David Frum On Why Trump-Russia Wasn't A Hoax

The Atlantic's David Frum joins Morning Joe to discuss his latest piece 'It Wasn't a Hoax,' on '...the suddenly red-hot media campaign to endorse Trump’s fantasy that he was the victim of a 'Russia hoax.''
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David Frum On Why Trump-Russia Wasn't A Hoax

[@debbiezatterberg5481]

What about those twelve REPUBLICANS WHO WENT TO RUSSIA ON THE FOURTH OF JULY.

[@Phantom9587]

One of them are not Trump, so they never ever mention them since it didn't fits their narrative

[@dr.g3860]

The Republican Party has been Schröderized.

[@randominternetuser2888]

@@Phantom9587 I see from your other comments you know a lot about "narratives" and you never break your partisan narrative even when presented with factual evidence 🙄 Strange you never present any evidence to support your narratives 🤔

[@OneAfricanRace]

Trump went there on 4th of July 1987... probably when they started grooming him.

[@Phantom9587]

@@randominternetuser2888 why well i present evidence if msnbc never mention it?

[@jimijames63]

As soon as he said " Russia, if you're listening" he should have been investigated. And taken down.

[@steveknows62]

With extreme prejudice.

[@make_me7459]

trumps circus seals clapped instead

[@bluesmamarara9213]

I totally agree. I thought so the minute he said those words. The FBI should've dragged him off the stage immediately & said "you're done." You can't solicit help from a foreign country in a presidential campaign. I still wonder why they didn't.

[@steveknows62]

@@bluesmamarara9213 trump has his supporters in both the FBI and the military. That must have played a part in their inaction.

[@mikec886]

He was ....

[@henrimatisse7481]

I really don't understand why so many US citizens, and I won't refer to them as Americans, back every crime that Trump and his family and his henchmen have committed. Why?

[@sds5502]

That's the million dollar question with no legitimate answer.

[@kristalmacleod3215]

Good Question' they are blinded with Ignorance THEY can NOT see for looking and want to hear no bad about heil drumpf

[@jodyhuston1516]

They have been expertly brainwashed.

[@johnhalverson1133]

Mindless Mongoloid Minions

[@beatmet2355]

Why do US citizens ignore the corruption in Washington across the board, regardless of party? Obama’s role in Fast and Furious? Biden’s collusion with China Hillary’s numerous legal issues over the decades of her corruption? The number of people associated with Bill and Hillary and mysterious “deaths” and “suicides”. The average politician doesn’t give a crap about the country they represent, they’re worried about how much wealth they can accumulate from global financing.

[@herbertrodriguez9236]

It's amazing how one individual can cause so much damage in a country as great as America. Donald Trump will go down in History as the President who almost ended Democracy.

[@jameswalker4225]

You can hope that happens…. I know I do.

[@micheleolson9914]

Oh, Dumpy couldn't have done it, and continue to do it, without his goose-stepping comrades in the MAGA GOP.

[@johnhalverson1133]

Its incredibly simple Herbert.....trump is THE WORST PERSON IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES...and there's not even a close second place.

[@LarryCleveland]

It died a long time ago. Putin wants thump to be our dicktator. He own a lot of money to Russia. I remember how orange stood on the balcony after covid when he took the mask off. They are power hungry and they will get it all. Orange wants to bankrupt America so he can use Russia money to buy us. Good movie plot but it wouldn't surprise me.

[@LarryCleveland]

@@micheleolson9914 the Hitler Effect.

[@pvw732]

Getting law enforcement to do their job vs rich people is like pulling teeth. Trump should be in jail on so many crimes.

[@brucemcdonald1114]

They should just sit him in a cell while he awaits the results of all of these investigations. He is definitely a flight risk.

[@treehuggerdeluxe5598]

The Supreme Court refusing to hear the emoluments case really shocked me... and opened my eyes a little bit wider.

[@daysrcdays]

@@treehuggerdeluxe5598 Our country is just about done. This coming election will see Republicans overturn fair elections. Democracy will be done along with this nation.

[@jamesrlewin]

Even though you don't know what crimes you're talking about, I also believe in incarceration of political enemies without due process.

[@pattygould8240]

@@daysrcdays if that happens, it's because your citizens let it.

[@bobbolan4672]

The traitors speech in Helsinki told me all I needed to know about where trumps loyalties we're, are and always will be. His actions and behavior since Helsinki only reinforced the fact that he is guilty in my eyes. And thus, I personally as an American (not a Dem or Rep) judge him.

[@Stormie_LV]

Well said.... Truth

[@jabom99]

His submissive behavior around Putin was shocking.

[@jabom99]

I wish former DNI Dan Coates opinion of Trump was a bigger deal. That is something else shocking.

[@soulcrewblue5608]

Been saying this to Trump supporters for ages, they pushed back with....ignore or la la la deflect la la la deflect and so on

[@SC-oh9ol]

