David Mamet on Current State of Hollywood

Taken from JRE #1801 w/David Mamet:
open.spotify.com/episode/0EGU...

[@arhyvrapisa]

Putting a clown in a castle doesn't make him a king.....it just makes the entire kingdom a circus.

[@SICresinwrks]

Perfect saying

[@User-54631]

Sounds like a fortune cookie.

[@reishirachahatael836]

Like your life have not been a joke... U set yourself up with that one

[@RSST662]

My DNA is not related to Jesus Christ .

[@picklerick98]

Boris

[@Riclmnopp]

Amy Schumer said that she is traumatized and is taking a month off. So i just want to say thank you Will Smith.

[@SevenHunnid]

I know this random but fam my mom recently found out about my weed channel where i smoke weed in my videos & now i be thinking about quitting or deleting my stuff now.. I haven’t even made it 😭😭

[@dertythegrower]

Because she repeating lies from news people and thinks she is smart.. also she is only famous because her uncle is Chucky Schumer the main nyc political guy. Without him, we would not even know Amy, truly obvious..

[@dertythegrower]

she is only famous because her uncle is Chucky Schumer the main nyc political guy Without Chuck, Amy would not be on tv.. obviously.

[@jshoe0037]

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[@JENESCO99]

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[@geverniveup]

I had a really fucked up childhood and movies were my greatest escape from that trauma…I can’t even begin to describe how important they were to me. Today, in my 30’s, I couldn’t care less about them. Completely fell out of love with modern cinema

[@richsimspongay1790]

Well said and right on

[@csebesta84]

Same. I think that’s why I have such fond memories of movies when I was a kid. They were an escape from my traumatic childhood.

[@vaishx]

It’s because now it’s what big shot studios want and it’s all about what WOKE people. Criticize them and people will label you

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

Me too.

[@chanelfitzgerald]

I can't remember when I last watched a movie at the cinema. Also there is so much to watch, I can't be arsed.

[@davidodonnellfilm]

Here is what he is struggling to articulate -- the mid level film that he made has mostly disappeared. The $10-30M film. Why? Because it costs around $50M+ to open a film theatrically these days (in promotion). So studios would rather invest 100M to do spider-man reboot #5, have a property that everyone knows, and recycle the same story with confidence they can get the $. There will also be the occasional $3-5M film made or mid budget level by studios with the hopes of winning an Oscar. But it's the exception not the rule. The decisions about what films are made are largely with marketing in mind. Not artistry. SO, the answer is -- yes, it's because of money. It's not viable to make the mid level films that Mamet is talking about. Thus we've seen film lose it's place as an important place of cultural conversation. It's mainly corporate output. It's cultural fast food. Streamers prefer to make TV/series than film. Why? Attention economy, they want your eyeballs for longer.

[@joehart6051]

Well said. Question: In terms of getting their film made and seen, do you think independent filmmakers would be better off shooting a film with their phone on a shoestring budget OR searching for $5 million to finance/distribute their film?

[@davidodonnellfilm]

@@joehart6051 it depends… the simple answer is many filmmakers have gone to tv. The low budg world is tricky but it does exist. Lots of horror films being made for $1M or lower and doing well. Low budg dramas are tough to recoup, even with success in festivals etc. There are micro budget films. Shoot a film on $25k with a tiny crew and few locations. You could self distribute and potentially make money. But the $1M dramas that Netflix were buying 5 years ago are often not being bought now. So choices are tv, micro/no budget as you say (not necessarily phone, but down and dirty yes), or go after the $5m film but it will have to be a very compelling case to get it made on most occasions.

[@kermitfrog593]

True. It's startling to see the parallels between film and politics. Marketing and advertising run the world, if you don't fit a certain mold, you don't have a chance.

[@hydrangeablue8928]

So much truth in all of this, well said. The mid budget success stories seem to come more and more from Netflix, Amazon, etc - huge companies that have the money to make them and give us our "nostalgia throwback" to when movies were well-made and focused entirely on good plots, acting, etc. And of course power broker A-list celebrities with deep pockets can produce/direct/star in these types of things whenever they want and make sure they're being marketed on all the right platforms. In some ways, the game really changed with indie films starting in late 80s. It was a healthy (er) time for the industry. But the dominance of streaming combined with huge attrition in people physically going to the movies has completely changed all that. Prediction: large studios as well as streaming service companies will continue to fund smaller and mid budget films through their own subsidiary channels so that we the people get our "fix"of intelligent/quality films - and through doing this those studios and tech companies will attract and groom A-level young people for their own (studio) rosters. Side note: Glengary GlennRoss is one of m favorite films of all time. It's for people who love great acting, and of course that script is as close to modern Shakespeare as we're gonna get (so far).

[@davidodonnellfilm]

@@hydrangeablue8928 back then and after you had the DVD home video market which was still healthy. But there's just less being made these days (more tv tho). In the long run it's a mistake because you can only cannibalise successes of the past with sequels for so long. I think we've already seen a reduction of the relevance of cinema/film. Streamers will make or buy the occasional awards bait film, but it's limited...

[@OldMovieRob]

He's not wrong. "30 people at a board table" making films today is why so many have given up on modern Hollywood and go looking for real films in the past.

[@bobvog7123]

Or we look for foreign films that aren't made in the Hollywood cookie cutter mold.

[@Scorpion122178]

hell they're not even going allow movies that don't meet diversity quota's be nominated oscars anymore. Not that its a big loss at this point.

