2021 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc Review - Better than Trek Emonda and Specialized Tarmac?

[@stamatiosdouvos1442]

I had a TCR 1 back in 2006 and I was cycling average 500k/week until 2009. I never had a single issue with the bike and I remember the comfortable ride and the responsiveness it had. For various reasons life took me in different paths and I hadn’t cycle ever since. Yesterday I bought this exact bike after test driving several other bikes the last few weeks. I couldn’t be happier! I am so pumped to be back into the wonderful cycling community! Thank you for your reviews and safe miles to everyone!

[@Matt-cp9wh]

I did the same bro, just back now and searching for a bike. thinking the tcr is the choice

[@faonesti]

I bought a TCR ADV PRO TEAM (CCC) and put a Di2 ... and I love her any single moment of riding! Amazing bike 360°

[@kcsdane]

Same here best decision and bike I have ever had

[@cosminciuraru]

Hi faonesti, Besides the paint job and the stem angle of 10 degree (vs 8 degree), are there other differences between the Pro Team CCC version and the Pro 1? Thanks

[@faonesti]

@@cosminciuraru it has an SL handlebar instead an SLR (carbon).

[@paginini]

Im thinking of choosing a tcr pro or s works tarmac 2021 sl7 pro any tips?

[@garythomasson6686]

Purchased one in April , subsequent 10000k and 100k vertical , with no issues ,really nice bike to ride and so comfy, power meters so good to use . Only down side poor cable routing

[@Sarncho]

I absolutely love my 2020 Pro Disc 2. My first road bike and it’s bloody great. Was lucky enough to get one before all the madness of COVID.

[@Dee-Ell]

THIS is the video I have been waiting for for months. The final verdict on the new TCR Pro. Thank you!

[@1nickybe]

Also glad to see the final review. Was lucky enough to buy one, and it is a step change from my old Defy.

[@Dee-Ell]

@@1nickybe Planning to get mine early next year. Stock for my size has been extremely low where I live. How is the comfort compared to the Defy?

[@1nickybe]

@@Dee-Ell my Defy is a 2016 Advanced model, so not the latest of Giant's 'endurance' tech. But I'd say comfort is in the same ball park, with a bit more road feel, which on a bike as reactive and as fast as it is, is something you want. I've only had it for 2 months and have cycled a few long'ish runs on it, the longest being over 80 miles, and would happily cycle more.

[@tritruong8125]

@@1nickybe Thanks for your thoughts on comfort. I was debating the Defy vs TCR and your response has pushed me towards choosing the TCR.

[@dreyn7780]

Another reactionry person lies. Fool.

[@OGSTEFAN]

bought a TCR advanced pro 2 after watching the other two videos. Great bike. Thanks for your videos!!!

[@davidarthur]

Happy to help 😎

[@87togabito]

To be honest, I’ve never really felt that the component on a bike should ever be a strong deciding factor on bicycle choice. You can always upgrade the parts of a frame at a later date. However, you can’t upgrade the frame, short of buying a new bike. At which point you might as well just have gone with other bike to begin with. In short, buy the bike you want, parts be damned.

[@seaton0908]

I just got this tcr pro 1 XS disc 2021 last week . Its a fantastic machine. Well balanced. I don't mind with outer cables. The power meter work perfectly. Fall in love with the bike

[@bobbytechnical7932]

Thanks David 🙏. I feel confident in picking up a TCR as my 1st road bike based on your reviews & comparisons. Appreciate the honesty and comprehensive overviews (over your series of tcr videos). You addressed all my questions about the bike including: comfort, bottom bracket creeks, ideal tire width, even free-hub noise. It might not be the perfect bike but seems to be the best value and best features-to-downsides ratio for me. Thanks again! (Also, your videography is excellent! Keep up the great work!!)

[@emploice.muswashghans]

My TCR is expected to be delivered in 2 weeks! Can't wait!

[@rockmountbmxer]

So was mine. Called them to check and it’s now January 5th.... wanted to sell my Tarmac ahead of Christmas.

[@Godspeed961]

WHoohoooo !

[@Mububban23]

How is the TCR?

[@emploice.muswashghans]

@@Mububban23 Just brilliant. Fast, comfortable and beautiful. 2000km in and loving it!

[@harrylook7810]

Can't wait to see one of these in person. Love the TCR and Giant - keeping their competitors honest.