@@soulcrewblue5608 I love the ones that throw out Whataboutisms about looking in to Clinton's and Biden's alleged "criminal activities" Remember the second presidential debate? He opened with Hunter and Joe were/are involved in a multi country energy deal ....he claimed he had the silver bullet....I remember the hours before,my buddy here,who is unfortunately a Q-Anonsense wingnut....Even long after the whole thing was debunked,he told me that I need to watch the Debate because they are revealing devastating evidence that will have both Joe and Hunter in jail before the show is over....I watched it...then messaged my buddy .asking when the smoking gun shows up...He told me to just wait and see,and if I follow the money every thing he did as a traitor to the US people will be revealed....And til this day another word hasn't been said about it.I pointed out that Hunter has never served or been an employee of the US government,and Joe was no longer in office...So you have proven nothing...other than regurgitating the crap that 1 person said....which is his textbook go to action.His Father taught it to him.Its import to realise that.Trunp pulled a Nixon in the first 6 months in office by repeating Nixon by saying "If the POTUS does it,It's not against the law.And MY DOJ and staff can't and won't allow anyone to say My actions are illegal because they are not.The same day he called the Emoluments clauses stupid and phoney....He recieved 58 gifts from Saudi Arabia alone....Can you imagine how the trials of Manson or the career of Hitler had played out if they were approached by Law Enforcement and asked if they are doing anything illegal? The constitution clearly says that "No one is permitted to be the judge of their own trial.Its over a year after the election and each day more of his crimes,abuse of power and disregard for S.O.P. come out daily.Heck I'm still hearing about him donating his salary back somewhere.....They always leave out that it goes through 2 tax shelters first and the last 1/4 of his last year in he made a big show about giving it back,bit never arrived anywhere.Probablt because this Charitable Foundation had been found guilty of violating the regs for campaign funds and shut down.And very soon it will be made openly public that Jared had started and Umbrella corp to control the campaign funds.... which every one in the fam... Including his wife,Drumft's wife,Eric and his Wife and Drumft Jr and his wife...even young Barron were all collecting consulting fees ..to the tune of millions.And the Trump University scam alone should have made any normal person ask WTF? And not support him...he steals $175 million from potential customers...Has a class action lawsuit pending on it (for several years),as he always makes sure his lawyers bury the case in proceedings....Then once he became President Elect..it's quickly settled before the inauguration...For only having to pay back $25 million of it.....So he profited $150 million to rip all those people off,not to mention all the interest he made on it.And he still can't pay his bills?

[@catherinewilson1079]

I would imagine that a man like Putin KNEW he was dealing with an evil clown.

[@cyasi]

Sociopaths think alike.

[@bliss4383]

Putin was afraid of Hillary. She would have set his pants on fire, then kicked his ash to the curb. As for Trump, Putin was having a Bromance with a dumb blonde.

[@bliss4383]

@@cyasi True that.

[@miked.5089]

@@bliss4383 LOL A former KGB spy would definitely be shaking in his boots.

[@pat-patbro3359]

...or dealing with a dumbfounded 🤡!

[@terrancemoore8756]

To quote Eric Trump; "we don't rely on American banks, we get all of our funding out of Russia."

[@amgslife]

What? He actually said that?

[@larrymurrell8742]

Yes he said that,but let's go get Hunter!!!!!!

[@amgslife]

@@larrymurrell8742 Was that a joke?

[@r.elizabethcook3701]

No joke...wonder if the sanctions have cut off Trump income...oh, I hope so.

[@jensmith516]

🤨

[@dannyspitzer1267]

No justice until Agolf Twittler is in prison

[@TheRoybert]

Nickname is quite nicely constructed. Bravo.

[@joesgonehunting49]

Keep dreaming and living in lala land, you fools not the liberals in power will ever get Trump in a prison. Wishful thinking from fools. He makes you all look the fools and ignorant snowflakes that you are. But hey, keep squawking about Trump, it's working oh so well for you huh? LET'S GO BRANDON!

[@randominternetuser2888]

1 month old troll account 👆 confirmed Calling others fools while doing a fortune telling rant is peak internet hypocrisy 🙄 You must be so proud. What brand crystal ball told you the future there Mrs. Gypsy hunter lady? Isn't a very good hunter as it can't find any facts to present, just more gQp propaganda

[@tbishop4961]

TDS is still more prolific than covid 🤣

[@OneAfricanRace]

@@joesgonehunting49 Your right, Trump won't go to prison... he will flee the country first like the coward and fraud he is... you will see..

[@solutioninsearchofaproblem2402]

If there was an election that needed to be investigated, 2016 is definitely at the top of my list!!!

[@johnnyfreedom3437]

I'd like to get some proof of what we already know. Trump was basically a Russian agent sitting in the Oval Office! I'm surprised we survived at all!

[@plonkersbro]

@@johnnyfreedom3437 Well with the chaos Trump caused while he was in there especially stirring up China against the US like he even keeps doing now, not to mention distancing US from the rest of the world, and the way Putin is now moving in to invade other countries bordering Russia I don't think the proofs gonna be too hard to find to back up the fact we know he was a Russian agent. The meeting he had with Putin where he was the only American in the room said all but announced he was a traitor

[@brucebarber4104]

@@johnnyfreedom3437, tRump has been a Russian agent since at least 1984 when the Russian mafia used tRump real estate to launder money.

[@elroythegreat1590]

These comments show how bad the mental health crisis is in America, far worse than any Fauci virus. TDS is real.

[@jackrockwell6698]

@@elroythegreat1590 the irony of being told I have Trump derangement syndrome from people who have Trump flags flying from their vehicles, who wear Trump t shirts, who donated money to his election fraud legal fund (and are still donating because they didn’t read the fine print), etc. is just amazing.

[@howdy268]

Re Quoted; If you mix equal parts of Russian Red and Coward Yellow,you get Trump Orange 🍊

[@lj5585]

Eric didnt lie. He said "We have our money in Russia.

[@tsfrommenlopark2335]

It's not illegal for an American business man, but IT MOST CERTAINLY IS ILLEGAL FOR A SITTING AMERICAN PRESENT TO DO BUSINESS WITH SHADY RUSSIAN CHARACTERS. IT'S BEYOND CRIMINAL, IT'S TREATURY AND TREASONOUS.

[@toddr2265]

TRE45ON

[@robertthweatt1900]

The chances Trump committed no proveable crimes during his dealimgs with Russians are just about zero. Money laundering(many, many, counts) for openers. Look at Weisselberg case..not too careful, were they?

