8 Led Zeppelin Songs That 'Rip Off' Other Songs

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David Bennett Piano

David Bennett Piano

Күн бұрын

Led Zeppelin are infamous for the amount of lyrics, melodies and riffs that they "borrowed" from the blues and rock artists who came before them. Of course, it is fine to be inspired and influenced by great artists and songs but, if you're going to take somebody else's work and use it as the foundation of your new song, at least consider paying them some royalties or credit!
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0:00 Introduction
0:57 Whole Lotta Love VS. You Need Love
2:25 Bring It On Home VS. Bring It On Home
3:40 The Lemon Song VS. Killing Floor
4:36 Dazed & Confused VS. Dazed & Confused
6:25 Babe I'm Gonna Leave You VS. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
7:33 Black Mountain Side VS. Blackwaterside
8:17 Rock and Roll VS. Keep A-Knocking
9:21 Stairway to Heaven VS. Taurus

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@CHURINDOK
@CHURINDOK 2 жыл бұрын
LZ didn't "rip off" other songs; they just Pagerized them.
@surfk9836
@surfk9836 2 жыл бұрын
The guy didn't kill him, he just took his life.
@idkyou8188
@idkyou8188 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t rape her he just gave her a surprised one night stand
@5ped0fs0und5
@5ped0fs0und5 2 жыл бұрын
@@surfk9836 I think you guys are missing the joke here, the guy says "Pagerized", playing on Jimmy Page's name, and how they stole music
@mattkaustickomments
@mattkaustickomments 2 жыл бұрын
I see and I like what you did there. Underrated comment. Bravo!
@Alexeiyeah
@Alexeiyeah 2 жыл бұрын
That was pretty good! Congrats!
@hifijohn
@hifijohn 2 жыл бұрын
One critic said that LZ was his favorite cover band.
@HenkJanBakker
@HenkJanBakker 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. But elevating a song to a new level should not be named a cover. But hey, who is going to be the judge of better? But indeed the original writer/performer needs to be credited and payed regardless.
@smellybonk
@smellybonk 2 жыл бұрын
My uncle says that all the time and I’ve never known why lol
@edwardcoit9748
@edwardcoit9748 2 жыл бұрын
Their original songs are enough to make them the greatest rock band.
@fchampd4512
@fchampd4512 2 жыл бұрын
They did it fucking excellent, every one is epic. All LZ originals are amazing and there are alot of them. Best live band by far. Bonzo is by far the best drummer too
@AbbeyRoadkill1
@AbbeyRoadkill1 2 жыл бұрын
They probably are the greatest cover band of all time. But they're also a great originals band (Houses of the Holy might be their best album and it seems to be completely original) which means they're legends for a good reason.
@bobbibaker4685
@bobbibaker4685 Жыл бұрын
The sad thing is Zep never needed to plagiarize their songs. They could have given credit where credit was due, and their cover versions would still have been amazing!
@coldacre
@coldacre Жыл бұрын
they didnt plagiarise. they followed the blues tradition of paying homage to what had happened in the past, with passing references. "Bring it on home".... of course the 20 seconds of intro / outro is the older song.... the MAIN song though.... pure Page / Plant. this is the thing... blues artists up til then did this all the time. made reference to others lyrics & licks... but none of them made any money. Zeppelin made astronomical amounts of money in the 70's (around 1973 onwards... ironically enough, when they dropped the blues interpretations) .... so the lawsuits came about 10 years later (in the 80's when lawyers took over the world) and here we are. the ONLY time Zeppelin actually ripped off a song and deserved to get sued was the Jake Holmes song. THAT was wrong.
@UhuruSasa85
@UhuruSasa85 11 ай бұрын
Whatever helps you sleep at night 😂
@rickbailey-ty8bq
@rickbailey-ty8bq 7 ай бұрын
The reason was greed. By not crediting anyone they didn't have to pay out any money. If you was to play a riff or lick someone else wrote, that's one thing. When you take an entire song someone else wrote, and credit yourself as the writer, it's outright theft, and zeppelin did that.
@johnnyoranges
@johnnyoranges 7 ай бұрын
The point is that they've made a fortune out of stealing other peoples' work, and claiming it as their own. It's criminal.
@johnnyoranges
@johnnyoranges 7 ай бұрын
​@@rickbailey-ty8bqCorrect.
@phizzler5051
@phizzler5051 9 ай бұрын
willie dixon's legacy is the most underrated thing in music. period.
@gordonbgraham
@gordonbgraham 3 ай бұрын
Willie was also prone to ripping other artists off
@rodtaylor8096
@rodtaylor8096 2 ай бұрын
I completely agree we’ll said Sir
@zappa6366
@zappa6366 2 ай бұрын
@@gordonbgraham yep, very common in older blues
@hisfavworstnightmare
@hisfavworstnightmare 17 күн бұрын
tbh if there was no willi dixon there would be no zeppelin 🤷‍♀️
@gordonbgraham
@gordonbgraham 17 күн бұрын
@@hisfavworstnightmare because none of those musicians could play…lmfao
@RebSike
@RebSike 2 жыл бұрын
"All musicians are thieves, the good ones take it somewhere new and the great ones do it more than once." -- Muddy Waters.
@henrygriffen40
@henrygriffen40 2 жыл бұрын
Zeppelin made the blues a 1000 times better than what it was,so what if they ripped them off,its 2021,i think it's to late too bring it up now
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrygriffen40 They did't do the stealing in 2021. We know how YOU'D react if YOUR property was stolen: you'd whine all the way to court. We're talking about Black musicians who were routinely ripped off before "Led Zeppelin" even existed. How many times must they be ripped off before you'll consider the theft significant?
@Rubberbandfan1
@Rubberbandfan1 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrygriffen40 In what fucking universe? That’s a ridiculous opinion! The blues was born out of the African American experience, Zeppelin could never understand that, or recreate the feeling the blues expresses.
@a2ndopynyn
@a2ndopynyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@jnagarya519 Found the white hater. You're all over these comment threads. Get a new hobby.
@STW-News-Headlines
@STW-News-Headlines 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rubberbandfan1 But they did.. zeppelin took the blues and put heavy guitar and drums.. then Plants insane voice.. they totally reworked those songs into new one. No rip offs.. no copying.. completely reworked.. almost unrecognizable..
@StephanieMT
@StephanieMT 2 жыл бұрын
all they had to do was credit the artists and paid them royalties.
@pgrobban
@pgrobban 2 жыл бұрын
All you had to do was credit the artists and paid them royalties, CJ!
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs 2 жыл бұрын
The ones they did repay....were only from a certain date and not from the initial release of said song.Not back dated.
@JohnnyCameo
@JohnnyCameo 2 жыл бұрын
@@StratsRUs The out of court settlements “for an undisclosed amount” would have compensated the original writers for royalties that predate the settlement.
@gaspingfortruth
@gaspingfortruth 2 жыл бұрын
How were they to know how successful they would become? Why weren’t the original songs just as successful?
@mickeyrube6623
@mickeyrube6623 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaspingfortruth why does that matter? Just credit the original artist everytime you want to use someone else's song. How hard is that?
@telekidd8559
@telekidd8559 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that led zep is also one of the band that is the strictest about their copyrights and never accept reuse of their songs catalog for games like guitar hero or for commercials.
@marybell75
@marybell75 11 ай бұрын
And the Beastie Boys...
@Fleezil2860
@Fleezil2860 6 ай бұрын
Their song “ rock n roll”( been a long time) WAS used several years ago.in a car commercial. I think it was for Cadillac.
@mattk9089
@mattk9089 5 ай бұрын
Yes, they are very proprietorial about their copyright, but were shameless about stealing from others back in the day. A scumbag way to behave, and they didn't need to, they did actually also create original enough music too.
@christophejanvier7361
@christophejanvier7361 5 ай бұрын
​@@mattk9089they mixed beautifully the blues songs they reused. They are kinda like dj of their times in a way.