[@rockmountbmxer]

I was so pleased when i saw one having ordered without seeing it. Looked stunning IMO. I have bought things blind I've not overly liked lol.

[@evangossell1980]

I'm still waiting

[@pj9375]

@@evangossell1980 try de ver cycles in London . They stocked my small frame when everywhere was out. Delivered perfectly.

[@gerard45gh]

7.58kg no pedals that's heavy mate add your pedals and cages mines that weight all up with computer..

[@pj9375]

@@gerard45gh I’ve got a small frame rim brake version and weighed with pedals, 2x cages and mount comes in at 7.285kg.

[@jmtriatlon1227]

I bought this model in Barcelona, your previous comments encourage me to take this decission...it is a great bike with a good price. Thanks four your review!!

[@euruidelgado]

I have this exact model as shown in the video... the power meter was deal breaker. I love my tcr!

[@Lemond75]

Having just taken delivery of the same bike, and being out for my first ride on it today, I can only agree with your review. The bike is really smooth, the power transfer is very good indeed, and it feels fast (although to be fair, it’s the first bike I’ve had in years with deep section carbon wheels, and disc brakes for that matter). Whilst all my other bikes have Campag, I have to say that I’m very impressed with Ultegra. As other people have commented, the colour is a little muted, and I do prefer the paint schemes on some of the Emondas, but I didn’t see the point in getting a Trek which was significantly heavier, and arguably less well specced for the price. Keep up the good work on the channel, and thanks for helping me make my decision re this bike.

[@ramonsanabria1472]

Right on ! Arthur you are very credible and honest !

[@robari2410]

Thanks David great review, I always thought the Giant TCR was a great bike at the right price. My layman's review has been validated. As far as TREK not sending you a bike, well they are missing out, maybe afraid of your honest reviews! Thanks again 🙏🏻

[@benedictluongo3100]

Great review! Especially appreciate your reasoning for and against internal cable routing. Hope you’re able to get your hands on the Tarmac and Emonda soon!

[@etistours6650]

Thx for a great review. Just got mine based on your positive unbiased review and I can’t be happier. Great value for money.

[@2XFactor51]

Thanks for the well rounded review, even going so far as to “spec”ulate the bang for buck pros/cons against its peers. Having never looked at Giant before, not closely anyway, I was researching the next level up, with electronic shifting. Tarmac was the starting point, and it ranked favorably against all others...until I looked at Giant. I am choosing the mechanical version, first based on spec/price point, but also because of this review. I looked at other reviews on the same bike, and they supported your position. So, thank you, you just saved me some $$$😊👏🏼

[@syedshia2508]

Got one of these.... I absolutely love it. I feel it’s the best bike pound for pound value wise and performance wise on the market right now. Wouldn’t swap it even for a S-works. When I’m not on it.... I can’t wait to get back on it .

[@Lander76]

Do you think the tcr would make a good endurance bike with a shorter stem?

[@rohan-xc5mt]

@@Lander76 Absolutely!

[@desoriordan9515]

Getting a good bike fit before you buy is key. I like giant, I have the defy, brilliant comfort on poor road surfaces. TCR offers great value for money compared to the competition i think. Good video Dave.

[@odins_dough]

How does much difference is there between this and a Defy? Have you ridden one. Would love to know.

[@CBOBears]

Awesome review, you’re videos was one of the main reason why I bought this exact bike. Thanks!

[@sarguellesm]

Me too! Thanks for the review 👍🏼

[@jasondrew5130]

Have been riding mine for about 2000 kms on the whole very positive but two key issues 1. Power meter failed after 2 months ( then took 5 visits to the bike shop) before Giant admitted it was faulty. Suspect some quality control issues but great when it works 2. The hookless rims great until you get a flat then they are near impossible to get an inner tube into without a pinch flat.

[@seanmccuen6970]

hookless rim tech is shit.

[@johnnyarcher1]

This was a thoroughly unbiased awesome review

[@paul_hd1875]

Probably going to snag one of those frames for my wife. The PF BB issues are anecdotal... depends what climate you’re in, how often you maintain it, and how much riding you do. Once a year rebuild, or replace will solve any issues. It’s a $35 part... not gonna break the bank.

[@drtyjrze]

I have one. Love the bike but my BB had to be replaced within 100 miles. All good now.

