it's about an agenda.... only those delivering the correct narrative continually get unlimited airtime.

[@barbaraneville5036]

@bryan low Immunity gained by having Covid is far superior to a vaccine that just works on the spike protein

[@TheSecurdisc]

We all knew what the Swedes knew.

[@ancietman]

Sweden didn't panic and came out no worse than other countries that locked down. The bonus for them they did not trash their economy because of Covid.

[@dixiedoos3512]

They didn't have the deaths likeUK

[@LSD04]

@@dixiedoos3512 died for any reason within 28 days of a positive test =lies

[@LSD04]

@bryan low and how many have and will die due to lockdowns? How big is the waiting list again?

[@hunchanchoc8418]

@bryan low What about Cuomo? Of course if only Corbyn had been PM, it would all have been handled totally expertly. Funny how hindsight is always 20:20 .

[@annedonnellan6876]

Or mental health issues

[@benamos2878]

It's not arguably better, it is obviously better, by miles. None of these people, MPs, Lords or Civil Servants should be running the country, they should be run out of it.

[@monsieurlewop]

This report seems to have been predicated on the assumption that lockdown is the only option, so the question is how soon and how hard. But why? Lockdowns have never been used before. What changed and who changed it.

[@terryreknaw6152]

The WEF and the Rockefeller lockstep document written in 2010. There's obviously a plan to destroy small business. This is a takeover and a vaaax agenda. The document actually praises China.

[@freedomfighter5335]

The UK ditched its own preplanned response and followed China's ffs... criminal... but on who's orders???

[@terryreknaw6152]

@@freedomfighter5335 Klaus Schwab's and Gill Bates I suspect. Also the WHO changed pandemic status in 2018. One of infection rather than deaths. Anyone with the flu will now be treated as a leper.

[@robertathomson-mccall5169]

@@terryreknaw6152 0

[@monsieurlewop]

@bryan low Perhaps you should stop using your brain if all it can do is invent things.

[@barrywalsh7926]

What about the negative effects of lockdown? Many other diseases were left undiagnosed and untreated. There will be many premature deaths as a result. The suicide rate has increased. Will these additional deaths be counted in the coronavirus statistics?

[@dalecrocker3213]

The current UK death rate is around 17% above the five year average for the time of year. Less than half can be attributed directly to covid. Covid will go away, more or less, but these other deaths - caused by lockdowns - will continue to mount year by year.

[@dalecrocker3213]

It's already happening. More than half of excess deaths now are due to non-covid causes.

[@dalecrocker3213]

The UK death rate is currently about 17% above the five year average for the time of year. Covid deaths account for only about half of this number.

[@derekc6445]

Hospitals get extra funding if Covid is mentioned on the death certificate. I'd like to know why ?

[@Nick7901962]

The negative effects of lockdown are far lesser than the negative effects of mass covid spread sorry

[@israeldiegoriveragenius2th164]

No to discriminatory vaccine passports.

[@Nick7901962]

Yes to sensible vaccine passports which will save lives

[@Stormcrow_1]

@@Nick7901962 The 'vaccine' doesn't stop people from catching or spreading covid, so what does the passport do other than give a false sense of security and allow big brother to track you even more easily?

[@timcomley3241]

Well reasoned argument 🙄

[@Nick7901962]

@@Stormcrow_1 the vaccine reduces the chances of spreading it, so the vaccine passports reduces the risk of it being spread at crowded venues It’s really simple. Why do none of you understand the difference between ‘reducing transmission’ and ‘stopping transmission’?

[@LSD04]

@@Nick7901962 👈🏻😂🛎🔚

[@stableianF1oracle]

All we had to do was protect the elderly and lumpy McDonald fans and let the rest of the population make their own decisions.

[@clarriott5]

Exactly. We have been compelled down a disastrous path of lockdowns by an authoritarian leftwing political class who don't believe in the rugged individualism which does exist in our society. Most of us given the information of the costs of lockdowns would not have chosen lockdown, we would have toughed it out and accepted some losses. But crucially we were not given that information. In fact Boris admitted that at no time during the pandemic did he order or demand of his people a cost benefit analysis of lockdown compared to the alternatives. We were simply left in the dark in the lockdown.

[@clarriott5]

@bryan low most of the assumptions about lockdowns were wrong and in any case due to the criminal stupidity of the government they were doomed to fail because immigration continued throughout the lookdowns and was unscreened or tested so the population was continually reinfected.

[@robbiegerard7857]

As Lord Sumption QC was quoted as saying, let those who were vulnerable isolate, those who weren't get on with life.