[@myman8336]

I'm guessing foreign affairs like trade is not business 🏌🛫

[@curtiseverett1671]

How much more treasonous can you get?

[@alanakafang6143]

Never happened 🤣

[@electricbadgercollc8146]

Can you imagine what would have happened to Obama if he had said: "Russia, if you're listening..."...talking about hypocrisy--the GOP specialty.

[@dabouras]

Exactly, that's when I turned full against Trump. I disliked him from what had happened on the Apprentice show ... Many hard working contestants striving and yet his kids ran everything. Then shifted to Celebrity Apprentice, yeah, shades of things to come.

[@bayareaconsult4115]

President Obama is black and not allowed but trump is allowed since he is white

[@AllysonJFlagg]

Putin is delusional and believes that God has given him extortionary power and privileges to cleanse the world of humans who are "bad". He will use nuclear weapons to do this, possibly ending all life on earth for which God (in Putin's mind) can begin again a better human race. It appears the Russians, Ukrainians and Europe in general, have not drunk Putin's cool aide as has donald trump and the republican party.

[@kristalmacleod3215]

hung.

[@joannedarragh4039]

IT IS ALL IN THE MUELLER REPORT

[@debraderoos5225]

I also blame Mueller for this along with Bill Barr. Neither one would tell the American people the truth.

[@triciac1019]

The Mueller Report was put out. It wasn't Mueller's job to report what was in the Report. It was Barr's job, and he lied so openly, to defend Trump. The Investigation Into Russian Interference In Our Election (Volume 1) and the Obstruction of Justice crimes Trump committed to stop the investigation (Volume 2). Barr should not have lied about what was in the Report. He said late on a Friday that Trump was found innocent, which wasnt the truth. There was a massive campaign to lie about what the Report actually said. So Trump's people, who wouldn't read the Report pushed that narrative. Barr has a lot to answer to, as well as a lot of others. Now Barr has a book out take money.

[@elaineburnett5230]

"It remains fact" and facts are what we need.

[@candidaprout560]

Around the world people thought so. It was easy to understand it. Putin wanted a USA "president" who let him be Putin. Remember Helsinki?

[@guynorth3277]

How does anyone in America forget!?

[@seaoftranquility7228]

Putin must be absolutely delighted at the success of his little project. “Man, I thought I’d destabilise the country and get an American president in my pocket, but this, this is beyond my wildest dreams”

[@brendacawston9236]

I don't understand how some Americans can be so blind. I know not all are. But the numbers that are is worrisome a.d disheartening.

[@1970sau]

How could you still believe anything that comes out of MSNBC when they've been wrong about so much

[@seaoftranquility7228]

@@1970sau Like?

[@TheScorpionCarpenter]

I’m Canadian and I remember watching the Helsinki Surrender aghast…..

[@pjpredhomme7699]

I bet the Russian citizens were even horrified

[@chrisnamaste3572]

You Canadians need to get a real military to defend against Trumpism.

[@asianguy6174]

I remember reading in a psychology book about how psychopaths have an uncanny ability to make people agree with irrational positions.

[@marcharsveld2914]

It's not only Trump's lies that did the damage. It's "His ability to change our minds about what was wrong". Spot on.

[@bp4187]

yup, perceptive.

[@thekey3033]

Trump was the tool used by the Russians to promote a shift in attitudes towards Russia and create turmoil within the USA, via, misinformation and stroking the radical right's fear. Trump was truly the useful tool.

[@janetkeogh4179]

It's called Gaslighting.

[@marcharsveld2914]

@@janetkeogh4179 Yep. Gaslighting indeed. NPD for president.

[@torqzebrawoody]

His ability to change SOME people's mind, the ignorant, uneducated & brainwashed. It's a shame our education system isn't more keen on teaching students how to Dismiss a Lying Con Man.

[@philiplombardo4332]

If this is true, then Trump should be disqualified from ever run again.

[@quedizzle7378]

There is no if. It is true. Why do you think they are working so hard to discredit the investigation?

[@martiboxwell9680]

This is 100% true. Conservative media was hiding this from its viewers to remain in power. It was beyond frustrating to watch

[@peachion2]

If this is true, he needs to be charged with treason.

[@danburnes722]

@@martiboxwell9680 David Frum is a real conservative. You are referring to the populist nationalist networks.

[@martiboxwell9680]

@@danburnes722 Yeah the networks. I didnt mean individuals.

[@stonefree67]

When they walked out to that presser we had one looking superior and one looking like a child in school being reprimanded by his teacher. Putin struttin in,Trump looking down to the carpet!!

[@leeyoungjr675]

Right

[@sandiharris5906]

Trump was a surprisingly significant promise keeper, while Biden insults millions of whites openly

[@afn3899]

@@sandiharris5906 why say stupid things like that? It makes the right look uneducated, is that what you're going for?

[@sasksunseekers5699]

@@sandiharris5906 why can't you wilfully ignorant people stay on topic...always about the other guy...that deflection trick doesn't work never has never will... but then again what else could we expect form the wilfully ignorant right... truth hurts doesn't it... don't like hearing the truth about trump do you... hence the constant deflection...you have nothing else...nothing to support trump is the wrong he has done so deflect ...you parrots are so easi8ly trained... if fish were as easy to catch...smdh

[@quedizzle7378]

Just like a hostage. That was the most disgusting, disgraceful press conference I've ever seen in my whole life.

[@hbnexus01]

Based on the videos I have watched on mainstream media I would have to say that Trump used some of the tactics from Putin's playbook, during his tenure as President; or, at the very least, they shared the same playbook. The lying, the subversion, and misinformation tactics.