[@paul_hd1875]

@@drtyjrze I've logged 500+ miles since October on a DUB BB30... not a single issue. My SW SL6 is a custom (frame up) build however... I'd be willing to bet most PF BB issues are from OEM built bikes.

[@albertmanzo9510]

Super technical review!! Always like the details in this review for comparisons on other bikes in same class! Cheeeers!!

[@Andy_ATB]

All nice bikes - but Giant are exceptional value for money. I've had 3 (2 TCX, 1 TCR) and they've all been faultless.

[@5veRodriguez]

Value for money is what keeps me coming back. Obviously performance is awesome as well.

[@trevorharrison2581]

You present your information very well in an honest way , without all the waffle you see in a lot of other bike reviews. Kudos to you for that David. Weirdly I was looking at the frameset you appear to have bought and had built up in your other video , wondering I I would be able to build up my first bike myself , as that frame colourway is awesome !! . I was looking for some videos on tcr builds when I came across yours and the link to this long term review . Keep the reviews coming

[@csplau]

I just got my tcr advanced pro 1 bike today. Pretty excited about it!

[@Smidge]

Just bought the Giant tcr advanced pro 2 for my first road bike so really looking forward to it! Couldn’t quite put the money out or find the right size of the pro 1. Thanks for the reviews buddy.

[@stahldurst]

Very good review. Your video was the decisive factor to buy the '22 TCR. I also love and hate the external cable routing.

[@davidarthur]

Thanks Stahldurst great to hear the video helped you choose your new bike :)

[@yonglingng5640]

This is classified as regular internal routing as some of its shift and brake lines still enter the frameset at some point. External routing only applies to 20th-century road bikes (and some 21st-century road bikes, more commonly on those made out of a metal) where you can see the entire shift and brake lines outside the frameset. Consider yourself fortunate to have a bike with a headset that's convenient to work on, servicing it can be done in less than an hour and an LBS wouldn't charge you as much since it's easier for them.

[@davidnicholson6680]

Thanks for this review, many good points here. Giants are generally excellent bikes with good riding characteristics, reasonable prices, and great manufacturing quality. One quick thing: mechanics I've talked to think the BB86 bottom bracket standard is the least problematic of the various press fit standards. BB30, PF30 and BB90 setups seem more prone to problems.

[@pigeonpoo1823]

Cheers for that. Hambini doesn't entirely hate giant either, which is nice.

[@zzzzz1102]

At that price you can afford to put a Hambini BB in it and make it as stiff as its big brother!

[@bluemystic7501]

Hambini isn't to be taken seriously. His shtick is to trash everything while promoting his own stuff. Meanwhile, he doesn't race nor does he even ride competitively.

[@Kansloos]

@@bluemystic7501 So you have to race or ride competively, otherwise you can't point out lack of QC and poor engineering? Ok.

[@bluemystic7501]

@@Kansloos Dude, it's all part of his sale pitch. Let me ask you this: would you take workout advice from a fat dude in your gym? Then why would you take 'cycling performance' advice from a commuter?

[@Kansloos]

@@bluemystic7501 What kind of comparison is that? People like Hambini or Peak torque or others for that matter can measure a roadbike, wheels or every other component that is on a bike, even if they never (will) ride a roadbike. And to answer your comparison. I had 'fat' cardiologist at the hospital who gave me some advice. And yes i followed up on that. That doesn't change anything about somebody's overall knowlegde.

[@thisandthatandotherthings]

Fair call on the exposed cables - for me, I expect fully integrated cabling when the spec is hydraulic brakes and electronic shifting i.e. off-putting not to have integrated cabling on the next model up, the Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 Disc

[@CBOBears]

At least you get a power meter which no other spec at this price has

[@87togabito]

You can always just buy a power meter later. You can’t buy an upgrade to make your frame have integrated cabling.

[@remusmoise8836]

@@87togabito Indeed you´re right! I´m crazy about this bike bur paying almost 4000 euros and seeing those cables......I don´t understand why they´ve made it

[@maxd3g]

i just bought this bike, should get it in about 1 month. Cant wait

[@davidarthur]

Awesome

[@maxd3g]

@@davidarthur been riding it for a month now, absolutely love it! only thing I felt the need to switch was the handlebar. 42 is just way to much for me coming from 38. The cable routing doesnt even bother me tbh, in a couple years I will however custom paint it as the paint job is pretty boring. Other than that Its the perfect package for me.