@michaelmarron8441
@michaelmarron8441 3 ай бұрын
@@mattk9089 I can understand bands not wanting their songs selling stuff on adverts
@youvasquez
@youvasquez 6 ай бұрын
I was amazed at the range of genre of songs that led zepplin made at that time. How could any band come up with such a diverse and rich songs? Well, they weren't the creative gods that I thought they were but they did improved on those songs.
@Number4lead
@Number4lead 5 ай бұрын
At least some of their later work had to be original.
@MichelPeindaries
@MichelPeindaries 5 ай бұрын
on parle des chansons qu ils ont copié, il faudrait plutôt transformé, leur seul tort c est de ne pas avoir crédité la plupart de ces chansons aux auteurs , pas très honnête de leur part, et si on parlait aussi de toutes les autres qu ils ont écrit et composé , toutes ces histoires que connaissent tous les inconditionnels de Led Zeppelin n enlevent en rien leur génie créatif
@jeffreyferenc3672
@jeffreyferenc3672 5 ай бұрын
They improved songs thanks to the technology they had at their disposal in the late '60s and early '70s. Days of scratchy vinyl records were long gone but the true spirit of original blues was captured by musicians who lived the blues. Have mercy and RIP.
@cookiestar2702
@cookiestar2702 5 ай бұрын
Interview Plant did explains his shock Americans were burying much blues artist due to racial issues. They brought it out proudly and never denied the copy/ influence.
@jeffreyferenc3672
@jeffreyferenc3672 5 ай бұрын
@@Number4lead A lot of their work was original and much of it was the best they ever did. Seems like the Brits in general got their stat in rock playing blues originally done by dirt poor blacks in U.S. You could say they improved it but they had better instruments and technology. Original blues guys had the spirit.
@MrNathan791
@MrNathan791 Жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with being inspired to the point of copying someone else song, but be a man about it and give them the proper credit and the royalties. Even if the copied version is better, it's still not their own. Great video by the way. Thanks for sharing.
@CP-kb1du
@CP-kb1du Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong getting caught ! wake up man ,,,,,,,,go update your Taylor Swift playlist
@pedrobasualdo6694
@pedrobasualdo6694 Жыл бұрын
@@CP-kb1du Hahahaha that was hilarious tbh
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Жыл бұрын
9:34 Reminds me of that scene in Amadeus, where Mozart fixes Salieri's song and makes it better. ROFL
@TMeyer-cc9cw
@TMeyer-cc9cw Жыл бұрын
@@CP-kb1du interesting attempt at english i particularly like the weird thirty commas you put in for no apparent reason
@Quethel
@Quethel Жыл бұрын
They actually did. Zep has a dozen or so songs that gave normal cover credits at the time of recording, including 3 of the 8 songs on Led Zeppelin 1. Have to remember that they were all in their early 20s for the recording of most of the "problem" tracks. We probably shouldn't have high expectations about their ability to navigate copyright.
@halflanding1900
@halflanding1900 2 жыл бұрын
Zeppelin’s music is great. Just disappointing that they didn’t credit the original writers until they were sued.
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't stand next to any member of that band -- probably would pick my pocket. That is the behavior of assholes.
@halflanding1900
@halflanding1900 2 жыл бұрын
Say what you will but I still love Zeppelin’s music. All blues and blues-rock were inspired by the delta bluesmen. Do I listen to records of the originals? No, really, with much respect, but I like Zeppelin’s rock sound. Even David acknowledges in the video the tunes are better versions musically. THEY JUST SHOULD HAVE CREDITED THE ORIGINAL WRITERS. It wouldn’t have taken away anything from their music if they did. And they’re definitely guilty for not doing so.
@nicholasprotz4297
@nicholasprotz4297 2 жыл бұрын
@@jnagarya519 They wouldn’t need to pick your pocket, they’ve got enough already.
@kingboobs20
@kingboobs20 2 жыл бұрын
@King Vegemite "Zeppelins music isn't that great when you realise it's not Zeppelins music.. That's the whole point of this video" You must not have watched this video because that wasn't the point at all.
@cjr1881
@cjr1881 2 жыл бұрын
@@halflanding1900 there are a lot of good cover bands out there.
@hanspeterraatz4928
@hanspeterraatz4928 7 ай бұрын
Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull once said, there are only so many riffs and notes (144), a guitar player can play, and if someone is using mine, it only shows my genius.
@alexbowman7582
@alexbowman7582 2 ай бұрын
Like Hotel California?
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 Ай бұрын
Obviously that ignores microtonal music
@joshuaescalante1791
@joshuaescalante1791 Жыл бұрын
You forgot “When the levie breaks”. I’ve heard the original played on a steel acoustic by a Mississippi blues artist.
@alanrowley750
@alanrowley750 20 күн бұрын
Yes. Memphis Minnie composed the music on guitar and her husband Kansas Joe wrote the lyrics. Awesome Recording.
@alexsmith-rs6zq
@alexsmith-rs6zq 2 жыл бұрын
“Hippity Hoppity your song is now my property” - 4 English Lads
@mark314158
@mark314158 2 жыл бұрын
"Pay up" : Music Company lawyers.
@PadawanIan
@PadawanIan 2 жыл бұрын
eh they made most the songs better and modern not saying it was right but aye who am i to say anything
@PadawanIan
@PadawanIan 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunkintree nahhhh
@TimothyLafreniere
@TimothyLafreniere 2 жыл бұрын
@@PadawanIan I disagree about that,
@PadawanIan
@PadawanIan 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimothyLafreniere that’s cool
@drytool
@drytool Жыл бұрын
I'm not sad that Led Zeppelin existed. That music needs to exist. Giving credit where it's due is also a necessity. One shouldn't need to be forced by a lawsuit to do that.
@theethnicist5678
@theethnicist5678 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLYEEE 💢 WELL SAID!!
@michelleplombe7019
@michelleplombe7019 Жыл бұрын
@@theethnicist5678 I've seen your comment elsewhere
@theethnicist5678
@theethnicist5678 Жыл бұрын
@Michelle Plombe Maybe?
@joshforest304
@joshforest304 Жыл бұрын
Especially when those bands can't afford to take on LZ lawyers. Shame!! Just give credit. Beatles used to insist on Black Idols coming on stage with them and plugging their music. Props to that. Jeff Buckley had so many influences and he spoke with such admiration. He gave writing credits on his covers constantly "Hallelujah" for Jeff. I'd say that his covers are less Pagerised than LZ "influences". It's interesting that LZ were big fans of Jeff Buckley too. They must just be like damn, wish we could cover songs like that!!
@jameslanclos568
@jameslanclos568 Жыл бұрын
Amen to that Brother.
@isaacrev9102
@isaacrev9102 5 ай бұрын
Blues music and riffs is very common to be Borrowed by many of famous artists and none them give credit not because they plagiarize but because blues music can be played by many people but artist will add their own stuff and make it theirs and improvise and have fun with it, that's what led Zeppelin did, so they are not the only ones
@ShortFuseFighting
@ShortFuseFighting Жыл бұрын
look, i been composing and performing music for 25+ years and almost everything ive ever created was "inspired" by something or someone else. either the vibe, the atmosphere the arrangement, the combination of instruments used, the energy. its unavoidable. cause no matter what kind of melody or chord progression you come up with will have the vibe of something else and you'll gravitate toward inserting it into that "feel" or style. cause if that werent the case you'd literally have to invent a whole new never before done genre everytime you compose a song. but what these guys did was pure plagiarism. biting a vibe or feel is one thing. stealing riffs and melodies is a whole nother ball game.
@UhuruSasa85
@UhuruSasa85 10 ай бұрын
Inspired and stealing entire verses are two different things.
@TonyEnglandUK
@TonyEnglandUK 8 ай бұрын
@@UhuruSasa85 What verses, where?
@martinishot
@martinishot 6 ай бұрын
They have lost in court a number of times attempting your argument.
@Rooktoven
@Rooktoven 3 ай бұрын
Except in most cases Jimmy Page added completely dominant melody lines that departed from the originals. At best any of these wronged artists could claim a third credit. In almost every situation the new songs/adaptations were improved .