[@redstart67]

Gosh, whoever would have guessed that Trump's multiple obstructions of justice were committed to cover something bigger up?

[@Susan-up2wv]

You mean to say what we saw with our own eyes, and heard with our own ears was real!! Imagine that!!

[@ContinuousRefinement]

You didn't see anything...it's completely imagined...Left-wingers are delusional...you're on crack.

[@mardijohns]

@@ContinuousRefinement Gaslight much? Is that YOU, Donald?

[@12dreams]

Every time we saw Putin and Trump together, Putin wasn't just smiling, he was grinning....and for good reason.

[@quedizzle7378]

Yes and Trump always looked like a hostage. Especially in Helsinki. That was very disgraceful!

[@ecurewitz]

putin got everything he wanted

[@LAlan-pi2oc]

looked and acted like 13 yr old with a crush...

[@chrisspellman8545]

Putin always had Trump in his pocket😂

[@12dreams]

Putin was the cat and Trump was the canary.

[@paulferrell6198]

This is why The Atlantic is great: David Frum.

[@SharkAttackFile]

Does nobody else remember Putin’s comment in Prada, around 2014, that the only person in the world he feared was Hillary Clinton?

[@PecanRanch]

"We get all the funding we need out of Russia." - Eric Trump

[@HoopsKevinski]

When your net worth is $2.8B and you got $2.5B from SugarDaddy (Russian launderer DeutscheBank) + $400M from BioDaddy + $400M from "Liberal Hollywood". ( = Negative $500M.)

[@Tippy2forU]

@@HoopsKevinski : Exactly. He is cash poor. His liabilities are more than his assets. The big lie is built on him not being forced to repay loans, putting people in place to block getting his tax returns and blocking the investigation.

[@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869]

Verify your statement.

[@grabnrungranny6003]

@@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 they have verified it. Who is ignoring it all is what we want to know.

[@usernotfound904]

@@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 you need proof? What kind of “Billionaire Businessman” continues to beg his cult for donations to “fight the steal”? He hasn’t spent a dime on doing that. He grifts his foolish followers into giving him money. Has been doing this for decades. Ever hear of Trump University!?

[@chicagoboy1106]

*Bottom line: trump did it! putin did it! Period!*

[@jamesrlewin]

Did it. No cash bail. Released and found not guilty of "it"! Lol!

[@wesleygordon1645]

BOTTOM LINE HERE IS : THAT IS A DIRTY LIE!!

[@ronaldharrington2150]

Stop listening to these people do your own research. If you look you find the truth. The msm have been Misinforming you for decades. All to keep you from thinking for yourself. Control control. Control. They know if you ever wake up there done.

[@TDS_ExistMaga4ever]

Did what?get lied and defamed by the democratic news networks CNN and MSNBC wake up bro

[@SuperSetright]

THERE ARE NO VARIANTS, JUST LIES. The Omicron variant is no different from the Delta variant or any other variant past or present in that none of them have been shown to exist in nature. All of them are simply computer created “genomes” from unpurified specimens. No Omicron variant virus was found because no virus was found. Instead, variations in sequences are found which reflects both the inability of the process to be replicated as well as newly detected sequences in the environment which are claimed (without proof) to be viral in origin. Thus it was no surprise that within days the Omicron invention was being “found” simultaneously all around the world.

[@briankraemer8139]

Joe really should just run a one-man show. That appears to be what he really wants. I can't imagine anyone agreeing to go on his show and sit there and smile at the camera as Joe goes on and on with his own opinion. It has been like this since I started watching him six, seven years ago. It is highly unlikely it will be any different a year from now or two years from now. It reminds me of my second graders who admitted they hated the noise, but they loved their own voices. There are plenty of interviewers who honestly want to learn from their guests. Joe might be one of these, but if he is, then he should humble himself and show us by his actions that this is the case. I must admit that David Frum did a pretty good job of holding his own in this interview.

[@theone31man]

Happy New Year to you and Mika Joe. Your reason and logic helped me get through 2021. It was a tough year. May this year be better.

[@sanusmotus1696]

Treason requires the death penalty. I am generally against the death penalty but I am in favor of it in this case. These people are a threat to civil society.

[@ContinuousRefinement]

You are a traitor.

[@lilmoe4364]

"America first" lol.. how about America catch up to the rest of the "civilized" world ?

[@5cloudwalker]

Putin would have read the dossier on trump and picked up on his weaknesses A narcissist loves flattery easy and cheap to give in exchange of a careless word dropped here and there

[@jaaksavat7916]

@Shloudwalker Didn't trumpsollini wanted a trump tower in Moscow and there's something about golden showers, somewhere.

[@winstonsmith8565]

And what's Biden's weakness? Other than 9 year olds

[@plonkersbro]

You missed the being given money, then again he was no doubt already laundering their money for them via the German bank loans

[@jaaksavat7916]

@@winstonsmith8565 being 'old' and having overcome a speech impairment isn't prerequisite for being incompetent or stupid and compared to trumpsollini not denying reality but dealing with it in a very comprehensively and adequately.

[@russellnewton6660]

Exactly what it says in the book Kompromat.

[@donnamoore65]

I'm so glad they are talking about this. I remember when this report came out by Marco Rubio, but haven't heard about it again until now.

[@bp4187]

David Frum is sharp. Always worth listening to.

[@chicagoboy1106]

*Used to be treason was punishable by firing squad! Nuff said!*

[@susanmann192]

Treason used to be a hanging offense also

[@ryandewhirst1579]

@@HAL69000 I'm sorry I'm afraid I can't do that

[@pjpredhomme7699]

​@@HAL69000 the washington post reported yesterday that among the 15 or so boxes of documents - @ mar a lago - there were some that were above top secret - there is only one reason to have those in an unsecured -way like that to be sold to foreign intelligence

[@pjpredhomme7699]

@@HAL69000 i am generally against violence - but i would love to buy a ticket - let me know i will give you my CC

[@greggusan]

I really don't know how it works, but couldn't a current president nullify the NDA the previous president forced the interpreter to sign when Dump met with Putin? WTF did they talk about??? I just can't get over the fishiness of how that all went down.