[@7armedman]

Dumb. Go watch a movie in the 70s and 80s and they were bitching about the same old shit. Just another old guy who no one cares about, and barely did at his prime. He made low budget shit no one saw.

[@williamgager893]

Making films since the 80s that way at least.

[@areagh13]

Seriously older films are so much better written. Movies are too cheesy and PC these days

[@darkscienceyt]

This is all very similar to what Frank Zappa said about the direction the music industry was headed in the late 90's. Zappa said, and you can find this video on KZbin, that in the early 1960's the music producers were cigar chomping businessmen who just took a swing at the music industry. If an artist sold, it was a good investment. Ultimately the businessmen were picking artists that showed promise of return, meaning they had the talent and the chops to perform well. At some point, the businessmen got replaced by younger more pop-oriented businessmen and producers who began to nip and tuck artists into an ideality that followed a corporate formula that guaranteed album sales. Here we are today, with the likes of Justin Beiber, Taylor Swift and Bhad Babie.

[@tonedowne]

The point he was making was that the old execs had no idea what they were listening to, so they just gave any bunch of hippies a go. Which is how Zappa explains how people like him got to release a record in the first place. As soon as people started to make commercial value judgments on artists and material, was the end of his functional relationship with the record business.

[@JoeyVol]

Who the fuck is Bhad Babie? 😂

[@JoeyVol]

Rap/hip hop doesn’t follow that recipe.. Someone gets popular on SoundCloud or KZbin, then a popular mainstream artist wants their hype so they get that new artist to do a feature on their single, then everyone is introduced to that new artist through the old artist who is popular already.

[@JoeyVol]

That’s why there’s a new popular rapper every month almost.. and new popular pop singer every year.

[@ersturdevant2831]

Exactly. No more Ralph Bakshi's or Don Bluth's animation. Just Disney pablum.

[@vicmusic5640]

That last line means the world to anyone ever told, “I can’t hire you at this entry level position because you don’t have experience.”

[@elonmuskforpresident6393]

Did you see Elon Musk laugh at Miley Cyrus? kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5OVgJWpqamMZ68 It’s hilarious!! 😂 😆

[@LadyJay114]

@@dirkdiggler9882 Yes! The problem is twofold: (1)Corporations now use managers to find ways to increase production with less resources and (2)managers now only work to get promoted & not improve their teams.

[@kermitfrog593]

The movie experience has certainly changed. When I was a kid and the Ninja Turtles movie came out, it was like a seismic event. You'd have the movie poster almost a year in advance, you couldn't wait. Then in the mid nineties, summer blockbusters like Titanic and Independence Day were like cultural touchstones, everyone saw them. Things have changed. We watch movies on our laptops, alone in our rooms. So much variety means everyone has their own idiosyncratic taste, watches their own films. When you actually do try going to a movie theater, it's expensive, the popcorn is flavorless, and goddamn but people don't know how to behave in public anymore. Went to see Batman recently and I shit you not, tweens were on their phones and running up the aisles for three hours. You don't feel that sense of a communal experience. That said, it's not all bad news. The indy horror scene has been stellar post 2000s. Good indy films still get made, you just have to surf the internet and find them.

[@CleanFamilyVideos]

It goes deeper than that. When I would watch Ninja Turtles as a kid, I would see that scene where Raphael goes to the theatre and Critters is playing and he says "where do they come up with this stuff?" and it looked so ridiculous and cool that I assumed they made it as a joke just for the movie. Then one day my cousin and I are at the Blockbuster and see Critters 2. Not only is it real, but theres more! That experience cant be replicated today.

[@darwincity]

Damn, kids are running in theatres while the movie is playing? I thought my current residence, Brussels, was filled with hyper kids, but this is something else.

[@jeffsmithfpv]

We need a streaming service for indie films

[@kylegibbard]

On the other hand, I saw Batman with my wife and we were in a row of 14-16 year old kids and they were all well behaved, quiet, and respectful. So, you win some you lose some.

[@benhallmey8180]

Could not agree more cinema manners just don't exist anymore.

[@CoreChamber]

They used to pay directors to go off and make the movies that the directors wants. Now they pay the director to make their movie. So the movie relates more to a board of people than a world full of possible directors, I agree. Video games have this same dilemma, Studios bring you more of the same where indies have to explore new ideas to get noticed.

[@bighands69]

It was several things that destroyed the industry. The movie committees in corporations and the move away from film in cinema to digital. A 35mm celluloid shown on a projector has a resolution of about 8k and colors that no digital system can even come close to. Digital looks horrible playing horrible films is a reason why the industry is in a tail spin.

[@keithode1737]

@@bighands69 As a film photographer who hates digital for serious photography I couldn't agree more.

[@alexcarlone7967]

Both happens

[@ConanOG]

That's why everything new and interesting in games came from indies and not AAA games, you don't see anything new from the big games.

[@LikeCarvingACake]

What about A24? They seem to make quality flicks left and right.

[@dertythegrower]

Hollywood is crumbling fast, along with Disney.. Great to watch 🍿

[@dertythegrower]

Get a job boy boys in india.. nobody falling for those, get a real job in tech..?

[@dertythegrower]

@Boluga Get a job Omugly in saudi... we know its you with 9 sock accounts to share your thing down all the page.. you should be banned.

[@User-54631]

22billion revenue in the first 3 months of 2022. 67 billion in 2021 What’s your idea of success?

[@tobe1207]

I don't know you but assuming you're the average person. You say that but you still want to primarily watch movies and showa right?