[@tecprivate2610]

Got my 2021 TCR last month and I´m in love with it

[@waynedoherty7758]

Great review, still looking forward to the comparison with the Trek Emonda 2021 :-) I am warming up to the external cables as I do more and more of my own bike maintenance

[@1nickybe]

If you check out CyclingTips, they've reviewed the Emonda, Ultimate, and TCR (so far in their group test). Must admit the TCR did not fare well in their testing, with, longer reach, limited tyre choice, flex in the frame, sluggishness. and a speed wobble being encountered by both testers. However, and I think it is a big however particularly for this bike, they changed the wheel set to accommodate their test GP5000 tyres. And one of the reasons I bought this bike, was the wheels are an integral part of the package, and given their performance I will never have to shell out money to upgrade.

[@wcseong]

Superb review, detail to honest facts & comparison. Good job! David.

[@insu1569]

Great review. Shame on trek for not sending an Emonda, the review was as good as it gets. Keep it up mate

[@maxlloyd3740]

Great review as usual Dave. How do you get on with the Pirelli's? Giant have a recommendation list of tyres to be used on these rims and the Pirelli and the others you mentioned are not on that list? Think it mainly consists of Giant tyres (!) but they have included Schwalbe Pro 1 and few select Maxxis models.

[@DavidParkinson]

Just pulled the trigger on this due to this review after a heads/tails on the equivalent Defy. In the end the mentioned comfort even on a TCR got the nod and arrives in the next few days. Money well spent for Giant loaning you this methinks.

[@andrewgiannini6094]

A few days?? I was told months for mine

[@DavidParkinson]

@@andrewgiannini6094 depends on size you’re after. If you go to the Giant site they have some sizes in stock with retailers. Some of those pickup only but some post for free. I ordered mine (ML) at 11am and arrived at 10am next day.

[@andrewgiannini6094]

Sounds like you lucked out! I ordered from a local Giant store in January and was told mid-summer for it to come in. ML aswell. How are you liking it so far?

[@DavidParkinson]

@@andrewgiannini6094 well, I guess your banking on the stock your local shop has ordered. Other shops do have and for ML size a few scattered across the UK - just have to do a search by location and find any of them that are shipping. Was a doddle to put together. I just checked and 3 MLs in the UK. L, you’re out of luck. Had two rides. First was a fettle ride, so hard to tell. Did 30 miles today and loved every second. The power meter stats are great on my up front Garmin and the wheels sublime. I had thought cockpit a bit small but today was perfect. I’m 5,11. Frame stiff and shows, but not hard as bones stiff. Still comfy. My main worry was the compact gear setup. I have a local 20% and was worried the 36/30 would be a struggle. Did today and in reality it was no issues at all. All in a medium rather than a short rear cage with a 32 rear cassette would give more options on hills and still be as fast with the 52/11. But. Minor point. Can swap that out if I fancy. Coming from a Alu bike I loved this is a quality purchase with zero regrets.

[@CycoWarriorx]

IMO, what really sets this Giant apart is integrating a dual sided power meter at this price point. I’d imagine that’s going to cause other manufacturers to meet them there. Thoughts? Awesome review David 🍻 Btw, Trek focused on bigger channels... LOL... you’d think they’d be more concerned with getting a fair and accurate review... 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Irfankach]

+ GIANTS App RIDELINK is terrible and it serves no real function

[@iansmith6915]

Looks almost identical to my Cervelo R3 with my upgraded carbon wheels ( no power meter) same kind of money but now have winter wheels also. Would love to see comparison. Great review 👍🏿

[@projectblackhat694]

Thank you David! Your review heps me come to a decision of going with Giant TCR. 🚴‍♂️

[@standardh_]

Back in August was hinting for a new bike. Loved the price and spec of the 2020 TCR Advanced Pro 0 but hated the blue. Fortunately the shop had a Team CCC frame from 2019 in my size and did an entire swap for no charge. Unbelievable value with Giant and this is coming from a Cannondale SuperSix which was a good value as well. Great review, man.

[@lucacimolino735]

Hi David, what do you think of Scott Addict rc30? I’d like to see your review. Thank you for what you do and how you do it

[@BurgerTime7441]

I have one like this. They're great bikes. If you find a deal they are great for the money. (I bought a model that's a couple years old, though still the latest version, with 105, OD2, and carbon wheels, or $2,800). The wheels are well-made but one complaint I have is that they are narrower than I want. I'd prefer them to be width optimized for 28 or 30mm tires. It's getting difficult these days to find a bike with a reasonable front end (standard stem and bars, external cables at the bar/stem) and I really appreciate that.

