Pitch is the same thing as rhythm

This short is an excerpt from my "Music Theory Iceberg" video, which you can watch in full here: • The Music Theory Icebe...
Short edited by Rob Goorney

[@ScottMcMaster-er4xj]

The beating of insect wings sounding like a buzz or hum.

[@adamel-sawaf4045]

That's beautiful

[@Wolfheart-1220]

Thank you for pointing this out, it's simple but a connection I didn't think of right away. So cool lol

[@EdKolis]

So can a machine gun, or an engine.

[@stev_.]

@@EdKolis i think miniguns are closer in rate of fire than a machine gun but i may be wrong

[@charleshartlen3914]

"the beating of insect wings sounding like a [note]". isnt that the point? that the vibrations of the wings could actually be interpreted as a low freq note

[@bruh666]

You left out the coolest point, which is that for a very large part, harmonies that sound good to us when slowed down translate into rhythms that sound good to us.

[@monomono]

that would be fucking interesting to see.

[@mobz]

Yes, absolutely!

[@leif1075]

How do you know that's true..and isnt this not technically always true right since you can change the rhythm of something and not change the pitch necessarily right or vice versa, so why does he say that?

[@FreymanArt2024]

How can we hear this? I want to slow Fm7 or C7#9 down to 120 BPM.

[@FreymanArt2024]

@@leif1075 As demonstrated in this video, any note if slowed down enough will sound like a steady beat. So if a chord of notes is slowed down a lot, it will sound like multiple beats going at the same time. The way those beats interact with each other depends on what chord is slowed down.

[@tjthr]

This is the first time the perfect loop doesnt get ruined with a weird audio glitch and the end

[@FifyKaqiqiPain]

Exactly

[@JB-fh1bb]

Yt has some work to do so we can have perfect seamless loops

[@solemn-2]

"And that's how"

[@vdun]

I think it’s because of the sentence that is said. There’s a natural pause, which lets the video start over without you noticing

[@gilbertdumotiermarquisdela8176]

Sounds like my neighbor at 6 AM every Sunday

[@vinuzula]

WHOAAAAAAAAA BUDDY

[@pruost]

But you perceive him as a rhythm or as a pitch? ¿ 🤨

[@kellyherrin]

​@@pruost I don't know why, but I find this unreasonably funny 😆

[@petercrenfield]

me no get

[@gilbertdumotiermarquisdela8176]

@@petercrenfield lawnmow👍

[@parmiggianoreggie-ano1832]

I expected the THX sound effect at one point

[@davidparsons97]

I personally thought it would turn into a Geiger counter.

[@rodnee2340]

Serum has a preset of this!

[@LawrGmD]

Tru

[@Happyradio1234]

same😂

[@EliV888]

Right???

[@MarkOfKhorne]

So drummers can play notes. They're just not trying hard enough. 🥁

[@leonardticsay8046]

*beats drummer with a keyboard* “You’ve been lying to me!!!”

[@Newgodlove]

1 million bpm

[@twildabuckingham]

💀

[@joermnyc]

Spinal Tap drummers have tried. 🔥

[@JoriDiculous]

Of course they can play notes. that's why they have many drums tuned to different ... notes.

[@cubercooper5221]

Rhythm = pitch ❌ Frequency = pitch ✅

[@TheHmm43]

Thank you

[@Dave_Albright]

thank you. this is correct. Don't trust shorts or TikTok videos

[@mescaliiiiine]

Now hoping that everybody finds this comment...

[@shiinondogewalker2809]

Thanks

[@cettiereow]

yes

[@b.0.z.nightcore519]

My favorite real life example of this is car engines. Those pulses sound so good when sped up

[@tubeo94]

This is the fundamental of electronic music or specifically how they make electronic instruments. Use one cycle of a wave: sine, square, triangle, saw, or complex and then oscillate it to make a note.

[@tocide]

Music

[@sebas4951]

True

[@urnoob5528]

bruh wdym one cycle one cycle of wave oscillate = wave cant u just say wave ffs

[@tubeo94]

@@urnoob5528 youre partly right. It’s just a language, you understand me i understand you. But technically, a cycle can contain many waves or waveforms. I can have a sine wave next to a square wave in a cycle, that’s not 2 cycles, those are 2 waves in one cycle.

[@MoritsukiRei]

I was gonna say, the ending sounds like it's building up to be a fat drop

[@PhaZeUnleashed]

Gradually increase tempo. Swedish house mafia “one” instantly assaults my brain.

[@feathers457]

That was my immediate thought. Half expected it to play.