[@jaredgrube6320]

Yea no.

[@azchick1820]

This conversation with Mamet was spot on in showing the huge emotional uplift that films used to have to current obsequious and vacuous films of today. Great to hear another adult brave enough to even mention what’s happened in Hollywood film making. Hollywood won’t excoriate him because he’s “old” and not a threat to mainstream bubble that is Hollywood .

[@catherineshaw1122]

@bobby macallister no, actually, it hasn't. Not to the degree that it has been in recent years.

[@catherineshaw1122]

@bobby macallister you're allowed to be wrong, lol.

[@catherineshaw1122]

@bobby macallister I know, I was just kidding.

[@JcakRitchie]

“Brave enough” 😂 Its literally spoken about all the time. It’s simple business, no conspiracy.

[@yannick2047]

David Mamet as a guest is a real surprise. Joe has been killing it lately!

[@pigactor]

Mamet did the movie Redbelt.

[@scottmilano2940]

Yes, went right to Mamet’s IMDB page hoping he had a movie in the works, but nada.

[@yannick2047]

@@pigactor You‘re right, I did not know that movie. Then this movie and also the headband David wears in the video make the connection pretty obvious. I still have to check out the Full interview on Spotify. This should be interesting …

[@yannick2047]

@@scottmilano2940 yeah, Mamet has always been more of a theatre guy in my book. He made some cult movies in the late 80s/early 90s and everything he did from then on is not so well known to me. However, he wrote and published a great book on how to direct film. On the other hand, as far as I know he won pretty much every award a playwright can possibly win (although I am much more of a Cineast than an expert on American theatre …)

[@selangor-irish4470]

Jew

[@stardustchild5182]

David Mamet has made a bunch of really great movies..I really miss the old Hollywood

[@ottoginafiel5468]

Yeah I just watched Heist

[@scottymacdewder5229]

Red belt is one of my all time favs

[@docsavage8640]

Spanish Prisoner is another

[@dolphin069]

House of Games.

[@maxmeier532]

Great movies are still being made. Shitty movies have been made in the past. There was nothing fancy about how the Hollywood system worked.

[@gillianm9185]

What a legend ! So many amazing screenplays. A true talent 👏 👏

[@alwaysoutafterdark6136]

And one of the greatest TV series ever made...The Unit.

[@staytrue9209]

"Whoever owns twitter owns commerce." Elon: Hold my beer.

[@Cadinho93]

Will Smith is a real one. I could never defend someone else's girl like that.

[@RSST662]

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[@makinen06]

u must be as emotionally fragile as him to excuse his violence. weak ppl behave like that.

[@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns]

@@makinen06 they are making a joke at Will's expense.

[@DrPrymeTyme]

She’s not your girl it’s just your turn with her

[@tep1962]

🤣🤣🤣

[@thor775]

This was such an interesting video. He's right, the only thing Hollywood is capable of is reusing old ideas. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle despite having endless resources

[@genox3636]

If you've been watching movies over the last 30 years, that point is pretty obvious.

[@alidi4144]

And stealing old music

[@JerseyJersey100]

It’s not about being incapable it’s all about return on investment aka greed at the top. The investors want to cater to the most mindless movie watchers bc they’re easy marks…just like US politics But like every other industry ruined by greed from the top the simple masses just lazily blame it on politics…because they’re instructed to

[@ashiibabiibbcluver2167]

It's all ccp ran we know

[@chrisbova9686]

@@ashiibabiibbcluver2167 And who gave the reigns to ccp? You'l probably never guess, but China doesn't take over the world that quick without permission from the owners of the world. All roads lead to Rome.

[@ohjesswhatamess]

I have to agree with him. That’s why we keep getting remakes and franchises. They have a successful superhero, they make the merch, they then follow up with another subpar movie to keep the character relevant and the merch selling… I hope we’ll be blessed with more Tarantinoesque people creating new, thought provoking movies soon. 🤞

[@rustyspigot1876]

And I hope we never have to be subjected to hipster-esque, quasi-provocative revenge fantasies peppered with racial slurs and cliche soundtracks ever again. And I'd love to hear what thoughts a Tarantino film ever "provoked" in you.... I'll assume they went something like this.... "Wow, imagine a world where jews, women and blacks were actually formidable forces in the universe!, Wow man! N-word, N-word, N-word etc....."

[@Craig-gq4gb]

@@rustyspigot1876 If you don’t rate Tarantino then you have no taste

[@rustyspigot1876]

@@Craig-gq4gb Your response was well thought out and delicately nuanced. Clearly the thought process of someone with "taste". I'll take it as a given that you think "Requiem for a Dream" is the perfect date movie. Enjoy being spoon-fed your culture.

[@Craig-gq4gb]

@@rustyspigot1876 Going to the cinema is a shit date no matter the movie, why go somewhere that you can't talk to get to know someone? Love how you assume things about people even though your assumptions are completely wrong. Also, who would you 'rate' if Tarantino doesn't do it for you?

[@sakurasfish2115]

@@rustyspigot1876 i love tarantino but liked and agree your roast of him 😆 To be fair i love his movies mainly cause they're different. A bit funny, a bit rough, and going from serious to silly, from slow paced to crazyness in seconds...i don't think they're that great but is not another batman/spiderman

[@TheNameisPlissken1981]

House of Games, Things Change and Homicide were the first three films David Mamet wrote and directed and they are all fantastic! I miss his films. One of the greatest writers of all time!