[@steveindorset]

I think the fact that you’ve bought the frame for yourself after testing it for so long speaks absolute volumes! Though that bike is now £4199 on the giant site. 😳 Great review though. 👍🏻

[@zimboy777]

thx David your reviews of the new TCR have really helped me - I was considering this and the Canyon Aeroad cf SL 8 that you also reviewed - both reasonably available as we start coming out of the supply chain crisis. I have gone with/ordered the 2022 TCR adv pro 0 di2 which seems like best value/new tech. Aeroad very good looking and fast but I think the TCR is a better all rounder and can cope with light gravel. Good to get the latest Ultegra electronic 12 speed and standard tubeless setup. For those looking Giant USa website seems to get new stock in periodically - just keep looking. Canyon USa seem to be getting stock now as well.

[@holdenc1006]

Amazing review. I hope your channels grows so you can get your hands on more bikes for such reviews&comparisons.

[@jgogl9791]

Thanks for the review David. Please could you expand your thoughts on the hookless rims and available Giant-approved tyres?

[@mickfaragher7897]

Excellent value and thank you for the tyre testing and recommendations.

[@lucaristorto]

Last january I bought 2020 version TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc : impressive bike!

[@tts8907]

I like your reviews Dave. However, to suggest that this TCR is better than two other bikes before you get a chance to ride the other two is disappointing. The numbers (price, weight, geometry), as you know, don’t tell the whole story. That’s why ride impressions matter and that’s why I like your channel. I’ll be looking forward to your reviews of the Tarmac SL7 and the Emonda SL6 Pro. Thank you!

[@davidarthur]

You’re right and I was clear that I’m not comparing ride performance but two aspects - weight and value - that I can without riding each bike. Obviously I’d love to do a proper three way shootout and hopefully I’ll be able to do that when my channel gets big enough that all bike brands take this channel seriously

[@guillem3222]

He clearly said better “value for money” on specs / weight. Which is a fact

[@tts8907]

@@davidarthur Fair enough. I must have missed that. Thank you for clarifying. I appreciate that.

[@seanforkner]

What is your view on the TCR 1+? It doesn't seem to have been effected by the recent price hikes and may now be the best value for money model in the mid range price bracket?

[@storegga]

Had mine since May 2020 as well. Couldn't agree more. The freehub sounds like an angry hornets nest. Building at the shop we noticed it was so packed with OEM grease it was super stiff. The design of the internals in the hubs is incredible at this price. The power meter has been excellent. Let's hope it's a sign of things to come . Power meteres sub £3k? Enter Covid 19. I do wonder if those after this bike will actually just wait for a 2022 release

[@fippist]

Excellent review! Keep them coming!

[@lassefk3171]

Love my TCR . Feels like a racing couch. I am 5 11 myself but went with the M . Might be a bit of a stretch but fits me well

[@mayalman]

I owned the last disc version of the TCR and it is an exceotional bike. I now own the specialized Sl7. Why didn’t I go with the new Giant? Because I love the aesthetic of internally routed cables at the head tube. The excuse with respect to practicality is nonsense, with the clamshell stems taking down the handlebar for travel is absolutely no problem. Adjusting the number of spacers is also no problem. Watch giant do complete internal routing in 2024.

[@josephlund9748]

Giant really do offer excellent value for money. My propel is hands down best bike I've ridden. I was never a fan until now. Tides change!

[@hady5180]

very good detail review love this channel...Now I 'm very convinced with my own personal choice of RB....can't wait to get my new bike Giant TCR Adv Pro 1

[@leomarchio98]

Hi David, great review! Giant in its website says has a table with tyres compatible with the SLR1 wheels, and the Pirelli are not in there... Did you find any problems with those? Or do you run them below 5 bar?

[@LOUISP119]

I'm also curious as the only approved tire other than Giant or Cadex are the Schwalbe Pro One TLE.