[@ShadowWulfGaming]

Glad im not the only one

[@szymek9994]

I like this song

[@Dhruv1223]

Yasssss, it was driving me insane thinking which song had this exact thing as the opening. One.

[@michaelbelike4834]

Axwell's song Barricade does the same thing but backwards.

[@FifyKaqiqiPain]

If you were wearing earphones it sounds like your heart is beating super loudly as if it's gonna die

[@fuku1668]

This is just like that time i learned fractions and division were the same.

[@RyanK-100]

Actually, fractions and division ARE the same thing. Pitch and Rhythm are not the same. This video is lying to you. Even though the demos are correct.

[@ethangraff8036]

This loop is hella smooth

[@ShonaDynasty]

On hood

[@_shadownotes_]

Not really. Everybody does the stupid "because...." at the end of all of these videos. You could literally do it for anything.

[@nikolaydonin2558]

@@_shadownotes_ it's about the transition delay. It was so short as to nonexistent.

[@MyUncleWorksForNintendo]

​@@_shadownotes_ You're right. So many KZbinrs do this to the point that it feels "played out" and I've gotten a bit sick of it tbh, BUT this one was SO well done, it really feels seamless natural. Honestly the best loop I've heard. If everyone did it this well, i migut not be as tired of it lol

[@_shadownotes_]

@MyUncleWorksForNintendo haha I wouldn't say it was the BEST loop I've ever heard. Personally loops will always annoy me anyway, because for some reason I always hate letting any youtube video reach the end. I guess I feel like it's wasting my time or something.

[@Slaytounge]

That kick drum pulse ramping up was one of the most uncomfortable sensations I've felt in a long while.

[@wabbit_07]

I thought it was quite enjoyable actually

[@eggsandbacon1573]

@@wabbit_07 you masochist

[@EdKolis]

Auditory tryptophobia?

[@JScaranoMusic]

​@@EdKolis misophonia probably.

[@IsaacHND]

@@wabbit_07 idk why everyone else disagrees. I kinda felt satisfied after hearing it

[@ternarycode]

*gradually increases the tempo of the pulse * 🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍

[@leonardostil977]

Ya

[@AmosPressley]

It's like saying running and walking are the same thing.

[@RichardDuncan-ju1xk]

Kraftwerk writing out a copyright claim as we speak.

[@marcoszeros]

geiger counter 😎

[@LaplacianDalembertian]

ye and later used by Chemical Bros and Aphex Twin and others

[@flunkytown]

jojo brainrot is real

[@WimRijksen]

Right about now! The funk soul brother.

[@semisemicoloncolon]

check it out now! the funk soul brother.

[@SoneNando]

Good days playing fifa

[@christianramirez6718]

I studied music notation for 20 years. This is something that needs to be shown to everyone in the music industry. Gold information🥇🏆

[@jasonpark5247]

Oh no not mumbo jumbo teaching real life redstone

[@nothingnessnessness]

When you increased the tempo of the beat you unintentionally recreated the beginning of death grips hot head

[@summerwoodsmusic]

I was just thinking it sounded like Hustle Bones!

[@jakacresnar5855]

Swedish House Mafia - One

[@ThePhobosAmphitheater]

Can we take a moment to appreciate how seamlessly the short repeats? Props in the editing department

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

Why is that good? It only makes you needlessly watch the same video again becasue you did not know it had ended. It's beneficial to creators, not to viewers

[@SatsJava]

Yes

[@WoockerSocket2]

It's literally just a cut lmao

[@yugdails]

Like 90% of tiktoks do this now

[@KevinTPLim]

It is really seamless and quite clever!

[@RobGMyMX5]

That seemless loop is quality. If I speed this video up enough I'll stop perceiving it as a video and start hearing it as a sound

[@TheFellerHasAChannelGodDamnIt]

Glad scientists found a way to use kick drums as a particle accelerator

[@kappajump1]

*important note: the threshold between what we perceive something to be pulses vs a continuous tone is what defines Low Frequency Oscillations (LFOs), and HIGH Frequency Oscillations (HFOs)

[@Rudxain]

Correct. It's somewhere around 20Hz for humans. Although I was able to perceive 15Hz tones

[@violetindigo8514]

Thanks for making me now know where the name of the band LFO came from 😊

[@farpurple]

@@Rudxain guess depends on shape? sin is possible to hear lower, square is square.. even 50HZ square can be kinda pulses (electricity is like crispy yea?)

[@Rudxain]

@@farpurple Definitely! pulse-like waves are hard to hear as tones, such as a sawtooth

[@AshishYadav-qc7hr]

Pitch is what you play, Rhythm is when you play it

[@oWildChildo]

Sprinting is the same as walking, you're essentially just putting one foot in front of the other at different speeds.