[@jefbretschneider1607]

The Spanish Prisoner...Heist...Glengarry Glen Ross...and many more. The man is prolific. He delivers!

[@beuller7]

David Mamet is incredible. And incredibly wise. I can listen to him speak for hours. His book on acting, True & False, is an OUTSTANDING read whether you’re an actor or not. Easily one of my top 5 books of all time.

[@ArsalanKhan-yn3wi]

Glengarry Glen Ross is one of the greatest screenplays of all time.

[@hotrox2112]

The magnitude of talent in one film has yet to be matched

[@barrysmith5830]

i love the fact that the entire film has only 3 or 4 locations...the story and the acting carry the film.

[@GetAsCloseAsYouCan]

Bro, that was a play first. Aside from Pachino and Baldwin, that film is slow and ass.

[@gabrielhersey5546]

Lebowski Shawshank Anything Quintin Tarantino Old timey noir flicks

[@hotrox2112]

@@gabrielhersey5546 Tarantino as you stated, doesn't make the top ten of Director's.

[@mranonymous1966]

Great point about "The Method of distribution determines the content"....definitely applies in the music industry as well...... both positively and negatively

[@istvanthehun2064]

David Mamet is an American treasure and cultural icon!

[@cos2mer2]

I LOVE Mamet! His Masterclass series was the most memorable of the bunch. Thank you David, and Joe!

[@KG-ii2yx]

Wow never thought I’d see a fellow course attendee

[@dolphin069]

Joe Mantegna!

[@capiseric]

@@KG-ii2yx More class members! I loved his take on plot. I could tell he wasn't in line with the current Hollywood just watching his class..

[@michaeljackson8390]

@@dolphin069 ❤️

[@bagofboom252]

Mamet is cinema incarnate. His creations & vision & groundwork for story are what "films" nowadays should aspire to be. Just his characters alone are... well, they just ARE. Heist with Hackman & DeVito is the most underrated film ever in my opinion. Even The Unit was an amazing work.... Wish someone would just give him some blank checks & let him do whatever he wanted.

[@XBadluckchuckX]

“Who owns Twitter controls the commerce” hits different all of a sudden…

[@bighands69]

He is talking about all the VOD services.

[@IceColdProfessional]

Who ever owns Twitter owns blah, blah, blah.

[@XBadluckchuckX]

​@@bighands69 Yes but I’m not

[@madworker1927]

@@IceColdProfessional Elon Musk is on board let's goooooo

[@Patrick3183]

I don’t even use twitter

[@creepyjoe1025]

He's 💯 correct. The same thing has happened to the music industry.

[@nathanpopp2721]

Frank Zappa said basically the same thing about the music industry. It used to be the execs were cigar-chomping businessmen who knew nothing about what people wanted to hear, so they let the artists put out what they wanted to make. These guys were willing to take a chance. But then those old execs got replaced by younger snobs who thought they knew more about what people wanted to hear than the artists, so the industry became more formulaic in music production and less encouraging of artists to take risks and be truly inventive.

[@MichaelJames-lz7ni]

Technology allows the artist to self-record, self-promote, and self-produce. The "record-company" business model is obsolete, and completely unnecessary. Billie Eilish has proven to the world that you don't need corporate grift to 'make it' in the music business.

[@curtisnucmed]

I am so thankful for these discussions. Thanks for keeping me interested Joe!

[@readingtips2690]

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[@RSST662]

My DNA is not related to Jesus Christ .

[@michaeljackson8390]

@@RSST662 ⛈️

[@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat]

_"Pig-Latin with each other's pronouns"_ 😆 😆 😆 That deft Mamet dialogue! Classic.

[@kxkxkxkx]

Omo-hay 😆

[@citizen1163]

@Geronimo Agree! Brilliant! Not so brilliant was Joe Rogan who seemed like he'd rather be somewhere else. Disappointing.

[@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat]

@@citizen1163 Well, Rogan is moderately intelligent but only a philistine would ever characterize him as achieving any level of brilliance outside of popular noteriety.

[@citizen1163]

@@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat Ouch! 😆 I only watch for certain guests when JR always appeared totally absorbed, unlike this time. David Mamet deserved better.

[@neuuser7071]

@@citizen1163 I think this interview was a little over his head but I applaud him for taking a different direction than his usual athlete/influencer terrain. David Mamet has something to say and joes audience should relate to him even if he’s outside their normal world.

[@sparfarkel1266]

David Mamet is so intelligent and articulates societal issues brilliantly 👏👌 spot on!!!

[@marekpetrik29]

Articular? Please listen to the whole show, he's struggling to express himself clearly & presents several parallels that are reaally off throughout the show

[@RJRussoVids]

Mamet’s the master of dialogue heavy, character driven films, which are basically plays that have been transferred to the big screen. Most movies today are about stars, action and technology. The younger generation has really been trained to only enjoy the latter. It’s all they know. Too bad for them. 😂

[@RustyPitchforkStudio]

Agree with everything he said here. I literally just left the film industry a week ago because of how far it's falling, and how it's crumbling under the weight of it's own hypocrisy.

[@IceColdProfessional]

Yeah? Do you believe in Blah, blah, blah?

[@pikebishop8516]

@@IceColdProfessional blah blah blah 😂😊😅

[@IceColdProfessional]

@@pikebishop8516 blah, Blah, BLAH....

[@CarGroves]

Left eats the left

[@kerbal666]

Frank Zappa said the same thing about the music industry back the the 70s

[@gabebabe1]

David - your scripts are amazing - you’re one of the greats.