[@mmpband]

The Giant Website says that 5 bar is the highest pressure for hookless rims. I think He runs them with a lower pressure for sure. But in the Giant test documentary for hookless rims the Pirellis are mentionend for failing their testing procedure. Hmmm....strange

[@leomarchio98]

@@mmpband yeah I agree that can be the only actually, unless he loves Pirelli so much he’s ready to risk it😂 that’s true, but it also says that under 5bar, if the manufacturer allows, you can use any tyre and Pirelli on their website states that 28s and above can be used with hookless if under 5bar (not 24s and 26s though)

[@jonathanmitchell5412]

Thanks for great review, I'm tempted to buy another giant, but had such a horrible experience in 2018 with a propel and tcr, Many issues and problems with both bikes sadly. Had to finally phone Taiwan to get a response and money refunded. I am also thinking the 2021 Emonda. Hope you can get an emonda to try as comparison. Again thank for great review and glad you enjoyed the tcr for a while.

[@martinjohanson6426]

Cant wait for your Tarmac SL7 review

[@davidarthur]

Coming soon!

[@JIMWSMITH]

Excellent review. You carnt really go wrong with a tcr or propel for that matter, they produce a lovely bike for the money , yes some models are alittle bland in some peoples eyes, but its all bang for buck.

[@ChardonnayWest]

this is very thorough! i'm a tarmac sl6 owner. i chose specialised over tcr cuz they organizes regular biking events in my city whereas Giant is just a bike store. i guess that is one of the places where Giant saved the money. if they fix this, i could almost say for certain that i'd go for Giant in the future.

[@shaynespencer7489]

Have you ever thought of doing reviews with 3 different bikes similar price and do comparability would be great to watch especially as I’m after a new bike next season and I’m struggling to make my mind up 😂

[@LegacyHazell]

What's the tire pressure that you ran on those Pirellis? Found this on their website though. P ZERO™ Race TLR SL 24-622 and P ZERO™ Race TLR SL 26-622 are NOT compatible with hookless rims.

[@kevinmitchell5012]

Dave, another great review, thank you. I bought a Pro 1 disc earlier in the year partly based on your positive endorsement. What tyres are you using on the test bike? Giant only recommends an extremely limited range (& mostly their own brand....). Great channel, keep up the good work!

[@kevinmitchell5012]

Question answered in the video if I’d watched all of it! 🙃

[@bubblingwater8481]

Mine is in shipping!! Coming soon home😁 (i bought the same bike)

[@evangossell1980]

Think mine comes in next month

[@andrewgiannini6094]

When did you order?

[@evangossell1980]

A month after it was released

[@andrewgiannini6094]

@@evangossell1980 thanks for the reply. I ordered mine early January. Hopefully I'll get it this year...

[@Michaelsmith21588]

I reckon the normal TCR Advanced 1+ without pro is less stiffer and a bit heavier. Is 8.4kg a realistic weight for size XL with the Giant carbon wheels?

[@grebrim]

Thanks David, your review and many others made me opt for this (yes, I managed to get one!) The fact it's quick does not surprise anybody, however I'm amazed with how comfy it is. I did a 110k ride that would have beaten me up quite a bit on my old Ridley, and on the TCR I didn't even feel it. Strange Giant does not mention this in their marketing. Maybe so that people still buy Defys? The other huge surprise is the mechanic Ultegra, it's crazy good. FYI, size S without bottle cages and pedals weighs 7,3 kg.

[@armandoariza8488]

Great video! Gorgeous bike. Look forward to the video re: price increase.

[@eduardomackinnon3368]

Cuánto cuestaá

[@joelam8788]

I was waiting for this episode for a long time.....

[@morkeomorkei3540]

Hello! I am in MTB for almost 2 years and I am converting to road bikes....What do you think about Giant Tcr Advanced 2016 model? - Is it good for beginners? - What is the perfect size for 1.78 cm Height? - Can I do packaging with the bike?

[@thatbikedad8252]

Really can’t make my mind up on what to buy here . Giant tcr , ribble slr, cannondale evosix .. Always find myself leaning towards this bike .