[@RussDaChamp]

Because it is all Bullsh*t! It’s MSM lies!

[@ShmuelWeintraub]

So-Ko Moto: An NDA that precludes it's subjects from discussing criminal acts is, by definition, invalid. If crimes were committed or just believed to have been committed, any judge can quash an NDA (or other contractual instrument).

[@steveknows62]

@@RussDaChamp What is? The meeting? The NDA? Wtf are you babbling about?

[@steveknows62]

@Janitor Queen And has he ever conveyed his dislike of lies to trump?

[@steveknows62]

I have to believe that those translators were debriefed by intel agencies. If not, why not? If so, when do we get to see it?

[@Duh6666666]

My two favorite conservatives, Frum's mother was an incredible broadcaster for the CBC in Canada.

[@arniewilliamson1767]

Mr Frum is clearly his mother’s son. Well informed and straight to the point.

[@fredderf3152]

I have always believed that Trump’s short lived casino was a way to launder Russian Mafia money!!

[@godfreydaniel6278]

I have family in NY - well-placed socially. It was common knowledge among them and their circle in the 80's that the Mango Mussolini was waaaaaay in bed with the Russian mob. Any cab driver would tell you so...

[@dustincaso6781]

Evidence? Oh you’re a leftist, they don’t require evidence.

[@fredderf3152]

@@godfreydaniel6278 thank you for the reply.

[@peaharrison9071]

Serious anger from y’all.

[@fredderf3152]

@@kane5058 … your reply proves an important point. Thank you for replying.

[@phriedokra6158]

Eric...we have all the funding we need out of Russia....lol...that was putting it MILDLY

[@dQz3r]

i remember that interview, just search youtube.

[@mikeedwards4869]

They left out China and Saudi Arabia. During the campaign trump said ,, they want me to hate Saudi Arabia. How can I hate Saudi Arabia they spent 50 mil at my properties. Trump owes the CCP $211,000,000 that's due in 22. Is that why Xi thought trump wanted to nuke China?

[@kickinkitchen7983]

MSNBC isn't news

[@DianneMarian]

@@kickinkitchen7983 Well they sure gave some news now didn't they. And you can't claim fake news; I read the report myself.

[@josecastaneda2199]

"[W]e have all the funding we need out of Russia...."

[@georgecasillas9182]

Bring back the Muller report please. You wont regreat it . Because Justice matters !

[@bluntrapture]

I want to thank Morning Joe for having David Frum on so I could look at him for a minute. I don't know if I could handle him saying anything, though. Joe was a very thoughtful host in doing all the talking so David could just relax. Interesting. I first saw Joe many, many years ago and then drifted away.....until today --- AND HE'S STILL ON THE SAME SENTENCE!! Oh, Mika, my heart goes out to you, but not all the way cuz I don't want to interrupt Joe.

[@HerrFrankenstein]

Joe Biden called Donald Trump "Putins Poodle"...

[@bigpicturethinking5620]

He also called a blue collar worker a dog faced pony soldier. And crapped his pants and fell up the stairs and called blacks cockroaches. So…….

[@user-vw2dv2ve6e]

Joe Biden can’t form a coherent sentence while reading off a teleprompter. He has dementia. He literally read “end quote” off the teleprompter the other day. 🤦‍♂️

[@brendacawston9236]

He did? Lol. Good for him 😁

[@kevinangus4848]

And he easily defeated The Orange Traitor.

[@peachion2]

@@bigpicturethinking5620 baloney

[@danmarquez3971]

It's amazing Trump walks free.

[@bongopirate0672]

Press Rubio on this ASAP. In public.

[@joannecassell8825]

THINK of the loss of counterintelligence during Benedict's admin...And the totally unqualified persons running those depts.

[@tposeinify]

They did it because they had a lot of leverage on Donny boy and can pull his strings the only reason we don’t know what it is yet is because they are still his puppeteers 📰

[@lexhobbs7668]

Anyone know where Devin Nunes has gone?!? Maybe...RUSSIA!!!

[@sheilaboston7051]

Isn't he still fighting with his cow? 🤣

[@sophierobinson2738]

Sheila Boston 🤣🤣

[@michellepernula872]

@J F There's a while list...Graham came on board later. Stone and his gang of propagandists and conspiracy theorists, Manafort,

[@pjpredhomme7699]

he is running trumps social media company now

[@jodyhuston1516]

Devin Nunes is running Trump's new media company, ... named ... "Truth". It sickens me.

[@Wendolynn_Jane]

Thank you, David. Best! :)

[@SearchfortheMeaning]

Thank you for your reporting. It astonishes me how people can live in such denial of reality. It feels like merging or splitting dimensions. People are splitting off into an "alternative" dimension. Its so strange.

[@creisda]

So glad to hear your getting to the bottom of all this! Go DOJ!!!!👏👏👏

[@danjohnston9037]

It is amazing the "Russian Model Trophy Wives " that appear around these people the kind of old cliche you see on " Law & Order" Treason is not bad enough, they have to make it tawdry too

[@terrylcorbin5310]

Excellant comment😂

[@garyray9277]

and they still put him in the white house... So the question has to be , why were they so against Hillary Clinton being in the White house again? Really... would it have been that bad that they put this joker in the white house just to rub our nations nose in it.... a dictator is there next move.... why pay for politicians why a dictator is so much cheaper... Our own Supreme Court TOOK spending limits off our elections ..... how in the world did our own supreme Courts do this to the United States of America... we have allowed our election to be bought and paid for buy the world powers... and they did it right in front of our faces.... no spending limits on our elections.....unbelievable ....