[@trevormarcray]

Sweden had the best approach hands down. They have been in good shape for a long time. I will never be locked down again.

[@user-bm6jn9ls4n]

Moved to Sweden from UK August 2019. Here we mostly go on with life as normal..zero lockdowns and very minimal shutting down of businesses .. My daughters vistited from UK early 2020 ..they said to me .."its so nice for two weeks to live normal without the UK's over the top covid madness"..where the govt, media, chosen scientists all sing from the same scaremongering hymn..I believe Swedes live by their moto "Lagom" = moderation or everything in moderation. Another thing is Swedish media is more about reporting facts rather than opinions that I learntin Swedish school.. Swedish politics is for sure not full of drama like the UK... no govt for six months..life still goes on as normal.. new PM resigns after 7 hours.. little jokes made here n there but life still goes on as normal with zero drama.. Updates on covid were mostly by Tegnell in his non dramatic humble reasuring voice and tone. Zero scaremongering and 24/7 reporting on covid.. we learnt to live with covid from the beginning.. zero mandatory vaccines the Swedish constitution will be difficult to change to allow it I believe..no being Bombarded with messages one letter was sent out to me offeringthe vaccine and that was it.. testing is limited for those that need it.. we are treated like responsible adults and therefore react the same way. I work part time in a chicken factory and no factory was built for social distancing..we worknface to face shoulder to shoulder..we are near enough 900 workers most of us working shifts clocking in and and out I often ask myself where is covid? We are absolutely packed like sardines.. regardlessof the company taking all necessary measures and making distancing spaces.. its human habits . zero deaths as far as I know n I have not heard of anyone hopitalised.. I have worked in the summer 4 months straight 5 days per week and have worked a 3 month winter contract.. most people that went off sick with flu symptoms recovered at home n were soon back at work. I am over 50 and not having the vaccine.. I was off work with flu like symptoms when the Omicron came..have never taken any covid test to date.. we have to calm down and stop all this over the top reactions, drama and refuse to pay attention to the scaremongering. Leave me alone! ..I am an adult with the right to choose what goes in my body..

[@MFvH]

The question that needs answering is: Have lockdowns caused more harm than good?

[@seanmoran6510]

More harm But I’d say on a philosophical level It says a lot about the state of our Societies

[@clarriott5]

The government has criminally refused throughout the pandemic to do that analysis. This is literally true. We may never know because they forgot to make any records, oops.

[@tom5083]

Sweden's knocked it out of the park! Bravo! The international pressure on the m to "lockdown" must have been immense!

[@wynbrown7321]

Sweden won from day one of this virus issue.

[@tracyhealey8312]

I think after two years , we know what were dealing with and the populations mostly effected, time to move on , at this point were bordering on lunacy with this..let people get back to their lives, and the government needs to step back and let the people decide their own risk assessment

[@annedonnellan6876]

Next..scary stories st Halloween from Glasgow. Lockdown to protect air quality

[@edwinleslie1330]

David Davis...... ALWAYS a Politician worth listening to.

[@jumperjunior804]

Those Asian countries can’t be compared to ours, as they are far less obese averagely, and we know that 84%+ of hospitalized people are obese or clinically obese. That’s why uk and us were far worse, our general health is far worse.

[@adamski320]

There is also the potential lingering effects of their SARS epidemics providing a longer term protection against this latest strain

[@Freebird67]

Bollocks

[@benamos2878]

They also used HCQ from the beginning rather than doing a trial by overdosing people on it and then saying it doesn't work.

[@malcomarmstrong8341]

I thought at the start, it was bollocks, so I never obeyed any of it, and as it goes it really was bollocks.

[@TheGavwaldron]

It was clearly better. There is no argument or debate needed. Sweden got it right and pretty much everyone else got it wrong and now with jab coercion and mandates other countries continue to get it wrong.

[@gerardkelly1191]

David Davis is right, plus he was the only mp that spoke about the clear direct link of low vitamin d levels in covid deaths/case's which was completely ignored.. COVID deaths would be miniscule had vitamin d issue been addressed!! But I guess when bankrupting and destroying a country, and watching it's people suffer is actually sold as a success from the totally inept power's that be, that says it all.

[@j2174]

Vitamin D (actually its more like a hormone) is greatly overrated. Also, you need to ensure you have the correct form of Vit D, and that you have K2, A, calcium, magnesium etc as well

[@gerardkelly1191]

@@j2174over 200 prominent scientists & doctors petitioned our government on the life saving abilities vitamin d has against Covid.. Countless papers on its efficacy is published on pub med.. But I guess if you look hard enough you will find a pfizer paper somewhere to back up your view.. For me the published data, plus the opinion of 200 unbiased scientists & doctors, with only the best interests of humanity at heart, this plus my own personal experience stand's head and shoulders above everything else. But I appreciate your reply, no matter how misguided.