@ShortFuseFighting
@ShortFuseFighting 3 ай бұрын
​@@Rooktoven yeah but its the main essence of a once in a lifetime riff/melody thats the hard part (not the variations you can do with it). take something like that "in the garden of eden" main riff...who COULDNT jam, improvise , write songs around and shred for hours over that beast of a central motif???
@nickdryad
@nickdryad 2 жыл бұрын
In 1976, when I was 14, Paul Hagan (in third form) used to get his older brother to transfer all his Led Zeppelin albums on to tape for me at one dollar a pop. I don’t feel so bad now.
@maurmi
@maurmi 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@zeusapollo8688
@zeusapollo8688 2 жыл бұрын
I got them all as copies on cassette as well
@toddlavigne6441
@toddlavigne6441 Жыл бұрын
You are allowed to make copies of anything. You just can't sell /gift them to anyone.
@todwest
@todwest Жыл бұрын
The sad thing is, no one would have thought any less of them if they had simply said, "This is our interpretation of the classic blues tune by X."
@cl8804
@cl8804 Жыл бұрын
there would have been more royalties to pay, though
@todwest
@todwest Жыл бұрын
@@cl8804 Indeed. Which makes it all that more disgusting.
@cl8804
@cl8804 Жыл бұрын
@@todwest you love it, you know you do
@todwest
@todwest Жыл бұрын
@@cl8804 I was never a Zeppelin fan. All my friends were. I was into Queen, Bowie, Steely Dan, Little Feat. Never disliked them, particularly, but they also weren't my thing.
@bobblaszczak7972
@bobblaszczak7972 Жыл бұрын
But they didn’t. That’s the issue. They claimed these as their own.
@jackdempsey9644
@jackdempsey9644 9 ай бұрын
I think Willie Dixon should definitely get some riding credit for a whole lotta love but not sole credit. The guitar riff is what makes that song.
@dondiubaldo1016
@dondiubaldo1016 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you have quotations around "Rip Off". In American roots music and even its ancestor, the fiddle music of England, Ireland, and Scotland, there is a long tradition of borrowing licks, lyrics etc and combining them in different ways to make it your own. It is not stealing, it's part of the blues tradition. If you were to try to credit those, who actually created it, you'd have to go so far back into history there would be no documentation.
@erics7992
@erics7992 Ай бұрын
Difference was back in the day nobody was making millions of dollars doing all of that 'borrowing'.
@moztheroz
@moztheroz 27 күн бұрын
​@erics7992 nobody was forced to buy it.
@Jpaintingdesigns
@Jpaintingdesigns 26 күн бұрын
Many of LZ songs are a synthesis of others' songs, played in their LZ style. I personally don't think they're always an improvement, but they're just done differently. Much of their success is owed to other artists.
@jonathanhathaway7796
@jonathanhathaway7796 21 күн бұрын
@@Jpaintingdesigns That is a huge overstatement. Much of their success was due to having an original sound with arrangements different from other groups (as Glyn Johns has said many times), putting on lengthy live shows that floored audiences everywhere, putting out great and varied albums (with a small number overall of "lifts") that sounded great on any turntable. I know a lot of people who heard that first album when it was released who say how different it was to everything else. Ozzy and loads of their contemporaries say it too.
@michaelegan6092
@michaelegan6092 2 жыл бұрын
You've educated, and disappointed me with that . Very well done. One band that didn't do this was Humble Pie with their Rocking the Fillmore live album( absolutely wonderful) where they put rock songs to their own music but everything was credited to the original composers. Decent people.
@stevenbatke4167
@stevenbatke4167 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for LZ’s new album “Settled Out of Court For An Undisclosed Amount”
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 2 жыл бұрын
Good one
@markuse3472
@markuse3472 2 жыл бұрын
The Beatles had a handful of songs they took without permission, too. The difference is... Of Zeppelin, Tom Petty, Cougar Mellencamp, The Beatles, others... Only Led Zeppelin gave us mountains from rocks, and diamonds from rocks. The others only made pieces if tiles from rocks.
@og-greenmachine8623
@og-greenmachine8623 2 жыл бұрын
Reason I hate British bands. Least OUR whiteboys make THIER OWN music🇺🇸
@aw2584
@aw2584 2 жыл бұрын
^yeah, just like elvis ey?
@Broccoli75
@Broccoli75 2 жыл бұрын
@@og-greenmachine8623 Hell yeah, rock and roll with cheeseburger
@JonniVanPlatoni
@JonniVanPlatoni 2 ай бұрын
David does not mention it here but the Lemon Song prominently contains the lyrics "Down on this Killing Floor" repeated three times in the song. It's in plain sight not just in other similarities.
@yesman2755
@yesman2755 21 күн бұрын
When we were originally into Zeppelin, we had no idea that they were nicking songs off blues and folk artists, it just never crossed our minds. We thought they were all original compositions. The Beatles copied stuff in the early days but at least they gave the writers their due credit.
@Haysie-ky6bp
@Haysie-ky6bp 2 жыл бұрын
Every Brit band from the 60s were in love with the blues. I'm grateful they were... unlikely the originals would have sold well. Nevertheless, credit where due. That goes for Clapton, The Who, Yardbirds, The Beatles, Stones, etc.
@dabbudholak
@dabbudholak 2 жыл бұрын
Every? Even Pink Floyd?
@Amandacana
@Amandacana 2 жыл бұрын
@@dabbudholak - in Syd Barrett times - yes
@bderrick4944
@bderrick4944 Жыл бұрын
@@Amandacana I disagree. Barrett’s Pink Floyd was very British-sounding. Whimsical psychedelic pop with folk undertones and the occasional guitar distortion. The most bluesy thing about them was their name.
@roadiethegamecat4124
@roadiethegamecat4124 Жыл бұрын
@@dabbudholak Named after blues musicians Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. So yeah. Plus Gilmours leads are all blues based pentatonic scales. Also many "blues" chord progressions in many of their songs.
@byrongammonbyrongammon9937
@byrongammonbyrongammon9937 Жыл бұрын
The originals would not have sold well because labels and distributors wouldn’t put marketing dollars behind Black artists. It was straight racism.
@spyderlogan4992
@spyderlogan4992 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Willie Dixon. He has an autobiography called "I Am The Blues", 1990. You want to know about the most prolific Chicago blues songwriter? This is the book that reveals his upbringing and life in Chicago and Chess Records. Highly Recommended.
@victorwilburn8588
@victorwilburn8588 2 жыл бұрын
Also has an album by that name, which was one of the first blues albums I ever bought, I think along with Robert Johnson's King of the Delta Blues Singers.
@rookmaster7502
@rookmaster7502 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best, most engaging autobiographies I ever read. Perhaps even the best. Dixon lived a very interesting life. I bought a copy shortly after its release. Yes, highly recommended!
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
Willie Dixon WAS Chess Records. He did everything, including songwriter, arranger, engineering, session musician, inventing "echo" with black stand pipe.
@thetruthisoutthere8598
@thetruthisoutthere8598 2 жыл бұрын
SRV did several Willie Dixon covers but also credited him too
@jetcat132
@jetcat132 Жыл бұрын
@@thetruthisoutthere8598 Yeah, because by that time, the world was infested with lawyers.
@steveturner3864
@steveturner3864 5 ай бұрын
I play the guitar. If I sat down and figured out a tune. The chances that someone has played that riff on another song are probably 100% that it’s been played several times on different songs for different bands.
@JMoruzzi
@JMoruzzi 6 ай бұрын
Another weird thing about Zeppelin's approach to credits is that on their first album Robert Plant received no writing credit at all! Not for Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, not for anything. I believe that has since changed. And ironically, in view of later issues, on that first album they did give sole credit to Willie Dixon on two songs.
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 5 ай бұрын
Ah so they didn't even credit their own songwriters... Zeppelin is a weird case.
@waytogo8014
@waytogo8014 3 ай бұрын
Apparently because of contract issues.