[@danjohnston9037]

@@Maggie-zr2ow I blush

[@thecopperbroom3657]

@Tyson Markus Oh come on, you guys whine like little babies... don't get mad cause you're wrong, snowflake! LOL!!!

[@alysononoahu8702]

Melania

[@JoseDiaz-ic1vb]

EVERYDAY.EVERYMINUTE.EVERYSECOND.DUMP IS FREE IS A SHAME FOR THIS COUNTRY.

[@erichannes6392]

Everything trump has done makes complete sense if you accept that trump was a russian asset.

[@mrfxm55]

Everyone forgets about all those trips to Russia by the Republican house and Senate members. I didn't forget. "Money" for deeds.

[@loomspace]

Over July 4th as well.

[@1970sau]

the media is trying to make you forget all the money Hunter Biden took from Russia and China and kicked 10% of it up to the big guy who is Joe Biden

[@marylarson2830]

Trump and Putins marriage started long before he was running for president. Putin needed and wanted some leverage. Which he got. Then trump did dirty deeds for dirt cheap and probably still does.

[@ecurewitz]

and that Russian spy hanging out with bigshots in the NRA

[@yodel_diploma2315]

@@1970sau a lie remains a lie no matter how often it is told... don't know why rightwingers are obsessed with hunter biden (and his little notebook). projection?

[@carlhunter3844]

It should be a crime to seek any outside help from other countries to assist your election efforts.

[@m.rodrigolemus6224]

@MC Craig: is all in your head CUPCAKES 😁👍🇺🇲

[@markcicero7931]

Are you familiar with Chinagate? Right after the Chinese purchased Bill Clinton is when that giant sucking sound that Ross Periot warned us about started. It must of been a coincidence.

[@markbowers322]

Especially, when you continue to do it over and over. GOPQ R STU PID

[@Stormie_LV]

Carl Hunter it is a crime! The whataboutism is strong on this page. You guys dismiss Truth to say what about this. Failing to see or realize. Your guy is the biggest criminal turned President. I may not be a big fan of Biden but Trump will always be a criminal who at Helsinki turned his back on America. Trump on Twitter that day thru America under the bus, for that alone should of made him a Pariah.

[@stoverboo]

@@markcicero7931 "must HAVE been". "Must have been," not "must of been." Is English not your first language?

[@MH-nc5jd]

We over look the fact that unfettered social media has a lot of blame in this.. one of the best gifts the US could have ever given it's foreign adversaries..

[@alanc4798]

Excellent.! Especially seeing it at this juncture.🌻

[@Dadd00]

Don't forgetting that when Putan was asked this question in a press conference with Trump, he said yes he did help Trump in the 2016 election.

[@foppishdilletaunt9911]

Little Marco Rubio as the head of any committee, but especially one dealing with intelligence is a very bad joke and grave threat to these United States…

[@LesSharp]

Doesn't anyone else find Rubio being on an intelligence committee ironic? The only time he doesn't sound stupid is when his mouth is shut.

[@mere_cat]

What Frum said here was key. 7:58. The fact that there were not indictments of Trump does not disprove the significance of the threat--that said, there are sealed indictments that the Justice Department is sitting on that must be opened.

[@robhill4352]

A lot of Russians showed up for this one.

[@michaeldowner2337]

MAGA loves Russia

[@toddr2265]

@@michaeldowner2337 AND russia loves MAGAts

[@intlvoiceofreason9239]

@@toddr2265 and... cult leaders love Republiqanons

[@mikec886]

On day one

[@mikeduffey4014]

Yup, lot of bots…

[@genwords1789]

JOE! YOU HAVE MY SINCEREST RESPECT! I APPLAUD YOU. WELL SAID.

[@david.g.hudson9812]

Whatever's in the dark, will always come to the light.

[@judithbradford9130]

It's amazing to me that people can be gullible enough to believe, for instance, that if two FBI agents had an extramarital affair that somehow all their professional work becomes somehow suspect. Does no one understand what RELEVANCE means any more?

[@m.rodrigolemus6224]

"I BELIEVE PUTIN" - Donald Helsinki Trump

[@imisstoronto3121]

How is that not treason?

[@D.A.OhK.]

@@imisstoronto3121 Because the POTUS did it. One of the things we learned from the Trump presidency -- everything the President does or says is in the interest of the nation, no matter how criminal or foul. Of course, what we're learning NOW is that this can only true if and only if the President is DJT. So much for the "nationalism" that the Trumpers claimed to ascribe to. Turns out it was only Trumpism, the authoritarianism that we thought could never happen here.

[@jamesrlewin]

So do Russians. They are the most patriotic people on earth.

[@aeneasmacrae5962]

and yet 75 million Americans voted for Trump. The Trump cult has destroyed America

[@m.rodrigolemus6224]

@@aeneasmacrae5962 : Republican President Ronald Reagan turning in his grave

[@justicelut]

Pictures of Trump and Putin clearly show Putin thinking, “ I’ve got this mug in my pocket “!

[@Logiconfire]

...and yet Biden is Putin's hand puppet.

[@lostchord702]

@@Logiconfire What ?

[@folk47goulet27]

We could see what Putin tought : "I hold the orange chubby by the balls ! If he's not nice, I'll squeeze a little, just enough for him to understand who's the boss!!!!! (Read it with a russian accent)

[@sarahhillary7698]

@@Logiconfire you spelled Trump wrong.