[@jessejohnson7591]

I didn't understand it all but this is very enjoyable to watch. I love it when Joe just gets interesting characters with great stories.

[@cxo9378]

How stupid could you get?

[@nawtmyrealnamelol]

The issue is artistic expression becomes less significant and more watered down. This happens naturally when you have movies with budgets of tens of millions of dollars and hundreds of people working on it. People are more concerned with creating something profitable rather than something artistically significant, because creative expression is far more financially risky

[@SallyMankus130]

@@bbbkkk3034 Actually, no, this is the issue with most films. They simply end up being illustrated literature. Cinema needs to go beyond that. I agree that social commentary should only be a byproduct of a certain vision, but the evocation of emotions is far more important than a story. Great cinema isn't about informing.

[@kermitfrog593]

That's not entirely true. I'm a fan of horror, and the genre has experienced a renaissance post 2000s. A lot of it has to do with the advent of the digital camera and artists making movies on a smaller budget, and having more creative license. Lotta great indy work out there but they don't have a marketing budget so consumers have to find it. In a way, the internet itself is the new way of promoting films, and it's free. So it's a bad time for mainstream film but a good time for indies.

[@AnonymousanonymousA]

Get Erin Marie Olszewski nurse whistleblower on the show!

[@cerryyff3921]

🌈THE CUTE GIRL ARE🌈 SWEET-GIRL.UNO/Vibes de los mejores 🍑 11:12 Sun: "Hotter" 11:12 Hopi: "Sweeter" 00:18 Joonie: "Cooler" 18:00 Yoongi: "Butter" 15:55 Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente..

[@lynnturman8157]

Eugene O'Neal, Tennessee Williams, Arthur Miller, David Mamet...this guy is one of the faces on Mt. Rushmore of great American playwrites. Attention must be paid.

[@kreek22]

This is the weakest genre of American literature and doesn't merit a Mt. Rushmore. Nobody even reads Miller anymore, with the possible exception of his one lucky strike.

[@kermitfrog593]

Yup, he's on the mount for sure. Maybe the only modern playwright on there.

[@lynnturman8157]

@@kreek22 ha ha....these four guys arguably had more to do with changing the collective American zeitgeist than any four writers of the 20th century

[@mookie7688]

@@lynnturman8157 I would argue that Edward Albee, Sam Shepard, August Wilson, Lorraine Hansberry, and Tony Kushner deserve to be included in that conversation.

[@mookie7688]

@@kreek22 Miller's one lucky strike? Which one was that? All My Sons? The Crucible? A View From The Bridge? After the Fall? I assume you mean Death of a Salesman, but Arthur Miller's career writing for stage and screen spanned SIX DECADES. His work continues to be revived and adapted at every level of theater production in this century.

[@cptmtns]

Same thing has happened to the video games industry. Power has been taken away from the devs and now publishers have complete control. The problem is that both directors and video game developers want to create an amazing experience but the corporate overlords only want a product.

[@OEFTF11]

@@Houndguardian Your using games like Pokémon Arceus as a benchmark for high quality video game production? Bruh hahahaha. Thanks for proving his point right dummy. Games most definitely have been commercialized and most triple A games focus more on shareholders than consumers. Elden Ring and Horizon Forbidden West were the only games in your list of trash worth any praise. In the early 2000s there was a plethora of high quality games catered to their player base with that same quality of care in Elden Ring released every three months not every three years. No pay to play, no repeat delayed releases, no beta release Ponzi schemes, no loot boxes, no woke propaganda, and they had several game labels competing at the time with no major mergers. You know absolutely zero of what you’re talking about.

[@OEFTF11]

@@Houndguardian Yea Captain Obvious you’re finally right about something, corporate interests destroy game quality using a model of low output high income and marketing strategies. So if we can agree corporatism is bad for making quality games then you would have to be living in a fantasy world if you think there was just as much corporate interests involved in gaming in the early 2000s compared to 2022. Are you really gonna die on this hill?

[@OEFTF11]

@james tiberius Where do you think the market for indie games came from? Stir that one around in the little peanut. Also was I talking about indie games or Triple A games? Indie games are all over but they only represent 28% of the total game market. The other 72% are Triple A games. Indie games are niche and don't have the budgets for a major production. My very point was that Triple A games were being made every 3 months in the early 2000s. And it's not MY opinion buddy, it's the consensus amongst gamers. Google the decline of gaming. There are literally hundreds of articles and videos dedicated to the subject that you think is exclusively my opinion.

[@logic2818]

@james tiberius What about you? Where are your facts? Do you have any to support your argument? So why say someone doesn't have them without supporting any yourself? I tend to think gaming has declined quite a bit just in the last 10 years. It's become acceptable for AAA games to release so botched that players have to wait for an update before being able to play the game. An overabundance of remakes, remasters, and sequels that floods the market without changing textures, assets, or gameplay. Look at Skyrim SE or the entire Far Cry series. The corporatization of gaming and shady practices of publishers and developers promising features that are never added to the game or adding pay to play models to their games after promising their player base they wouldn't. Today AAA games listen more to their investors than their player base, why do you think a behemoth like World of Warcraft would continuously piss off their players by adding WoW tokens, level boosts, and store mounts when they were universally detested by the players themselves? It's because shareholders only care about bottom line and not the player experience. In the end the greed usually begins to deteriorate the player base and the games eventual bottom line is hurt but that takes time. World of Warcraft is a perfect example of that.