[@borrisjung8049]

Great review. I got my own a couple of weeks ago. I agree on most points but not on 2 topics. 1st Tubeless is shit, sorry to say. I put some Schwalbe Pro One on right away and it never sealed properly. One tire lost over 4h 2,5 bar and the other one 1,5bar. This matches with my other 2 Tubeless disasters I had. I put some Michelin Power Time Trial with Tubolitos on now. It was a struggle to fit the tyres and a bit scary, because even a clicher pops on the rim as a tubeless. I can't emagine to get a blow off with this setup, it works fine. My 25mm tyres inflated to approx. 28mm on this rim with 80psi. 2nd I rode only SRAM Force mechanical and electrical and RED etap the last years. I got the impression electrical is not a must on a road bike (TT is a other thing), so I opted for the mechnical Ultegra. As I got the bike I wanted to adjust the gears because of rubbing. I watched some videos (SickBiker explains it best) and I figured out this group set does have a "trim function" (SickBiker explains it in a separate video) you have to use it to have no rubbing. The shift performance is great, but this extra work is annoying somehow, it feels so unneccassary. I can only recommend to spend 1k more and get the Ultegra Di2, the bike is with it 200g lighter. Some more info, I changed only a couple of things and was able to keep the medium sized bike at 7,28kg with bottle cage, pedals and computer mount! I used the mentioned Michelin tyres with Tubolito S tubes, Dura Ace cassette 11-28, SQlabs Saddle, Supacaz carbon bottle cage, Supacaz bar tape and Look Keo carbon blade pedals. If someone is looking for a stiff, reactive, light and good handling bike for a nice price don't look any further.

[@Dee-Ell]

You shouldn’t fault the components for your own lack of experience. Ask your bike shop to fit the tubeless tyres and to index the gears for you. Also, the Di2 version is 200g lighter because it comes with tyres that are 200g lighter.

[@borrisjung8049]

@@Dee-Ell I spoke of 3 Tubeless setups I had, yet. 2 of 3 has been set up by good bike shops. I had always way too much pressure drops over a day. I doubt there is not an incorrect way of assemble a tyre, if there is an incorrect way this would be the next reason why you shouldn't buy tubeless! It is a good idea to learn to index gears. It is not rocket sience, after you understood how the system works, hence no reason for a Bike Shop to index gears or install tyres.

[@borrisjung8049]

@Angus Denvir as I said before, you can't do much wrong. The wheel preparation is crusial, and this has been done by a bike shop or in this case by giant. I know there are people out there who are lucky and got it sealed. Fun fact, I never got so fast punctures or cuts as well. 1st puncture after 20k riding, it sealed but the tyre couldn't hold higher pressures anymore and 2nd a small cut after 45k riding, who didn't seal at all. Bravo, you still need a tube or a repair kit to make sure you will be able to come home.

[@stefanospasaro7668]

Great Video Awesome explanation cheers 👌

[@mister_ray]

Great bike. I would step up to the UDi2 version which would clean up the cables.

[@Lucky-uk1bv]

1/2 the cables...

[@billblake4029]

Hello from Ohio Dave. Another fantastic review Sir.

[@chinaiwei]

Many thanks! Excellent review.

[@JonReid]

For a similar price, maybe even cheaper, the new Aeroad has the full aero benefits, the same group set and is a similar weight.

[@IMToasts]

You don't get a power meter on the Canyon. I think he's right when he says it has the best value for money.

[@JonReid]

@@IMToasts IMO, both bikes are great value, but I think the Canyon maybe represents more value as you’re effectively getting two bikes in one. I guess you could say the same about the TCR, but it’s not as aero optimised as Giants actual aero bike.

[@user-jv4fu9uc3e]

@@JonReid its funny how all these aero gains in bike, tires, computers etc , still doesn't change apersons physical attributes , a good rider on a non aero bike goes flying by someone on all latest greatest bike, most of its a marketing sales pitch , add up all those supposedly watt savings in bike tires shoes computers handle bars and light wallet you might gain what 20 seconds

[@JonReid]

@@user-jv4fu9uc3e I agree with you 100% regarding the aero position of the rider, however, in this case the rider will be the same person in the same position, therefore we can negate the effects of the rider/person and look at just the aero attributes of the bike. A German cycling magazine put all the aero bikes through a wind tunnel and found a 40 watt saving at 45km/h over a non aero bike. This drops to about 10 watts at 30km/h. Whilst this isn’t monumental, it will make a difference of a few minutes on a 40km long ride. Interestingly, the difference between the best performing aero bike and the worst was only 9 watts at 45, which basically means if you’re getting an aero bike, choose one that is light and comfortable. The most it will cost you is 9 watts

[@janrehak852]

Hello David, thanks for review, would you please advise me where to buy your merge?

[@tubesazzad]

Hi David, thanks for the review. I bought the Advanced pro 1 recently, and it's a great bike. I have a question for you. On the Giant's website, in the "Hookless tire test protocol" document it says not to use the "PIRELLI P ZERO RACE TLR". But I can see you are riding this trie without any issue. Does it mean that the "Hookless tire test protocol" document is not updated?