[@Ticket2theMoon]

I was already really digging this and then the perfect loop just put the cherry on top

[@michielvincent3988]

The audio will form a nice clean note if you loop the video at a high enough speed.

[@360Pros]

This sounds like a semantics debate.

[@dovos8572]

the rhythm doesn't need to be a frequency but pitch is a frequency. they are similar but not the same thing. the rhythm is not how frequently we say one word after another to build sentences. part of the rythm is how we accentuate the words and pitch. a piano song can follow a rythm to empathize certain notes. doing that is what brings most of the feeling and elegance into the song. rythm is way more complex than just the "slow" apparent frequency it is following.

[@AJtheBillionaire]

The Flash playing the drums with super speed would sound like a synth.

[@EdKolis]

Why did I imagine Lash from Advance Wars? 😂 Must be her catchy techno theme...

[@jerryjb]

Adam Neely has a great talk about this. I think it's called new horizons or something. He talks about how intervals are polyrhythms and it adds a lot of depth to this idea

[@imparkub]

I think it's on the Ableton KZbin channel

[@drydryb0nesshorts]

Jacob Collier also did a video on this where he did a polyrhythm on his hand and created a B major chord by speeding it up, pretty cool

[@yea4253]

​@@drydryb0nesshortsHate that guy so much

[@joshuahoman1184]

He's fantastic in very small doses. But after 5ish minutes, definitely starts coming across like a horse's ass. ​@@yea4253

[@T-G7]

I've been sitting here for 7 hours waiting for the end, I think this might be the longest short ever!

[@dropdmike75]

felt like i was the earth's atmosphere with the amount of force i felt during the speed-up

[@TheKeksletsplay]

Bro just heard swedish house Mafia and thought... "wait a minute..."

[@cettiereow]

THX Intro

[@Zydra_Zy]

the artist "Kobaryo" (known mainly in rhythm game communities) has used this to their advantage in the sonf "singularity at 2.64+e6BPM" to make most of the melody entirely out of percussion

[@scoreunder]

i know it from Kobaryo's "USB 50,176.0"

[@CrossOver-ih9kx]

KOBARYO

[@haruthegremlin]

kobaryo mention! :0

[@Zydra_Zy]

@@haruthegremlin as a dragon (girl) it is my duty to mention every niche interest I have to anyone I know but also this was 8 months ago to a point where some 5 months ago I started making music and did this myself before too LOL

[@magentamonster]

F11 -27.37257227033183 cents? Who uses the 11th octave?

[@adderallfannumberonefanofa3074]

I mean... If you want to be deceptive, yes, that's one way to put it.

[@Ludifant]

What I find mind blowing is that this blows some people´s mind.. Once you know and experience things, it is very hard to imagine not knowing.

[@ShwappaJ]

Yup. I do believe this is the "Curse of Knowledge" effect.

[@snared_]

yeah like do people really not know about the property of the fourier transform that it is a bijection? For real

[@marie-helenecarron8941]

@@snared_ Well, many people don't even know what a Fourier transform is, I guess the spectrum of their knowledge is too narrow because science is unfortunately not well-spread.

[@scuffedcovers]

So the high pitch buzz that comes from old televisions is just a really fast pulse

[@Jarran2R]

yeah, it comes from the flyback transformer inside the tv modulating the electromagnets to bend the electron beam from left to right across the scanlines in a sawtooth-like pattern, moving from left to right and then nearly instantaneously going back to the left, 525 lines per frame in ntsc, 29.97 frames per second and 525*29.97=15734 which is the frequency of the high pitched noise you hear

[@AlineDreams]

​@@Jarran2RAnd not all people can hear this noise, even; or at least not to the point it can hurt their ears, like it did to me when I was a kid. Ouch.

[@ccnomad]

@@Jarran2R So when you see wavy lines pulsing across an image on the screen, is that a visual representation of this failing somewhat? Or that something unrelated

[@TheSchultinator]

​@@ccnomad My understanding is that when you see waves and such on a screen, it's because the camera capturing the image is recording at close to, but not precisely on, the same frequency as the screen refresh. At least for old systems.

[@vari1335]

Ok this was actually an eye (or ear?) opener

[@bambampewpew32]

For real wtf

[@bambampewpew32]

Yeah fr wtf

[@TheSchultinator]

Bro literally just figured out that waves are the same thing regardless of frequency, this has nothing to do with rhythms.