[@susanmattinglyhatfield9036]

Putin and Saudi MBS high fived and smirked as Trump walked in the room at the first G-20 in Hamburg, Germany. MBS said he had Jared Kirshner "in his pocket".

[@peggyh4805]

David Frum is brilliant. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@georgecasillas9182]

Review the 2 inpeachmemts cases . We the people want to know . Because Justice Matters!

[@jonathanwatkins222]

That was a great piece Joe. David Frum got it right on the mark. The intelligence community needs to get to the bottom of those questions. It's debatable if the public will ever find out though.

[@Ryan-Fkrepublicnz]

the counter intelligence investigation was dropped without explanation by Rosenstein.

[@rsw552]

Trump had and has too many people on the inside willing to cover for his misdeeds.

[@rlsedition]

Don't investigate Joe Biden's China connections; you will find plenty.

[@SuperSetright]

THERE ARE NO VARIANTS, JUST LIES. The Omicron variant is no different from the Delta variant or any other variant past or present in that none of them have been shown to exist in nature. All of them are simply computer created “genomes” from unpurified specimens. No Omicron variant virus was found because no virus was found. Instead, variations in sequences are found which reflects both the inability of the process to be replicated as well as newly detected sequences in the environment which are claimed (without proof) to be viral in origin. Thus it was no surprise that within days the Omicron invention was being “found” simultaneously all around the world.

[@corpojp6624]

Where are the consequences? It seems truly evil people are able to get away with a whole lot of bad stuff. Why are there no consequences. Lock them up!!!!

[@timtaylor9080]

Throw them in jail Now! Stop wasting time!

[@kdarensb]

Joe please let your guests speak. You could devote another segment to reading the committee report. I feel Mr.Frum needed more time to dig a bit deeper into a circuitous topic.

[@elizabethmartin3389]

Can we not permanently ban Trump from ever running again?

[@godfreydaniel6278]

ABSOLUTELY, positively NOT a hoax! The minute someone says it was - they've outed themselves as a cultist. It's that simple...

[@melo39987]

Exactly

[@MikeJProto]

Same could be said about the 2020 election, just the other way round of course. But no, that is all fabricated just like the claims made in 2016.

[@godfreydaniel6278]

@@MikeJProto - I have no idea what kind of point you're trying to make...

[@josmotherman591]

LOL.

[@josmotherman591]

Russia interferes in every US election. Why is this so special?

[@MakeMySanctuary]

True, now corrupt justice dept needs to follow through.

[@humbee89]

Sold us out.

[@daveowens9490]

Let's not give Jill Stein a pass here, she was definitely on Putin's team.

[@arkboy3]

Literally sat at Putin's table with the rest of those traitors.

[@jltrem]

On his team and at his table.

[@mtn1793]

Hard for trumpsters to believe that some people, like Jill Stein, could have no ulterior motives besides world peace isn’t it?

[@mikec886]

Stole votes and did her job

[@darlingdear2687]

That's right. KGB uses anything and anybody they can get their hands on. Tulsi included

[@kirkmarshall2853]

At the end of the day, all that really matters, is we start looking for a way to ensure no conservative ever gets power again.

[@harleyb.birdwhisperer]

Step one in that direction is somehow rebalancing the electoral college. As long as one Wyoming vote has the same weight as 70 California votes for a presidential candidate, it’s an uphill battle.

[@kirkmarshall2853]

@@harleyb.birdwhisperer I think step one needs to be the Democrats in power need to grow a collective spine and say with one voice that Scientific Humanism will be the ideological foundation from which all decisions will be made. How do we help businesses grow unless we improve the education that our citizens have access to? Both Wall Street and Main Street will grow if educated and informed people can work to innovate new ideas bound to the ideal of helping improve the quality of life for as many people as possible.

[@joseppy]

Americans have an obligation to the rest of the world not let the world’s most advanced army and arsenal fall into the hands of Nazi fascists (and traitors) like Trump, Steve Miller, Mike Flynn... and the rest of the MAGA politicians.

[@kirkmarshall2853]

@@joseppy absolutely!!! If america goes fascist, it’s terrible, but the end of the world would happen!! We, all thinking, rational people must make sure that never happens. We already have a new religion being born out of the Q nonsense with people showing up for prophesied resurrections of liberals they don’t realize were liberals when they were alive. Preachers claiming that Trump is sitting spiritually on the Right Hand of God. I’m not a Christian but even I know The Right Hand of God is Jesus’s place. So they made Trump their new Jesus. We must do everything we can to show that lifting up the people at the bottom will really bring us all up. A rising tide raises all ships. We are not in a zero sum game. And we are building the tech to conquer space and we will soon have access to resources we previously didn’t know possible.

[@harleyb.birdwhisperer]

@Don Hardcastle That’s not the question, Don. Fairness is that the votes count, at least approximately, equally. But, since you brought it up, rube, since about 1849.

[@Aviopic]

and yet the so called American democracy is unable to do anything about it. One would almost think it's time for change 🤔

[@FarginhoodMcBastage]

Why would a U.S. President need to speak with Putin in a room with no one else, including an interpreter? He is the most shady, sorry example of U.S. representation we've ever had.

[@davidshockley7869]

We all know this, so why did this go unpunished? TRE45ON

[@pamelaporter4750]

David Shockley, the republicans won the House, Senate and presidency; the power ball was in their court and they weren't giving it up.

[@princesstiarra8071]

Trump is a treasonist along with his Republican Nazis and let's not forget Trump had business with Putin and I think Putin and the Saudi's had plans to become World leaders by controlling the oil and Trump flubbed.

[@MikeJProto]

@@princesstiarra8071 Republicans are Nazis just as much as Democrats are Communists, which is to say, not at all. Just a simple and plain fact.