[@darthkek1953]

West Africa didn't move fast. That's a total misreading. Covid deaths in bulk were aged-based. EG the population in West Africa above 70 is about 0.6% of the population. In Western countries it's about 6%. So we have TEN TIMES the vulnerable population let alone that in West Africa if you're 70 you're very likely relatively fit because life is harder or at least more physical.

[@edwardyoungs6555]

There was a planned pandemic response already in place that was ignored. It was regularly updated and was calculated to deal 750000 deaths directly from a virus. Has this committee looked in to why this was not used? Our current type of situation was one that was looked at within this planned pandemic response. It did not recommend lockdowns and coercion.

[@devorah935]

Come on let the truth prevail

[@GCSengineering]

I also listened to Christopher chope yet they are still wanting to force jab the children, it’s disgusting. They also killed the elderly in care homes, didn’t want relatives going in so that they could witness what was going on. The poor elderly were like lambs to the slaughter, I thank God my parents are already gone and didn’t have to suffer this abomination. Unfortunately it’s all deliberate.

[@barbaraneville5036]

As the virus was leaked in September of 2019 by the time March came locking down flights was pointless It was already here at Christmas 2019

[@robertadowns217]

The Vaccines were here long before the virus. Check information about the patents that Fauci acquired and put into the hands of Pfizer...

[@robertadowns217]

Saw your speech on Big Brother Watch. Thank you, it was excellent! My comments were taken off 3 times, and now your video has been removed... Disgraceful!

[@devorah935]

treatment elderly where offered in homes was midazolam

[@seanie002]

Eh??!?!! 🤔

[@devorah935]

@@seanie002 common knowledge wall of silence amongst care homes and staff

[@themoviejunky3918]

You bet their response was better.

[@jimosullivan1389]

Just look up Ivor Cummins, Anna Brees, Dr David McCullough and all will be clear!

[@benamos2878]

Ivor Cummins documentary on the virus is coming out soon.

[@2trichoptera]

Looking at the difference between those that locked down & those who didn't (e.g. North & South Dakota) showed no flippin difference, if anything those that didn't did slightly better. Lockdowns were in effect a social experiment. We threw out our pandemic plans to follow China in what was unproven & draconian. Let's get real, our deaths as a percentage of the population for 2020 was 0.92%, thats the average for the last 20 years. We knew who the most at risk were & failed them. We have no idea what our infection rates or death rates were or are because using a useless metric (cases being a positive test & deaths of anything within 28 days of a positive test). MHRA reporting c.1500 vaccine related deaths a week at present. Not being discussed at all. Follow the money.

[@elingrome5853]

It’s about vitamin d3 levels and previous exposure to sars 1. Little else.

[@earthstick]

Some parts of Africa also protect against Malaria with HCQ.

[@devorah935]

The nhs is being privatised as we speak 🤐

[@lukebrown997]

Good the NHS is socialist trash

[@seanmoran6510]

The NHS needs to be brought into the 21st Century This sentimentality needs to be ditched in favour of reality and compassion I’d certainly be looking at the best Continental systems for a mixed health care system instead of playing party politics with sentiment used as a weapon. Unfortunately we seem to be looking at Corporate America

[@GHOST5663]

Cheaper as well, not that the real bosses care.

[@timneale8869]

I wonder what the cv19 public inquiry could up with?. Will some of it cook up or dam the government thoughts who wanted more lockdowns and longer lockdowns. With in the civil service or the home office???.

[@a.hoctavius5848]

We’ve known this for nearly 2 years now 🙄

[@Elizabeth-jd3mn]

The earlier we'd locked down the more deaths from other causes we would have seen. The answer was to keep all other healthcare going in early build Nightingales while treating covid in the general hospitals that way overall deaths could have been reduced. There was 250,000 of us signed up to return and the whole thing was so badly organised many of us removed our details from the list. It is simply untrue to say we didn't have the staff. The Swedes did exactly what we should have and their overall death rate per capita will end up considerably better than ours.

[@jules2545]

"Keeping people alive", apart from the older folk who were farmed out to the care homes.

[@nicksmith3245]

No "arguably" about it!

[@j2174]

And now where is South Korea, Taiwan, and East Asia (or Australia) versus places like Canada, UK etc?

[@jimcourt9164]

Seems SAGE advised gov .. NOT to close borders

[@seanmoran6510]

Ah some of the hidden persuaders 😉

[@bjarnestroustrup3650]

No point in squabbling over Swedish meatballs

[@MillywiggZ]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sweden is best at everything.