@neilomac
@neilomac 2 жыл бұрын
Point of order - the intro of 'Rock & Roll' starts on the 'and' of beat 3, rather than on beat 1 - doing that means you won't need to stick those bars of 3/4 and 5/8 in and it all lines up in 4/4.
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs 2 жыл бұрын
Bonzoleum
@nettles89
@nettles89 2 жыл бұрын
My life changed the day I realized this.
@TimothyLafreniere
@TimothyLafreniere 2 жыл бұрын
*drum nerd enters the chat and paradiddlediddles the keyboard*
@seldonsinq
@seldonsinq 2 жыл бұрын
@@nettles89 yes!! Used to drive me nuts as a guitar player - I never came in right because I thought it started on beat one.
@SteveEspinola
@SteveEspinola 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The notation of Keep a knockin is nuts too. And they are _not_ the same.
@johngore7744
@johngore7744 Жыл бұрын
The line ‘squeeze my lemon’ was from Robert Johnson ‘ Travelling riverside blues’ the rest was the Wolfs(Chester Burnets) Killing Floor.
@paddymeboy
@paddymeboy 4 ай бұрын
Yeah some - not all - of the lyrics came from those songs, but those guys in turn used loads of lyrics and riffs that were around in Blues culture. And the _music_ of Lemon Song is totally different from either of them. It's not really a rip-off to use a refrain, or generic blues lyrics. Zep's real crime was that they made a lot of money out of it, where the old blues men didn't. The only thing they ever did that really was a rip-off was Black Mountainside, which just slightly re-arranges Bert Jansch's Black Water Side.
@chriskroll4166
@chriskroll4166 4 ай бұрын
​@@paddymeboyand Bertie inch got the song from an old Celtic folk song so everybody rips off everyone. If you look at some of muddy Waters songs he put his own name on there but they are rip-offs of old blues songs by Robert Johnson and some 30s guys so they all f****** do it . Howlin Wolf said he wrote 44 blues and he's credited for it but the song goes back to tommy Johnson. Some of Willie Dixon songs that he says he wrote he borrowed verses from old classic blues songs from the 20s he just rearranged them so the white kids wouldn't know the difference. John Lee Hooker is credited to have written crawling King Snake but the song goes back to Tony Hollis . Ignorant white kids seem to think that led Zeppelin ripped all these songs off because they don't know about blues. And furthermore it's not led Zeppelin's job to find out the proper credits and give the royalty these people it's the lawyers of the record companies job to suss all that out . Not page . some of these old blues songs the statue of limitations ran out years ago and the original artist never got around to copywriting it properly so the song was up for grabs in the 60s to whoever wanted to slap their name on there and led Zeppelin's record company took full advantage of that with or without plant and page knowing . Everybody does it . Van Halen ripped off the beginning of jump from an old Slade song . Eddie ripped off the beginning of eruption from an old black Arkansas song note for note . Until he goes into all that fancy finger-tapping which he didn't invent either cuz that goes back to the 30s with Roy smack . But I like your comment because you're one of the few people who understands this . 😊
@Scottie-pg3yj
@Scottie-pg3yj 28 күн бұрын
Plant and Page testified that they thought the song was some "lost" blues song that was so old no one knew the origins. Willie Dixon replied by saying, "I wrote it five years ago."
@artlovedj
@artlovedj 18 күн бұрын
Zeppelin never denied their influences. 70's rock bands grew up on the blues. 50's and 60's blues artists didn't get notoriety until rock bands covered their music.
@CanalCryptobros
@CanalCryptobros 2 жыл бұрын
"You only get caught if you're successful" daaaaamn
@paulperkins1615
@paulperkins1615 2 жыл бұрын
That part actually makes sense. Getting permission to make and publish a modified version of a copyrighted song is typically somewhere between difficult and impossible, especially if you are not (yet) rich and famous.
@stoneagedjp
@stoneagedjp 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda shows what they thought of their prospects. Little did they know...
@JuanLopez-ef5pr
@JuanLopez-ef5pr 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulperkins1615 Something that happens constantly usually isn't difficult or impossible.
@notimetowaste1254
@notimetowaste1254 2 жыл бұрын
Oh please, man..... This crap started much earlier with Elvis Presley (whom I'm a huge fan of) and he too never gave the proper credit to the black blues men he was trying to "imitate"!
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulperkins1615 No it isn't. One doesn't need permission -- one only must give credit and pay the royalties.
@justinthyme3396
@justinthyme3396 2 жыл бұрын
Muddy Waters song, "the blues had a baby and they called it Rock n Roll "Muddy Waters was the greatest blues man ever ( just my opinion) and I also love Led Zep saw them play Perth early 70s. I'm 81 years young this year and still rocking mainly in my rocking chair. Love and peace from Australia 🎶🎵🎶🎵😜✌
@sweetlou2597
@sweetlou2597 3 ай бұрын
This is how I write my songs, take bits and pieces from somewhere else and make it my own.
@E-BikingAdventures
@E-BikingAdventures Жыл бұрын
Boogie with Stu. A Ritchie Valens song "Oh my Head". Writen by Ritchie Valens and Little Richard.
@Markthespark1970
@Markthespark1970 2 жыл бұрын
It goes to show how amazing black music is, not only for musical rhythm but classic songwriting talent, the most influential music in history. Love early blues from the south, this all comes from all the oppression and wrongdoing. Time we really wake up and start treating each other with respect and love.
@henrygriffen40
@henrygriffen40 2 жыл бұрын
Today's black music is so bad, that it's embarrassing to even talk about,rap sounds like music for 3 year olds
@fernandosilva6295
@fernandosilva6295 Жыл бұрын
Kinda sad to think how black musicians lived very hard lives but when the british musicians did it they were treated like gods. Led Zep's act and performances were amazing, but it is certainly bitter to think about them knowing they did not actknowledge their influences and quotings
@cl8804
@cl8804 Жыл бұрын
BLACK PEOPLES
@caramanico1
@caramanico1 2 жыл бұрын
All of this stuff was well documented relentlessly several decades ago. Amongst British groups at that time it was common and accepted practice to "rework" those songs without proper credit given to the original artists/writers. Of course that started to change as early as the mid-70's.
@jamesrudd8705
@jamesrudd8705 Жыл бұрын
Bullshit. No, it was never common. Staggeringly asinine comment.
@drivebye2709
@drivebye2709 Жыл бұрын
Yardbirds
@christopherroa9781
@christopherroa9781 Жыл бұрын
Total British move
@virginiaquiroga6631
@virginiaquiroga6631 Жыл бұрын
Stealing others music seems like it should be the record companies responsibility not so much the artist.
@louied2613
@louied2613 Жыл бұрын
Blues artist have taken others songs, and lines from songs and given themself songwriting credit for them since the start of the blues .
@downtowng2449
@downtowng2449 2 ай бұрын
Lots of Musician getting good exposure playing other peoples songs. But it's some huge big deal because Led Zeppelin was able to get a lot of people into their versions of these songs. Generations of dedicated listeners. Only sucks that couldn't do it like them complain.
@turnsufficient4971
@turnsufficient4971 Жыл бұрын
John Bonham admitted that he grabbed that Little Richard opening from his song.
@AprilJMoon
@AprilJMoon Жыл бұрын
Mick Jagger always mentioned listening to "black" gospel and blues music and stated multiple times that they were bringing their music to the forefront. The likes of Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson were more famous and respected in the UK than the states. Yeah Brit bands ripped them off, but helped them gain the recognition they deserved. Many toured the UK and were treated like the stars they were
@markfox3083
@markfox3083 Жыл бұрын
Distance often increases respect
@alicequayle4625
@alicequayle4625 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Stones paid royalties to the people they covered. They seem to always have given fair credit.
@ExileGilby64
@ExileGilby64 Жыл бұрын
Perfect example of cultural appreciation
@dwightlove3704
@dwightlove3704 Жыл бұрын
@@alicequayle4625 Good question
@michaelhemphill8575
@michaelhemphill8575 Жыл бұрын
This is not nothing new.this happened" oftentimes.. a common occurrence it wasn't just British Bands " that plagiarize them,""it in happened in America,,and the bands had no intention of paying royalties..