[@logic2818]

@james tiberius If your opinions are as lackadaisical as your quips it explains a lot.

[@scottymacdewder5229]

"Red belt" is one of my all time favorite films.... "Everything has a force, you can deflect it or absorb it, but why oppose it?"

[@stimpy2695]

Nice, Redbelt is very under-appreciated. I remember watching it when it came out. Great Film!

[@mattstacey69]

Watching this a second time, I THINK he's saying that films aren't made with heart and a level of love and ingenuity and inspiration. Like the first Star Wars film (1977). Now they're made with all these fearful decisions. Like the latest Star Wars movie. I think that's what he's getting at: how films are BORN now.

[@LadyJay114]

Exactly. I think most of the movies in the 70s made by guys like him, Friedkin, DePalma, Altman, Cassavetes, etc. wouldn't be made today.

[@robertturner4168]

Bring the unit back for a final season. God I loved that show

[@anonymouscoward7559]

I liked hearing him reference Milton Freeman, a great man.

[@chuyozuna2398]

Who

[@TheTmcabral3]

1:43 “pig Latin with each other’s pronouns” lmfao

[@feral4112]

Ya I’m sure they’ll be an article about Spotify employees demanding this episode be removed in the near future

[@NumberOneCOHEN]

Thank you David Mamet for one of the best tv series . THE UNIT . Stay safe

[@skepticalgenious]

Love the video's man. Life is wonderful and beautiful. Even through all the dooty.

[@MichaelKeeth]

The get off my lawn and go to church vibe is strong with this one.

[@sandollor]

Shitlord comes to mind. He's not wrong about the marketing committees and board meeting decisions that take away from film, but he's one hell of a crotchety old man and this is coming from someone that's 40.

[@throeawae2130]

@@sandollor I'm 40 and I say you're a damned fool if you're not crotchety in these times.

[@deraykrause4517]

The man's enunciation is on point!

[@sirg-had8821]

I would love to hear David Mamet and Javier Bardem have a chat over whiskey.

[@jrporter50]

Hollywood's so crass that Jim Carrey is the voice of reason 😂

[@Remi-bt7tp]

Jim Carey is just another woke lunatic Hollywood elitist, the latest issue is just an example of the woke eating the woke. It’s so funny to sit back and watch when these issues arise and watch how confused and erratic that whole scene gets with all of them running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

[@maceyprice9658]

He's like honest Abe... Can tell no lies😂✅

[@juki1x]

The automobile analogy is the best. Creativity has to be left up to the individual and you have to allow for failure, but that's where you get greatness and art that affects culture.

[@jeffreycollins7297]

THis is wild. Just two days ago I was looking through my library and came across my book of his THE VILLAGE. And now I see this. WOW. Thanks Joe!

[@clintcalvert9250]

I see a clear disconnect between David and the question that Joe keeps asking him.

[@jamescarr5818]

bring back the 90s that's when classics were made

[@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns]

The 90s was the last great decade for really innovative movies and music.

[@austinarnold155]

Such a great decade. Goodfellas, dumb and dumber, pulp fiction, forest gump, toy story, boogie nights, casino, fight club, Billy Madison, saving private ryan, heat, good will hunting, and Tommy Boy.

[@mrmagoozle]

@@austinarnold155 how could you forget The shawshank redemption, usual suspects and green mile!

[@dolphin069]

70s and 80s.

[@austinarnold155]

@@mrmagoozle oh dude I knew I was forgetting some.

[@swesleyc7]

He quoted Friedman. And he hates sounding like a Marxist. The man has earned my respect and attention.

[@xGribbles]

Unregulated capitalism has never led to any issues of course.

[@beatonthedonis]

Friedman is the precise reason why Hollywood films are now made by a committee of 30 people obsessing about pronouns.

[@xGribbles]

@@beatonthedonis Exactly, his idea of unregulated free markets has led to corporations having so much power over public discourse.

[@swesleyc7]

@@beatonthedonis Elaborate.

[@ryansmith1228]

@@xGribbles that's not unregulated capitalism, that's crony capitalism. That's corporation's getting so big and using the political system we have now to push the regulations they want enforced on competition. In an unregulated market you wouldn't have big Pharma paying off politicians so that they put in laws that make damn sure no small company can make the same medicine for a fraction of the price

[@SethCrimson]

I didn't even know who this guy was haven't really seen any of his movies but really enjoyed this podcast with him

[@user-xs2si3zu9p]

One of the few Hollywood figures who appears to have remained sane. Love his films and the man seems very self critical and honest. His work is partly ciphered a la ACD, Tolstoy, or like his fellow film maker Sergio Leone. Only their styles are different. There's a hidden layer underneath even the superb and detailed dialogues he writes. Multi faceted genius.

[@Christo_Coop]

“You don’t know.” - that is the most important line in this whole video.

[@pikebishop8516]

Blah blah blah is the most important line.

[@alexchis1610]

Very insightful conversation from David and Joe. I looked up David on Wikipedia he’s been involved with all the brilliant actors. One of my favourite films Glengarry Glen Ross he did the screenplay for. All star young cast Jack Lemmon Al Pacino Kevin Spacey Alec Baldwin Ed Harris Jonathon Pryce Alan Arkin Worth a look

[@Sinnerswing]

Loved his screenplay for the film GlenGarry Glenn Ross.

[@shiven513]

Friedkin and Mamet are right about inflation and how it's greatly impacted Hollywood and how good movies have been lost in how special it use to be.