[@edacitas1159]

@@MikeJProto Lol I'll believe you when the nazis and loser traitors flags stop showing up at republican rallies.

[@garycard1826]

Takes along time, Don't give up hope!

[@cacambo589]

Russia: You can be PotUS if you serve our interests. tRump: When do I start?

[@OneAfricanRace]

Trump visited Moscow on 4th of July in 1987....

[@lenastropestrope1335]

China: You can be PotUs if you serve our interests. Hunter: 30 million and a diamond you say? 10 % for the big guy.

[@kingjay1628]

DJT always and forever Putin's puppet on a string.

[@jillionairess]

@@lenastropestrope1335 okay Svetlana. How's the weather in Volgograd today?

[@Borvo1]

@@lenastropestrope1335 You seem to want to forget that Trump handed the Far East and the whole Pacific Rim to China on his 3rd day in office when he pulled the USA out of the TPP! Trump was the best investment Putin ever made to topple the USA. Trump did all he could to destroy the US and its influence around the world in his 4 years in office at the direction of Putin. WAKE UP!

[@anthonyelwick3600]

Omg even when they've been caught lying they still lie about russia😂

[@chrisrobinson2221]

When he is finally held accountable, watch that airport. No one in. No one out.

[@richardluce775]

“Russia if your listening all those E mails I hope you crack em” some Ex-Guy.

[@TraitorFelon.14.3]

And the same evening another russian hacker campaign was launched.

[@suecornell9619]

When is this man/person going to be put in jail ??? What does it take ? REALLY

[@glenneric1]

It will take tens of millions of Americans stopping the deification of DT. You can't put a god in jail without risking a holy war. Continue to shed the light on his misdeeds and hope time will knock him from his throne.

[@downhilltwofour0082]

Every American should read Mr. David Frum's admonition regarding how to look at the things presented to them by various individuals and groups. Don't let the little lie hide the big lie from your eyes!

[@jimlong527]

The papers must have been flushed down the toilet.

[@davidbarnett9095]

It is amazing to me that people have forgotten that Trump and Russia missed with the 2016 election. The truth will come out some day. Probably after I am long gone. Trump and Putin will be long gone as well.

[@markcicero7931]

I thought it was impossible to rig an election. Make up your mind, democrat.

[@pamelaporter4750]

@@markcicero7931, it wasn't rigged; it was interferred with, republican.

[@markcicero7931]

@@pamelaporter4750 I fail to descern the difference. You say that the Russians picked our president for us in 2016, and I'm positive that Joe Biden was installed by the Chinese. I don't want Russian, or Chinese masters myself.

[@markcicero7931]

@@kc8605 You must not know that Hillary Clinton created the Russia collusion hoax, and that her co-conspirators are already being indicted for it. You should get yourself informed before you come on KZbin, and make a fool of yourself.

[@markcicero7931]

@@kc8605 Potatohead is in the Whitehouse, and according to Rasmussen 56% of Americans don't believe he should be there. It's obvious to most Americans that Biden is a Chinese puppet, and that he was placed in power by Xi Jingping.

[@ttburn6338]

Spanky was the best employee Putin ever had!

[@wands2457]

That.s funny. I refer to him as spanky, also,

[@richardiwanski7512]

might be right but what about China Biden puppet

[@TheDaexiled1]

We all knew this wasn't a hoax, only the Orange clown and his stupid loyal base believed it was fake. You cannot hide from facts, you can dispurge them and call them alternative facts but nonetheless they're still facts

[@Churd84538]

@@richardiwanski7512 That whataboutism literally had "what about" in the comment. Different topic.

[@cacambo589]

More servant than employee.

[@bradsnyder8802]

Why have a guest if you are going to monopolize and speak over them? Awful.

[@janiceglover4088]

People, listen up did the US ever give the name of the translator. Have the January 6 committee ask for documentation from this person ? What are we waiting for we are toooo slow get busy. Thank you. Please keep praying for our WORLD

[@MrJLCharbonneau]

9:11 It was personal… it was one man’s ego. THREE rounds of sanctions in one month devastated Putin’s personal income. Putin decided Obama must pay… explains why he’s been the common denominator throughout.

[@terrycole2407]

I wanted to dislike David Frum for a long time, given his affiliations, but there is no denying that he is an insightful writer and speaker.

[@pamtebelman2321]

I agree, but I still don't understand why people like Frum and David Brooks still identify with the Republican party. I wonder how far the party can go into obsolescence and depravity in order for them to dissociate themselves.

[@sheilaboston7051]

@@pamtebelman2321 Just remember there are Republicans and trumpublicans - therein lies the difference. We don't need to agree with conservative opinion but it is their right to have it, as long as they retain their souls.

[@pamtebelman2321]

@@sheilaboston7051 I can live without all of them, myself.

[@SuperSetright]

THERE ARE NO VARIANTS, JUST LIES. The Omicron variant is no different from the Delta variant or any other variant past or present in that none of them have been shown to exist in nature. All of them are simply computer created “genomes” from unpurified specimens. No Omicron variant virus was found because no virus was found. Instead, variations in sequences are found which reflects both the inability of the process to be replicated as well as newly detected sequences in the environment which are claimed (without proof) to be viral in origin. Thus it was no surprise that within days the Omicron invention was being “found” simultaneously all around the world.

[@pjpredhomme7699]

He always has been - and if by affiliations you mean W - he was only there in the very beginning - axis of evil and out - . His mother Barbara used to be great on TV - she was known as the Barbara Walters of Canada

[@nathanielanderson4898]

No matter how much they investigate the investigators, they still have not come up with any oranges.

[@jeandarc5900]

Just make sure the “Big Guy” gets his 10%!!