@LieLikesMusic
@LieLikesMusic 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder how critical they were of their "repurposing" and "inspirations". Still one of the best bands out there though. Great video btw. And thanks for the shoutout and great collab :)
@duvan-solis
@duvan-solis 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, you remember the dirt you did to The strokes? You really need to associate your sources and script better, like I hope you make better videos cause I think you are not giving a good reputation to this crossover.
@nedim_guitar
@nedim_guitar 2 жыл бұрын
What is so great about Zeppelin? Except that they were groundbreaking at the time.
@shannonpincombe8485
@shannonpincombe8485 2 жыл бұрын
It's strange how picky they get about people using their music for teaching proposes and block their vids. Well...since they borrowed tunes so many times. Plain stupid really.
@nedim_guitar
@nedim_guitar 2 жыл бұрын
@@shannonpincombe8485 Excellent point!
@Mark-cc5bv
@Mark-cc5bv 2 жыл бұрын
@@nedim_guitar you’re right, they’re very overrated
@theartcat1
@theartcat1 Жыл бұрын
"Amateurs barrow, professionals steal." Picasso. It's how art progresses.
@jamesbishop4635
@jamesbishop4635 7 ай бұрын
Correct! How many hundreds of bands have helped themselves to Zeppelin riffs. Countless
@paddymeboy
@paddymeboy 4 ай бұрын
Oh really? Who did Picasso steal his style from? I mean, everybody has influences, the difference is between the people who have their own way of putting it together into something new, and those who are just repeating the work of others. Zep are definitely in the first category.
@iamhereblossom1588
@iamhereblossom1588 4 ай бұрын
That statement is not meant to be justifying stealing, it’s meant to show the unfairness of the art world and how it’s driven by monetary gains.
@user-ty9ho4ct4k
@user-ty9ho4ct4k 4 ай бұрын
This statement has been made by many great artists but it has been clarified to mean that you use what someone else has made to make something better, or at least different. Not literally steal it. If you take it literally then I have some songs to sell you. I think my best song is called blowin in the wind.
@Owen_plays_music1049
@Owen_plays_music1049 9 ай бұрын
More songs ripped off by Led Zeppelin (PS: they are credited in most of the songs but still): You Shook Me (Jeff Beck) It's Nobody's Fault But Mine (Blind Willie Johnson) When The Levee Break (Memphis Minnie) Gallis Pole (Fred Gerlach/Taditionnal)
@Duck_Dodgers
@Duck_Dodgers 6 ай бұрын
Gallows pole is a rip off of a Irish folk song over 200rs old so get out of here
@tago69mago671
@tago69mago671 Ай бұрын
​@@Duck_DodgersLook at the original album labels. No credit given on any of these or the ones in the vid. They were credited on subsequent reissues after being sued! Riffs are always being copied but Zep take the absolute piss by ripping off the lyrics!
@maxmeyer5889
@maxmeyer5889 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that in the first two albums, they “stole” the majority of the songs that are called into question, because one all blues musicians already did this, they were a touring band who on the first album spent 9 hours in the studio to make something they can sell on their first tour, Robert plant didn’t really write any of his own lyrics until Thank you. After these first two albums there are still some of these thefts but nowhere near to scale. In hindsight, yes Led Zeppelin should have given credit to all the musicians they were inspired or ripped off, but as a musician myself, I can’t count how many times I wrote a song after hearing a riff by jimmy page or Keith Richards and it almost sounds the exact same. The difference is that these guys made these songs way better and nobody cared until they could get money from it. Think about all these musicians getting brought into a new era of music by bands like zeppelin.
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
"Led Zeppelin" is not a "new era". They are warmed-over "Yardbirds". And you never would have heard of them if "The Beatles" hadn't turned the flow of music from US to world, to UK to US and world.
@maxmeyer5889
@maxmeyer5889 2 жыл бұрын
@@jnagarya519 very true compared to the Beatles, Led Zeppelin can seem very one dimensional in some regards
@geraldobrien7323
@geraldobrien7323 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but taking elements from a song, as opposed to just doing a whole section of a song, melody and lyrics together, are two different things. The Beatles did the former. Led Zeppelin did the latter.
@sthubbins4038
@sthubbins4038 2 жыл бұрын
@@jnagarya519 I love both bands, but Zeppelin is more "fully-cooked" Yardbirds than "warmed-over". Plant alone is in a different league than Relf (RIP, and no shame in taking second place to Plant).
@nedim_guitar
@nedim_guitar 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but, see, that ripped off melodies and lyrics. I'm also a musician, and I get inspired by a LOT of music, but I never rip off a song. A moment in a song grabs me, and I instantly use that feeling to do something that's my own. It's like I have an idea where the song would go if I did it. It goes into a completely different direction, the chords and melodies are completely different, but the feeling I had hearing that one part remains. Led Zeppelin were blatant about their theft. It's not even inspiration, it's theft.
@luvsavengedsevenfold
@luvsavengedsevenfold 2 жыл бұрын
The Stairway to Heaven versus Taurus case is pretty much jaywalking compared to some of the other songs that Led Zeppelin ripped off. There is no doubt, though, that it was wrong for Led Zeppelin to not credit the artists whose songs they borrowed from.
@skye1868
@skye1868 Жыл бұрын
The problem though, is that they were more of an influence. Zeppelin have never denied that. It's hard to say they borrowed certain songs, when they completely rewrote them.
@chriskarley384
@chriskarley384 Жыл бұрын
@@skye1868 Exactly!! You never heard Albert King complaining about Stevie Ray's music!! He loved him and loved the fact HIS style of playing was appreciated and revered again!! I agree with Robert. If the songs collect and artists want compensation and credit, that's between them and management. Elvis Costello said "Everyone in the music industry are thieves and magpies. Influence is a congenial word for taking."
@brunobruno792
@brunobruno792 Жыл бұрын
I think Taurus and stairway , there is a kind of inspiration but it’s slightly different melody introduction
@lincolnanderson8130
@lincolnanderson8130 Жыл бұрын
@@brunobruno792 I think Jimmie Page just added an extra note or two to that arpeggio, and accented them, otherwise they sound very similar.
@richardprescott5939
@richardprescott5939 Жыл бұрын
The first 6 here look to be borrowed. The last two aren't at all. Not sure how a song that you can't stomach to listen to for 15 seconds was stolen to make the most iconic song they ever did and maybe of all time.
@kellyarnett4062
@kellyarnett4062 6 ай бұрын
Zeppelin took American Blue's. And sold our soul back to us.
@bradb5541
@bradb5541 9 ай бұрын
Thank God they had the balls to “rip off” these other artists. I can’t imagine a world without Zeppelin.
@corda93bg
@corda93bg 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I think of it, this reminds me a lot of the sampling process in hip hop. You take a piece to build a song upon it. The only issue in this case was the lack of acknowledgement.
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, no: there is also the issue of ROYALTIES -- MONEY.
@anthonybranchii263
@anthonybranchii263 2 жыл бұрын
artistically its different, a sample are often used in beats with original lyrics over top of it.
@queenhenry3314
@queenhenry3314 2 жыл бұрын
All music is built upon the music that came before it. There's a very finite combination or notes/chords... however the melody/rhythm is where orginaility comes into play.
@TheRyanDuffinProject
@TheRyanDuffinProject 2 жыл бұрын
@@queenhenry3314 the melody/rhythms which led zeppelin is also known to steal lol
@tomblumenfeld8903
@tomblumenfeld8903 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRyanDuffinProject Touche, Guevara. Definition of dry wit..
@Luka_r.
@Luka_r. 2 жыл бұрын
The thing about Led Zeppelin is that they really knew how to use influences to create something completely new and important for rock music, but often they used too much (like lyrics) of single songs without crediting the original writer.
@Lu-em5wx
@Lu-em5wx 2 жыл бұрын
Completely new huh? I have a feeling a lot of it wasn’t new.
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
It's in the electronic technology, not the "influences". They are warmed-over "Yardbirds".