[@bambampewpew32]

@@TheSchultinator what

[@Neuroszima]

@@bambampewpew32 pitch = Frequency... not "rythm"

[@10tative]

My music theory teacher is gonna throw a fit when I show her this.

[@Ciprian-Amarandei]

Publisher: Your song needs a better melody Composer: but it has rhythm, it's the same

[@DJejbarros]

And if you increase the speed even more, you can start to see the light coming out , waving through all colors

[@tetradigit]

well, no

[@masoncamera273]

Electromagnetic radiation aka light is not the same thing as sound so no

[@dylanthompson192]

@@masoncamera273I bet you’re fun at parties

[@csabajtony]

@@dylanthompson192 So you're saying that spreading (intentionally or not) misinformation = being fun at parties?

[@dylanthompson192]

@@csabajtony you’re doing it again

[@grondl]

One time, I was on a speedcore gig where the final act increased the bpm so much that it became a note, going higher and higher and eventually reaching the ultrasonic.

[@AlineDreams]

I wonder how many ears bled and how many dogs barked in the process.

[@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849]

That's so freakin cool man

[@donut3702]

Love how the quarter note beat turned into a plane and took off at the end

[@spookybagles]

it felt like my brain just got tapped into as the pulse got faster at the end

[@chloverSP]

theres a genre that takes this idea and runs away with it, its called extratone and it sounds pretty nuts. my song recomendation for it would be Aekhloria - Timeless Heresy since its crazy enough with how it uses this concept but is still melodic

[@zkte]

aekhloria is god, also, Singularity at 2.64e+6 bpm by Kobaryo is also pretty good

[@sp4cef0rc37]

If I could swap the popularity of two songs, I'd swap Uranoid with any song from Aekhloria or the other artists on the channel. Uranoid is kind of the example for extratone and it just destroys the genre's popularity because Uranoid just isn't a good music. Even for extratone, it's always the same tone.

[@user-xk5fs1zu3m]

garbage song

[@sushi_tech35]

That sound tickles my brain

[@hillehai]

This was a really great way of demonstrating frequency. Thanks!

[@worgle123]

Just sounds like a motorbike, ngl.

[@c64cosmin]

Do one for chords as well, because those become polyrythms and when Jacob Collier introducted that I was just mindblow. Keep up the great work!

[@nolimitsuk]

When I started out learning to tune a piano, I would put the palm of my hand against the top of the piano to feel the pulse between two bass notes.

[@GuyNarnarian]

Does that mean that pitch = rhythm though? I would say it has an effect. A quick pitch shift can change the rhythm. Just because you can slow a note down to a pulse doesn't really mean anything musically.

[@belleofbrightside97]

Same, I did that for a little while as a side job, and sometimes it was easier to feel the beats rather than hear them.

[@heyitshhousefly]

& suddenly the phrase “tuning the drum” made that much more sense. This is awesome. Sound is awesome.

[@KitKitsuneVixen]

when sped up enough, everything eventually just leads back to the THX intro. the scientists are still looking into this

[@stevenseguin3523]

The intro to One by SHM brought me to this realization

[@ronstero]

was looking for this comment

[@siddheshthorat9898]

Smile across my face widened gradually as the tempo of the pulse gradually increased, for the first two times of listening to it at least. ☺

[@reecenaidu6020]

So on top of a rhythm, we playing tons of other rhythms and still vibing

[@McBehrer]

because rhythm and pitch are the same thing, yo I'm the... pitch... man

[@EdKolis]

Batter up!

[@Kids_Scissors]

Pitch is the result of the fact that our hearing doesn't have perfect lossless resolution

[@LiberatedMind1]

No pitch is our ability to perceive different frequencies.

[@seecreetHxS]

@@LiberatedMind1 Yeah that's the definition, but if I'm understanding 'perfect lossless resolution' correctly then we'd be able to discern each beat that makes up what we normally discern as a pitch, fundamentally changing how we perceive sound

[@tysonchickennuggets]

⁠@@seecreetHxSit’s more that it’s to fast. If we were able to do what u explained we would have invented a way to slow time down.

[@TitusSc]

This is literally Swedish House Mafia - One

[@Femboy7662]

I Just Imagined A Ball Bouncing

[@Prod.LetHimCook]

THE PERFECT LOOP I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT LOOPED

[@spartanguitarist6579]

This blew my mind. It's like when you throw two magnets at each other and they make that rattle sound

[@sjsuismylife]

Technically, yes, but only in the fact that they are frequencies. When you're specifying what is commonly understand "rhythm", it more complex than mere frequency.

[@ythotha]

Yes. A rhythm is a timing. Pitch is more about how frequent sound vibrations are.