[@bigblue1287]

Everybody would've forgot that joke in 15 seconds but will Smith just made everyone remember it forever

[@readingtips2690]

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[@readingtips2690]

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[@phantomshtter]

How many times have you copy and pasted that comment in the last 7 days?

[@dannyromano3664]

Because it was staged. Hollywood fakery

[@cis4cawky275]

Do they write the same dumb shit on purpose to annoy people?

[@davidsummerville351]

What an interesting guest! Only Joe can find these people. Great episode. Thanks.

[@michaeljackson8390]

@MINI DIVA ❣️

[@bobboots7689]

Only Joe can find an old cranky Hollywood weirdos?

[@randomtees]

"Only Joe can find these people" If you believe that, you're not looking. You must be a slave to the algorithm.

[@christopherallen9580]

@Robocrop joe is gen x

[@ryancalhoun2910]

Only Joe can find David Mamet? Really?

[@zeebs5668]

wow so much wisdom in so little time

[@deborahs2593]

David Mamet - wow. He gets it. The suits decide. Not the creative guys with an idea for a movie. And as much as we love our Netflix, NOTHING can replace the experience of "let's go see a movie". Sinking into those seats, in a dark theater, losing time and space for 90 minutes. It was a country-wide shared experience. Now? So many choices of streaming this or that, a zillion shows you can watch. It's exhausting. Great interview snippet, thanks!

[@Lumbeelegend]

Idk man. Look at young creators on KZbin nowadays. They make movie like cinema in their guest bedrooms. This is the era of the independent makers. Its cheaper, better and easier now, more than ever.

[@filabila]

Man i have missed so much rogan since the switch from youtube its sooo unfortunate

[@donaldblack5530]

I watch all of his videos for free on spotify without signing up

[@filabila]

@@donaldblack5530 i have spotify and i pay for it.. but i find i still dont listen now that hes switched. Maybe its the format of spotify its not very intriguing

[@IceColdProfessional]

@@filabila It's because you don't have the rich, vibrant KZbin community to chat with "in real time" while watching. Just admit it, you want us to watch it with you.

[@rhysjones1108]

Sooo shitty. I live in an area where only KZbin and Facebook work reliably. Can’t watch Twitch, can’t use Spotify or Instagram. Going from watching him every podcast for 8 years and then having to go cold turkey only getting random 3 min clips on KZbin was hard lol

[@LaLaGrunge]

Rogan is so stoned that he is having difficulty comprehending Mamet’s basic points.

[@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia]

For a guy who’s such a great writer & has taught classes & written books on dialogue, he certainly says “blah blah blah” a lot..

[@damnbruh7612]

He’s right on the principle but he’s wrong about the fact that there isn’t anymore independent films being made.

[@russt9478]

I see what you mean but these small movies are shot on cheap cameras and have micro budgets

[@pahwraith]

Its arguably easier than ever. I have a blackmagic 6k on my shelf right now. I have a small lighting/grip truck in my driveway. Its amazing what me and 2 other person can capture alone.

[@jancan9968]

@UC-LZmUnAQkqKDzt_vWzdriw This is from. Commie tube it can't be deleted KZbin are all child molesters

[@bighands69]

@@pahwraith You are not making movies you are making video's and pretending they are movies. Movies are shot on film and digital is just video.

[@undrsonr5316]

@@bighands69 wrong. Movies are about emotions progression in a narrative form. More like music than literature, as Kubrick said. Also some amazing movies have been shot even with consumer cameras, as Upstream Color from Shane carruth. Sicario is a great movie, shot with a digital camera, Alexa,, haywire is a good b action flick, shot with a digital camera, red, zodiac is one of if not the best David fincher movie, shot with a digital camera, phantom… but you are right, having a Blackmagic 6K and some lights and not gathering a group of friends, Conrads,with the passion to share an overall emotion via a narrative visual structure doesn’t make some one a filmmaker… and most KZbin filmmakers, you are right again, are just making videos and not telling real meaningful stories.

[@krapart]

Mamet is great. If you haven't seen state and main its phenomenal

[@mcst6969]

The drinker made a great (and cut to a short clip) interview with the latest hellboy director and its great. It goes straight to the point!

[@joshuaoregel3776]

I love that GM Ford analogy so tru

[@liljoe5139]

I’m still in “SHOCK” after watching the New Oreo Cookie commercial of a boy coming out as ????? whatever you call them….

[@housespecial7855]

Wtf? For real? I'm in the UK btw

[@jancan9968]

Ban them

[@emenikeanigbogu9368]

Joe you Can stop hiding that you’re gay just come out

[@emenikeanigbogu9368]

@@jancan9968 you gay too huh

[@frisc0strangler207]

Missed that one… awe shucks

[@JohnRegansReviewsTutorialsMore]

Paraphrasing Roger Scruton. "Everyone is conservative when it comes to things they care about." Regardless of politics, we want to see things we care about preserved, and if they must change, we want that change to be only for the betterment of the thing we care about.

[@saltstikx]

That is a dumb ass quote. I want the things I care about to evolve and grow. I don‘t want to simply protect some rigid and dying thing!

[@Papagiorgio153]

@@saltstikx Well, the reason that "thing" is dying is because clowns try to force it to "evolve and grow"

[@throeawae2130]

"We want that change" "Everyone is a conservative" Contradictory.

[@Solaris501]

A huge part of the problem is over saturation. Even if you make a great indie film, how can you possibly stand out on these streaming services which have massive libraries including things they’ve produced and are putting up front.