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
@Stonlee Ames "Led Zeppelin" was warmed-over "Yardbirds". And the "Yardbirds didn't STEAL from those they claimed to "love".
@markuse3472
@markuse3472 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lu-em5wx The Beatles had a handful of songs they took without permission, too. The difference is... Of Zeppelin, Tom Petty, Cougar Mellencamp, The Beatles, others... Only Led Zeppelin gave us mountains from rocks, and diamonds from rocks. The others only made pieces if tiles from rocks.
@Lu-em5wx
@Lu-em5wx 2 жыл бұрын
@@markuse3472 sure they did
@seanhayes6097
@seanhayes6097 5 ай бұрын
The guy only gave 8 examples if you go through their back catalogue there's many more! Personally I thought 'Since I've been loving you' 1970, was the closest taken from Moby Grape - Never 1968 was one of the most blatant. Nearly word for word starting from 'Working 7 to 11 every night etc' same melody, phrasing, tempo
@robertabitbol6454
@robertabitbol6454 Жыл бұрын
There is the also other way around: X covers a known song but changes the music entirely and in the end, gives 100% of the credit to the original composers. I have two examples: Misty Blue by Engelbert Humperdinck and House of the rising sun by Tracy Chapman. Although the latter is a public domain song.
@Chelaxim
@Chelaxim 3 ай бұрын
Then you have Rihanna's SOS which samples the synth of Soft Cell's cover of Tainted Love, but the original writer of Tainted Love, Ed Cobb, gets the writing credit. Rihanna didn't sing any words from Tainted Love.
@robertabitbol6454
@robertabitbol6454 3 ай бұрын
@@Chelaxim You know why? It's because a song is ONE. You cannot take away the words and change them. But if you do so you have to give credit to the writer even though you don't sing one word of the writer's lyrics like in your example.
@deliusmyth5063
@deliusmyth5063 2 жыл бұрын
“As I chanced the air…” - beautiful lyric. “Version by Rick Beato to avoid copyright claim” - very meta.
@highclass3041
@highclass3041 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching Rick great musician and teacher
@arnesaknussemm2427
@arnesaknussemm2427 2 жыл бұрын
Taurus itself, could be said to be a lift from an earlier guitar piece by English folk guitarist Davy Graham.
@CiscoDuck
@CiscoDuck 2 жыл бұрын
That's quite correct and Graham did nothing original himself.
@grousgrek6560
@grousgrek6560 5 ай бұрын
Thank the lord they covered these songs most of the population would have never heard of them. Atlantic records and peter grant decided not to give credit and royalties. The recording equipment and musical talent is greatly elevated when Zeppelin did those songs. Those artists should get credit and royalties. Dude the drum intro on rock n roll is used a million times at different bpms in music. 😂
@DH-hq2gf
@DH-hq2gf Жыл бұрын
Both Jimmy Page and Robert Plant were always open about Zeppelin's delta blues core, and their open influences being old traditional blues songs, some by Willie Dixon, Howlin Wolf, etc. But also many of those songs were already influenced through oral blues and folk tradition by previous unknown or unpublished artists. And it was also the record companies and their business that handled the credits, mostly for transcribing and publishing sheet music, not really a bands'. And in the later instance, as you said, a similar beat, riff, or chord in music is not anywhere close to an actual "song."
@LukasBolini
@LukasBolini 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite Led song is also a cover: When The Levee Breaks, originally by Memphis Minnie. They later had to credit her
@relayer43
@relayer43 2 жыл бұрын
They credited her right from the get go.
@thorstenbachmann2165
@thorstenbachmann2165 2 жыл бұрын
They credited it already on the fourth album
@geraldobrien7323
@geraldobrien7323 2 жыл бұрын
Did she play with Count Basie? A long time ago I had one of his albums. I was listening to one of the songs on that record, sung by a female, and at one point it hit me, “holy shit, that’s ‘When the Levee Breaks’ “.
@Rich6Brew
@Rich6Brew 2 жыл бұрын
There's a credit to Memphis Minnie on my original pressing.
@mattjames5694
@mattjames5694 2 жыл бұрын
Memphis Minnie warned about the levee in 1929.
@davidmthorley
@davidmthorley 2 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing to me they were so blatant about it. I mean, they didn’t even bother changing the lyrics.
@henrygriffen40
@henrygriffen40 2 жыл бұрын
Why do u care?Led Zeppelin hasn't done anything in 40 years lol
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrygriffen40 I imagine people are still putting money in their pockets by buying their re-re-re-releases expecting something different.
@DefenestrateYourself
@DefenestrateYourself 2 жыл бұрын
Why so defensive, Henry? Facts over feelings, sweetie
@2bunphettered788
@2bunphettered788 4 ай бұрын
I agree, but then again, maybe they felt they could relate to the lyrics too.🙂
@cincymutt
@cincymutt Жыл бұрын
I think it's just too much that they had multiple songs that they took heavily (melody and/or lyrics) from while keeping the same song title and everything. The line between what can be used freely and what can't is kind of blurred at times, but they did seem to definitively cross it quite a bit.
@genngeorge9909
@genngeorge9909 2 ай бұрын
Next you should do a video titled "100,000 Blues Songs That Rip Off Other Blues Songs"
@jaschul
@jaschul 2 жыл бұрын
See also "In My Time of Dying" and "When the Levee Breaks." I love Led Zep LPs, I really do, but their failure to give credit where credit was obviously due makes me think less than highly of them as people. The Rolling Stones and Cream, to name two blues-rock acts, were meticulous about making sure their inspirations got due credit (and, hence, royalties).
@edwardcoit9748
@edwardcoit9748 2 жыл бұрын
In my time of dying is in the public domain and When the levee breaks gives credit to Memphis Minnie
@rudywilliams6538
@rudywilliams6538 2 жыл бұрын
the statutory rape also makes me think less of them
@jaschul
@jaschul 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardcoit9748 not originally
@edwardcoit9748
@edwardcoit9748 2 жыл бұрын
Jason Schulman I have an original copy of fourth album. So yes they did.
@killertomato3531
@killertomato3531 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaschul originally yes, after Led 2 there no “true” cover tracks that Zeppelin ripped off without giving credit
@stephendavis4103
@stephendavis4103 2 жыл бұрын
The line "squeeze my lemon til the juice runs done my leg, comes from Robert Johnson's "Traveling Riverside Blues".
@hanspeterraatz4928
@hanspeterraatz4928 7 ай бұрын
Without Led Zeppelin and Cream, these recordings would never have been recognized.
@johntuttle9544
@johntuttle9544 3 ай бұрын
I dunno about never as they are classics in their own right. However, I greatly prefer the LZ versions. :)
@danieleyre8913
@danieleyre8913 3 ай бұрын
And do you imagine that the originators were happy about that, while not being credited nor receiving any revenues?
@jegr3398
@jegr3398 6 күн бұрын
It's crazy the somebody can sue another artist for stealing a song that they stole first 😅
@Publicistvideos
@Publicistvideos 2 жыл бұрын
You know who else “borrowed” blues licks and lyrics? Every blues musician ever 😂
@chesneytube1
@chesneytube1 2 жыл бұрын
I know, non musicians think that you should just boot strap yourself and come up with everything from scratch, as if it’s not good for everyone to have a rich tradition to draw from. But you know what musicians that come up with everything them self sound like? Poor. All great bands did this, just with varying degrees of cunning. Bands like Radiohead we’re savvy enough to dig in obscure corners of electronica from where no one would notice or care.
@froosh9189
@froosh9189 2 жыл бұрын
So much this. What a pointless video.
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
BUT they usually credit the SOURCE.
@chriscreed6410
@chriscreed6410 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but they also credit and pay royalties... You tit. And they don't make an ENTIRE CAREER off other people's music. You clearly don't understand blues.