[@Benedict401]

I thought you were a Freedom Fighter.

[@alboy4]

Why hasn’t this channel reported on Sunak’s proposed £2bn cuts to the ‘levelling up’ fund or the fact he’s raising taxes to the highest rates ever witnessed in peacetime? Too busy interviewing nobodies?

[@alboy4]

This channel is nothing but a great big circle jerk.

[@alboy4]

Doesn’t it worry you all as viewers that GB News only focuses on the same few topics, day after day? Where’s the news?

[@alboy4]

It’s almost as though the channel exists only to ram home an agenda. 😳

[@freedomfighter5335]

ALL mainstream media pushes an agenda... the days of reporting actual news went year's ago. About the time the 24 hour so called news channels were launched... more airtime but less news...

[@seanmoran6510]

We are levelling up We are levelling up to Romania

[@wytrose4602]

It didn't go far enough at first AND now it went to far. The Asian got it anyway so I doubt that matters. But now you're going over board..

[@dalecrocker3213]

A degree of genetic immunity due to exposure to historic pandemics which did not reach Europe must be a factor in Asia's performance, I think. Also it is very odd that in Africa the countries where malaria is endemic have had among the lowest death rates in the world. The mistake we will make the next time around is the same one we made this time: to have a "plan" in place which does not recognise the unique nature of each pandemic.

[@garypowell1540]

Rubbish. All viral pandemics are very similar to each other, as well as nothing new.

[@dalecrocker3213]

@@garypowell1540 No they are not. This one is very selective in whom it kills. We planned for a universal pandemic, killing old and young alike, as do most influenzas to a considerable degree. This one is even racially selective.

[@stevelufc64]

Countries with high malaria cases also tend to use ivermectin more

[@dalecrocker3213]

@@stevelufc64 To say nothing of hydroxychloroquine.

[@benamos2878]

Extensive use of HCQ in Africa and Asia.

[@elingrome5853]

Arguably? 🤣🤣

[@LizziLou0007]

Why is NO ONE talking about Uttar Pradesh?

[@benamos2878]

Because we aren't allowed to talk about Iver Mectin.

[@simonneep8413]

@@benamos2878 Ivor who? :) One is allowed to discuss Ivermectin. Unfortunately it's been 'debunked' by the BBC who happened to stumble across an opinion piece put together by a few twitter experts. Would be great if GB News gave some un-biased time to studies of Ivermectin in relation to COVID.

[@benamos2878]

@@simonneep8413 Dr. John Campbell covered the "debunking" gave me a laugh.

[@simonneep8413]

@@benamos2878 Indeed for an educator he's got a good sense of humour! Should we be worried he hasn't posted for 3 days since then :P

[@LizziLou0007]

@@simonneep8413 debunked by who? 241 million in Uttar Pradesh, less than 5% 💉, 14 new 🦠cases, 0 DEATHS as of 28/9/21 which is what happens when you put health above BigPharma profits. That should be being shouted from the rooftops not talked about or debunked by a loser corporation.

[@wytrose4602]

End gain of FUNCTION.

[@stephenrichards5386]

But I bet they were well paid

[@freakbrothers2012]

Sweden is double the size of the UK, with only 1/6 of the population. How can strategies and results be comparable?

[@konanLastchance]

@Arthur Daley 70 million 🇬🇧 10million sweden 😂

[@cornishhh]

How is that relevant? You compare deaths per capita. Sweden's are about 75% that of the UK's.

[@monsieurlewop]

@@konanLastchance Fewer deaths per million in Sweden, if I'm not mistaken. And negligible costs of lockdown compared to us.

[@shaunluckham1418]

They can’t, but Sweden treated their population like adults, the UK didn’t.

[@alboy4]

@Arthur Daley It would be a valid comparison.

[@61shirley]

Evidently it was

[@Whatever-ow4bg]

Ya think

[@amirmohammadnoormohammad5590]

Let's remember Afghanistan 🇦🇫please.

[@earthstick]

Midazolam

[@trevaudio]

Davis 😏

[@HRPFayetteville]

U can not compare the uk to Sweden this is rodiculas to do so with any credibility to the opinion

[@philhill3359]

Why not?

[@dalecrocker3213]

Similar demographics, just on a smaller scale.

[@alboy4]

@@dalecrocker3213 How so?

[@dalecrocker3213]

@@alboy4 Mainly because both countries have a relatively large number of very elderly people who have escaped influenza for a few seasons. It is predominantly these people who have died.