[@artstrology]

Finding work and help is immediately solved if implementing calendar reform. The calendars used to be based on analyzing skills and purpose. We had that for thousands of years.

[@DOOMStudios]

Hollywood has been running out of ideas a lot recently lol.

[@anonony9081]

You mean you don't want to see batman for the twentieth time?

[@DOOMStudios]

@@anonony9081 some films are good but movies are just getting boring now

[@TheFlash-rh2el]

It’s more like rejecting of ideas

[@TheFlash-rh2el]

@@anonony9081 Ironically the majority of the commenters here went to Batman despite your point being true

[@dylanweaver7128]

Not really, it's just the mainstream movies that get marketed everywhere that are like that. There are still hundreds of lower budget films getting released in theaters amc on streaming services that are great amc unique.

[@kaytwo_]

GI Jane 2, can't wait to see it 🤣

[@stephenlund539]

Enjoyed this interview but was amazed at how many comments of David's went right over Joe's head.

[@wesleyboyd2714]

Cant remember the last decent movie i saw? Anyone got any inspiration?

[@jacobfield4848]

"Everything was better in the past.".....Amazing input from David Mamet.

[@phantomshtter]

If anyone were listening to enact change it would be.

[@sferrin2]

That is frequently the case.

[@celozzip]

he has no idea what he's talking about

[@mightisright]

The "everything" part is not true. The rest is okay.

[@MrDickharder]

One movie a year made with a soul and heart is definetely not enough.

[@jasonmelton9755]

The Lot Studios, near the Formosa Cafe in West Hollywood, is where a lot of mainstream directors would make independent films in the old days.

[@MilesCobbett]

David your movie Verdict with Paul Newman was Great! Hmmm sounds like not much chance of my HW Boxing book Champion being made into a Hollywood movie eh?

[@mattstacey69]

It's an increasingly shrinking echo chamber. Hollywood has worked HARD for their own destruction. They've EARNED it.

[@jonathangarlinghouse]

There is a future where Hollywood bends the knee to KZbin as one of the major distributors of entertainment content. One major tell is every studio pushes content hard on YT. YT is a viable distribution vertical and it's a beautiful thing for independent filmmakers out there.

[@bighands69]

KZbin tried to get into the content and movie business but failed. Netflix, apple and Amazon are the major players. Warner and Paramount are now trying to get into the game a well. There is Disney now as well.

[@jonathangarlinghouse]

@@bighands69 they tried, once. Google is patient. I am sure they are working on a new angle. The markets are up for grabs. I regard Amazon more as an adjunct studio. I do not think they are leaders. Netflix is a content king, but watch back the Mr Beast ep. He makes more views than Netflix has subscribers. I know there are many variables, but YT has some untapped financial leverage that I think they have been gathering. This is why I said there is a future... We'll see as things play out, but I don't disagree with you.

[@brken_blndie]

@@bighands69 do people watch as many movies tho?

[@bighands69]

@@jonathangarlinghouse Netflix is now producing trash. They have not produced any good series in several years.

[@konodioda1268]

Odysee will best KZbin eventually......hopefully

[@straytenwhitenormell7759]

Huh? What was this interview about? Didn't understand one word of it. Confusing.

[@se7en910]

I watched jurrasic park at 5 in the cinema and have never forgotten the experience. That's my last time I had an amazing cinematic experience.

[@tylerdordon99]

One of the best writers in the history of Hollywood.

[@EJH-jn6mo]

David Mamet has written and made some incredible movies with such great detail and dialogue. Shame so many mouthbreathers just want to watch Mickey Mouse marvel CGI bullshit anymore.

[@steverino6954]

Any genre can be good or bad. It's up to the writer and director to do quality work.

[@thebluestig2654]

You claim that people only want to watch Marvel CGI, but the last 3 Marvel movies have flopped. The craving for comic movies is waning because the woke mob infected them and nobody wants to watch that crap.

[@jamesbridges7750]

He's made some pretty interesting stuff- Watching season 2 of The Unit and Spartan on more than a superficial level will blow your mind.

[@unbroken1010]

@Keyy^8💫 you make no sense

[@readingtips2690]

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[@Acethadon1234]

There was something special about pre-internet shows and movies. I find myself addicted to older pre 2010s media.

[@jolyoo]

Why can't listen to JRE podcasts in Iraq !!!, spotify please help??

[@JeffAdairKTM530]

Mel gibson was right about hollywood and the agenda

[@pierce9870]

Quiet the antisemtic comment

[@Brian-vk1hm]

@@pierce9870 What if it is just blatantly obvious?

[@josephgriffin2388]

Your skirting time in the youtube jockey bin!! Look, Malon Brando said this stuff back in the 1970's. Nothing new.

[@guccimalcs]

@@pierce9870 and what’s wrong with that? You need to learn how fucked up they are and how much they control/own.

[@benjaminz2523]

@@pierce9870 khazars are not Semitic.

[@AndyScar2030]

Right on cool video!!!😊 god bless everyone!!😇

[@doctorxplorer159]

nice video

[@TrapMint]

“Playing piglatin with each others pronouns” gold

[@carlalakins]

Absolutely!!

[@natemarx4999]

Mamet sounds like a man imitating the voice of a giantess.

[@luispereira6838]

back in my day...never gets old Btw streaming services have been making some really cool movies that studios dont touch. But hes talking about kodak.

[@Dapryor]

“Playing Pig Latin with each other’s pronouns.” 😂😂