@jonetxaniz783
@jonetxaniz783 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriscreed6410 well you clearly don’t understand Led Zeppelin if you think their entire career is based off of other people’s music. Go listen to their originals, many of them better than every song that appears in this video… unless you count Stairway to Heaven as a plagiarized version (which it isn’t)
@warren52nz
@warren52nz 2 жыл бұрын
Even when they were going strong in the 60s I noticed that a lot of Zeppelin's songs involved a short, low note riff that repeated over and over. It made me think about how to write a hit song (which I never attempted anyway).
@EDOGG62
@EDOGG62 Жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Zeppelin fan, and I used to work at a music store with a guy who was a huge blues connoisseur and he basically started listing all the songs they KNOWINGLY stole. It was disappointing that they had to be forced to do the right thing for their supposed heroes. I lost a lot of respect for them after that.
@ProfDCoy
@ProfDCoy Жыл бұрын
Yeah, watching this video, I don't mind that they yoinked songs from other people. That's kind of how art works: it's hard to make a TRULY original work. What makes me lose respect for LZ Is that when they were rich and famous they STILL fought the artists who wanted some credit and compensation.
@xe71
@xe71 11 ай бұрын
@@ProfDCoyIt’s not that easy IMO. I don’t know the details, but I can imagine that some of these lawsuits have been diminishing Zeppelins contribution on the other hand. I mean, treating all these songs as just-covers is also totally missed as they gained a new soul thanks to LZ.
@jimfortner9585
@jimfortner9585 5 ай бұрын
@@xe71in many cases, made them listenable
@fabolousjada5070
@fabolousjada5070 2 ай бұрын
Just did today and im black
@rmcq1999
@rmcq1999 Ай бұрын
I never have. I've heard all the songs. They were worth one listen. Led Zeppelin's songs that were derived from other songs are timeless and I listen to them all over and over. They just took something raw and produced something great. No music comes out of a vacuum. Blues was all about playing other people's songs. The only reason why some songs in folk genres are public domain is because there wasn't a music publishing industry happening when those songs were floating around.
@mangot589
@mangot589 Жыл бұрын
I do think that “I should have quit you” and other common sayings shouldn’t be allowed to be sued over. But when the music over it it is just SO similar, 🤷‍♀️
@chadromanowski2408
@chadromanowski2408 Жыл бұрын
It's the blues. Almost every blues song arises from another.
@davidmason5755
@davidmason5755 2 жыл бұрын
Another song to mention. Blind Willie Johnson wrote and recorded "Nobody's Fault but Mine" in 1927. The old 1927 recording of guitar string bends and vocals sound very similar to the Zepplin version also written in the key of E.
@raulmccartney8795
@raulmccartney8795 Жыл бұрын
No, it doesn't sound similar at all, you fn lying hater.
@TheKitchenerLeslie
@TheKitchenerLeslie Жыл бұрын
I know I'd rather listen to the Led Zeppelin version. I also know that writer and copyrighter isn't the same thing.
@markbowen2333
@markbowen2333 Жыл бұрын
When the levee breaks..is another one. Memphis Minnie and her husband made the song shortly after the big (7 states) delta flood. Lz..added emotion, Great rendition..
@RonnieEverette
@RonnieEverette Ай бұрын
"Yeah i sampled your voice, you were using it wrong, you made it a hot line, i made it a hot song" -Jimmy Page
@littlebritain64
@littlebritain64 9 ай бұрын
If I was a rock music fan in 1968 and bought their first record for the beauty of the artwork, the talent of the musicians, the songs power and the great way they were recorded I could have been a great fan of them. But it is not fair to fans to pretend that those songs were created by their genius. At least put credits and say in interviews: "Ok, we liked these songs and decided to make our own versions". Would have been more honest.
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 5 ай бұрын
Yes. Many do covers and often the cover can be more successful or even better. But you don't bloody lie about who wrote it... people did covers all the time. Like Hendrix doing All along the Watchtower. Which I much prefer to the original. But of course Hendrix credited Dylan.
@joermnyc
@joermnyc 2 жыл бұрын
There’s even an old Italian composition on guitar that also uses a similar descending arpeggio line like Taurus and Stairway… but it’s centuries old, so that composer can’t sue anyone.
@mud2294
@mud2294 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the name? I'm interested in checking it out
@Pandamasque
@Pandamasque 2 жыл бұрын
check out "Everyone is WRONG about Stairway to Heaven" by Brian Krock
@neojack7011
@neojack7011 2 жыл бұрын
@@mud2294 kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4q2d6iNipx6h9U Starting around .34.
@livingtheapocalypse8248
@livingtheapocalypse8248 2 жыл бұрын
@@neojack7011 ha ha yes . . I wonder if L Z were aware of this when Taurus sued . . I'm sure the out of court settlement would have been very different or perhaps non existant . .
@frannyp46
@frannyp46 Жыл бұрын
Joe rm. They are called line cliches and are used a lot in music.
@conorlauren
@conorlauren 2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty funny. Willie Dixon never sued Small Faces, even though writing credit for You Need Love went to Steve Marriott and Ronnie Lane without Willie Dixon. “You only get caught if you’re successful.” Yep. That song proves it. Zeppelin got sued and Small Faces didn’t. Actually, I’m now imagining what Steve Marriott would have sung had he been Zeppelin’s vocalist as Page originally intended.
@PageMarker1
@PageMarker1 Жыл бұрын
Bert Jansch's song is hauntingly beautiful.
@SpeedFreak-LXIX
@SpeedFreak-LXIX 5 ай бұрын
When the Levee Breaks, Memphis Minnie. 1929 I believe. Written about the great flood of the Mississippi river in 1927. Then the opening drum beat by Zeppelin was sampled by the Beastie Boys on the song Rhymin & Stealin in 1986. With the guitar riff from Black Sabbath’s 1971 song Sweet Leaf backing the drums. I greatly enjoy many types of music. Nothing is original 😂. It’s not what you play, it’s how you play it. Please everyone. Keep in mind, there are truly only two types of music. Music that you like and music that you don’t. Your taste cannot define music as “good” or “bad”.
@jacknone1564
@jacknone1564 Жыл бұрын
Every musician in the history of the world was influenced by someone that came before them. There’s nothing wrong with emulating someone you look up to. Just give credit where credit is due.
@timothyjarvis4208
@timothyjarvis4208 Жыл бұрын
Did the band use blues staples,? Of course. But to what effect? To form a whole new genre that took the world by Strom. Led Zeppelin is the great foundation stone of heavy metal, that will never change
@robchit1
@robchit1 6 ай бұрын
I'm not going to sort through almost 5,000 comments to see if this has been mentioned (way to go by the way!). It was last week when I found "When the Levee Breaks" was released in 1929 by Kansas Joe McCoy
@abnernazarecandido8236
@abnernazarecandido8236 Жыл бұрын
Se faltaram os créditos, foi um erro. Mas, as versões feitas pelo LED são imortais.
@kansascityonline
@kansascityonline 2 жыл бұрын
Small Faces were an epic band!.. RIP Ronnie!!.. All the great rock legends point to Willie Dixon as an influence of their music..
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 2 жыл бұрын
Strange that Dixon never ever went after The Small Faces, even though they ripped him off far more blatantly. I guess Dixon didn't think there'd be any money in it, seeing as The Small Faces never made it big.
@relayer43
@relayer43 2 жыл бұрын
@Simon Archbold It's more interesting to me that the people who scorch Zep for it are noticeably quiet about Marriott/Lane crediting themselves for You Need Love. And what about Willie Dixon ripping off fellow blues artists because he knew more about publishing than they did? Of course the Zeppelin whining gets more clicks...
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 2 жыл бұрын
@Simon Archbold What I find ironic is that Zeppelin gave Dixon song writing credit for almost 1/4 of the first Zeppelin album (two whole songs). As far as I can find out he never acknowledged that or thanked them for it. Zeppelin could have, after all, chose to cover any one of numerous black blues artists but instead they covered not one but two of his songs on their debut album and thus he must have made some money off them right from 1969. I wonder if Zep were a bit bummed about that and thought "wow he didn't even give us grateful nod, ok we'll take the next one for free" haha. Who knows??