[@timbelcijan9858]

Exactly. Which is why I deem this as misinfo, not only because it is but also because of the massive text saying "pitch=rhythm" and the title saying it is the same thing.

[@GuyNarnarian]

@@timbelcijan9858 I think its misinformation

[@ythotha]

@@timbelcijan9858 it's concerning how many people just agrees with the authors statements. Misleading at least, genuine misinformation at the worst

[@tubeo94]

@@sjsuismylife it’s the same shit what youre all talking about. In fact this is the most used information every day i step into the studio.

[@itsbran2660]

Swedish house mafia has entered the chat

[@darklazerx7913]

Its such an awesome intro

[@Hoodperd]

Finally, I learned something at 12:15 AM on a school night.

[@LarryPanozzo]

I’ve listened to this 77 times in a row and it’s phenomenal

[@Zanophane_Gaming]

that loop is beautiful.

[@yugdails]

When a sound is still a sound

[@theretrosaba7801]

bro went from a drum to an air raid siren.

[@SniqrsFFA]

the sound of that kick drum speeding up would kill a pilgrim

[@prodbydramatic]

of course he has a perfect loop I wouldn't expect less

[@sheers5337]

This is actually really awesome. Thanks david

[@TheBetterBleedingBladesYouTube]

That noise made my brain happy

[@NecroGarfunk]

it's almost like the entire material universe can be described this way

[@petier184]

that kick drum is also a note that you can slow down to eventually hear a pulse lets slow things down to infinity 😈😈

[@EdKolis]

Black hole used TIME DILATION! It's super effective!

[@Nathanator]

Swedish house mafia effect!

[@sjeggy6]

Tuning my drums has made this concept very natural to me

[@TwinShards]

This was a smooth video loop ngl

[@peepeepoopoovdbhxvbcc6683]

The ramp up with headphones was the nicest sound I’ve heard all day

[@prawn2215]

That was *actually* the smoothest loop ever

[@joermnyc]

This is the physics equivalent of electrons being BOTH particles and a wave.

[@modestoney1577]

nope, it`s not. more the equivalent of light being the same as thermal radiation (it`s not the same, just constisting of the same "ingredient" perceived differently depending on frequency)

[@lllULTIMATEMASTERlll]

It’s not. It’s closer to (but not completely analogous) energy mass equivalence since you can create energy out of mass you just need to convert it. You can convert rhythm into pitch you just need to speed it up.

[@angrytedtalks]

Did you mean photons?

[@marie-helenecarron8941]

I think you may be wrong. Where is the particule here? This phenomenon is purely wave-like. The only particles involved are the air that vibrates as the sound propagates.

[@marie-helenecarron8941]

@@angrytedtalks electrons can be considered as waves in quantum mechanics. Maybe you already know it but let me explain if someone else wants an explanation. Usually the electron is referred as an electronic wavepacket and then we calculate the probability of this electron to go into one state using a wave function.

[@Rubbinghandsschemingsomething]

I began perceiving it as a ducati monster sound

[@shadowsoulless6227]

At the end legitimately just sounded like a basketball being bounced

[@kalebsatterfield2443]

I'm pretty sure this was sampled from swedish house mafia - one.

[@killstarpopper]

sounds like the intro to Swedish House Mafia - One (Your Name)

[@wailinburnin]

This is heavier than just the curiosity of this short video

[@Veevaldimoney]

"Let's see if this bridge has a rhythm, too" -N. Tesla

[@joshc5613]

that ramp up made my brain itch

[@OurgasmComrade]

The sounds of music really just all depend on the envelops and how the transients are modulated with other frequencies!

[@RishabhIndora]

It's been 2 days, and I am still watching this reel.💀

[@sanscervelle]

i started fearing getting rickrolled by the end

[@vicadegboye684]

I'm a PhD engineering student who researches stuff with sound (vibrations/acoustics). This was such a pleasure to watch!

[@nattyb9489]

That sound effect reminded me of the beginning of Rudebox by Robbie Williams 😅👏👍

[@yohualtica]

I thought it was Lovelight, from the same album

[@fase144]

arriving to the correct conclusion by means of wrong analysis. There's a term for that

[@freedbear19891]

two things 1: that drummers leg must hurt 2: airplane start up

[@whatshendrix]

What you're describing here is called "frequency". You're basically saying "frequency is frequency". Mind blowing

[@lack4aname]

Which song played in your head? Swedish house mafia- one. Or five hours by deorro?

[@SnowyBlizzard]

Was expecting to be Rick rolled😂

[@StarCourtesan]

This is how you recreate car engine sounds in FL studio. It all makes sense now