[@davidcole6893]

Great review David. I have Hunt 50 s on my Giant TCR and the hub noise is a continual amusement to fellow club riders. !

[@nickpousson6297]

Great review. Will you be doing one on the 2022 .

[@davidarthur]

If they send me one I will

[@richardcooper6493]

Looks like this has now gone up to £4200! Does this still represent value for money versus competition?

[@jannikp.7410]

Can you post your inseam lenght and arm length which fit for you the size ML on the Giant TCR, please?

[@iainhuddart8496]

What is your inseam David? Good review BTW 👍

[@syedabedin1736]

Hi David, congrats on channel, I’m recently got into cycling. I am in between TCR Advanced Pro 1 (with ultegra disc) or Propel Advanced Pro 1 Disc (with SRAM Rival), can you give me some advice on which will be better overall bike?

[@davidarthur]

Thanks! If you want max speed for racing, get the Propel, but if weight and climbing and comfort are important to you, choose the TCR. Hope that helps

[@onmydeskihaveacup]

Pack the free hub with grease, it will make it quieter. Check recommendations, they actually recommend it.

[@robdavenport3188]

Edgar Aetheling I agree, otherwise outer free hub bearing will need replacement very quickly.

[@onmydeskihaveacup]

@@robdavenport3188 Interesting, that is what has happened to that bearing in mine before I greased. Although I did not realise it was related.

[@LegacyHazell]

@@onmydeskihaveacup Are they using the same ratchet as DT swiss? What grease did you packed in?

[@cypriano8763]

love the gang for the buck of the tcr but if money was no object the aethos would for sure be my dream bike.

[@jameshoward9700]

Giant are killing it at the moment. The TCR is superb. My last gen SL is a way better bike than my SL6 S-Works Tarmac. Better quality, better ride (stiffness, weight, compliance and noise), though I think the Spesh handles quicker. I've ridden the comparable Emonda and it was an absolute slug. Not a race bike at all. Genuinely, I think Giant now have the Americans beaten in every category from gravel, via endurance, sport to pro race. Hard to think of any bike now that is better than the TCR/SL... Propel still needs a bit of work though. BTW, nothing wrong with a Giant press-fit bb. They are absolutely fine. Not sure I'd pair them with bigger SRAM axles though.

[@hippoace]

yet the TCR does not get the recognition as you suggested....marketing? bias for the American/European brands? I have a TCR but it is my first road bike so I cant compare to others.

[@neilvaughan9966]

Thanks for the review David. With the finish of this bike being a fade into matte black can you recommend a framer protector/finisher that will maintain the Matt finish. Thank you

[@rhaz]

Hello David, superb coverage on this bike and one of the best bike channels on YT out there for me to get an honest and in-depth review before I commit and bought this particular bike. Like you said in the video, the Gavia tires themselves are great, but I do wonder if you ever have any problem whatsoever about using tires that are not in Giant SLR's hookless wheelset compability list? Because I read their website and I do know Pirelli Zero TLR and Zero TLR SL are NOT listed. I asked because I'm looking to changing my tires as well. Thanks for reading and replying to this comment

[@dryolddesert]

How did u managed to fit Pzero tyres on it? Is it safe?

[@srdjanbarac7938]

Did you messure bike weight after tyre upgrade? I bought tcr adv pro team disc which is same bike like pro 1 on your test and I find that weight of factory tyres (Course 1) is nearly 400g

[@winds10]

Great review. Thank you. Why all the hate for pf bb? For carbon bike frames aren't they superior to threaded?

[@davidarthur]

Some people have had bad experiences with them creaking, which is largely down to a combination of manufacturing tolerances and bad installation. On paper it is superior with regards to carbon frames but the execution isn't always at the level it needs to be

[@GS-pk9rd]

Spot on what you said RE Giant press fit bb86, has been flawless in my experience on one tcr and one Liv I've installed. So not a negative in this case.. other brands moved to threaded maybe because they struggled to make two round holes! 🤣

[@Chanalvin78]

You rock. I got the bike after watching.

[@terrykeller5495]

I understood that there were limited brands of tyres that are compatible with hookless?

[@DiegoMejiaGaleano]

Thank you for this video! Brilliant!