@spearfisherman308
@spearfisherman308 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyndoncmp5751 the riffs were zeps not willies the suit was over lyrics.
@walliegirl2
@walliegirl2 7 ай бұрын
You mix Willie Dixon, Robert Johnson, Hank Sr and Jimmy Rogers and you get Rock n Roll. Levon Helm spelled this out in the Last Waltz.
@aieahi1
@aieahi1 Жыл бұрын
When you get writing credit, you get royalties from every performance, album sale including that song, and all single sales. It’s why you’ll hear someone who helped with a song often mention that the band was kind enough gave them writing credit when it happens. Some bands give all members writing credit. Others only give writing credit based on contribution. A separate copyright does apply to the performance or recoding of the cover band - but the writers would still get a share of those royalties.
@ClockWerkOrange
@ClockWerkOrange 5 ай бұрын
I think of the older blues musicians that weren’t recorded that influenced or were, “ripped off,” by prominent blues musicians that had access to the technology of recording
@TheFolkandAcousticChannel
@TheFolkandAcousticChannel 5 ай бұрын
Knowing any of this doesn’t make me like them any the less. To be honest they just helped me to discover masses of other music I might never have found. That said some tunes were a bit close to the bone not to be credited and I know this caused resentment towards them from people I know they actually respected musically.
@jamesruch4355
@jamesruch4355 Жыл бұрын
The problem is a lot of those old blues songs were played by countless artists before they were ever recorded! Gallows Pole is a prime example of this. They covered lots of songs and put their stamp on it! That's their crime!
@Duck_Dodgers
@Duck_Dodgers 6 ай бұрын
Gallows pole goes back probably 200yrs many different versions
@paulfuller8985
@paulfuller8985 2 жыл бұрын
Zeppelin were notorious for ripping other songwriters off even back in the day .Cream always credited the original songwriters and Skip James' widow personaly thanked Jack Bruce for crediting I'm So Glad to Skip James that it gave him some money in his old age .
@francohuber1143
@francohuber1143 11 ай бұрын
The improvement in “Dazed and confused ” is MASSIVE
@JMoruzzi
@JMoruzzi 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's one of those cover versions that outdoes the original. Cover version, note.
@KC0462
@KC0462 3 ай бұрын
not the point
@wagstaff6135
@wagstaff6135 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen several videos about Led Zep's borrowings (ahem). This is the best of them. Kudos.
@bl4zinfl4me
@bl4zinfl4me 2 жыл бұрын
They were one of the first artists to get copyright claimed, before their times it was OK to just perform improved standarts
@AbbeyRoadkill1
@AbbeyRoadkill1 2 жыл бұрын
Not all were "standards," though. There's a few that were essentially contemporary songs (like the Jake Holmes tune.) But. in a way, I think Zeppelin made up for it with all the great original music they made on IV, Houses of the Holy, and Physical Graffiti.
@nostaticatall
@nostaticatall 2 жыл бұрын
The copyright claims on their songs are more legitimate (even obvious) than many of the successful claims these days.
@mintybadgerproductions
@mintybadgerproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, covers were very common, but usually they credited the songwriter.
@notimetowaste1254
@notimetowaste1254 2 жыл бұрын
Bullcrap! You ever heard of Can Heat? They were around the same time as Led Zeppelin and they also played songs from the Black Blues Men. But the only difference is that Can Heat always gave credit were credit was due! Unlike the thieving LED Zeppelin.....
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
As ignorant as most "Led Zeppelin" fans of music history. And as cavalier about stealing from others. That's why you have no friends: you can't be trusted.
@THEDUDE912
@THEDUDE912 Жыл бұрын
And Plant had the nerve to take issue with Greta Van Fleet who basically just copied their style but didn't actually blatantly rob people like Zep did.
@robertferguson533
@robertferguson533 Жыл бұрын
I’m here because I was just watching a blues concert from 1963 with various artists and some of it sounded just like Zeppelin
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always divided between tribute and influence and then using music nerd skills to lift slightly obscure music in a time when comparing songs was a lot more difficult.
@Frei_Raum
@Frei_Raum 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you always are reading all the names of your special patrons. Their names, like F. D. Hodor or Marc Ziegenhagen, together with one of your pieces of music have become an important part of your videos for me 🤗
@cadsticcadsticc1322
@cadsticcadsticc1322 Жыл бұрын
whole lotta love, got its hooks in me with that rift. the words could have been anything and it would still be my jam
@carlphil450
@carlphil450 Жыл бұрын
Every time we like a song at first listening, there’s usually an inspiration from an oldies
@robertfallows1054
@robertfallows1054 2 жыл бұрын
This must have taken a lot of research. Nice to see you give the sources like Howlin Wolf, Muddy Waters and Willie Dixon among others. I don’t think Zep really wanted to disregard their roots but you never know. Kind of ironic that now on KZbin Zep would demonetize your video if you played their songs a little too long. 😄
@AbbeyRoadkill1
@AbbeyRoadkill1 2 жыл бұрын
Zeppelin and their management are definitely the world's biggest hypocrites on that issue.
@nostaticatall
@nostaticatall 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 Without a doubt. Shameless.
@nettles89
@nettles89 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 The fastest way to turn a revolutionary into a conservative, is to let him win.
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 2 жыл бұрын
Never steal from a thief -- they get morally outraged at the wrong of it.
@chriscreed6410
@chriscreed6410 2 жыл бұрын
Best comment yet. Some of these idiots genuinely do not get it. In the days of sampling... no wonder. Nobody has original ideas anymore.
@gavinsheridan4680
@gavinsheridan4680 Жыл бұрын
When the Levee Breaks, Joe McCoy & Memphis Minnie.
@q4sbgf9kfgrd6
@q4sbgf9kfgrd6 Жыл бұрын
Regarding stairway, give me a break! They were on tour together, then a year later zeppelin records stairway with a “ similar chord progression “?! Taurus should be reimbursed millions!
@lapocasini1246
@lapocasini1246 Жыл бұрын
Well, it's only the first 4 chords out of a huge song and both artists got the progression from Davey Graham Cry Me a River. And the progression very well is older than that, possibly from a classical piece.
@vitro7970
@vitro7970 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to include “Boogie With Stu”! This song was a cover of Ritchie Valens “Ooh! My Head”
@MonsieurBooyah
@MonsieurBooyah 2 жыл бұрын
the only problem with that one is that they gave credit to valens's widow, rather than the record company
@mikj48
@mikj48 2 жыл бұрын
@@MonsieurBooyah Ritchie was never married died at 18
@mikj48
@mikj48 2 жыл бұрын
@@MonsieurBooyah maybe his mom
@mattrogers1946
@mattrogers1946 2 жыл бұрын
When LZ found out that Ritchie's mother got the short end of the stick from Bob Keane (who controlled the rights to Valens' music) they gave her a songwriting credit. Naturally, no good deed goes unpunished, the Valens estate ended up trying to sue the band.
@mattrogers1946
@mattrogers1946 2 жыл бұрын
@@MonsieurBooyah Valens' mother, Ritchie died at 17 and wasn't married....
@Ticonderous1
@Ticonderous1 Жыл бұрын
No one ever considered Zeppelin as Original .... Just Great !!!!!
@redzwestisbest
@redzwestisbest Жыл бұрын
I think is the correct comment. I think also the standards for music plagiarism have changed throughout the years as well. During that late 60s period everyone ease experimenting with each other. Plus, They still had about 2 dozen other songs that are not considered copies or borrowing even without these 8.
@mohammedjamil2277
@mohammedjamil2277 Жыл бұрын
@Group Break Checklists infact at least 85% is there own written material. It's a shame John Bonham died so young at his peak that figure would of been 95% original
@katarzynab946
@katarzynab946 Жыл бұрын
So why LZ fans think they have right to call GVF a rip off of this band lol
@damneh8688
@damneh8688 Жыл бұрын
Does not change the fact that they're thieves
@damneh8688
@damneh8688 Жыл бұрын
@@katarzynab946 Ikr, as gimmicky as GVF are, they're still more original than Led Zeppelin ever was.
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